REPLY: Thanks for the quick response. I'm sharing your posts with my Brox relatives and friends over in Canada. Thanks to Elizabeth and Ursula, we're getting close. >From my copy of the BROX family records: Johann Jakob Brox was born May 18, 1826/27 in Dilsberg, Germany (Bavaria). Katherina Ziegler was born June 10, 1826 (birthplace unknown). My records say they married September 19, 1849 in Buffalo, NY. This couple settled in Elmira, Ontario (near Kitchener). They were Mennonites. Katherina Ziegler died January 13, 1897 in Elmira. Johann Jakob died May 16, 1900 in Elmira. I have two vintage photos of them. Both are labeled "Johann Jakob and Katharina (Ziegler) Brox." I appreciate all you can do to add to this. Robert Brenner (raised on Trumble Road, Columbus Twp, St. Clair, Michigan) ------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:01 AM Today's Topics: 1. Seeking info on BROX and ZIEGLER (Robert Brenner) 2. Re: Seeking info on BROX and ZIEGLER (Elizabeth Sarniguet) 3. Re: Seeking info on BROX and ZIEGLER (Ursula) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 05:00:32 -0800 From: "Robert Brenner" <brenner@brennerbooks.com> Subject: [G-P-L] Seeking info on BROX and ZIEGLER To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Greetings list friends, Do any of you have passenger records for ships arriving in Baltimore before September 1849. My ancestors Jakob BROX, his brother Philip BROX and Jakob?s fianc? Katharina ZIEGLER sailed from Germany to America in 1849. Jakob and Katharina were married in Buffalo, New York in September 1849. Then they migrated north into Canada and settled in just north of Berlin, Ontario (later called Kitchener). A relative checked with the LDS Church in Kitchener, Ontario but could not find any information on their immigration to the U.S. and then Canada. Can you help? Robert Brenner ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:40:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Elizabeth Sarniguet <elizabethsarniguet@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Seeking info on BROX and ZIEGLER To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com My great aunt was married to Mathias Ziegler.? Birth place Alsace Loraine, France/ Germany.? They lived in Dayton, Ohio.? His father was Ferdinand Ziegler and mother was Marian Meier.?? My Aunt maiden name was Anna Maria Probst.? He died September 13, 1883.?? They had one child Winnie.??She never married.? Passenger information I have has?him arriving November 22, 1866.? There are many other Zieglers who lived in Dayton, Ohio. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 19:53:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Ursula <ubatrans@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Seeking info on BROX and ZIEGLER To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Hello Robert, Do you have any birth dates for the immigrants? Also, do you know from what German state they came? While I find several references of Jacob Brox in Berlin/Kitchener, I have not found him or his brother Philip on any passenger list. I found the passenger list of a Johan [25], Margaret [23], and Phillip [72], who immigrated in 1857! I have found the passenger list for a Catherina ZIEGLER, 19, who immigrated on the ship BALTIMORE arriving in New York on 21 September 1849. Will send you the image of the passenger list if you believe it's her. She came with another person named Ziegler, possibly a sister or cousin. So if, as you said, they were married in Buffalo sometime after the 21st of September 1849, this would tell me that they knew one another before they immigrated, thus, they were probably from the same place / town in Germany. BTW I live in Columbus Twp, St Clair. Ursula Adamson Researcher Richmond Area Historical Society _________________________________________________________________ Memories are like threads of gold, they never tarnish or grow old *******************************************************