Thank you Ursula for your response. I have personal knowledge that my Holson(m)back family is German. I have all of the available information on our family here in America, well almost all. I have the benefit of having more than 200 researchers of our surname over the last 11 years. We do have a research site at MyFamily.com. We have many documents that tell us that our family has been in America since 1763 in NC along with many other documents of our families service to the United States before and after the American Revolution. Our Holsombacks, at last count 90 variations of the spelling of the surname, have fought in every war our country has ever had, as well as service to King Charles of England in the Indian wars. Yes our family did, sadly, have slaves and had large holdings of land in NC and SC, many acres given to them by the royalty owners of land in the Carolina Colony (later divided into NC and SC). Our family ancestors were given land by the King of England and by the governors of NC and SC. So now to our problem, we are almost 99 percent sure that our Holsomback's were German Palatines, see here: http://books.google.com/books?id=onU4AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA58&lpg=PA59&ots=nQ96WFnzBp&dq=palatines+to+carolina+colony&output=text but we have not been able to find which ship they came in on or if they left from London of other ports of embarkation. Then we can find out where they came from in Europe. They may have been Swiss Germans but almost surely Germans. Thanks for your help. Conrad Holsomback triconholsomback@greenwood.net Normal 0 MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0in; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} ------- Original Message ------- >From : Ursula[mailto:ubatrans@comcast.net] Sent : 3/28/2011 8:49:04 AM To : germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] Surname's Holsomback, Holsonback, Holsonbake. Hello Conrad, Welcome to the GPL! You wrote that you have traced your ancestors to 1763 and 1772 in the Carolinas. What kind of records did you find that would indicate that they came from Germany? As you know already, the name has undergone so many changes that it is difficult to say, 200+ years later, how it was spelled originally. I found John HOLSONBACK on the 1790 census; I found him being married under the same name to an English woman in 1798. On the 1800 census we have what appears to be several related persons residing in Edgefield, S.C. but with different spelling of the surname: HOLSAMBECK, Abraham HOLSAMBECK, Daniel HOLSENBACK, Derrick HOLSOMBACK, Matthew On the 1810 census: HOLESOMBACK, Derrick, Jacob, John, John HOLSENBACK, Abraham Unfortunately, not until the 1850 census do we find out the country of origin, but by then the old-time immigrants have passed away and the new generation was born in the US. Hence the question about the 1763 and 1772 documentation. I do question one thing, with the Carolina immigrants, led by Joshua KOCHERTHAL, being very religious, would these settlers have engaged in slavery? I say this because I noticed on the 1800 census that some of the HOLSAMBACKs were slave holders. Perhaps you know more about that from your research. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- I am new to the list and I have traced my Holsomback ancestors to North Carolina in 1763 an in South Carolina in 1772. Actually I think they arrived with the Palatine Germans in Carolina Colony in the about 1760 but I have no idea where in Germany they came from or what ships their ports of arrival or the ships they arrived in. Any and all help would be fantastic. I have spent 10 years researching my family along with over 200 researchers of our surname, we have a site on MyFamily where we share information, but alas we have not found where our family entered the country. Conrad Holsomback triconholsomback@greenwood.net For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message