John Euchner - Born 1838, January 6 in Grafenberg NT., RT., Germany. I have his family tree from Germany (1638 - 1854) researching now US 1854 - 1869 What I have and believe follows and further thoughts appreciated. Church books state registered to Emigrate in 1854 at age 16 - no records of when left or landing Angel's information states Married and first two children born in Tazewell County, Illinois prior to 1867. Only proof papers after Church records is Land Purchase in 1869 Iroquois County, Illinois. Wife Mary (Stofer - 1860) Stauffer and sister Emma located in 1860 Censes Kalamazoo Michigan. There were seven additional children and parents buried in Martinton Iroquois Illinois. I have a note that John had a sister Mary (Born Anna Maria 1846) dies USA that matches a Mary wife of Justus Faupel married in Tazewell County, Illinois and buried in Martinton. Sister Emma is with the family in Martinton censes. How/where did he meet Mary = Kalamazoo or Tazewell - Travel through Mi. on way to Illinois. Why Tazewell then to Iroquois Illinois. Great uncle born 1802 and son born 1840 and wife and daughter born 1842 in Kings NY with emigration of 1856. Euchner - Stauffer - Faupel - Treischel - Bunker - Savoie - Schroeder - Pilotte Starr Kat - GGGG grandaughter

>From what I can see, these Germans stayed in touch with each other, writing from the states back to Germany, encouraging each other to come over.  They knew about good places to go to get land and be a success, and let each other know about them.  Many times, there were enclaves of Germans, not always from the same areas in Germany, but all speaking German and going to the same churches, in the states.  I remember when I was young, in Alpena, MI, hearing grandmother still speaking with thick German accents to us children, and in German to each other.  My forays into the 'dime stores' were always wonderful, just in listening to the varieties of languages spoken there.  I heard mostly French, Polish and German in Alpena.  And believe me, there WAS a French Catholic Church, a Polish Catholic Church and a German Lutheran Church, all in the same town.    Most likely, the Euchners who moved to the US had made contacts with others who were already here, and knew exactly where they were going to go.  John Euchner probably knew what his travels would be like, and in the stops across the states, met and liked his future wife.  Many times, they would ask for a hand in marriage, and if the couple liked each other, they married.  Not like now, where we have to be 'in love' or something like that.  They knew that their lives depended on a good man to earn money to live on, a wife who could have babies and keep house and pitch in on a farm, etc., and good fortune as well.  But they tended to stick together.    One of my ancestors asked one of my other ancestors for her hand in marriage.  She turned him down, having her eye on another gentleman farmer in the neighborhood.  She married the other guy and had a good life.  So, he, not giving up, asked her younger sister for her hand, and after her mother's prodding, she accepted.  They also had a good life after that.  Not much courting, just look, ask and see what comes around.  They didn't have a lot of money, and worked very hard all their lives, and were happy all that time.  And that man was the start of our Scottish heritage!    You're lucky to know as much as you do about your guy.  I'm still trying to find the family of my great grandfather in New York, and so far, have only one family that sort of fits his description.  Not exactly, so I'm not satisfied they are the right ones.  And they only were found in ONE census, and are all lost after that.    MYRA HERRON Honk if you love Jesus. Text while driving if you want to meet him. --- On Mon, 3/21/11, Chas7116@aol.com <Chas7116@aol.com> wrote: From: Chas7116@aol.com <Chas7116@aol.com> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Euchner To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 1:05 AM John Euchner - Born 1838, January 6 in Grafenberg NT., RT., Germany. I have his family tree from Germany (1638 - 1854) researching now US  1854 - 1869 What I have and believe follows and further thoughts appreciated. Church books state registered to Emigrate in 1854 at age 16 - no  records of when left or landing Angel's information states Married and first two children born in  Tazewell County, Illinois prior to 1867. Only proof papers after Church records is Land Purchase in 1869  Iroquois County, Illinois. Wife Mary (Stofer - 1860) Stauffer and sister Emma located in  1860 Censes Kalamazoo Michigan.         There were seven  additional children and parents buried in Martinton Iroquois  Illinois. I have a note that John had a sister Mary (Born Anna Maria 1846)  dies USA that matches a Mary wife of Justus Faupel married in Tazewell County,  Illinois and buried in Martinton.  Sister Emma is with the family in Martinton  censes. How/where did he meet Mary = Kalamazoo or Tazewell - Travel through  Mi. on way to Illinois. Why Tazewell then to Iroquois Illinois. Great uncle born 1802 and son born 1840 and wife and daughter born  1842 in Kings NY with emigration of 1856. Euchner - Stauffer - Faupel - Treischel - Bunker - Savoie - Schroeder  - Pilotte Starr Kat - GGGG grandaughter For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message