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    1. Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70
    2. Carol Rawert Trainer
    3. Names are tricky. My GG's name was Anna Margaretha Heitkemper (& other spellings) in the US. When they cam e to Louisville, Kentucky they used their Plattdeutsch name. But in Heek/Ahle in Westfalen where they came from the Hochdeutsch name is used: Effkemann. If an Effkemann relative had not written to a relative here in the US 15 years ago I would never have found them. Who knew Heitkemper (Heidkamp, Keitkamper, Heitkaemper, etc.) equals Effkemann. Interesting! Check both Low and High Dutch names. ----- Original Message ----- From: <germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:35 PM Subject: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (juliasgenes) > 2. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Brigitte Jahnke) > 3. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Brigitte Jahnke) > 4. Re: Vintage Postcards (Michael Ewing) > 5. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Jeanne Freeman) > 6. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Brigitte Jahnke) > 7. question about Selisia (Judy Wiersema) > 8. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Jeanne Freeman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT) > From: juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <506428.64396.qm@web110003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Greetings, Brigette ~ > > I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US > that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that > common. > > For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the > arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a > fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where > the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) > > (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married > sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family > that I know of so far.) > > Thank you! > > --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: > Klein is a very very very common name in Germany, the 15th frequent of > all the names in our country... > > Brigitte > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:28:18 +0200 > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D98D862.20700@brigittejahnke.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Julia, > > the most easiest: the name Evert comes from an old German given: Eberhard. > Short forms in Germany are: Evert, Everd, Everdt, Ewert, Ewerd, Ewerdt, > Eberd, Eberdt. > > It's always pronounced in the same was, although its written in a > different way. > > Most comon surnames are today: > > Evert: most people live in North-Eastern Germany, also in the Hannover > area, almost none in Southern Germany > Ewerd: all over Germany, very few in Bavaria, rather huge concentration > in Pommern and the eastern parts of Mecklenburg. > Ewert: comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area, most parts of Germany > few families of this name > Ebert: most frequent of these names, in all German areas, most in the > Rhein-Hessen, Franken, Hohenlohe, and Rhein-Neckar area. > > > As far as I know there is a big chance that your Ewert originate from > Mecklenburg or Pommern. In Germany it's a normal surname, nothing > exciting and nothing rare. > Even had a Ewert classmate at primary school, don't know where she is > today. > > There is also a request, unfortunately Terri didn't give her address: > > Terri schrieb am 29.04.2010: > > /Looking for Ewerts may have come from Karlsdorf. My Grandpa is Frank > born 22-3-1880. Came to South and North Dakota. Paper trail in USA is > non existent. Franks parents were Frank and Julianna (Mielke)Ewert. Also > went by Ebert and Evertt. Heard they were from a villiage near Frankfort > or Berlin. Can anyone help. / > > > Brigitte > > Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: >> Greetings, Brigette ~ >> >> I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US >> that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that >> common. >> >> For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the >> arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a >> fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where >> the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) >> >> (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married >> sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family >> that I know of so far.) >> >> Thank you! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:35:14 +0200 > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D98DA02.3060408@brigittejahnke.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Sorry, > > of course Eberd, Eberst is not pronounced like Evert, Ewert, etc..... > > Brigitte > > Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: >> Greetings, Brigette ~ >> >> I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US >> that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that >> common. >> >> For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the >> arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a >> fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where >> the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) >> >> (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married >> sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family >> that I know of so far.) >> >> Thank you! >> >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Brigitte Jahnke<brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: >> Klein is a very very very common name in Germany, the 15th frequent of >> all the names in our country... >> >> Brigitte >> >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >> http://www.germanyroots.com >> >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:39:43 -0700 > From: Michael Ewing <mike.ewing@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Vintage Postcards > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <BANLkTinHi3YyOhKYM2cwNnjGsmcyOnhdaQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ursula, > > Why not just post the contents of this postcard on the > rootsweb/ancestry.comsurname page for Ramm if there is one? Someone > will come looking sooner or > later for this guy. > > Cheers, > Mike > > >> I found Mr. Charles Ramm and his wife Therese on the 1920 census in >> Davenport, Iowa. He said he immigrated in 1906. The postcard was mailed >> from >> Mittweida, Germany on 14 NOV 1906 and arrived in Davenport on 20 NOV >> 1906. >> His friend writes: "How are things going with you? Did you arrive OK? >> Were >> you not seasick?" >> >> Oh how I wish I could inform some descendant of Charles Ramm of this >> postcard! >> >> Ursula >> ____________________________________________________ >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:52:11 -0400 > From: Jeanne Freeman <jeafreeman@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CDC058236F3230-1CC4-14838@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Hello, > > I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. Perhaps > you could help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John (probably > Johann) Dauwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't seem that > common of a German name. Perhaps it was originally from The Netherlands? > I would love to know more about the name Dauwe. > > Jeanne in Phoenix > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 1:28 pm > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > > > Hello Julia, > the most easiest: the name Evert comes from an old German given: Eberhard. > hort forms in Germany are: Evert, Everd, Everdt, Ewert, Ewerd, Ewerdt, > berd, Eberdt. > It's always pronounced in the same was, although its written in a > ifferent way. > Most comon surnames are today: > Evert: most people live in North-Eastern Germany, also in the Hannover > rea, almost none in Southern Germany > werd: all over Germany, very few in Bavaria, rather huge concentration > n Pommern and the eastern parts of Mecklenburg. > wert: comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area, most parts of Germany > ew families of this name > bert: most frequent of these names, in all German areas, most in the > hein-Hessen, Franken, Hohenlohe, and Rhein-Neckar area. > > s far as I know there is a big chance that your Ewert originate from > ecklenburg or Pommern. In Germany it's a normal surname, nothing > xciting and nothing rare. > ven had a Ewert classmate at primary school, don't know where she is > today. > There is also a request, unfortunately Terri didn't give her address: > Terri schrieb am 29.04.2010: > /Looking for Ewerts may have come from Karlsdorf. My Grandpa is Frank > orn 22-3-1880. Came to South and North Dakota. Paper trail in USA is > on existent. Franks parents were Frank and Julianna (Mielke)Ewert. Also > ent by Ebert and Evertt. Heard they were from a villiage near Frankfort > r Berlin. Can anyone help. / > > rigitte > Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: > Greetings, Brigette ~ > > I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US > that > t's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that > common. > > For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the > arrival > f my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a fairly > common > ame, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where the name refers > to a > trong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) > > (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married > isters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family > that I > now of so far.) > > Thank you! > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > Please visit and participate in our new forum > ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:13:46 +0200 > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D98E30A.6040005@brigittejahnke.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Jeanne, > > rather easy to answer. > > There is a couple of Dauwe in the Bentheim and Osnabr?ck area. > But the origin of all Dauwe is a farm ab. 8 miles from my home in the > Tecklenburg, Westfalen area. > > Brigitte > > Am 03.04.2011 22:52, schrieb Jeanne Freeman: >> Hello, >> >> I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. >> Perhaps you could help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John >> (probably Johann) Dauwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't >> seem that common of a German name. Perhaps it was originally from The >> Netherlands? I would love to know more about the name Dauwe. >> >> Jeanne in Phoenix >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:17:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: Judy Wiersema <judybevans@att.net> > Subject: [G-P-L] question about Selisia > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <782714.56327.qm@web180610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Could anyone tell me about the country Selisia, I have been searching for > years > for my ggrands, and now I find out I have been researching in the wrong > place > and they probably came from Selisia, I was visiting the Allen County > Library and > a kind young man from Belgium who was sitting by me, informed me that I > was > looking in the wrong place, and to look at Silesia.? I have never heard of > Silesia.? Their surname I believe was spelled originally as Czechowicz, as > I > have seen other names like that, but not the spelling they used in > America.? In > Silesia there is a province named Katovicz, and Cossel, could they have > used > that for their names when they came here or how did it work on the > passenger > list. I just heard of the country lately.? Both ggrands said they came > from > Prussia, born in 1860. He I think from what family has said was Kolm, they > came > to America in 1887, her name was Amelia Kosel, or Kozal.? There is a town > in > Silesia of Cosel.? I just cant find them anywher.??He spelled their last > name > when they came to America as Karl Cekafetz, sounds like Chic a fetz.? Any > Any > Any help would be tremendously appreciated,? They lived in Taylorville, > and > Decatur IL?all of their lives.? My ggrandmother said she was sorry she > ever let > him over the border, so I think she was German and he was Polish?????? I > am at a > loss, but always depended on each other until they died, even tho married > to > someone else. > > Thank you for any help to guide me in the right direction.? I have?seen a > few > books but not events for during the years 1800 to 1900, it was all after > 1944 > they anyone mentions Silesia > > > ________________________________ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:35:32 -0400 > From: Jeanne Freeman <jeafreeman@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CDC05E31A07FF9-1490-A73E@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Hello Brigitte, > > Thank you so much for your quick response. That is a wonderful surprise. > I have no proof, but I have thought the Dauwe's may have come from > Osnabruck or a village named Lingerich. I'm so interested about the > origin of Dauwe farm. Is one still there? > > Jeanne > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 2:13 pm > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" > > > Hello Jeanne, > rather easy to answer. > There is a couple of Dauwe in the Bentheim and Osnabr?ck area. > ut the origin of all Dauwe is a farm ab. 8 miles from my home in the > ecklenburg, Westfalen area. > Brigitte > Am 03.04.2011 22:52, schrieb Jeanne Freeman: > Hello, > > I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. Perhaps > you > ould help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John (probably Johann) > auwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't seem that common of > a > erman name. Perhaps it was originally from The Netherlands? I would love > to > now more about the name Dauwe. > > Jeanne in Phoenix > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > Please visit and participate in our new forum > ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS list administrator, send an email > to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS mailing list, send an > email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70 > ******************************************************

    04/03/2011 01:43:57
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names"
    2. Jeanne Freeman
    3. Hello Brigitte, Thank you so much for your quick response. That is a wonderful surprise. I have no proof, but I have thought the Dauwe's may have come from Osnabruck or a village named Lingerich. I'm so interested about the origin of Dauwe farm. Is one still there? Jeanne -----Original Message----- From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 2:13 pm Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" Hello Jeanne, rather easy to answer. There is a couple of Dauwe in the Bentheim and Osnabrück area. ut the origin of all Dauwe is a farm ab. 8 miles from my home in the ecklenburg, Westfalen area. Brigitte Am 03.04.2011 22:52, schrieb Jeanne Freeman: Hello, I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. Perhaps you ould help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John (probably Johann) auwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't seem that common of a erman name. Perhaps it was originally from The Netherlands? I would love to now more about the name Dauwe. Jeanne in Phoenix For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

    04/03/2011 11:35:32
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names"
    2. Jeanne Freeman
    3. Hello, I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. Perhaps you could help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John (probably Johann) Dauwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't seem that common of a German name. Perhaps it was originally from The Netherlands? I would love to know more about the name Dauwe. Jeanne in Phoenix -----Original Message----- From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 1:28 pm Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" Hello Julia, the most easiest: the name Evert comes from an old German given: Eberhard. hort forms in Germany are: Evert, Everd, Everdt, Ewert, Ewerd, Ewerdt, berd, Eberdt. It's always pronounced in the same was, although its written in a ifferent way. Most comon surnames are today: Evert: most people live in North-Eastern Germany, also in the Hannover rea, almost none in Southern Germany werd: all over Germany, very few in Bavaria, rather huge concentration n Pommern and the eastern parts of Mecklenburg. wert: comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area, most parts of Germany ew families of this name bert: most frequent of these names, in all German areas, most in the hein-Hessen, Franken, Hohenlohe, and Rhein-Neckar area. s far as I know there is a big chance that your Ewert originate from ecklenburg or Pommern. In Germany it's a normal surname, nothing xciting and nothing rare. ven had a Ewert classmate at primary school, don't know where she is today. There is also a request, unfortunately Terri didn't give her address: Terri schrieb am 29.04.2010: /Looking for Ewerts may have come from Karlsdorf. My Grandpa is Frank orn 22-3-1880. Came to South and North Dakota. Paper trail in USA is on existent. Franks parents were Frank and Julianna (Mielke)Ewert. Also ent by Ebert and Evertt. Heard they were from a villiage near Frankfort r Berlin. Can anyone help. / rigitte Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: Greetings, Brigette ~ I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US that t's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that common. For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the arrival f my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a fairly common ame, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where the name refers to a trong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married isters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family that I now of so far.) Thank you! For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

    04/03/2011 10:52:11
    1. [G-P-L] question about Selisia
    2. Judy Wiersema
    3. Could anyone tell me about the country Selisia, I have been searching for years for my ggrands, and now I find out I have been researching in the wrong place and they probably came from Selisia, I was visiting the Allen County Library and a kind young man from Belgium who was sitting by me, informed me that I was looking in the wrong place, and to look at Silesia.  I have never heard of Silesia.  Their surname I believe was spelled originally as Czechowicz, as I have seen other names like that, but not the spelling they used in America.  In Silesia there is a province named Katovicz, and Cossel, could they have used that for their names when they came here or how did it work on the passenger list. I just heard of the country lately.  Both ggrands said they came from Prussia, born in 1860. He I think from what family has said was Kolm, they came to America in 1887, her name was Amelia Kosel, or Kozal.  There is a town in Silesia of Cosel.  I just cant find them anywher.  He spelled their last name when they came to America as Karl Cekafetz, sounds like Chic a fetz.  Any Any Any help would be tremendously appreciated,  They lived in Taylorville, and Decatur IL all of their lives.  My ggrandmother said she was sorry she ever let him over the border, so I think she was German and he was Polish?????  I am at a loss, but always depended on each other until they died, even tho married to someone else. Thank you for any help to guide me in the right direction.  I have seen a few books but not events for during the years 1800 to 1900, it was all after 1944 they anyone mentions Silesia ________________________________

    04/03/2011 08:17:54
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Vintage Postcards
    2. Michael Ewing
    3. Ursula, Why not just post the contents of this postcard on the rootsweb/ancestry.comsurname page for Ramm if there is one? Someone will come looking sooner or later for this guy. Cheers, Mike > I found Mr. Charles Ramm and his wife Therese on the 1920 census in > Davenport, Iowa. He said he immigrated in 1906. The postcard was mailed from > Mittweida, Germany on 14 NOV 1906 and arrived in Davenport on 20 NOV 1906. > His friend writes: "How are things going with you? Did you arrive OK? Were > you not seasick?" > > Oh how I wish I could inform some descendant of Charles Ramm of this > postcard! > > Ursula > ____________________________________________________ >

    04/03/2011 07:39:43
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names"
    2. juliasgenes
    3. Greetings, Brigette ~ I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that common. For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family that I know of so far.) Thank you! --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: Klein is a very very very common name in Germany, the 15th frequent of all the names in our country... Brigitte

    04/03/2011 06:45:02
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Post card purchases
    2. Brigitte Jahnke
    3. Hi Duane, Klein is a very very very common name in Germany, the 15th frequent of all the names in our country. Mostly to be found in south-western Germany along the Rhine-river. The meaning is small-sized, short, little person. Maybe also a person who had a very small farm. Or it's just a nickname. Best regards from Germany Brigitte Am 02.04.2011 22:26, schrieb Duane Giles: > I was doing a lookup for a friend whose relative was Peter > Kline/Klein....married to Mary Peterson. He was born in 1835 and came from > Koblenz. They lived in the Bronx after coming to America. You noted that > this is an unusual name in Germany& I wondered if there is any connection. >

    04/02/2011 07:41:02
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Post card purchases
    2. Duane Giles
    3. I was doing a lookup for a friend whose relative was Peter Kline/Klein....married to Mary Peterson. He was born in 1835 and came from Koblenz. They lived in the Bronx after coming to America. You noted that this is an unusual name in Germany & I wondered if there is any connection. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter, Joseph" <poew@verizon.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Post card purchases > Thanks you all for help. It gives me a start. My mother's family > (Dittrich & Haewecker) and my paternal grandmother (Klein--now there's > a rare name in Germany) are from Bavaria and my paternal grandfather > (Walter) is from Saxony. > > Joe Walter > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/02/2011 10:26:26
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Post card purchases
    2. Walter, Joseph
    3. Thanks you all for help. It gives me a start. My mother's family (Dittrich & Haewecker) and my paternal grandmother (Klein--now there's a rare name in Germany) are from Bavaria and my paternal grandfather (Walter) is from Saxony. Joe Walter

    04/01/2011 06:56:59
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Matricle Records - Hollstein in Rockensuess
    2. Over the years of grandfathers research, through different web links like roots there have been individuals, much like those here that offer assistance and information that helps eliminate or get around brick walls that we always find creating gaps in family histories. They are all over, much like Angels in the wings offering to assist without seeking any return. I use the word "Angel" as a reference to the many special people we meet as a respect and thank you. The same way as I look to the sky in remembrance of special appreciation for something good. Starr Kat In a message dated 4/1/2011 11:02:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, phillylorri@comcast.net writes: What is Angels in Germany? Thanks Lorri > RT., De. including help from someone with the Stuttgart Church archives > by > way of Angels in Germany and would be happy to return the FREE help to > you. > > Starr Kat - researching Euchner > > > > > > In a message dated 4/1/2011 3:45:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > vpanews@t-online.de writes: join a German mailing list for Hessen and ask > for help there? > > As an aside... regarding the postcard showing houses of Rockensuess and > whether those still exist: > Try to contact Edith and Eberhard Auerswald in Cornberg-Rockensuess and > I am sure they can help you. > Use this website > <http://www.ferienhaus-cornberg-rockensuess.de/index.php?option=com_flex > icontact&Itemid=68> > > >>It appears to me that the Germans have caught on real quick and for a > price are more than anxious to feed >America's hunger for the roots of > its ancestors. > > That's kind of a very bitter statement to which I can't agree at all. I > am really sorry. I for one am one of those "hungry Germans" looking for > roots of their ancestors in the US and was recently confronted with an > estimate of costs from an American archive for 1 record for 150 (!!) > Dollars. > > Vera > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/01/2011 06:28:34
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Matricle Records - Hollstein in Rockensuess
    2. Lorri
    3. What is Angels in Germany? Thanks Lorri > RT., De. including help from someone with the Stuttgart Church archives > by > way of Angels in Germany and would be happy to return the FREE help to > you. > > Starr Kat - researching Euchner > > > > > > In a message dated 4/1/2011 3:45:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > vpanews@t-online.de writes: join a German mailing list for Hessen and ask > for help there? > > As an aside... regarding the postcard showing houses of Rockensuess and > whether those still exist: > Try to contact Edith and Eberhard Auerswald in Cornberg-Rockensuess and > I am sure they can help you. > Use this website > <http://www.ferienhaus-cornberg-rockensuess.de/index.php?option=com_flex > icontact&Itemid=68> > > >>It appears to me that the Germans have caught on real quick and for a > price are more than anxious to feed >America's hunger for the roots of > its ancestors. > > That's kind of a very bitter statement to which I can't agree at all. I > am really sorry. I for one am one of those "hungry Germans" looking for > roots of their ancestors in the US and was recently confronted with an > estimate of costs from an American archive for 1 record for 150 (!!) > Dollars. > > Vera > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/01/2011 05:59:31
    1. Re: [G-P-L] TROSSINGEN POSTCARD PICTURE was Vintage Postcards
    2. Joan Yeckel
    3. I have 2 interesting postcards c.1912 which belonged to my ggrandmother, Elizabeth Rau Brückner, She received them from her sister after she emigrated to St. Louis, Missouri in 1880. I will be happy to forward them to anyone interested in the area: Pfersdorf, Hildburghausen, now in Thruringia. 1. "Aum 300 jährigen Jubilaum der Pfärret, Pfersdorf-Lemrieth". Kirche in Pfersdorf. 2. "Gruss aus Pfersdorf bei Hildburghausen." Scenes of the town. You can email me @ jey1@swbell.net Joan Schaller Yeckel St. Louis, Missouri > If anyone wants a picture of a postcard I bought on line years ago, of Trossingen, let me know. I will email it to them. I bought it from someone in Germany, and he told me that the original village of Trossingen had burned down, and the villagers rebuilt it, and that the postcard was of the new village. > > > > MYRA HERRON > Honk if you love Jesus. > Text while driving if you want to meet him. > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/01/2011 05:25:08
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Matricle Records - Hollstein in Rockensuess
    2. Vera Nagel
    3. Ursula, >While it states that all research is free, there is no online access to the digitized records and if you >locate a town and want to look at the church records [I was interested in Rockensuess, Kurhessen-Waldeck], >a window pops up requesting you to enter a name and they will do a search for 70.00 Euro to start. >That's outside the budget of most family researchers. While I absolutely agree that an hourly rate of 70 Euros is mostly unacceptable why don't you contact the archive in Kassel, holding the microfilmed church books for your parish of interest, directly? Their charges are 18 Euros per half hour plus 1.50 Euro per record copy. Or why don't you simply join a German mailing list for Hessen and ask for help there? As an aside... regarding the postcard showing houses of Rockensuess and whether those still exist: Try to contact Edith and Eberhard Auerswald in Cornberg-Rockensuess and I am sure they can help you. Use this website <http://www.ferienhaus-cornberg-rockensuess.de/index.php?option=com_flex icontact&Itemid=68> >It appears to me that the Germans have caught on real quick and for a price are more than anxious to feed >America's hunger for the roots of its ancestors. That's kind of a very bitter statement to which I can't agree at all. I am really sorry. I for one am one of those "hungry Germans" looking for roots of their ancestors in the US and was recently confronted with an estimate of costs from an American archive for 1 record for 150 (!!) Dollars. Vera

    04/01/2011 04:42:34
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Postcards
    2. I also keyed in my surnames and came up with books, pics and an assortment of things to look at. A fun site. Thanks for including it. May find something to buy! In a message dated 4/1/2011 2:51:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, brigitte@brigittejahnke.com writes: German ebay has lot's and lot's of historical postcards. www.ebay.de for rsearch just enter the name of the vllage that you are looking for. Most sellers tell n their conditions whether they ship to America or not. You can pay by paypal just as in America and with postcards postage will not be too expensive. Brigitte who doesn't sell any postards Am 01.04.2011 03:25, schrieb Bobbi: > There are "card" shows. I know there is one in East Northport, and another > one in Allentown, PA each year. > > Bobbi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walter, Joseph" > To:<GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 31 March, 2011 6:55 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] Postcards > > >> Where can you purchase historical postcards? >> >> Joe W. > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/01/2011 04:30:31
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Matricle Records - Hollstein in Rockensuess
    2. Vera - I am not the greatest at research and depend a lot on the list Angels for help. Thus - I am willing to assist on your request as I have a lot of information that was forewarned to my Grandfather for our region of Grafenberg, NT., RT., De. including help from someone with the Stuttgart Church archives by way of Angels in Germany and would be happy to return the FREE help to you. Starr Kat - researching Euchner In a message dated 4/1/2011 3:45:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, vpanews@t-online.de writes: Ursula, >While it states that all research is free, there is no online access to the digitized records and if you >locate a town and want to look at the church records [I was interested in Rockensuess, Kurhessen-Waldeck], >a window pops up requesting you to enter a name and they will do a search for 70.00 Euro to start. >That's outside the budget of most family researchers. While I absolutely agree that an hourly rate of 70 Euros is mostly unacceptable why don't you contact the archive in Kassel, holding the microfilmed church books for your parish of interest, directly? Their charges are 18 Euros per half hour plus 1.50 Euro per record copy. Or why don't you simply join a German mailing list for Hessen and ask for help there? As an aside... regarding the postcard showing houses of Rockensuess and whether those still exist: Try to contact Edith and Eberhard Auerswald in Cornberg-Rockensuess and I am sure they can help you. Use this website <http://www.ferienhaus-cornberg-rockensuess.de/index.php?option=com_flex icontact&Itemid=68> >It appears to me that the Germans have caught on real quick and for a price are more than anxious to feed >America's hunger for the roots of its ancestors. That's kind of a very bitter statement to which I can't agree at all. I am really sorry. I for one am one of those "hungry Germans" looking for roots of their ancestors in the US and was recently confronted with an estimate of costs from an American archive for 1 record for 150 (!!) Dollars. Vera For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/01/2011 04:19:13
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Postcards
    2. Brigitte Jahnke
    3. German ebay has lot's and lot's of historical postcards. www.ebay.de for rsearch just enter the name of the vllage that you are looking for. Most sellers tell n their conditions whether they ship to America or not. You can pay by paypal just as in America and with postcards postage will not be too expensive. Brigitte who doesn't sell any postards Am 01.04.2011 03:25, schrieb Bobbi: > There are "card" shows. I know there is one in East Northport, and another > one in Allentown, PA each year. > > Bobbi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Walter, Joseph" > To:<GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 31 March, 2011 6:55 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] Postcards > > >> Where can you purchase historical postcards? >> >> Joe W. > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/01/2011 03:09:50
    1. Re: [G-P-L] research done by archives
    2. Baerbel Johnson
    3. One more comment regarding the prices charged by archives for doing research. "Service charges" vary considerably from archive to archive. A lot depends on the archive's financial resources and available manpower. The other thing to consider is the Euro-Dollar exchange rate, which is not in our favor at this time. User fees for those visiting the archives run around 10 Euros per day; copies vary from 50 Eurocents to 7 Euros, depending on the archive. Professional researchers charge 35-45 Euros per hour on the average, plus travel time and -costs, and the cost of copies. Baerbel NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

    04/01/2011 02:29:56
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Postcards
    2. Ursula
    3. Hello Joe, You can buy the postcards on ebay. Some are 99 cents others as much as $15 dollars, depending on the rarity. Go to ebay.com and then under categories click on: Collectibles, then Postcards, then International Postcards, then Germany. For US postcards click on Collectibles, then Postcards, then US, then pick a US state. Good luck, I hope you find what you're looking for. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Walter" <poew@verizon.net> To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:55:31 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Postcards Where can you purchase historical postcards? Joe W. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/31/2011 06:45:45
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Postcards
    2. Phil Kuehn
    3. We have found what we got from Antique stores over several states.Almost never see Europe to US cards. Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Walter" <poew@verizon.net> To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:55:31 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Postcards Where can you purchase historical postcards? Joe W. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/31/2011 05:44:58
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Postcards
    2. Bobbi
    3. There are "card" shows. I know there is one in East Northport, and another one in Allentown, PA each year. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter, Joseph" To: <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: 31 March, 2011 6:55 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Postcards > Where can you purchase historical postcards? > > Joe W.

    03/31/2011 03:25:11