Try a right click, then click on open. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Wilde" To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: 16 March, 2011 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany >I clicked on Deutschland and it wouldn't quit opening up new tabs! What did >I do > wrong that Sharon didn't do so she saw it? > > Sue >
I clicked on Deutschland and it wouldn't quit opening up new tabs! What did I do wrong that Sharon didn't do so she saw it? Sue ________________________________ From: Peter917 <peter917@aol.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 9:04:37 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany -----Original Message----- From: Ursula <ubatrans@comcast.net> To: germany-passenger-lists <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 8:40 pm Subject: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany Listers, just in case you missed Wolf's comment on another video of modern day Germany, here is the URL http://www.germanyroots.com/start.php?lan=en&theme=7 and click on "Deutschland".. Ursula For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Wow Wolf, what a great presentation and the music was great too. Really makes me want to go back to Germany! Beautiful pictures! Thanks. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter917" <peter917@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ursula <ubatrans@comcast.net> > To: germany-passenger-lists <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 8:40 pm > Subject: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany > > > > Listers, > just in case you missed Wolf's comment on another video of modern day > Germany, > here is the URL > > http://www.germanyroots.com/start.php?lan=en&theme=7 and click on > "Deutschland".. > > Ursula > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Rose, Thanks for the suggestion, but I looked at every page of the manifest itself. I wonder if some of the pages of the manifest got lost before being digitalized? Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: 13 March, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Subject: Re: Has this happened to anyone? > Hi Bobbi, > > When searching for my ggrandfather with someone who was doing me a great > favor and is very experienced in searching we found that my ggrandfather > was > detained and we could not find him. > > When I arrived home that evening, I couldn't understand why we couldn't > find him when his name was on the ship's list index. I decided to > transpose > his name - I entered his last name as his first name and his first name > as > his last. Bingo - found him. Sometimes you have to think out of the box > because of the mistakes that were made. > > I hope this helps! > > Rose > **************************************************************************** > ****** > > Okay, here it is. > > Port of entry: New York, N.Y. > Name: Giuiseppe Incardona > Date: Dec. 6, 1911 > Manner of Arrival: SS Cincinnati > > Bobbi
-----Original Message----- From: Ursula <ubatrans@comcast.net> To: germany-passenger-lists <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 30, 2009 8:40 pm Subject: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany Listers, just in case you missed Wolf's comment on another video of modern day Germany, here is the URL http://www.germanyroots.com/start.php?lan=en&theme=7 and click on "Deutschland".. Ursula For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you re. the infor. on the Dinkle Bakery in Chicago with the family website. Lillian Gibson
This query is probably beyond the members' expertise, but you never know. The only thing I can think of is to have it appraised by someone who deals in antique German books and/or see if there are similar ones being sold on eBay. There are a lot of things that go into an appraisal besides condition. --- On Tue, 3/15/11, claycleo <claycleo@juno.com> wrote: ...I have an old German Bible...
Good morning. Maybe someone on the list can tell me, I have an old German Bible, very good shape, small, about a 5x7 size. Printed in 1921, a nice cover with a small cross on the front. does anyone have a $ value on this Bible? Thank you. ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d7f7ae0487441591c4st03vuc
If you mean help dating a photo in general, there are quite a few websites that do just that. Just search and read. If you mean help dating a photo from Germany, then that's probably too specialized for most of the sites I've seen. You'd then need to ask people with knowledge of German history, which is why I presume you came here. Did you know that you can upload images at the forum at the homepage? Then members can examine the photo and offer tips. Get there through the links at the bottom of this message... --- On Mon, 3/14/11, rwe <rwe38133@yahoo.com> wrote: ...an old family pic
Does anyone whose ancestors came from LaSalle Co. IL have information about a butcher shop owned by William Carl Nusbaum? Ilse ________________________________ From: rwe <rwe38133@yahoo.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 5:46:11 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS old photo No, most likely I would say it is probably from LaSalle Co., IL.Someone suggested posting it to Ancestorville on FaceBook, which I just posted there. Thanks for attempting to assist. I really appreciate it. --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Vera Nagel <vpanews@t-online.de> wrote: From: Vera Nagel <vpanews@t-online.de> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS old photo To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:56 AM Hi Rick, so this photo was most likely taken in Germany, right? If so, please provide it to my email address (as to be found within the header of this post) and I'll have a look to give it a try. Best, Vera Nagel (Germany) -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rwe Sent: Montag, 14. März 2011 04:21 To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS old photo Is there anyone on the group who is pretty good at judging an old pic by the clothes worn and detecting age ranges? I have an old family pic we are not certain who is in the picture. It is a studio pic of only 2 women. Both are wearing a lace like top and the one is wearing a very large hat with a lot of ruffels and lace looking material. Both women have their hair pinned up.I am thinking one may be my 2nd great grandmother. Thanks, Rick rwe38133@yahoo.com For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Rick, so this photo was most likely taken in Germany, right? If so, please provide it to my email address (as to be found within the header of this post) and I'll have a look to give it a try. Best, Vera Nagel (Germany) -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rwe Sent: Montag, 14. März 2011 04:21 To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS old photo Is there anyone on the group who is pretty good at judging an old pic by the clothes worn and detecting age ranges? I have an old family pic we are not certain who is in the picture. It is a studio pic of only 2 women. Both are wearing a lace like top and the one is wearing a very large hat with a lot of ruffels and lace looking material. Both women have their hair pinned up.I am thinking one may be my 2nd great grandmother. Thanks, Rick rwe38133@yahoo.com
No, most likely I would say it is probably from LaSalle Co., IL.Someone suggested posting it to Ancestorville on FaceBook, which I just posted there. Thanks for attempting to assist. I really appreciate it. --- On Mon, 3/14/11, Vera Nagel <vpanews@t-online.de> wrote: From: Vera Nagel <vpanews@t-online.de> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS old photo To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 2:56 AM Hi Rick, so this photo was most likely taken in Germany, right? If so, please provide it to my email address (as to be found within the header of this post) and I'll have a look to give it a try. Best, Vera Nagel (Germany) -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rwe Sent: Montag, 14. März 2011 04:21 To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS old photo Is there anyone on the group who is pretty good at judging an old pic by the clothes worn and detecting age ranges? I have an old family pic we are not certain who is in the picture. It is a studio pic of only 2 women. Both are wearing a lace like top and the one is wearing a very large hat with a lot of ruffels and lace looking material. Both women have their hair pinned up.I am thinking one may be my 2nd great grandmother. Thanks, Rick rwe38133@yahoo.com For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you so much for your reply. Lillian Gibson
Thank you very much on the lead. I will try to get in touch with the Dinkles Bakery and view their family history list. Thanks, Lillian Gibson
I apologize to everyone who has tried to help me find Uncle Karl. It is so hard for me to not get interrupted, and then when I do it is hard for me to regain the thread of information. I have yet to follow most leads, but will try this week as my husband is travelling and I can stay up all night if I want!! Ursula, Again, thank you for all your work. Regarding your March 6 post below, a few years ago I found this ship manifest also and paid for a copy of it as I was very sure it was Uncle Karl, too. However, I did not follow this lead because the parent name was wrong (I know the Rotschild's were friends of the family, but for some reason he listed them as parents. This is all likely part of the mystery as to why he cut any ties with the family and left for the U.S.) and my mother didn't know of an Aunt named Doolittle. It looks to me like her town is Binghamton, NY. Do you think the addresses given in rows 5 and 6 are for Miss Doolittle, so I should follow up on them? What does it mean that Non Immigrant Alien was stamped under the Last Permanent Residence column? "The search for your uncle Carl was easier than you had anticipated. Unfortunately, the customs officer 'overwrote' some of the text on the passenger ship list but the from the data you will see that this is unquestionably your uncle Carl. I found him under "Carl Jaeger" at the ellisisland.org site. Here is the information: Carl Jaeger, 25, single, student, non-immigrant alien, last permanent residence Frankfurt/Main; born in Graudenz, Germany. Parents name and address: Idor [possibly Isidor] Rothchild, Frankfurt/Main, Allee 23. Sailing from Cherbourg, France on 27 April 1910 on the ship "S.S. Teutonic" arriving in NY 5 May 1910. Destination: Aunt, Mrs. Doolittle.....place name illegible...New York; I can tell by the name that he and his parents were Jewish, but am wondering why he had a different surname. According to his immigration status he had come under a student visa but may have later decided to stay in the US. I hope this puts some closure on this part of the family. You will now need to check whether he was captured by the 1910 census in NY and the two censuses following." Bettina
Sorry I forgot to include in my original post that he was born FRANZ HEINRICH UCHTMANN in Lohne, Oldenburg, Germany in 1853. After immigration in 1873, he lived in Cincinnati, Ohio all his life as a furniture maker. He married Anna Margaretha Tepe in 1882. One brother immigrated to Cincinnati in 1871, and another (my gr grandfather) in 1880. F. Henry immigrated sometime in-between (he says 1873). Kathy Payne > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:17 AM > Subject: [G-P-L] F. HENRY UCHTMANN Emigration from Germany > > Hi everyone!! Since you are all so resourceful, I'm asking for suggestion > on what to do next in searching for the Ship's Manifest for my family > member, F. HENRY UCHTMANN. His naturalization papers say he immigrated > from Bremen to Baltimore and arrived on September 21, 1873. I can't find > > him. (I do know that sometimes people could not remember the exact date > of their arrival when filling out immigration papers a few years later. > That's why > I've searched on time spans, not that specific date.) > > I have looked at the Baltimore Indexes using Soundex; the alphabetical > listings for Boston, New Orleans and Philadelphia for the appropriate time > span (approx. mid 1800's-late 1800's). Nothing. > > I have NOT been able to look at anything for New York for that time span. > My local library does not have an index for that time span. > > I'm thinking now that the name has been mis-transcribed. Is that a safe > assumption, or does anyone have a suggestion for how/where else to > look???? > (I have seen this surname mis-read/mis-transcribed on various Census > reports and other documents as: VDETMANN; NCHTMANN; WATTMANN; NEHTMANN). > > Many thanks for any help. > > Kathy Payne > > Researching Surnames: > UCHTMANN, ARLINGHAUS, KOHRMANN, BEUERLEIN-Germany MEES, SCHULTZ, JACOB- > Alsace-Lorraine BEHYMER, SWISHER - Ohio
Is there anyone on the group who is pretty good at judging an old pic by the clothes worn and detecting age ranges? I have an old family pic we are not certain who is in the picture. It is a studio pic of only 2 women. Both are wearing a lace like top and the one is wearing a very large hat with a lot of ruffels and lace looking material. Both women have their hair pinned up.I am thinking one may be my 2nd great grandmother. Thanks, Rick rwe38133@yahoo.com
Hello Rick, Before someone calls me on my error. Correction: Le Havre of course is in France; I had Antwerp, Belgium on my mind. One more thing: when responding to a query from the GPL DIGEST, please delete all the previous messages that are automatically attached. This eliminates a lot paper waste when printing a particular message. Thank you. Ursula. -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rwe Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 2:35 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 I have a few questions on this subject myself. I am attempting to associate a couple that arrived at Castle Garden in 1867 as my ancestors. With the little info that I have, they do fit, but no defining link at this time.The names and the ages fit almost perfectly. If my ancestors would have left the eastern section of Bavaria, would they still have used ports of Belgium and France? And the list that is on castlegarden.org, would the information been collect upon departure or arrival? For my particular ancestors, the Stager's, I believe it is they who arrived in Nov 1867 aboard the Arago. It lists the port of departure as Falmouth & La Havre. I don't know if this is them, once again, but the names and their ages are correct, if this is info collected upon boarding. They were from Bavaria, possibly from the area of Passau. Not found them in Germany, yet. Thank you,Rick
Hello Rick, I have attached a link to a map of Europe. Click on it and compare the distance from Munich [Bavaria] to Paris and Belgium and the distance from Munich to Hamburg or Bremen and you will see that the closest route to the Atlantic is by traveling West to France rather than North to Hamburg. They did have an excellent railway system in Europe by 1867. Also, let me remind you that ships returning to the US after having delivered goods to England and/or Bremen or Hamburg, were required by law to make at least one stop in a European port before returning to the US. Thus, in your case - the ship Arago - which probably departed at Falmouth, England had one stop-over at the Belgium port of LeHavre where it picked up additional passengers, namely your John and Anna STEGER, who had traveled there from Eastern Bavaria. That's one scenario. Here is the other scenario. It could also have been that the ship Arago delivered goods to LeHavre or some other port along the coast of France taking on passengers in LeHavre and from there sailed to Falmouth, England to pick up more passengers before returning to the US. http://mapofeurope.com/europe/ I hope this now makes sense to you. When you say that your ancestors came from Eastern Bavaria I assume that you know the town/village from which they came, yes? It's actually quite easy to verify that you have the right couple by checking the 1870 census of the US state/county/town in which they settled. I assume that you used the Anglicized spelling of their surname rather than the German spelling of STEGER. Best wishes, Ursula -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rwe Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 2:35 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 I have a few questions on this subject myself. I am attempting to associate a couple that arrived at Castle Garden in 1867 as my ancestors. With the little info that I have, they do fit, but no defining link at this time.The names and the ages fit almost perfectly. If my ancestors would have left the eastern section of Bavaria, would they still have used ports of Belgium and France? And the list that is on castlegarden.org, would the information been collect upon departure or arrival? For my particular ancestors, the Stager's, I believe it is they who arrived in Nov 1867 aboard the Arago. It lists the port of departure as Falmouth & La Havre. I don't know if this is them, once again, but the names and their ages are correct, if this is info collected upon boarding. They were from Bavaria, possibly from the area of Passau. Not found them in Germany, yet. Thank you,Rick --- On Fri, 3/11/11, Ursula B Adamson <ubatrans@comcast.net> wrote: From: Ursula B Adamson <ubatrans@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 8:58 AM Hello Walter, There is no website per se but rather you need to subscribe to Ancestry.com. FYI the Hamburg Passenger Lists are DEPARTURE records - the same records, which are the ARRIVAL records of the same ships have been indexed at Ancestry. Therefore, if you haven't found your ancestor among the ARRIVALS in NY or Baltimore, chances are they departed from and arrived at a different port. Having said that, if you know the year in which your ancestors left Hamburg, then there are certain steps you must take to locate the passenger ship list.
Hello Ursula- I have attempted to locate them in the 1870 census. The earlies that I have been able to find them in the census is 1880. My great grandmother, Theresa, was born in LaSalle Co., IL in 1871. I suspect there was a child born before her that may not have survived. Her parents were married prior to leaving Germany in 1867.I found this couple who spelled it STEGER, but with the earliest record I have for my own family, being my great grandmothers baptismal record, it has always been spelled STAGER. I don't know how the German version is spelled due to having found so many variations. Steeger, Steiger, Stoeger, etc. I am not certain if this couple are my gr. great grandparents, but now this makes one more thing making them more suspect.Both of my gr great grandparents were born in June. He was born 6/4/1841, she was born 6/22/1843.The only thing that I have as for location is Bavaria. On the 1930 census, my great grandmother has what looks like "Posen" for her parents birthplace, but I am thinking it was meant as Passau. Posen is in old Poland, correct? There is no Posen in the Bavarian state. Thank you again,Rick --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Ursula B Adamson <ubatrans@comcast.net> wrote: From: Ursula B Adamson <ubatrans@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 3:15 PM Hello Rick, I have attached a link to a map of Europe. Click on it and compare the distance from Munich [Bavaria] to Paris and Belgium and the distance from Munich to Hamburg or Bremen and you will see that the closest route to the Atlantic is by traveling West to France rather than North to Hamburg. They did have an excellent railway system in Europe by 1867. Also, let me remind you that ships returning to the US after having delivered goods to England and/or Bremen or Hamburg, were required by law to make at least one stop in a European port before returning to the US. Thus, in your case - the ship Arago - which probably departed at Falmouth, England had one stop-over at the Belgium port of LeHavre where it picked up additional passengers, namely your John and Anna STEGER, who had traveled there from Eastern Bavaria. That's one scenario. Here is the other scenario. It could also have been that the ship Arago delivered goods to LeHavre or some other port along the coast of France taking on passengers in LeHavre and from there sailed to Falmouth, England to pick up more passengers before returning to the US. http://mapofeurope.com/europe/ I hope this now makes sense to you. When you say that your ancestors came from Eastern Bavaria I assume that you know the town/village from which they came, yes? It's actually quite easy to verify that you have the right couple by checking the 1870 census of the US state/county/town in which they settled. I assume that you used the Anglicized spelling of their surname rather than the German spelling of STEGER. Best wishes, Ursula -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rwe Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 2:35 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 I have a few questions on this subject myself. I am attempting to associate a couple that arrived at Castle Garden in 1867 as my ancestors. With the little info that I have, they do fit, but no defining link at this time.The names and the ages fit almost perfectly. If my ancestors would have left the eastern section of Bavaria, would they still have used ports of Belgium and France? And the list that is on castlegarden.org, would the information been collect upon departure or arrival? For my particular ancestors, the Stager's, I believe it is they who arrived in Nov 1867 aboard the Arago. It lists the port of departure as Falmouth & La Havre. I don't know if this is them, once again, but the names and their ages are correct, if this is info collected upon boarding. They were from Bavaria, possibly from the area of Passau. Not found them in Germany, yet. Thank you,Rick