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    1. Re: [G-P-L] "commonality of names" EWERT
    2. juliasgenes
    3. Never mind - according to Wikipedia, there was coal mining there: "In 1867 Russian authorities formed the Oblast (province) of Piotrków, which included within Łódź, Częstochowa, and the coal fields of Dąbrowa Górnicza and Sosnowiec." I never heard about Russians controlling things - I just know that my aunts were adamant that of course my GM was German because my GF would NEVER have married a Pole. Meanwhile, I have some slight evidence that her name might have been something like OBAROWSKY. That doesn't sound German to me, but of course, I'm no expert. --- On Mon, 4/4/11, juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> wrote: ...Would you happen to know if mining was an industry there, at least in the 1890s? That's the occupation given for my GF on his passenger manifest...

    04/04/2011 06:56:27
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "commonality of names" EWERT
    2. juliasgenes
    3. Thanks for the town clarification, though I have gotten quite fond of thinking of the place as "Pertrikan". Would you happen to know if mining was an industry there, at least in the 1890s? That's the occupation given for my GF on his passenger manifest. I shall now try to find Pertrikau on a map... .^_^. --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: ...name of the ton is Petrikau, today in the center of Poland. Today:Piotrków Trybunalski... Brigitte

    04/04/2011 06:37:18
    1. Re: [G-P-L] common surname
    2. Baerbel Johnson
    3. I must have missed the earlier discussion; sorry about that. Even if he isn't listed there- which is to be expected since the rate of"legal emigration" is less than 50%, she can do area searches in and around the towns listed there. Before doing that she may want to check around the town and county where the emigrant settled for other Schroths who may be related. Baerbel This has been discussed in March 2010 after Ann had already checked with the archives. Gottfried Schroth is not listed in their card file. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Baerbel Johnson" <JohnsonBx@familysearch.org> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, April 4, 2011 9:43:51 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] common surname The first place to check for an emigrant from Hessen-Darmstadt is the list of emigrants found in HADIS, the archive inventory search tool of the Hessian state archives. The list is titled "Auswanderer-Nachweise [emigrant documentation]. Here we find 25 Schroth entries with their towns of origin: NACHWEIS Schroth, Georg, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1824-05 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1824 NACHWEIS Schroth, Heinrich, Herkunft: Mittel-Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1825-02 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1825 NACHWEIS Schroth, Henrich junior, Herkunft: Mittel Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1825 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien (?), Bauer. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Ernst Wagner; Archiv, S. 21 1825 NACHWEIS Schroth, Heinrich, Herkunft: Mittel-Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1831-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1831 NACHWEIS Werkmann, Philipp, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: nur Witwe mit Familie des Schwiegersohnes Jacob Wilhelm Schroth. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Peter, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 1 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Jacob Wilhelm, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Ehepartner: NN. geb.Werkmann. - Bemerkungen: mit Familie und Schwiegermutter Wwe.Philipp Werkmann. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Johann, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 35 J., Schlosser. - Ehepartner: Anna Maria geb. Roeder, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Johann, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 8 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Katharina, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 9 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Brüdern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Anna Maria geb. Roeder, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 31 J.. - Ehepartner: Johann Schroth, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Conrad, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 5 1/2 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Pfungstadt. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1845 / Ziel: Ostpreußen, Rothfließ bei Bischofsburg. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Ernst Wagner; Auszugsblatt 243 1845 NACHWEIS Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: ledig, mit einem weiteren ledigen Philipp Schroth ausgewandert. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: ledig, mit einem weiteren ledigen Philipp Schroth ausgewandert. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Philipp Adam, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Conrad, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Famile. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Michael, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Famile. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Christian, Herkunft: Langen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1851-07 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1851 NACHWEIS Schroth, Michael, Herkunft: Dietzenbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1852-08 / Ziel: Amerika, USA, 7 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller NACHWEIS Schroth, Daniel Wwe., Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1854-10 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Ehepartner: Daniel Schroth (+). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1854 NACHWEIS Schroth, Nicolaus, Herkunft: Unter-Schönmattenwag. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1885 / Ziel: Amerika (Nord). - Alter/geb.: zwischen 17 und 24 Jahren. Quelle: G 15 Bergstraße Nr. 284 1885 NACHWEIS Schroth, Victoria, verehel. Bretsch, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1897 / Ziel: USA, Mullet Creek, Jeff. Co., N.Y.. - Alter/geb.: + 1897, 87 Jahre. Quelle: HFV-Kartei 1897 NACHWEIS Bretsch, Victoria, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1897 / Ziel: USA, Mullet Creek, Jeff. Co., NY. - Alter/geb.: + 1897, 87 Jahre, Eltern: (NN), Schroth. - Ehepartner: (NN), B.. Quelle: HFV - Kartei 1897 NACHWEIS Schroth, Eva Anna, Herkunft: Dieburg. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1905 / Ziel: Amerika. - Ehepartner: Johann Stockenreiter. Quelle: G 28 Groß-Umstadt, G Nr.2 1905 Each entry begins after the word "Nachweis" with the emigrant's name, town of origin, date of emigrationdestination, other information, such as spouse, children, birth dates, death date etc, and the source. The town of origin is listed after the word "Herkunft". Since less than 50% of the emigrants filed papers to emigrate legally, it is best to check all the towns mentioned in this list for your ancestor, if he/she isn't listed here. For instance, you see several emigrants each from Egelsbach, Gross-Zimmern, and Westhofen. So now you can order the microfilms of the respective parish registers to an LDS family history center in your area and check the records for your ancestral family. Good luck! Baerbel -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Johnson Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 5:22 AM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] common surname Could anyone help me with the surname Schroth? My g-grandfather’s Declaration of Intent states he was from Hesse-Darmstadt. This document is dated July 14,1851 as the arrival date out of the port of Bremen. I have examined the telephone directories for the distribution of the surname, which is quite large. I have no information about the area in Hesse-Darmstadt that he may have come from. Can anyone give me some pointers about: where to begin asking questions; how to find a lead about his town of origin? I have also searched for ships records, but have not turned up anything. Many thanks in advance. 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    04/04/2011 04:34:05
    1. Re: [G-P-L] common surname
    2. Baerbel Johnson
    3. Hi Patricia, That really depends on what you know about your ancestor. When did your ancestor come to the United States? Where did he settle? Have you found him in any census records? Do you know a town or region in Germany? The tool I mentioned earlier is an index specific to the Hessen region, particularly the former Grand Duchy of Hessen. Perhaps you can share the details about your ancestor with us. Baerbel After reading your response......I am wondering what I am missing when in my search for my GRUSS family departure records.....being new to genealogy search.....I have been looking for the Amerincan spelling and so forth.....what would I do to really do a search... Patricia in Louisiana ________________________________ From: Baerbel Johnson <JohnsonBx@familysearch.org> To: "germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com" <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 8:43:51 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] common surname The first place to check for an emigrant from Hessen-Darmstadt is the list of emigrants found in HADIS, the archive inventory search tool of the Hessian state archives. The list is titled "Auswanderer-Nachweise [emigrant documentation]. Here we find 25 Schroth entries with their towns of origin: NACHWEIS    Schroth, Georg, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1824-05 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1824    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Heinrich, Herkunft: Mittel-Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1825-02 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1825    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Henrich junior, Herkunft: Mittel Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1825 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien (?), Bauer. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Ernst Wagner; Archiv, S. 21    1825    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Heinrich, Herkunft: Mittel-Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1831-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1831    NACHWEIS    Werkmann, Philipp, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: nur Witwe mit Familie des Schwiegersohnes Jacob Wilhelm Schroth. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Peter, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 1 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Jacob Wilhelm, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Ehepartner: NN. geb.Werkmann. - Bemerkungen: mit Familie und Schwiegermutter Wwe.Philipp Werkmann. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Johann, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 35 J., Schlosser. - Ehepartner: Anna Maria geb. Roeder, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Johann, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 8 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Katharina, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 9 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Brüdern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Anna Maria geb. Roeder, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 31 J.. - Ehepartner: Johann Schroth, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Conrad, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 5 1/2 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Pfungstadt. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1845 / Ziel: Ostpreußen, Rothfließ bei Bischofsburg. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Ernst Wagner; Auszugsblatt 243    1845    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: ledig, mit einem weiteren ledigen Philipp Schroth ausgewandert. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: ledig, mit einem weiteren ledigen Philipp Schroth ausgewandert. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Philipp Adam, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Conrad, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Famile. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Michael, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Famile. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Christian, Herkunft: Langen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1851-07 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1851    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Michael, Herkunft: Dietzenbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1852-08 / Ziel: Amerika, USA, 7 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller NACHWEIS    Schroth, Daniel Wwe., Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1854-10 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Ehepartner: Daniel Schroth (+). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1854    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Nicolaus, Herkunft: Unter-Schönmattenwag. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1885 / Ziel: Amerika (Nord). - Alter/geb.: zwischen 17 und 24 Jahren. Quelle: G 15 Bergstraße Nr. 284    1885    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Victoria, verehel. Bretsch, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1897 / Ziel: USA, Mullet Creek, Jeff. Co., N.Y.. - Alter/geb.: + 1897, 87 Jahre. Quelle: HFV-Kartei    1897    NACHWEIS    Bretsch, Victoria, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1897 / Ziel: USA, Mullet Creek, Jeff. Co., NY. - Alter/geb.: + 1897, 87 Jahre, Eltern: (NN), Schroth. - Ehepartner: (NN), B.. Quelle: HFV - Kartei    1897    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Eva Anna, Herkunft: Dieburg. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1905 / Ziel: Amerika. - Ehepartner: Johann Stockenreiter. Quelle: G 28 Groß-Umstadt, G Nr.2    1905    Each entry begins after the word "Nachweis" with the emigrant's name, town of origin, date of emigrationdestination, other information, such as spouse, children, birth dates, death date etc, and the source. The town of origin is listed after the word "Herkunft". Since less than 50% of the emigrants filed papers to emigrate legally, it is best to check all the towns mentioned in this list for your ancestor, if he/she isn't listed here. For instance, you see several emigrants each from Egelsbach, Gross-Zimmern, and Westhofen. So now you can order the microfilms of the respective parish registers to an LDS family history center in your area and check the records for your ancestral family. Good luck! Baerbel  -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Johnson Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 5:22 AM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] common surname Could anyone help me with the surname Schroth?  My g-grandfather’s Declaration of Intent states he was from Hesse-Darmstadt.  This document is dated July 14,1851 as the arrival date out of the port of Bremen.  I have examined the telephone directories for the distribution of the surname, which is quite large.  I have no information about the area in Hesse-Darmstadt that he may have come from.  Can anyone give me some pointers about:  where to begin asking questions; how to find a lead about his town of origin?  I have also searched for ships records, but have not turned up anything.  Many thanks in advance. 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    04/04/2011 04:30:08
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "commonality of names" EWERT
    2. Brigitte Jahnke
    3. Hi, the name of the ton is Petrikau, today in the center of Poland. Today:Piotrków Trybunalski. That part of Poland was Prussian in the late 18th Century, than Polish, and Russian. There lived lot's of people of German origin. Good luck! Brigitte Am 04.04.2011 05:53, schrieb juliasgenes: > Thanks for the information. It's interesting to me, anyway! > > Once they got to Cleveland, some of the EWERT brothers became EVERT and my GF became EVERETT (don't know what he did about his accent, though!). > > Thanks for the query, but I know nothing of EWERTs beyond my GF and his siblings in Cleveland. Perhaps, way back in Europe, they connect somehow. > > I'll upload two images onto the message board of the Americanized version of the EWERT's town. It looks like "Petrikan" to me, but I've been told that there's no such place. Maybe it'll remind list members of something when they see it. > > Thanks. > > > --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Brigitte Jahnke<brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: > > ...comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area...big chance that your Ewert originate from Mecklenburg or Pommern... > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/04/2011 04:05:20
    1. Re: [G-P-L] question about Selisia
    2. Brigitte Jahnke
    3. Sorry, Schlesien in English Silesia as well as Poland never were a Russian Province. From here you can get some good info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesia_%28disambiguation%29 As you can see Silesia has been and is split up in several parts. From time to time the frontiers changed, because of a new splitting. So if you don't have any hint about where to search it might become a rather difficult research. Brigitte Am 04.04.2011 00:39, schrieb Phil Kuehn: > > Silesia became a German State.It borders the East of Ge rmany& its Eastern most Border is Poland& Checloslovakia(can't spell it),Poland on the North& East. > > Good luck > > Phil >

    04/04/2011 02:15:18
    1. Re: [G-P-L] common surname
    2. Baerbel Johnson
    3. The first place to check for an emigrant from Hessen-Darmstadt is the list of emigrants found in HADIS, the archive inventory search tool of the Hessian state archives. The list is titled "Auswanderer-Nachweise [emigrant documentation]. Here we find 25 Schroth entries with their towns of origin: NACHWEIS Schroth, Georg, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1824-05 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1824 NACHWEIS Schroth, Heinrich, Herkunft: Mittel-Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1825-02 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1825 NACHWEIS Schroth, Henrich junior, Herkunft: Mittel Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1825 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien (?), Bauer. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Ernst Wagner; Archiv, S. 21 1825 NACHWEIS Schroth, Heinrich, Herkunft: Mittel-Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1831-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1831 NACHWEIS Werkmann, Philipp, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: nur Witwe mit Familie des Schwiegersohnes Jacob Wilhelm Schroth. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Peter, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 1 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Jacob Wilhelm, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Ehepartner: NN. geb.Werkmann. - Bemerkungen: mit Familie und Schwiegermutter Wwe.Philipp Werkmann. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Johann, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 35 J., Schlosser. - Ehepartner: Anna Maria geb. Roeder, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Johann, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 8 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Katharina, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 9 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Brüdern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Anna Maria geb. Roeder, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 31 J.. - Ehepartner: Johann Schroth, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Conrad, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 5 1/2 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1838 NACHWEIS Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Pfungstadt. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1845 / Ziel: Ostpreußen, Rothfließ bei Bischofsburg. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Ernst Wagner; Auszugsblatt 243 1845 NACHWEIS Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: ledig, mit einem weiteren ledigen Philipp Schroth ausgewandert. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: ledig, mit einem weiteren ledigen Philipp Schroth ausgewandert. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Philipp Adam, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Conrad, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Famile. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Michael, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Famile. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1846 NACHWEIS Schroth, Christian, Herkunft: Langen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1851-07 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1851 NACHWEIS Schroth, Michael, Herkunft: Dietzenbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1852-08 / Ziel: Amerika, USA, 7 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller NACHWEIS Schroth, Daniel Wwe., Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1854-10 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Ehepartner: Daniel Schroth (+). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1854 NACHWEIS Schroth, Nicolaus, Herkunft: Unter-Schönmattenwag. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1885 / Ziel: Amerika (Nord). - Alter/geb.: zwischen 17 und 24 Jahren. Quelle: G 15 Bergstraße Nr. 284 1885 NACHWEIS Schroth, Victoria, verehel. Bretsch, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1897 / Ziel: USA, Mullet Creek, Jeff. Co., N.Y.. - Alter/geb.: + 1897, 87 Jahre. Quelle: HFV-Kartei 1897 NACHWEIS Bretsch, Victoria, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1897 / Ziel: USA, Mullet Creek, Jeff. Co., NY. - Alter/geb.: + 1897, 87 Jahre, Eltern: (NN), Schroth. - Ehepartner: (NN), B.. Quelle: HFV - Kartei 1897 NACHWEIS Schroth, Eva Anna, Herkunft: Dieburg. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1905 / Ziel: Amerika. - Ehepartner: Johann Stockenreiter. Quelle: G 28 Groß-Umstadt, G Nr.2 1905 Each entry begins after the word "Nachweis" with the emigrant's name, town of origin, date of emigrationdestination, other information, such as spouse, children, birth dates, death date etc, and the source. The town of origin is listed after the word "Herkunft". Since less than 50% of the emigrants filed papers to emigrate legally, it is best to check all the towns mentioned in this list for your ancestor, if he/she isn't listed here. For instance, you see several emigrants each from Egelsbach, Gross-Zimmern, and Westhofen. So now you can order the microfilms of the respective parish registers to an LDS family history center in your area and check the records for your ancestral family. Good luck! Baerbel -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Johnson Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 5:22 AM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] common surname Could anyone help me with the surname Schroth? My g-grandfather’s Declaration of Intent states he was from Hesse-Darmstadt. This document is dated July 14,1851 as the arrival date out of the port of Bremen. I have examined the telephone directories for the distribution of the surname, which is quite large. I have no information about the area in Hesse-Darmstadt that he may have come from. Can anyone give me some pointers about: where to begin asking questions; how to find a lead about his town of origin? I have also searched for ships records, but have not turned up anything. Many thanks in advance. 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    04/04/2011 01:43:51
    1. [G-P-L] common surname
    2. Ann Johnson
    3. Could anyone help me with the surname Schroth? My g-grandfather’s Declaration of Intent states he was from Hesse-Darmstadt. This document is dated July 14,1851 as the arrival date out of the port of Bremen. I have examined the telephone directories for the distribution of the surname, which is quite large. I have no information about the area in Hesse-Darmstadt that he may have come from. Can anyone give me some pointers about: where to begin asking questions; how to find a lead about his town of origin? I have also searched for ships records, but have not turned up anything. Many thanks in advance. Ann in NC

    04/04/2011 01:21:40
    1. Re: [G-P-L] common surname
    2. pat fa-kouri
    3. Hello Baerbel: After reading your response......I am wondering what I am missing when in my search for my GRUSS family departure records.....being new to genealogy search.....I have been looking for the Amerincan spelling and so forth.....what would I do to really do a search... Patricia in Louisiana ________________________________ From: Baerbel Johnson <JohnsonBx@familysearch.org> To: "germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com" <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 8:43:51 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] common surname The first place to check for an emigrant from Hessen-Darmstadt is the list of emigrants found in HADIS, the archive inventory search tool of the Hessian state archives. The list is titled "Auswanderer-Nachweise [emigrant documentation]. Here we find 25 Schroth entries with their towns of origin: NACHWEIS    Schroth, Georg, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1824-05 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1824    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Heinrich, Herkunft: Mittel-Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1825-02 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1825    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Henrich junior, Herkunft: Mittel Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1825 / Ziel: Amerika, Brasilien (?), Bauer. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Ernst Wagner; Archiv, S. 21    1825    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Heinrich, Herkunft: Mittel-Gründau. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1831-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1831    NACHWEIS    Werkmann, Philipp, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: nur Witwe mit Familie des Schwiegersohnes Jacob Wilhelm Schroth. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Peter, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 1 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Jacob Wilhelm, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Ehepartner: NN. geb.Werkmann. - Bemerkungen: mit Familie und Schwiegermutter Wwe.Philipp Werkmann. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Johann, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 35 J., Schlosser. - Ehepartner: Anna Maria geb. Roeder, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Johann, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 8 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Katharina, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 9 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Brüdern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Anna Maria geb. Roeder, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 31 J.. - Ehepartner: Johann Schroth, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Conrad, Herkunft: Westhofen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1838-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 5 1/2 J., Eltern: Johann Schroth und Anna Maria geb. Roeder. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1838    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Pfungstadt. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1845 / Ziel: Ostpreußen, Rothfließ bei Bischofsburg. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Ernst Wagner; Auszugsblatt 243    1845    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: ledig, mit einem weiteren ledigen Philipp Schroth ausgewandert. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Philipp, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: ledig, mit einem weiteren ledigen Philipp Schroth ausgewandert. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Philipp Adam, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-03 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Conrad, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Famile. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Michael, Herkunft: Groß-Zimmern. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1846-04 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Famile. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1846    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Christian, Herkunft: Langen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1851-07 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1851    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Michael, Herkunft: Dietzenbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1852-08 / Ziel: Amerika, USA, 7 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller NACHWEIS    Schroth, Daniel Wwe., Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1854-10 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Ehepartner: Daniel Schroth (+). - Bemerkungen: mit Familie. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller    1854    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Nicolaus, Herkunft: Unter-Schönmattenwag. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1885 / Ziel: Amerika (Nord). - Alter/geb.: zwischen 17 und 24 Jahren. Quelle: G 15 Bergstraße Nr. 284    1885    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Victoria, verehel. Bretsch, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1897 / Ziel: USA, Mullet Creek, Jeff. Co., N.Y.. - Alter/geb.: + 1897, 87 Jahre. Quelle: HFV-Kartei    1897    NACHWEIS    Bretsch, Victoria, Herkunft: Egelsbach. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1897 / Ziel: USA, Mullet Creek, Jeff. Co., NY. - Alter/geb.: + 1897, 87 Jahre, Eltern: (NN), Schroth. - Ehepartner: (NN), B.. Quelle: HFV - Kartei    1897    NACHWEIS    Schroth, Eva Anna, Herkunft: Dieburg. - Auswanderungsdatum: vor 1905 / Ziel: Amerika. - Ehepartner: Johann Stockenreiter. Quelle: G 28 Groß-Umstadt, G Nr.2    1905    Each entry begins after the word "Nachweis" with the emigrant's name, town of origin, date of emigrationdestination, other information, such as spouse, children, birth dates, death date etc, and the source. The town of origin is listed after the word "Herkunft". Since less than 50% of the emigrants filed papers to emigrate legally, it is best to check all the towns mentioned in this list for your ancestor, if he/she isn't listed here. For instance, you see several emigrants each from Egelsbach, Gross-Zimmern, and Westhofen. So now you can order the microfilms of the respective parish registers to an LDS family history center in your area and check the records for your ancestral family. Good luck! Baerbel  -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Johnson Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 5:22 AM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] common surname Could anyone help me with the surname Schroth?  My g-grandfather’s Declaration of Intent states he was from Hesse-Darmstadt.  This document is dated July 14,1851 as the arrival date out of the port of Bremen.  I have examined the telephone directories for the distribution of the surname, which is quite large.  I have no information about the area in Hesse-Darmstadt that he may have come from.  Can anyone give me some pointers about:  where to begin asking questions; how to find a lead about his town of origin?  I have also searched for ships records, but have not turned up anything.  Many thanks in advance. Ann in NC For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. 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    04/04/2011 12:52:49
    1. [G-P-L] Vintage Postcards
    2. Ursula
    3. Hello Michael, The problem is 'sooner or later' is not going to help as the bidding for the postcard on ebay expires in a couple of days. I've already checked the 'family trees' but there is no one that matches. Also, if I were to post it somewhere online on the off chance someone would be interested in it a week or month from now, I would have to disappoint them as I wouldn't know who bought the card. Cheers, Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Ewing" <mike.ewing@gmail.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2011 4:39:43 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Vintage Postcards ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time.

    04/03/2011 11:54:41
    1. Re: [G-P-L] common surname
    2. rwe
    3. I like this site. It also gives you variations on the surname as well. http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/Default.aspx --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Ann Johnson <regjohnson@nc.rr.com> wrote: From: Ann Johnson <regjohnson@nc.rr.com> Subject: [G-P-L] common surname To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 6:21 AM Could anyone help me with the surname Schroth?  My g-grandfather’s Declaration of Intent states he was from Hesse-Darmstadt.  This document is dated July 14,1851 as the arrival date out of the port of Bremen.  I have examined the telephone directories for the distribution of the surname, which is quite large.  I have no information about the area in Hesse-Darmstadt that he may have come from.  Can anyone give me some pointers about:  where to begin asking questions; how to find a lead about his town of origin?  I have also searched for ships records, but have not turned up anything.  Many thanks in advance. Ann in NC For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/03/2011 10:29:54
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Vintage Postcards
    2. Bobbi
    3. Hi Ursula, You could post it to a Bulletin Board or Mailing List. If you scan the item, you could always send copies to "late comers." Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula" To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: 04 April, 2011 1:54 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Vintage Postcards > Hello Michael, > > The problem is 'sooner or later' is not going to help as the bidding for > the postcard on ebay expires in a couple of days. > I've already checked the 'family trees' but there is no one that matches. > Also, if I were to post it somewhere online on the off chance someone > would be interested in it a week or month from now, I would have to > disappoint them as I wouldn't know who bought the card. > > Cheers, > > Ursula

    04/03/2011 08:27:38
    1. Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 71
    2. Bobbi
    3. Being from the German-Polish border, I think it would be more likely to have left from Hamburg. Those records are available online at Ancestry. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: dskinsey To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: 04 April, 2011 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 71 >I think that part of the city that straddles the border between > Germany and Poland (called Goerlitz on the Germany side) is in > Silesia. > By the way, the emigration records for 1871 in Bremen, where he likely > sailed, ...

    04/03/2011 07:41:52
    1. Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 71
    2. I think that part of the city that straddles the border between Germany and Poland (called Goerlitz on the Germany side) is in Silesia. I've been looking for a long time for my great-grandfather, Ernst Wilhelm Sonntag, born about 1840, whose obit said he was from Goerlitz, Prussia (immigrated to Texas in 1871). I'm wondering if I should be checking Polish records. Not knowing a thing about the language, it would be very hard to do. Any suggestions? By the way, the emigration records for 1871 in Bremen, where he likely sailed, were destroyed in WW II, and the immigration records into Galveston, Texas, where he landed, were destroyed in the Great Hurricane of 1900, so as far as I've been able to tell there are no extant records on either end. My best hope would be baptismal and confirmation records in Germany or Poland. Any addresses to which I can write? Dolores Kinsey Dolores Kinsey Quoting germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: question about Selisia (Phil Kuehn) > 2. Re: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70 > (Carol Rawert Trainer) > 3. Re: "commonality of names" EWERT (juliasgenes) > 4. Re: "commonality of names" EWERT (juliasgenes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:39:08 +0000 (UTC) > From: Phil Kuehn <pkuehn38@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] question about Selisia > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <494620750.3332154.1301870348644.JavaMail.root@sz0159a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > > Silesia became a German State.It borders the East of Ge rmany & its > Eastern most Border is Poland & Checloslovakia(can't spell > it),Poland on the North & East. > > Prussia took it over. ?then after WWll the portioning by > Roosevelt,Stalin,Churchhill,etc, gave it all back to Poland where it > became a province of USSR until Paristroika,etc. > > In brief it should be clear as mud,but, you can find out about it w/ Google . > > > Hope this gets you started. > > Good luck > > Phil > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Wiersema" <judybevans@att.net> > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2011 5:17:54 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] question about Selisia > > Could anyone tell me about the country Selisia, I have been > searching for years > for my ggrands, and now I find out I have been researching in the wrong place > and they probably came from Selisia, I was visiting the Allen County > Library and > a kind young man from Belgium who was sitting by me, informed me that I was > looking in the wrong place, and to look at Silesia.? I have never heard of > Silesia.? Their surname I believe was spelled originally as Czechowicz, as I > have seen other names like that, but not the spelling they used in > America.? In > Silesia there is a province named Katovicz, and Cossel, could they have used > that for their names when they came here or how did it work on the passenger > list. I just heard of the country lately.? Both ggrands said they came from > Prussia, born in 1860. He I think from what family has said was > Kolm, they came > to America in 1887, her name was Amelia Kosel, or Kozal.? There is a town in > Silesia of Cosel.? I just cant find them anywher.??He spelled their last name > when they came to America as Karl Cekafetz, sounds like Chic a fetz.? Any Any > Any help would be tremendously appreciated,? They lived in Taylorville, and > Decatur IL?all of their lives.? My ggrandmother said she was sorry > she ever let > him over the border, so I think she was German and he was > Polish?????? I am at a > loss, but always depended on each other until they died, even tho married to > someone else. > > Thank you for any help to guide me in the right direction.? I have?seen a few > books but not events for during the years 1800 to 1900, it was all after 1944 > they anyone mentions Silesia > > > ________________________________ > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:43:57 -0400 > From: "Carol Rawert Trainer" <CRawertTrainer@insightbb.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70 > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1880CFBD164045A9B34FB1486F616BF8@CAROL> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Names are tricky. My GG's name was Anna Margaretha Heitkemper (& other > spellings) in the US. When they cam e to Louisville, Kentucky they used > their Plattdeutsch name. But in Heek/Ahle in Westfalen where they came from > the Hochdeutsch name is used: Effkemann. If an Effkemann relative had not > written to a relative here in the US 15 years ago I would never have found > them. Who knew Heitkemper (Heidkamp, Keitkamper, Heitkaemper, etc.) equals > Effkemann. Interesting! Check both Low and High Dutch names. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:35 PM > Subject: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70 > > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (juliasgenes) >> 2. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Brigitte Jahnke) >> 3. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Brigitte Jahnke) >> 4. Re: Vintage Postcards (Michael Ewing) >> 5. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Jeanne Freeman) >> 6. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Brigitte Jahnke) >> 7. question about Selisia (Judy Wiersema) >> 8. Re: "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" (Jeanne Freeman) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:45:02 -0700 (PDT) >> From: juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <506428.64396.qm@web110003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Greetings, Brigette ~ >> >> I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US >> that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that >> common. >> >> For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the >> arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a >> fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where >> the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) >> >> (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married >> sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family >> that I know of so far.) >> >> Thank you! >> >> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: >> Klein is a very very very common name in Germany, the 15th frequent of >> all the names in our country... >> >> Brigitte >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:28:18 +0200 >> From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <4D98D862.20700@brigittejahnke.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Hello Julia, >> >> the most easiest: the name Evert comes from an old German given: Eberhard. >> Short forms in Germany are: Evert, Everd, Everdt, Ewert, Ewerd, Ewerdt, >> Eberd, Eberdt. >> >> It's always pronounced in the same was, although its written in a >> different way. >> >> Most comon surnames are today: >> >> Evert: most people live in North-Eastern Germany, also in the Hannover >> area, almost none in Southern Germany >> Ewerd: all over Germany, very few in Bavaria, rather huge concentration >> in Pommern and the eastern parts of Mecklenburg. >> Ewert: comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area, most parts of Germany >> few families of this name >> Ebert: most frequent of these names, in all German areas, most in the >> Rhein-Hessen, Franken, Hohenlohe, and Rhein-Neckar area. >> >> >> As far as I know there is a big chance that your Ewert originate from >> Mecklenburg or Pommern. In Germany it's a normal surname, nothing >> exciting and nothing rare. >> Even had a Ewert classmate at primary school, don't know where she is >> today. >> >> There is also a request, unfortunately Terri didn't give her address: >> >> Terri schrieb am 29.04.2010: >> >> /Looking for Ewerts may have come from Karlsdorf. My Grandpa is Frank >> born 22-3-1880. Came to South and North Dakota. Paper trail in USA is >> non existent. Franks parents were Frank and Julianna (Mielke)Ewert. Also >> went by Ebert and Evertt. Heard they were from a villiage near Frankfort >> or Berlin. Can anyone help. / >> >> >> Brigitte >> >> Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: >>> Greetings, Brigette ~ >>> >>> I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US >>> that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that >>> common. >>> >>> For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the >>> arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a >>> fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where >>> the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) >>> >>> (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married >>> sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family >>> that I know of so far.) >>> >>> Thank you! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:35:14 +0200 >> From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <4D98DA02.3060408@brigittejahnke.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Sorry, >> >> of course Eberd, Eberst is not pronounced like Evert, Ewert, etc..... >> >> Brigitte >> >> Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: >>> Greetings, Brigette ~ >>> >>> I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US >>> that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that >>> common. >>> >>> For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the >>> arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a >>> fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where >>> the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) >>> >>> (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married >>> sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family >>> that I know of so far.) >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Brigitte Jahnke<brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: >>> Klein is a very very very common name in Germany, the 15th frequent of >>> all the names in our country... >>> >>> Brigitte >>> >>> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >>> http://www.germanyroots.com >>> >>> Please visit and participate in our new forum >>> http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 13:39:43 -0700 >> From: Michael Ewing <mike.ewing@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Vintage Postcards >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <BANLkTinHi3YyOhKYM2cwNnjGsmcyOnhdaQ@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Ursula, >> >> Why not just post the contents of this postcard on the >> rootsweb/ancestry.comsurname page for Ramm if there is one? Someone >> will come looking sooner or >> later for this guy. >> >> Cheers, >> Mike >> >> >>> I found Mr. Charles Ramm and his wife Therese on the 1920 census in >>> Davenport, Iowa. He said he immigrated in 1906. The postcard was mailed >>> from >>> Mittweida, Germany on 14 NOV 1906 and arrived in Davenport on 20 NOV >>> 1906. >>> His friend writes: "How are things going with you? Did you arrive OK? >>> Were >>> you not seasick?" >>> >>> Oh how I wish I could inform some descendant of Charles Ramm of this >>> postcard! >>> >>> Ursula >>> ____________________________________________________ >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 16:52:11 -0400 >> From: Jeanne Freeman <jeafreeman@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <8CDC058236F3230-1CC4-14838@webmail-d041.sysops.aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> Hello, >> >> I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. Perhaps >> you could help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John (probably >> Johann) Dauwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't seem that >> common of a German name. Perhaps it was originally from The Netherlands? >> I would love to know more about the name Dauwe. >> >> Jeanne in Phoenix >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 1:28 pm >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" >> >> >> Hello Julia, >> the most easiest: the name Evert comes from an old German given: Eberhard. >> hort forms in Germany are: Evert, Everd, Everdt, Ewert, Ewerd, Ewerdt, >> berd, Eberdt. >> It's always pronounced in the same was, although its written in a >> ifferent way. >> Most comon surnames are today: >> Evert: most people live in North-Eastern Germany, also in the Hannover >> rea, almost none in Southern Germany >> werd: all over Germany, very few in Bavaria, rather huge concentration >> n Pommern and the eastern parts of Mecklenburg. >> wert: comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area, most parts of Germany >> ew families of this name >> bert: most frequent of these names, in all German areas, most in the >> hein-Hessen, Franken, Hohenlohe, and Rhein-Neckar area. >> >> s far as I know there is a big chance that your Ewert originate from >> ecklenburg or Pommern. In Germany it's a normal surname, nothing >> xciting and nothing rare. >> ven had a Ewert classmate at primary school, don't know where she is >> today. >> There is also a request, unfortunately Terri didn't give her address: >> Terri schrieb am 29.04.2010: >> /Looking for Ewerts may have come from Karlsdorf. My Grandpa is Frank >> orn 22-3-1880. Came to South and North Dakota. Paper trail in USA is >> on existent. Franks parents were Frank and Julianna (Mielke)Ewert. Also >> ent by Ebert and Evertt. Heard they were from a villiage near Frankfort >> r Berlin. Can anyone help. / >> >> rigitte >> Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: >> Greetings, Brigette ~ >> >> I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US >> that >> t's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that >> common. >> >> For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the >> arrival >> f my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a fairly >> common >> ame, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where the name refers >> to a >> trong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) >> >> (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married >> isters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family >> that I >> now of so far.) >> >> Thank you! >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >> http://www.germanyroots.com >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------ >> o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of >> he message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:13:46 +0200 >> From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <4D98E30A.6040005@brigittejahnke.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Hello Jeanne, >> >> rather easy to answer. >> >> There is a couple of Dauwe in the Bentheim and Osnabr?ck area. >> But the origin of all Dauwe is a farm ab. 8 miles from my home in the >> Tecklenburg, Westfalen area. >> >> Brigitte >> >> Am 03.04.2011 22:52, schrieb Jeanne Freeman: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. >>> Perhaps you could help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John >>> (probably Johann) Dauwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't >>> seem that common of a German name. Perhaps it was originally from The >>> Netherlands? I would love to know more about the name Dauwe. >>> >>> Jeanne in Phoenix >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 14:17:54 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Judy Wiersema <judybevans@att.net> >> Subject: [G-P-L] question about Selisia >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <782714.56327.qm@web180610.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >> >> Could anyone tell me about the country Selisia, I have been searching for >> years >> for my ggrands, and now I find out I have been researching in the wrong >> place >> and they probably came from Selisia, I was visiting the Allen County >> Library and >> a kind young man from Belgium who was sitting by me, informed me that I >> was >> looking in the wrong place, and to look at Silesia.? I have never heard of >> Silesia.? Their surname I believe was spelled originally as Czechowicz, as >> I >> have seen other names like that, but not the spelling they used in >> America.? In >> Silesia there is a province named Katovicz, and Cossel, could they have >> used >> that for their names when they came here or how did it work on the >> passenger >> list. I just heard of the country lately.? Both ggrands said they came >> from >> Prussia, born in 1860. He I think from what family has said was Kolm, they >> came >> to America in 1887, her name was Amelia Kosel, or Kozal.? There is a town >> in >> Silesia of Cosel.? I just cant find them anywher.??He spelled their last >> name >> when they came to America as Karl Cekafetz, sounds like Chic a fetz.? Any >> Any >> Any help would be tremendously appreciated,? They lived in Taylorville, >> and >> Decatur IL?all of their lives.? My ggrandmother said she was sorry she >> ever let >> him over the border, so I think she was German and he was Polish?????? I >> am at a >> loss, but always depended on each other until they died, even tho married >> to >> someone else. >> >> Thank you for any help to guide me in the right direction.? I have?seen a >> few >> books but not events for during the years 1800 to 1900, it was all after >> 1944 >> they anyone mentions Silesia >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:35:32 -0400 >> From: Jeanne Freeman <jeafreeman@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <8CDC05E31A07FF9-1490-A73E@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> Hello Brigitte, >> >> Thank you so much for your quick response. That is a wonderful surprise. >> I have no proof, but I have thought the Dauwe's may have come from >> Osnabruck or a village named Lingerich. I'm so interested about the >> origin of Dauwe farm. Is one still there? >> >> Jeanne >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 2:13 pm >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names" >> >> >> Hello Jeanne, >> rather easy to answer. >> There is a couple of Dauwe in the Bentheim and Osnabr?ck area. >> ut the origin of all Dauwe is a farm ab. 8 miles from my home in the >> ecklenburg, Westfalen area. >> Brigitte >> Am 03.04.2011 22:52, schrieb Jeanne Freeman: >> Hello, >> >> I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. Perhaps >> you >> ould help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John (probably Johann) >> auwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't seem that common of >> a >> erman name. Perhaps it was originally from The Netherlands? I would love >> to >> now more about the name Dauwe. >> >> Jeanne in Phoenix >> >> >> >> >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >> http://www.germanyroots.com >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------ >> o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of >> he message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS list administrator, send an email >> to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS mailing list, send an >> email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 70 >> ****************************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:53:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "commonality of names" EWERT > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <740727.82211.qm@web110002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks for the information. It's interesting to me, anyway! > > Once they got to Cleveland, some of the EWERT brothers became EVERT > and my GF became EVERETT (don't know what he did about his accent, > though!). > > Thanks for the query, but I know nothing of EWERTs beyond my GF and > his siblings in Cleveland. Perhaps, way back in Europe, they connect > somehow. > > I'll upload two images onto the message board of the Americanized > version of the EWERT's town. It looks like "Petrikan" to me, but > I've been told that there's no such place. Maybe it'll remind list > members of something when they see it. > > Thanks. > > > --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: > > ...comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area...big chance that your > Ewert originate from Mecklenburg or Pommern... > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:17:37 -0700 (PDT) > From: juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] "commonality of names" EWERT > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <183329.91290.qm@web110009.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Never mind - I can't sign into the message board. My laptop is ill > and I'm using an old one that doesn't have my passwords on it. When > my computer feels better and I can log in, I'll upload the images > clipped from the manifests. > > Julia > > --- On Mon, 4/4/11, juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> wrote: > > ...I'll upload two images onto the message board of the Americanized > version of the EWERT's town... > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS list administrator, send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS mailing list, send > an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 71 > ****************************************************** > >

    04/03/2011 06:05:12
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names"
    2. Brigitte Jahnke
    3. Hello Jeanne, rather easy to answer. There is a couple of Dauwe in the Bentheim and Osnabrück area. But the origin of all Dauwe is a farm ab. 8 miles from my home in the Tecklenburg, Westfalen area. Brigitte Am 03.04.2011 22:52, schrieb Jeanne Freeman: > Hello, > > I enjoyed reading this comprehensive answer to the surname Evert. Perhaps you could help me with my surname "Dauwe." My ancestor, John (probably Johann) Dauwe was born in the Kingdom of Hannover. It doesn't seem that common of a German name. Perhaps it was originally from The Netherlands? I would love to know more about the name Dauwe. > > Jeanne in Phoenix > > > >

    04/03/2011 05:13:46
    1. Re: [G-P-L] question about Selisia
    2. Phil Kuehn
    3. Silesia became a German State.It borders the East of Ge rmany & its Eastern most Border is Poland & Checloslovakia(can't spell it),Poland on the North & East. Prussia took it over.  then after WWll the portioning by Roosevelt,Stalin,Churchhill,etc, gave it all back to Poland where it became a province of USSR until Paristroika,etc. In brief it should be clear as mud,but, you can find out about it w/ Google . Hope this gets you started. Good luck Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Wiersema" <judybevans@att.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2011 5:17:54 PM Subject: [G-P-L] question about Selisia Could anyone tell me about the country Selisia, I have been searching for years for my ggrands, and now I find out I have been researching in the wrong place and they probably came from Selisia, I was visiting the Allen County Library and a kind young man from Belgium who was sitting by me, informed me that I was looking in the wrong place, and to look at Silesia.  I have never heard of Silesia.  Their surname I believe was spelled originally as Czechowicz, as I have seen other names like that, but not the spelling they used in America.  In Silesia there is a province named Katovicz, and Cossel, could they have used that for their names when they came here or how did it work on the passenger list. I just heard of the country lately.  Both ggrands said they came from Prussia, born in 1860. He I think from what family has said was Kolm, they came to America in 1887, her name was Amelia Kosel, or Kozal.  There is a town in Silesia of Cosel.  I just cant find them anywher.  He spelled their last name when they came to America as Karl Cekafetz, sounds like Chic a fetz.  Any Any Any help would be tremendously appreciated,  They lived in Taylorville, and Decatur IL all of their lives.  My ggrandmother said she was sorry she ever let him over the border, so I think she was German and he was Polish?????  I am at a loss, but always depended on each other until they died, even tho married to someone else. Thank you for any help to guide me in the right direction.  I have seen a few books but not events for during the years 1800 to 1900, it was all after 1944 they anyone mentions Silesia ________________________________ For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/03/2011 04:39:08
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names"
    2. Brigitte Jahnke
    3. Sorry, of course Eberd, Eberst is not pronounced like Evert, Ewert, etc..... Brigitte Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: > Greetings, Brigette ~ > > I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that common. > > For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) > > (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family that I know of so far.) > > Thank you! > > --- On Sat, 4/2/11, Brigitte Jahnke<brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: > Klein is a very very very common name in Germany, the 15th frequent of > all the names in our country... > > Brigitte > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/03/2011 04:35:14
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "Post card" CHG "commonality of names"
    2. Brigitte Jahnke
    3. Hello Julia, the most easiest: the name Evert comes from an old German given: Eberhard. Short forms in Germany are: Evert, Everd, Everdt, Ewert, Ewerd, Ewerdt, Eberd, Eberdt. It's always pronounced in the same was, although its written in a different way. Most comon surnames are today: Evert: most people live in North-Eastern Germany, also in the Hannover area, almost none in Southern Germany Ewerd: all over Germany, very few in Bavaria, rather huge concentration in Pommern and the eastern parts of Mecklenburg. Ewert: comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area, most parts of Germany few families of this name Ebert: most frequent of these names, in all German areas, most in the Rhein-Hessen, Franken, Hohenlohe, and Rhein-Neckar area. As far as I know there is a big chance that your Ewert originate from Mecklenburg or Pommern. In Germany it's a normal surname, nothing exciting and nothing rare. Even had a Ewert classmate at primary school, don't know where she is today. There is also a request, unfortunately Terri didn't give her address: Terri schrieb am 29.04.2010: /Looking for Ewerts may have come from Karlsdorf. My Grandpa is Frank born 22-3-1880. Came to South and North Dakota. Paper trail in USA is non existent. Franks parents were Frank and Julianna (Mielke)Ewert. Also went by Ebert and Evertt. Heard they were from a villiage near Frankfort or Berlin. Can anyone help. / Brigitte Am 03.04.2011 21:45, schrieb juliasgenes: > Greetings, Brigette ~ > > I'm wondering about EWERT. I was told once by a German tourist to the US that it's found in the low lands not far from the coast and it's not that common. > > For instance, I'm wondering if the EWERTs seen in Cleveland before the arrival of my GF in 1891 may have been some of his relatives. If it's a fairly common name, maybe not. If it's uncommon, maybe so? I read where the name refers to a strong boar (or in my case, a weak bore? .^_^.) > > (A brother followed GF to Cleveland in 1892, then his parents, 2 married sisters, and 2 teen brothers all came in 1899. That's all of the family that I know of so far.) > > Thank you!

    04/03/2011 04:28:18
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "commonality of names" EWERT
    2. juliasgenes
    3. Never mind - I can't sign into the message board. My laptop is ill and I'm using an old one that doesn't have my passwords on it. When my computer feels better and I can log in, I'll upload the images clipped from the manifests. Julia --- On Mon, 4/4/11, juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> wrote: ...I'll upload two images onto the message board of the Americanized version of the EWERT's town...

    04/03/2011 03:17:37
    1. Re: [G-P-L] "commonality of names" EWERT
    2. juliasgenes
    3. Thanks for the information. It's interesting to me, anyway! Once they got to Cleveland, some of the EWERT brothers became EVERT and my GF became EVERETT (don't know what he did about his accent, though!). Thanks for the query, but I know nothing of EWERTs beyond my GF and his siblings in Cleveland. Perhaps, way back in Europe, they connect somehow. I'll upload two images onto the message board of the Americanized version of the EWERT's town. It looks like "Petrikan" to me, but I've been told that there's no such place. Maybe it'll remind list members of something when they see it. Thanks. --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Brigitte Jahnke <brigitte@brigittejahnke.com> wrote: ...comcentration in Pommern and Hannover area...big chance that your Ewert originate from Mecklenburg or Pommern...

    04/03/2011 02:53:12