Hello Nancy, What a precious find. I have contacted the descendant of Pauline Schmidt nee Vogelbacher after I found her family tree online. I have given the family researcher your email address. His surname is TTSchakert. He had posted the following obituary online, which corresponds with the info contained in the bible. I did not find any family tree for Oehler, however, there is a chance that the surname was changed. Here is the obit: Thursday November 17, 1955 Services Saturday For Mrs . J. Schmidt On Saturday afternoon at 3 o'clock, services were held from the Trinity Lutheran Church, Ortonville, for Mrs. John Schmidt, whose death occurred at her home here Wednesday, November 8, at the age of 85. Rev. E. R. Priess conducted the services. Interment was in Mound cemetery. Soloist at the service was Jerome Delgehausen, who was accompanied at the organ by Mrs. Ernest Stoltenberg. Paulina Vogelbacher was born on June 8, 1870, in Lausheim, Baden, Germany. She came to America at the age of 21 and on May 30, 1894, she was united in marriage at Piper City, Illinois with John Schmidt. In 1909 the family established their home on a farm in Yellow Bank Township. Since her husbands death in 1928 she made her home in Ortonville. She leaves two daughters; Mrs. Arthur Oehler (Ruth) of Milbank and Mrs. Helen Kelzer of New Ulm, one son Fred of Big Stone City, several grandchildren, 23 great-grandchildren, and one brother August Vogelbacher of Piper City, Illinois. Pallbearers were Leonard Fitzner, Henry Roelke, Ernest Stoltenberg, Robert Baerwald, George Kelzer and A. C. Saeger. Best wishes, Ursula -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nancy sanders Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:01 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] Please ignore my last email Thanks, I will do that, I had no intention of disposing of the bible, I just don't destroy bibles of any religion. I checked genforum and there is no forum for Oehler, but I did post the same information on the schmidt forum. nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "nancy sanders" <nancy_ellen56@yahoo.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:41 PM Subject: [G-P-L] schmidt / Oehler family bible info

I looked on the internet at whitepages.com and many with the Oehler name live in Iowa and Minnesota and lists their ages. If you could get on a website for Iowa or Minnesota I am sure someone would know them and contact someone that is interested in genealogy of the family. That information is too precious to dispose of and if it were my family would pay for any price that you would have to give to find someone. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "nancy sanders" <nancy_ellen56@yahoo.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:41 PM Subject: [G-P-L] schmidt / Oehler family bible info >I sold my shop and in sorting through things, I found a bible possibly >belonging > to Ruth Oehler. > > On the inside cover are three german poems?, taped to the cover, the next > page > is a glued page that says " A cousin of mine on the Schmidt side: > Lina Mack, Untersdheffach, Kries Sahivabish Hall, Wurttenberg-Germany, > another name on same page is: Mrs. William (marie) Hausler, Karlsrue, > klauprecht > Street 47, Germany. There is an arrow pointing to this name and a > statement: Her > mother a Kern born Schmidt, a cousin, address Fritz Kern, Unterashpach, > Kreis > Hall, Wurttenberg Germany. > > Elise Kech Lausheim, Post- Grmmerlshofen, Baden Germnay > Esther it Karl Stier krs Hall, Ester is a daughter of Mrs. Anna Heninger, > Untershpach, Hall, Wurttenberg > > on the next page is a paper taped and Says Old German Prayers taught us, > by our > mother and which she used on her death bed, Paulina Schmidt, Ruth Oehler > > Ruth Catherina Schmidt was born in Mason City Iowa,june 4 1895, she > married > Arthur August Herman Oehler Sept 16 1914, he was born in Yellow Back, he > was > born may 7 1890. > > His parents are Tobia Oehler and Albertina Ninneman, her parents are John > Schmidt and Paulina Vogelbacker. > > Children of Ruth and Arthur are Donald, Muriel whom married a > Bunting,Raymond, > Gerald, and Jeannette whom married a Ceser. > > Johan Schmidt was born april 10, 1863 in Wurttenberg, and died may 11 > 1928. His > wife Paulina Volgelbacker born Baden Germany June 8 1888, and died Nov 9 > 1955 in > Ortonville Minn. > > It also mentions Frederic G. Schmidt and says Helens death Aug 29, 1959. > It also states that john Schmidt is the son of Simeon and Katherina > Phillips. > > Another passage has the information: Uncle Gus born Baden Germany dec 26 > 1867, > Parents John and Notburger Hettig Vogelbacker, Gus 5th of 6 children, He > was 1st > one to come to America, Their mother killed by lightening, he was 9 yrs, > 17 yrs > old when he came over 1884 with Cousin Anthony Boma. > Ursala Hedich mother of Notburga Hedich Vogelbacher Mother of Paulina > Vogelbacher Schmidt mother of Ruth Schmidt Oehler mother of muriel Oehler > Bunting, Jeanette Oehler Ceser and 3 sons. > > The Oeler grandchildren are listed and so are the parents of > Auther Oeler. > > If there is an interest or connection to this family, you may email me for > further info. > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 5976 (20110322) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6237 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thanks Ursula, I think I will copy this obit and add it to the Bible, seems fitting. Funny that it turned up in Paris, Texas. I am sure that I must have gotten it at an auction and had just never sorted through the box til now. Thinking back, I didn't attend the auction where this must have come from, but was in the purchase of the remnants that were not bidded on and I bought the remaining property in bulk. nancy ----- Original Message ---- From: Ursula B Adamson <ubatrans@comcast.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 10:44:17 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Schmidt / Oehler Family Bible Hello Nancy, What a precious find. I have contacted the descendant of Pauline Schmidt nee Vogelbacher after I found her family tree online. I have given the family researcher your email address. His surname is TTSchakert. He had posted the following obituary online, which corresponds with the info contained in the bible. I did not find any family tree for Oehler, however, there is a chance that the surname was changed. Here is the obit: Thursday November 17, 1955 Services Saturday For Mrs . J. Schmidt On Saturday afternoon at 3 o'clock, services were held from the Trinity Lutheran Church, Ortonville, for Mrs. John Schmidt, whose death occurred at her home here Wednesday, November 8, at the age of 85. Rev. E. R. Priess conducted the services. Interment was in Mound cemetery. Soloist at the service was Jerome Delgehausen, who was accompanied at the organ by Mrs. Ernest Stoltenberg. Paulina Vogelbacher was born on June 8, 1870, in Lausheim, Baden, Germany. She came to America at the age of 21 and on May 30, 1894, she was united in marriage at Piper City, Illinois with John Schmidt. In 1909 the family established their home on a farm in Yellow Bank Township. Since her husbands death in 1928 she made her home in Ortonville. She leaves two daughters; Mrs. Arthur Oehler (Ruth) of Milbank and Mrs. Helen Kelzer of New Ulm, one son Fred of Big Stone City, several grandchildren, 23 great-grandchildren, and one brother August Vogelbacher of Piper City, Illinois. Pallbearers were Leonard Fitzner, Henry Roelke, Ernest Stoltenberg, Robert Baerwald, George Kelzer and A. C. Saeger. Best wishes, Ursula -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nancy sanders Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:01 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] Please ignore my last email Thanks, I will do that, I had no intention of disposing of the bible, I just don't destroy bibles of any religion. I checked genforum and there is no forum for Oehler, but I did post the same information on the schmidt forum. nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "nancy sanders" <nancy_ellen56@yahoo.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:41 PM Subject: [G-P-L] schmidt / Oehler family bible info For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might also see if there is a surname message board at Rootsweb and Ancestry. Susan Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2011, at 8:00 PM, nancy sanders <nancy_ellen56@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks, I will do that, I had no intention of disposing of the bible, I just > don't destroy bibles of any religion. I checked genforum and there is no forum > for Oehler, but I did post the same information on the schmidt forum. > > nancy > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jan Kokrda <kokrdaj@cox.net> > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 9:50:18 PM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] schmidt / Oehler family bible info > > I looked on the internet at whitepages.com and many with the Oehler name > live in Iowa and Minnesota and lists their ages. > If you could get on a website for Iowa or Minnesota I am sure someone would > know them and contact someone that is > interested in genealogy of the family. That information is too precious to > dispose of and if it were my family would pay for > any price that you would have to give to find someone. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nancy sanders" <nancy_ellen56@yahoo.com> > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:41 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] schmidt / Oehler family bible info > > >> I sold my shop and in sorting through things, I found a bible possibly >> belonging >> to Ruth Oehler. >> >> On the inside cover are three german poems?, taped to the cover, the next >> page >> is a glued page that says " A cousin of mine on the Schmidt side: >> Lina Mack, Untersdheffach, Kries Sahivabish Hall, Wurttenberg-Germany, >> another name on same page is: Mrs. William (marie) Hausler, Karlsrue, >> klauprecht >> Street 47, Germany. There is an arrow pointing to this name and a >> statement: Her >> mother a Kern born Schmidt, a cousin, address Fritz Kern, Unterashpach, >> Kreis >> Hall, Wurttenberg Germany. >> >> Elise Kech Lausheim, Post- Grmmerlshofen, Baden Germnay >> Esther it Karl Stier krs Hall, Ester is a daughter of Mrs. Anna Heninger, >> Untershpach, Hall, Wurttenberg >> >> on the next page is a paper taped and Says Old German Prayers taught us, >> by our >> mother and which she used on her death bed, Paulina Schmidt, Ruth Oehler >> >> Ruth Catherina Schmidt was born in Mason City Iowa,june 4 1895, she >> married >> Arthur August Herman Oehler Sept 16 1914, he was born in Yellow Back, he >> was >> born may 7 1890. >> >> His parents are Tobia Oehler and Albertina Ninneman, her parents are John >> Schmidt and Paulina Vogelbacker. >> >> Children of Ruth and Arthur are Donald, Muriel whom married a >> Bunting,Raymond, >> Gerald, and Jeannette whom married a Ceser. >> >> Johan Schmidt was born april 10, 1863 in Wurttenberg, and died may 11 >> 1928. His >> wife Paulina Volgelbacker born Baden Germany June 8 1888, and died Nov 9 >> 1955 in >> Ortonville Minn. >> >> It also mentions Frederic G. Schmidt and says Helens death Aug 29, 1959. >> It also states that john Schmidt is the son of Simeon and Katherina >> Phillips. >> >> Another passage has the information: Uncle Gus born Baden Germany dec 26 >> 1867, >> Parents John and Notburger Hettig Vogelbacker, Gus 5th of 6 children, He >> was 1st >> one to come to America, Their mother killed by lightening, he was 9 yrs, >> 17 yrs >> old when he came over 1884 with Cousin Anthony Boma. >> Ursala Hedich mother of Notburga Hedich Vogelbacher Mother of Paulina >> Vogelbacher Schmidt mother of Ruth Schmidt Oehler mother of muriel Oehler >> Bunting, Jeanette Oehler Ceser and 3 sons. >> >> The Oeler grandchildren are listed and so are the parents of >> Auther Oeler. >> >> If there is an interest or connection to this family, you may email me for >> further info. >> >> >> >> >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >> http://www.germanyroots.com >> >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 5976 (20110322) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 6237 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, I will do that, I had no intention of disposing of the bible, I just don't destroy bibles of any religion. I checked genforum and there is no forum for Oehler, but I did post the same information on the schmidt forum. nancy ----- Original Message ---- From: Jan Kokrda <kokrdaj@cox.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 9:50:18 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] schmidt / Oehler family bible info I looked on the internet at whitepages.com and many with the Oehler name live in Iowa and Minnesota and lists their ages. If you could get on a website for Iowa or Minnesota I am sure someone would know them and contact someone that is interested in genealogy of the family. That information is too precious to dispose of and if it were my family would pay for any price that you would have to give to find someone. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "nancy sanders" <nancy_ellen56@yahoo.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:41 PM Subject: [G-P-L] schmidt / Oehler family bible info >I sold my shop and in sorting through things, I found a bible possibly >belonging > to Ruth Oehler. > > On the inside cover are three german poems?, taped to the cover, the next > page > is a glued page that says " A cousin of mine on the Schmidt side: > Lina Mack, Untersdheffach, Kries Sahivabish Hall, Wurttenberg-Germany, > another name on same page is: Mrs. William (marie) Hausler, Karlsrue, > klauprecht > Street 47, Germany. There is an arrow pointing to this name and a > statement: Her > mother a Kern born Schmidt, a cousin, address Fritz Kern, Unterashpach, > Kreis > Hall, Wurttenberg Germany. > > Elise Kech Lausheim, Post- Grmmerlshofen, Baden Germnay > Esther it Karl Stier krs Hall, Ester is a daughter of Mrs. Anna Heninger, > Untershpach, Hall, Wurttenberg > > on the next page is a paper taped and Says Old German Prayers taught us, > by our > mother and which she used on her death bed, Paulina Schmidt, Ruth Oehler > > Ruth Catherina Schmidt was born in Mason City Iowa,june 4 1895, she > married > Arthur August Herman Oehler Sept 16 1914, he was born in Yellow Back, he > was > born may 7 1890. > > His parents are Tobia Oehler and Albertina Ninneman, her parents are John > Schmidt and Paulina Vogelbacker. > > Children of Ruth and Arthur are Donald, Muriel whom married a > Bunting,Raymond, > Gerald, and Jeannette whom married a Ceser. > > Johan Schmidt was born april 10, 1863 in Wurttenberg, and died may 11 > 1928. His > wife Paulina Volgelbacker born Baden Germany June 8 1888, and died Nov 9 > 1955 in > Ortonville Minn. > > It also mentions Frederic G. Schmidt and says Helens death Aug 29, 1959. > It also states that john Schmidt is the son of Simeon and Katherina > Phillips. > > Another passage has the information: Uncle Gus born Baden Germany dec 26 > 1867, > Parents John and Notburger Hettig Vogelbacker, Gus 5th of 6 children, He > was 1st > one to come to America, Their mother killed by lightening, he was 9 yrs, > 17 yrs > old when he came over 1884 with Cousin Anthony Boma. > Ursala Hedich mother of Notburga Hedich Vogelbacher Mother of Paulina > Vogelbacher Schmidt mother of Ruth Schmidt Oehler mother of muriel Oehler > Bunting, Jeanette Oehler Ceser and 3 sons. > > The Oeler grandchildren are listed and so are the parents of > Auther Oeler. > > If there is an interest or connection to this family, you may email me for > further info. > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 5976 (20110322) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6237 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I sold my shop and in sorting through things, I found a bible possibly belonging to Ruth Oehler. On the inside cover are three german poems?, taped to the cover, the next page is a glued page that says " A cousin of mine on the Schmidt side: Lina Mack, Untersdheffach, Kries Sahivabish Hall, Wurttenberg-Germany, another name on same page is: Mrs. William (marie) Hausler, Karlsrue, klauprecht Street 47, Germany. There is an arrow pointing to this name and a statement: Her mother a Kern born Schmidt, a cousin, address Fritz Kern, Unterashpach, Kreis Hall, Wurttenberg Germany. Elise Kech Lausheim, Post- Grmmerlshofen, Baden Germnay Esther it Karl Stier krs Hall, Ester is a daughter of Mrs. Anna Heninger, Untershpach, Hall, Wurttenberg on the next page is a paper taped and Says Old German Prayers taught us, by our mother and which she used on her death bed, Paulina Schmidt, Ruth Oehler Ruth Catherina Schmidt was born in Mason City Iowa,june 4 1895, she married Arthur August Herman Oehler Sept 16 1914, he was born in Yellow Back, he was born may 7 1890. His parents are Tobia Oehler and Albertina Ninneman, her parents are John Schmidt and Paulina Vogelbacker. Children of Ruth and Arthur are Donald, Muriel whom married a Bunting,Raymond, Gerald, and Jeannette whom married a Ceser. Johan Schmidt was born april 10, 1863 in Wurttenberg, and died may 11 1928. His wife Paulina Volgelbacker born Baden Germany June 8 1888, and died Nov 9 1955 in Ortonville Minn. It also mentions Frederic G. Schmidt and says Helens death Aug 29, 1959. It also states that john Schmidt is the son of Simeon and Katherina Phillips. Another passage has the information: Uncle Gus born Baden Germany dec 26 1867, Parents John and Notburger Hettig Vogelbacker, Gus 5th of 6 children, He was 1st one to come to America, Their mother killed by lightening, he was 9 yrs, 17 yrs old when he came over 1884 with Cousin Anthony Boma. Ursala Hedich mother of Notburga Hedich Vogelbacher Mother of Paulina Vogelbacher Schmidt mother of Ruth Schmidt Oehler mother of muriel Oehler Bunting, Jeanette Oehler Ceser and 3 sons. The Oeler grandchildren are listed and so are the parents of Auther Oeler. If there is an interest or connection to this family, you may email me for further info.

Myra, thanks for your posting. It really brought home memories about what my grandparents told us about their own parent's lives after coming to Michigan from Germany in the mid 1800s. Both people in these marriages were partners, and they depended on each other to survive, and thrive. I don't remember ANY "I" or "me" attitudes. It was always "we" and I loved those times. My wife and I carry on this attitude throughout our married live and teach our kids and grandkids to respect each other and to serve each other. This has worked for 50 years of our marriage. Should work for another 50. Robert Brenner >From St. Clair, Michigan -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:01 AM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 49 Today's Topics: 1. Re: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Euchner (Myra Herron) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 05:45:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Myra Herron <woodseyowllover@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Euchner To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <416.72428.qm@web111718.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >From what I can see, these Germans stayed in touch with each other, writing from the states back to Germany, encouraging each other to come over.? They knew about good places to go to get land and be a success, and let each other know about them.? Many times, there were enclaves of Germans, not always from the same areas in Germany, but all speaking German and going to the same churches, in the states.? I remember when I was young, in Alpena, MI, hearing grandmother still speaking with thick German accents to us children, and in German to each other.? My forays into the 'dime stores' were always wonderful, just in listening to the varieties of languages spoken there.? I heard mostly French, Polish and German in Alpena.? And believe me, there WAS a French Catholic Church, a Polish Catholic Church and a German Lutheran Church, all in the same town.? ? Most likely, the Euchners who moved to the US had made contacts with others who were already here, and knew exactly where they were going to go.? John Euchner probably knew what his travels would be like, and in the stops across the states, met and liked his future wife.? Many times, they would ask for a hand in marriage, and if the couple liked each other, they married.? Not like now, where we have to be 'in love' or something like that.? They knew that their lives depended on a good man to earn money to live on, a wife who could have babies and keep house and pitch in on a farm, etc., and good fortune as well.? But they tended to stick together.? ? One of my ancestors asked one of my other ancestors for her hand in marriage.? She turned him down, having her eye on another gentleman farmer in the neighborhood.? She married the other guy and had a good life.? So, he, not giving up, asked her younger sister for her hand, and after her mother's prodding, she accepted.? They also had a good life after that.? Not much courting, just look, ask and see what comes around.? They didn't have a lot of money, and worked very hard all their lives, and were happy all that time.? And that man was the start of our Scottish heritage!? ? You're lucky to know as much as you do about your guy.? I'm still trying to find the family of my great grandfather in New York, and so far, have only one family that sort of fits his description.? Not exactly, so I'm not satisfied they are the right ones.? And they only were found in ONE census, and are all lost after that.? ? MYRA HERRON Honk if you love Jesus. Text while driving if you want to meet him. --- On Mon, 3/21/11, Chas7116@aol.com <Chas7116@aol.com> wrote: From: Chas7116@aol.com <Chas7116@aol.com> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Euchner To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 1:05 AM John Euchner - Born 1838, January 6 in Grafenberg NT., RT., Germany. I have his family tree from Germany (1638 - 1854) researching now US? 1854 - 1869 What I have and believe follows and further thoughts appreciated. Church books state registered to Emigrate in 1854 at age 16 - no? records of when left or landing Angel's information states Married and first two children born in? Tazewell County, Illinois prior to 1867. Only proof papers after Church records is Land Purchase in 1869? Iroquois County, Illinois. Wife Mary (Stofer - 1860) Stauffer and sister Emma located in? 1860 Censes Kalamazoo Michigan. ? ? ? ? There were seven? additional children and parents buried in Martinton Iroquois? Illinois. I have a note that John had a sister Mary (Born Anna Maria 1846)? dies USA that matches a Mary wife of Justus Faupel married in Tazewell County,? Illinois and buried in Martinton.? Sister Emma is with the family in Martinton? censes. How/where did he meet Mary = Kalamazoo or Tazewell - Travel through? Mi. on way to Illinois. Why Tazewell then to Iroquois Illinois. Great uncle born 1802 and son born 1840 and wife and daughter born? 1842 in Kings NY with emigration of 1856. 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>From what I can see, these Germans stayed in touch with each other, writing from the states back to Germany, encouraging each other to come over.  They knew about good places to go to get land and be a success, and let each other know about them.  Many times, there were enclaves of Germans, not always from the same areas in Germany, but all speaking German and going to the same churches, in the states.  I remember when I was young, in Alpena, MI, hearing grandmother still speaking with thick German accents to us children, and in German to each other.  My forays into the 'dime stores' were always wonderful, just in listening to the varieties of languages spoken there.  I heard mostly French, Polish and German in Alpena.  And believe me, there WAS a French Catholic Church, a Polish Catholic Church and a German Lutheran Church, all in the same town.    Most likely, the Euchners who moved to the US had made contacts with others who were already here, and knew exactly where they were going to go.  John Euchner probably knew what his travels would be like, and in the stops across the states, met and liked his future wife.  Many times, they would ask for a hand in marriage, and if the couple liked each other, they married.  Not like now, where we have to be 'in love' or something like that.  They knew that their lives depended on a good man to earn money to live on, a wife who could have babies and keep house and pitch in on a farm, etc., and good fortune as well.  But they tended to stick together.    One of my ancestors asked one of my other ancestors for her hand in marriage.  She turned him down, having her eye on another gentleman farmer in the neighborhood.  She married the other guy and had a good life.  So, he, not giving up, asked her younger sister for her hand, and after her mother's prodding, she accepted.  They also had a good life after that.  Not much courting, just look, ask and see what comes around.  They didn't have a lot of money, and worked very hard all their lives, and were happy all that time.  And that man was the start of our Scottish heritage!    You're lucky to know as much as you do about your guy.  I'm still trying to find the family of my great grandfather in New York, and so far, have only one family that sort of fits his description.  Not exactly, so I'm not satisfied they are the right ones.  And they only were found in ONE census, and are all lost after that.    MYRA HERRON Honk if you love Jesus. Text while driving if you want to meet him. --- On Mon, 3/21/11, Chas7116@aol.com <Chas7116@aol.com> wrote: From: Chas7116@aol.com <Chas7116@aol.com> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Euchner To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 1:05 AM John Euchner - Born 1838, January 6 in Grafenberg NT., RT., Germany. I have his family tree from Germany (1638 - 1854) researching now US  1854 - 1869 What I have and believe follows and further thoughts appreciated. Church books state registered to Emigrate in 1854 at age 16 - no  records of when left or landing Angel's information states Married and first two children born in  Tazewell County, Illinois prior to 1867. Only proof papers after Church records is Land Purchase in 1869  Iroquois County, Illinois. Wife Mary (Stofer - 1860) Stauffer and sister Emma located in  1860 Censes Kalamazoo Michigan.         There were seven  additional children and parents buried in Martinton Iroquois  Illinois. I have a note that John had a sister Mary (Born Anna Maria 1846)  dies USA that matches a Mary wife of Justus Faupel married in Tazewell County,  Illinois and buried in Martinton.  Sister Emma is with the family in Martinton  censes. How/where did he meet Mary = Kalamazoo or Tazewell - Travel through  Mi. on way to Illinois. Why Tazewell then to Iroquois Illinois. Great uncle born 1802 and son born 1840 and wife and daughter born  1842 in Kings NY with emigration of 1856. Euchner - Stauffer - Faupel - Treischel - Bunker - Savoie - Schroeder  - Pilotte Starr Kat - GGGG grandaughter For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Euchner - Born 1838, January 6 in Grafenberg NT., RT., Germany. I have his family tree from Germany (1638 - 1854) researching now US 1854 - 1869 What I have and believe follows and further thoughts appreciated. Church books state registered to Emigrate in 1854 at age 16 - no records of when left or landing Angel's information states Married and first two children born in Tazewell County, Illinois prior to 1867. Only proof papers after Church records is Land Purchase in 1869 Iroquois County, Illinois. Wife Mary (Stofer - 1860) Stauffer and sister Emma located in 1860 Censes Kalamazoo Michigan. There were seven additional children and parents buried in Martinton Iroquois Illinois. I have a note that John had a sister Mary (Born Anna Maria 1846) dies USA that matches a Mary wife of Justus Faupel married in Tazewell County, Illinois and buried in Martinton. Sister Emma is with the family in Martinton censes. How/where did he meet Mary = Kalamazoo or Tazewell - Travel through Mi. on way to Illinois. Why Tazewell then to Iroquois Illinois. Great uncle born 1802 and son born 1840 and wife and daughter born 1842 in Kings NY with emigration of 1856. Euchner - Stauffer - Faupel - Treischel - Bunker - Savoie - Schroeder - Pilotte Starr Kat - GGGG grandaughter

I'm sorry that I didn't make sense to you, Ursula. In using the local Family History Center, it was never mentioned to me that they had access to ancestry.com. From the OP's message, it sounded like a new service was being offered and I was curious. Likewise, I didn't know that there was a "FHC version" separate from the private pay subscriptions and the public library versions. It was always my belief that the main library in Salt Lake City was called the "Family History Library" and the local units, housed in Church branches all over the world, are called "Family History Centers". At least my local one is. And no, as this list has discussed before, FHL doesn't = Ancestry. They are two entirely separate entities. FHL is owned and operated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Ancestry.com is a publicly traded international corporation. The BYU grads who started the company may have been Mormons (I don't know, but it wouldn't surprize me), but the Church was never an owner nor operator of a.c. Likewise, the two entities don't have identical holdings any more than a.c is a mirror site for NARA. (BTW: the Church's holdings are so vast that the data may never all come online - I've read where it would require server capacity beyond what's currently available.) You are indeed fortunate if your library has a full-access version available to you, mine does not. Mine has what they call a "library version" that has limited access. Many portions of the site are not available. Some collections are closed. You can't access any trees or e-mail members with questions. PERSI isn't available. Data from other countries isn't available. Suggestions for corrections can't be submitted. So, most public library users are limited in what they can do even if their library subscribes to a.c Yours, Julia --- On Sat, 3/19/11, Ursula B Adamson <ubatrans@comcast.net> wrote: ...nor Julia's subsequent question makes any sense... ...FHC is an arm of the FHC in Salt Lake City... ...they have always been connected online... ...question whether "they"...use the "library" version or a "full" version is a moot point. They ARE Ancestry... ...confusing the "local public library version" with the "FHC version"... ...Public Libraries have an agreement with Ancestry that allows its patrons the same access...an individual would have by subscription. Ursula

If you are unable to get to Salt Lake City to do research, I would recommend ordering foreign films. I have ordered many German films, some are now on permanent loan at my local FHC. The church records I have dealt with told you which section you were in. So to start with I had the basic- looking in the birth/baptized section - then find my surname. There was a learning curve to figure everything else out, and I had some help from others. As the book says If I can do it (read German) You can too. Plus now I can go back to the films whenever I want. My only question now is do I order the film or wait for it to be put on line at familysearch.org. Researching: Claycamp, Gerlach, Grindle, Magin, Mersinger, Reader, Singleton

I have subscribed to Ancestry and used it at my library branch as well, it looks a bit different at the public library but all of Ancestry's holdings were available there. Ursula - you meant to say the FHL in Salt Lake City. The difference between the FHL and their FHCs, that I have seen, is not every item they have can be ordered to your FHC. Also, I rarely order foreign films because I don't know the language. This is a major reason to visit the International floor of the FHL, translators! And the one I used was trained in reading Old German, which many can't read today. Can't speak to FHC and Ancestry. Susan Sent from my iPhone On Mar 19, 2011, at 11:34 AM, "Ursula B Adamson" <ubatrans@comcast.net> wrote: > Hello, > > Somehow neither Judie's initial answer nor Julia's subsequent question makes > any sense; > > The FHC is an arm of the FHC in Salt Lake City and as far as I know they > have always been connected online....in short, a visit to your local FHC is > virtually the same thing as being at the FHC in Salt Lake City except for > the physical aspect of not being able to open a drawer and pull out a > microfilm of a particular church or a book etc. > > Thus, the question whether "they" - and by that I assume you mean the FHC - > use the "library" version or a "full" version is a moot point. They ARE > Ancestry! > > Perhaps you're confusing the "local public library version" with the "FHC > version". > As was discussed in an earlier thread, some Public Libraries have an > agreement with Ancestry that allows its patrons the same access - for free > - as an individual would have by subscription. > > Ursula > > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > juliasgenes > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 1:34 PM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestry availability > > Do they use the library version or a full version? > > > --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Kinwanted <kinwanted@ida.net> wrote: > ...all FHCs now have Ancestry availble. > > Judie > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Same thing happened to me. My computer locked up and I had to re-start to do a thing. S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Wilde" <scwilde@att.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany >I tried right clicking and chose 'open in new window' and it went on and on > opening new tabs. When I closed that window, it opened tabs on the old > window. > When I closed my browser completely it tried opening a new browser. I had > to > shut down my computer completely to get rid of it. I guess I'll not see > that > presentation of Germany. > > Sue > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bobbi <bobbidoll@optonline.net> > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 3:03:41 PM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany > > Try a right click, then click on open. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Wilde" > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 16 March, 2011 12:13 PM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany > > >>I clicked on Deutschland and it wouldn't quit opening up new tabs! What >>did >>I do >> wrong that Sharon didn't do so she saw it? >> >> Sue >> > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Somehow neither Judie's initial answer nor Julia's subsequent question makes any sense; The FHC is an arm of the FHC in Salt Lake City and as far as I know they have always been connected online....in short, a visit to your local FHC is virtually the same thing as being at the FHC in Salt Lake City except for the physical aspect of not being able to open a drawer and pull out a microfilm of a particular church or a book etc. Thus, the question whether "they" - and by that I assume you mean the FHC - use the "library" version or a "full" version is a moot point. They ARE Ancestry! Perhaps you're confusing the "local public library version" with the "FHC version". As was discussed in an earlier thread, some Public Libraries have an agreement with Ancestry that allows its patrons the same access - for free - as an individual would have by subscription. Ursula -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of juliasgenes Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 1:34 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestry availability Do they use the library version or a full version? --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Kinwanted <kinwanted@ida.net> wrote: ...all FHCs now have Ancestry availble. Judie For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Until recently the only FHCs except SL that had ANcestry wee the Regional FHC-- in the past couple of weeks ANcestry has been made available to all FHC-- except aparently not all Stake FH Libraries have it available. I am not sure why this was except that the FH people made special arrangements with various Sites. for instance, in exchange for sending the digital equipment to Godfrey Library in Middletown Ct for their use, Godfrey has made their own line stuff (basic) available at all FHC. Judie Dunkle missionary Idaho Falls Regional FHC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula B Adamson" <ubatrans@comcast.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestry availability > Hello, > > Somehow neither Judie's initial answer nor Julia's subsequent question > makes > any sense; > > The FHC is an arm of the FHC in Salt Lake City and as far as I know they > have always been connected online....in short, a visit to your local FHC > is > virtually the same thing as being at the FHC in Salt Lake City except for > the physical aspect of not being able to open a drawer and pull out a > microfilm of a particular church or a book etc. > > Thus, the question whether "they" - and by that I assume you mean the > FHC - > use the "library" version or a "full" version is a moot point. They ARE > Ancestry! > > Perhaps you're confusing the "local public library version" with the "FHC > version". > As was discussed in an earlier thread, some Public Libraries have an > agreement with Ancestry that allows its patrons the same access - for > free > - as an individual would have by subscription. > > Ursula > > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > juliasgenes > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 1:34 PM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestry availability > > Do they use the library version or a full version? > > > --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Kinwanted <kinwanted@ida.net> wrote: > ...all FHCs now have Ancestry availble. > > Judie > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Do they use the library version or a full version? --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Kinwanted <kinwanted@ida.net> wrote: ...all FHCs now have Ancestry availble. Judie

Well, I tried it again and it did the same thing. I tried to right click and save the file, but 'save the file' was not an option. Then my husband said to try it on his computer where he has Internet Explorer. While we couldn't get it to work with Openoffice software which is his default we finally could save it and then open it with Power Point software. The he emailed the file to me and I was able to see it using the Microsoft Power Point software. It was complicated and I may not try it again. I think I'll update my Firefox to 4.0 to see if that fixes things. I did like seeing a picture of Bautzen, the home town of many of my ancestors. I've been keeping the ladies at St. Petri Kirche busy making transcripts for me. Sorry for being a bother. Sue ________________________________ From: Wolf Zscheile <saxonyroots@charter.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 5:28:03 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Wolf has another wonderful video of Germany Hello Sue, sorry about your problems ! :-( I just tried it myself again and had no problems.. There must be something within YOUR computer.. Just click on "Deutschland" ( no need for right-clicking) and then the file will be downloaded to your computer.. Maybe some setting within your computer doesn't allow this .. Please try it again and let me know if you still have problems.. Nobody else seems to have them.. Good luck, Wolf > I tried right clicking and chose 'open in new window' and it went on and on > opening new tabs. When I closed that window, it opened tabs on the old window. > When I closed my browser completely it tried opening a new browser. I had to > shut down my computer completely to get rid of it. I guess I'll not see that > presentation of Germany. > > Sue For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jeff, There is more than one person by the name of Aaron Davidson living in TN; there is Aaron the 'Peddler' and Aaron the 'Optometrist'; judging by the surname and the first names, they were Jewish in origin. When I entered 'Aaron Davidson, b. 1832, in the immigration search I found an Aaron Davidson, age 20, single, immigrating from Hamburg, Germany on 20 Jun 1852 on the ship 'Washington'. On the 1870 census I found Aaron Davidson, 35, married to Mollie with children Rachel [4] and Ruth [3] in Memphis [Shelby] TN. On the 1900 census, Aaron, now widowed, he said that he immigrated in 1850. I suggest that you do a little more digging within the family and among the relatives [other siblings of Rachel and Ruth]; a) when and where was he married? b) where was his wife born, date of birth, and so on. c) obtain exact date of birth for Aaron [born around 1832 won't do]; d) when and where was he naturalized; obtain naturalization records. Best of luck with your research. Ursula -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Davidson, Jeff Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 11:09 AM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] Looking for A. Davidson or Aron Davidson or Aaron Davidson Hello, I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather. I have some documents that say he was born in Prussia in around 1832. Have no idea who his parents were. In the 1880 U.S. Census he is listed living in Tennessee, age 48. I have no idea who his parents were or where they might have Been from in Germany. Here is what I know : Name: Aron Davidson Residence: Raleigh, Shelby, Tennessee Birthdate: 1832 Birthplace: Tennessee, United States ---- Other records say Prussia Relationship to Head: Self Spouse's Name: Mary Davidson Spouse's Birthplace: Kentucky, United States Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Mother's Name: Mother's Birthplace: Race or Color (Expanded): White Ethnicity (Standardized): American Gender: Male Martial Status: Married Age (Expanded): 48 years Occupation: Pedler NARA Film Number: T9-1278 Page: 142 Page Character: D Entry Number: 3035 Film number: 1255278 Household Gender Age Aron Davidson M 48 Spouse Mary Davidson <https://familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpil ot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fpal%3A%2FMM9.1.r%2FMHSG-TQV%2Fp_29671330 3> F 29 Child Racheal Davidson <https://familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpil ot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fpal%3A%2FMM9.1.r%2FMHSG-TQV%2Fp_29671330 4> F 13 Child Ruth Davidson <https://familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpil ot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fpal%3A%2FMM9.1.r%2FMHSG-TQV%2Fp_29671330 5> F 11 Child Isidore Davidson <https://familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fpil ot.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fpal%3A%2FMM9.1.r%2FMHSG-TQV%2Fp_29671330 6> M 4 I I don't know where to start looking for him In Germany or Prussia. Any suggestions or websites ----- do not have subscription to Ancestry.Com Thank You, Jeff Davidson For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan, Please let me know if you'd like the copy of the passport application for Stephen A. Kamis before I delete it from my computer. I had over 2000 emails on my laptop and after deleting messages for 2 hours I still have 1422. I promised myself to stop hoarding other people's data as it has taken over my computer. So please reply soon. Best wishes, Ursula. -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of juliasgenes Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:20 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Anton KAMIS & Katerina DIVOKY Hello, Listees - Ursula-the-Superb has sent me Anton's definite 1930 Census sheet and an excellent candidate for Anton & Katerina's passenger manifest - the Koeln, arriving in Baltimore 9 Jul 1881,,,with baby Marie already on board! Marie's birth info came from her death certificate. I should have been suspicious since birth info errors occur time and again in the DCs of my Ewert / Evert / Everett family, also of Cleveland. Thank you, Ursula! --- On Thu, 3/17/11, juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> wrote: ...* Anton KAMIS ...* Katerina/Catherine/Katie DIVOKY. ...their first known child [Marie] was born 5 May 1881 in Cleveland... For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This one came through, Julia. Ramona -----Original Message----- From: juliasgenes Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:42 PM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] bouncing? Hi - Between last tonight and right now, I've tried to rely to 3 messages, but have gotten 3 bounces in a row. Is there a problem on my side or are others getting this? Perplexedly, Julia For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message