Names are tricky. My GG's name was Anna Margaretha Heitkemper (& other spellings) in the US. When they cam e to Louisville, Kentucky they used their Plattdeutsch name. But in Heek/Ahle in Westfalen where they came from the Hochdeutsch name is used: Effkemann. If an Effkemann relative had not written to a relative here in the US 15 years ago I would never have found them. Who knew Heitkemper (Heidkamp, Keitkamper, Heitkaemper, etc.) equals Effkemann. Interesting! Check both Low and High Dutch names. ----- Original Message ----- From: <germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:35 PM Subject: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (juliasgenes) > 2. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Brigitte Jahnke) > 3. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Brigitte Jahnke) > 4. Re: Vintage Postcards (Michael Ewing) > 5. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Jeanne Freeman) > 6. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Brigitte Jahnke) > 7. question about Selisia (Judy Wiersema) > 8. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Jeanne Freeman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <506428.64396.qm@web110003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Greetings, Brigette ~ > > I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US > that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that > common. > > For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the > arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a > fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where > the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) > > (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married > sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family > that I know of so far.) > > Thank you! > > --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: > Klein is a very very very common name in Germany, the 15th frequent of > all the names in our country... > > Brigitte > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:28:18 +0200 > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D98D862.20700@brigittejahnke.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Julia, > > the most easiest: the name Evert comes from an old German given: Eberhard. > Short forms in Germany are: Evert, Everd, Everdt, Ewert, Ewerd, Ewerdt, > Eberd, Eberdt. > > It's always pronounced in the same was, although its written in a > different way. > > Most comon surnames are today: > > Evert: most people live in North-Eastern Germany, also in the Hannover > area, almost none in Southern Germany > Ewerd: all over Germany, very few in Bavaria, rather huge concentration > in Pommern and the eastern parts of Mecklenburg. > Ewert: comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area, most parts of Germany > few families of this name > Ebert: most frequent of these names, in all German areas, most in the > Rhein-Hessen, Franken, Hohenlohe, and Rhein-Neckar area. > > > As far as I know there is a big chance that your Ewert originate from > Mecklenburg or Pommern. In Germany it's a normal surname, nothing > exciting and nothing rare. > Even had a Ewert classmate at primary school, don't know where she is > today. > > There is also a request, unfortunately Terri didn't give her address: > > Terri schrieb am 29.04.2010: > > /Looking for Ewerts may have come from Karlsdorf. My Grandpa is Frank > born 22-3-1880. Came to South and North Dakota. Paper trail in USA is > non existent. Franks parents were Frank and Julianna (Mielke)Ewert. Also > went by Ebert and Evertt. Heard they were from a villiage near Frankfort > or Berlin. Can anyone help. / > > > Brigitte > > Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: >> Greetings, Brigette ~ >> >> I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US >> that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that >> common. >> >> For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the >> arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a >> fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where >> the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) >> >> (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married >> sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family >> that I know of so far.) >> >> Thank you! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:35:14 +0200 > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D98DA02.3060408@brigittejahnke.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sorry, > > of course Eberd, Eberst is not pronounced like Evert, Ewert, etc..... > > Brigitte > > Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: >> Greetings, Brigette ~ >> >> I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US >> that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that >> common. >> >> For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the >> arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a >> fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where >> the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) >> >> (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married >> sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family >> that I know of so far.) >> >> Thank you! >> >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Brigitte Jahnke<brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: >> Klein is a very very very common name in Germany, the 15th frequent of >> all the names in our country... >> >> Brigitte >> >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >> http://www.germanyroots.com >> >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:39:43 -0700 > From: Michael Ewing <mike.ewing@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Vintage Postcards > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <BANLkTinHi3YyOhKYM2cwNnjGsmcyOnhdaQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ursula, > > Why not just post the contents of this postcard on the > rootsweb/ancestry.comsurname page for Ramm if there is one? Someone > will come looking sooner or > later for this guy. > > Cheers, > Mike > > >> I found Mr. Charles Ramm and his wife Therese on the 1920 census in >> Davenport, Iowa. He said he immigrated in 1906. The postcard was mailed >> from >> Mittweida, Germany on 14 NOV 1906 and arrived in Davenport on 20 NOV >> 1906. >> His friend writes: "How are things going with you? Did you arrive OK? >> Were >> you not seasick?" >> >> Oh how I wish I could inform some descendant of Charles Ramm of this >> postcard! >> >> Ursula >> ____________________________________________________ >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:52:11 -0400 > From: Jeanne Freeman <jeafreeman@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CDC058236F3230-1CC4-14838@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Hello, > > I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. Perhaps > you could help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John (probably > Johann) Dauwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't seem that > common of a German name. Perhaps it was originally from The Netherlands? > I would love to know more about the name Dauwe. > > Jeanne in Phoenix > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 1:28 pm > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > > > Hello Julia, > the most easiest: the name Evert comes from an old German given: Eberhard. > hort forms in Germany are: Evert, Everd, Everdt, Ewert, Ewerd, Ewerdt, > berd, Eberdt. > It's always pronounced in the same was, although its written in a > ifferent way. > Most comon surnames are today: > Evert: most people live in North-Eastern Germany, also in the Hannover > rea, almost none in Southern Germany > werd: all over Germany, very few in Bavaria, rather huge concentration > n Pommern and the eastern parts of Mecklenburg. > wert: comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area, most parts of Germany > ew families of this name > bert: most frequent of these names, in all German areas, most in the > hein-Hessen, Franken, Hohenlohe, and Rhein-Neckar area. > > s far as I know there is a big chance that your Ewert originate from > ecklenburg or Pommern. In Germany it's a normal surname, nothing > xciting and nothing rare. > ven had a Ewert classmate at primary school, don't know where she is > today. > There is also a request, unfortunately Terri didn't give her address: > Terri schrieb am 29.04.2010: > /Looking for Ewerts may have come from Karlsdorf. My Grandpa is Frank > orn 22-3-1880. Came to South and North Dakota. Paper trail in USA is > on existent. Franks parents were Frank and Julianna (Mielke)Ewert. Also > ent by Ebert and Evertt. Heard they were from a villiage near Frankfort > r Berlin. Can anyone help. / > > rigitte > Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: > Greetings, Brigette ~ > > I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US > that > t's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that > common. > > For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the > arrival > f my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a fairly > common > ame, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where the name refers > to a > trong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) > > (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married > isters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family > that I > now of so far.) > > Thank you! > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > Please visit and participate in our new forum > ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:13:46 +0200 > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D98E30A.6040005@brigittejahnke.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Jeanne, > > rather easy to answer. > > There is a couple of Dauwe in the Bentheim and Osnabr?ck area. > But the origin of all Dauwe is a farm ab. 8 miles from my home in the > Tecklenburg, Westfalen area. > > Brigitte > > Am 03.04.2011 22:52, schrieb Jeanne Freeman: >> Hello, >> >> I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. >> Perhaps you could help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John >> (probably Johann) Dauwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't >> seem that common of a German name. Perhaps it was originally from The >> Netherlands? I would love to know more about the name Dauwe. >> >> Jeanne in Phoenix >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:17:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: Judy Wiersema <judybevans@att.net> > Subject: [G-P-L] question about Selisia > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <782714.56327.qm@web180610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Could anyone tell me about the country Selisia, I have been searching for > years > for my ggrands, and now I find out I have been researching in the wrong > place > and they probably came from Selisia, I was visiting the Allen County > Library and > a kind young man from Belgium who was sitting by me, informed me that I > was > looking in the wrong place, and to look at Silesia.? I have never heard of > Silesia.? Their surname I believe was spelled originally as Czechowicz, as > I > have seen other names like that, but not the spelling they used in > America.? In > Silesia there is a province named Katovicz, and Cossel, could they have > used > that for their names when they came here or how did it work on the > passenger > list. I just heard of the country lately.? Both ggrands said they came > from > Prussia, born in 1860. He I think from what family has said was Kolm, they > came > to America in 1887, her name was Amelia Kosel, or Kozal.? There is a town > in > Silesia of Cosel.? I just cant find them anywher.??He spelled their last > name > when they came to America as Karl Cekafetz, sounds like Chic a fetz.? Any > Any > Any help would be tremendously appreciated,? They lived in Taylorville, > and > Decatur IL?all of their lives.? My ggrandmother said she was sorry she > ever let > him over the border, so I think she was German and he was Polish?????? I > am at a > loss, but always depended on each other until they died, even tho married > to > someone else. > > Thank you for any help to guide me in the right direction.? I have?seen a > few > books but not events for during the years 1800 to 1900, it was all after > 1944 > they anyone mentions Silesia > > > ________________________________ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:35:32 -0400 > From: Jeanne Freeman <jeafreeman@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CDC05E31A07FF9-1490-A73E@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Hello Brigitte, > > Thank you so much for your quick response. That is a wonderful surprise. > I have no proof, but I have thought the Dauwe's may have come from > Osnabruck or a village named Lingerich. I'm so interested about the > origin of Dauwe farm. Is one still there? > > Jeanne > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 2:13 pm > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > > > Hello Jeanne, > rather easy to answer. > There is a couple of Dauwe in the Bentheim and Osnabr?ck area. > ut the origin of all Dauwe is a farm ab. 8 miles from my home in the > ecklenburg, Westfalen area. > Brigitte > Am 03.04.2011 22:52, schrieb Jeanne Freeman: > Hello, > > I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. Perhaps > you > ould help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John (probably Johann) > auwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't seem that common of > a > erman name. Perhaps it was originally from The Netherlands? I would love > to > now more about the name Dauwe. > > Jeanne in Phoenix > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > Please visit and participate in our new forum > ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS list administrator, send an email > to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS mailing list, send an > email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70 > ******************************************************