Interesting info about SC Palatines is that after the info below our ancestors got land in NC in 1762 and 1763 and later in sC in 1772 and 1774. See here, from the same book; Normal 0 MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) } /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} It is not known when the Germans first came to South Carolina, but it is known that in 1734 a number of emigrants from Salzburg arrived at Charleston and settled in the province, and about the same time 170 Swiss emigrants also arrived at Charleston under the lead of Johann Peter Purry, and founded Purrysburg on the Savannah river; the following year 200 additional Swiss arrived, and later a colony of Swiss and Palatines made settlement in the neighborhood of Orangeburg, which was founded about the same time. Their settlement was on the Edisto river, and the whole region on both sides of the stream in that neighborhood was originally settled by Germans, chiefly from the Palatinate, and Switzerland. Other Germans from parts in Germany further north settled in South Carolina. They founded a colony further inland from Orangeburg, and called it Saxe-Gotha. This became an important central point, from which the German settlement spread, which continued to gain large accessions until the Revolution. In 1763 there came two ship loads of German emigrants from London to Charleston. They were poor, and the Colonial Legislature voted them 500 pounds, 200 muskets and ammunition, and settled them in the Saxe-Gotha district. The Germans monopolized this district, and continued to speak the German language long after it had ceased to be spoken elsewhere in South Carolina. A traveller who visited this district as late as 1850 wrote, that German was no longer spoken by the descendants of the early German settlers, but that the people retained their German Bibles, hymn-books, and observed many of the customs, festivals and holidays of their German ancestors. ------- Original Message ------- >From : Ursula[mailto:ubatrans@comcast.net] Sent : 3/28/2011 6:18:32 PM To : germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] Surname's Holsomback, Holsonback, Holsonbake. Hello Conrad, yes, I have the book you have shown the link to and I have read it cover to cover in the hope of finding any reference to a ship or passenger names but to no avail. Of course there is such a wide range of immigration years from 1702 to 1776 and beyound, then the years of the immigrants having spent in England and Ireland. Even if you knew the exact year of immigration, there are no ship records of those who immigrated to the Carolinas. I remember seeing ship names and passenger names in the records kept by Strassburger on immigrants to Pennsylvania, however, without any ages given in these early lists, it's difficult to prove any relationship to later generations. Even if you knew how, when and from where your ancestors began their voyage, you would still need to know the exact name of the town from which they came in Germany or Switzerland as church records are kept at the local level. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- Thank you Ursula for your response. I have personal knowledge that my Holson(m)back family is German. I have all of the available information on our family here in America, well almost all. I have the benefit of having more than 200 researchers of our surname over the last 11 years. We do have a research site at MyFamily.com. We have many documents that tell us that our family has been in America since 1763 in NC along with many other documents of our families service to the United States before and after the American Revolution. Our Holsombacks, at last count 90 variations of the spelling of the surname, have fought in every war our country has ever had, as well as service to King Charles of England in the Indian wars. Yes our family did, sadly, have slaves and had large holdings of land in NC and SC, many acres given to them by the royalty owners of land in the Carolina Colony (later divided into NC and SC). Our family ancestors were given land by the King of England and by the governors of NC and SC. So now to our problem, we are almost 99 percent sure that our Holsomback's were German Palatines, see here: http://books.google.com/books?id=onU4AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA58&lpg=PA59&ots=nQ96WFnzBp&dq=palatines+to+carolina+colony&output=text but we have not been able to find which ship they came in on or if they left from London of other ports of embarkation. Then we can find out where they came from in Europe. They may have been Swiss Germans but almost surely Germans. Thanks for your help. Conrad Holsomback triconholsomback@greenwood.net Normal 0 For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message