Hello John, The Edwardsville Intelligencer is online and offers hours of reading pleasure. Here is the link: http://edwardsville.newspaperarchive.com/ I remember our Bollmann research from years gone by, in fact I still have some of our correspondence on one of my old PCs. Every time I come across the name BOLLMANN I think of you. On the 1900 census, Christian stated that he came in 1853! The 1857 reference on the naturalization application may have been the date when he first filed the Declaration of Intent. I also noticed a different Birth Year in the obit compared to what he stated on the 1900 census. With this many variables it is difficult to pin down the actual date of immigration, although there are not that many Christians/Christ./Christopher Bollmann/Ballmann/Bellmann with one 'n' or two that come even close to an immigration date prior to 1860. Nonetheless, I'll keep looking. Best wishes, Ursula. -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Galle, John L (AMSEC) Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:55 AM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] EXT :Re: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 28 Sandie: Thank you for the reply! I always find it interesting that one note sparks a flurry of activity and then quiet again for a time. I would definitely be interested in the PDF versions of the Edwardsville OBITs and will contact you on your other email below. When I visited Highland/Edwardsville about 5 years ago to do some research, I ran across three BOLLMANN families in the Edwardsville area in late 1800s, but had only 2 days on site. I think they are likely related, but could never make a link with the limited data I got. What is your source for the OBITs? I am looking for the OBIT of a second wife Maria (HERMANN) BOLLMANN who married my Christian ~1895 and had a daughter Freida who married a LEU. Maria is found in the Census living on her own with a daughter and her other son in 1910, and living with the LEU family in Highland as mother-in-law in 1920/30 Census over 70/80 years old, so likely passed away in 1930s or early 40s. Do not know where she is buried either...rumor is with the LEU family.
Ursula: Thanks again for your help in the past! I will check out this link for Edwardsville newspapers. This figure Christian BOLLMANN has been a series of irregularities in dates and dead ends throughout my research. I also noticed some irregularity in dates in the Census reports, but I think the most accurate is probably his Request for Citizenship in 1861 (and recorded by the clerk of court in 1866 see transcript) as it discusses his immigration only 5 years removed from the arrival date he states and his immigration age matches the headstone birth date. -------- Transcript of Christian BOLLMANN's Request for Citizenship below: I Wm T? Brown clerk of the circuit court within and for the county and state aforesaid, certify that on the 13th day of February A.D. 1861, - Christian Bollmann a native of Prussia and then of the age of twenty two years - declared under oath before the clerk of said court that he emigrated to the United States in the year A.D. 1856, and landed at the City of Baltimore in the state of Maryland - in the month of July in said year 1856, and that at the time of his said declaration he had been a resident of the County of Madison aforesaid for four years, and he further declares it was bona-fide his intention to become a citizen of the United States. In witness where of I have hereunto signed my name and affixed the seal of said court at Edwardville this 1st day of October A.D. 1866. /s/ Wm T? Brown Clerk. --------- But there are still questions in that the declaration can be read several ways...all giving different dates... 1. 1856-22=1834 for birth date, confirms birth year...however...is he 22 in 1861 or 1856?? I think 1856, since headstone says birth March 20, 1834. 2. There is an issue regarding Christian BOLLMANN's age. This document has a problem in that it is dated 1866, but discusses a declaration from 1861. This document could be read to show that he emigrated at age 22 not 12 as family lore states. I have found this further corroborated in census records where his age = 1834 birth. If however, he was 22 in 1866, then he would be 12 in 1856 but his birth year would have to be 1844 not 1834 as stated on the burial stone and other records. I suspect he was 22 when he arrived in Baltimore, 1856. 3. Unfortunately the location of where he is from is "Prussia" a large area, including Thuringen...but also lots of other places. There are lots of BOLLMANNs from Mecklinburg (also Prussia). I was hoping it would better say where in Germany he was from so I could make the leap across the ocean on the Bollmann line...guess not... 4. If arriving Baltimore MD in July 1856 and being in Madison County 4 years as of Feb 1861, he arrived in Madison County ~ 13 Feb 1857 or ~ 6 months after arrival. (have 1860 marriage certificate to Johanna) This gives me a firm date of residence. So far, I have not been able to find him on any manifest for any ship arrival in Baltimore in the Jul 1856 timeframe. Family lore (which has had some inaccuracies) is that he stowed away in the coal bin...with the help of some unknown friends who were traveling to USA at the time. Even if a stow-away, I suspect he would show up on manifest as addition for customs. 5. Still no reason why he would have been missed by the 1860 federal census (you found him in 1870 Census under a different name) and the 1875 Illinois census...and then finally appearing in 1880/1900 federal census with full family in Highland, Illinois. Suspect he was resident in Highland the whole time...Still have not found him in a Baltimore passenger list. The mystery continues... :-) John Galle -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ursula B Adamson Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:20 AM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] EXT :Re: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 28 Hello John, The Edwardsville Intelligencer is online and offers hours of reading pleasure. Here is the link: http://edwardsville.newspaperarchive.com/ I remember our Bollmann research from years gone by, in fact I still have some of our correspondence on one of my old PCs. Every time I come across the name BOLLMANN I think of you. On the 1900 census, Christian stated that he came in 1853! The 1857 reference on the naturalization application may have been the date when he first filed the Declaration of Intent. I also noticed a different Birth Year in the obit compared to what he stated on the 1900 census. With this many variables it is difficult to pin down the actual date of immigration, although there are not that many Christians/Christ./Christopher Bollmann/Ballmann/Bellmann with one 'n' or two that come even close to an immigration date prior to 1860. Nonetheless, I'll keep looking. Best wishes, Ursula. -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Galle, John L (AMSEC) Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 9:55 AM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] EXT :Re: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 28 Sandie: Thank you for the reply! I always find it interesting that one note sparks a flurry of activity and then quiet again for a time. I would definitely be interested in the PDF versions of the Edwardsville OBITs and will contact you on your other email below. When I visited Highland/Edwardsville about 5 years ago to do some research, I ran across three BOLLMANN families in the Edwardsville area in late 1800s, but had only 2 days on site. I think they are likely related, but could never make a link with the limited data I got. What is your source for the OBITs? I am looking for the OBIT of a second wife Maria (HERMANN) BOLLMANN who married my Christian ~1895 and had a daughter Freida who married a LEU. Maria is found in the Census living on her own with a daughter and her other son in 1910, and living with the LEU family in Highland as mother-in-law in 1920/30 Census over 70/80 years old, so likely passed away in 1930s or early 40s. Do not know where she is buried either...rumor is with the LEU family. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message