Hello Jeff, my records show that I sent you both the Hamburg Departure and the NY arrival list of the Ship Washington for Aaron Davidson on August 10, 2010. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Davidson" <JEFDAV@oklahomacounty.org> To: Germany-Passenger-Lists-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:11:47 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Transcript of Passenger List for The Ship Washington I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather who I think came to America on the ship Washington arrived at New York June 10th 1852, Departed from Hamburg Germany. He was born around 1832 Germany, don't know exactly where. I think he may have come alone but am not sure, have no idea whom his Parents were. Thank You, Jeff Davidson For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeff, does your ggrandfather have a name? Surely you don't expect us to scan 6-10 pages of passenger lists. Please provide exact name, name of spouse, children if any, and their ages o DOBs. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Davidson" <JEFDAV@oklahomacounty.org> To: Germany-Passenger-Lists-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:11:47 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Transcript of Passenger List for The Ship Washington I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather who I think came to America on the ship Washington arrived at New York June 10th 1852, Departed from Hamburg Germany. He was born around 1832 Germany, don't know exactly where. I think he may have come alone but am not sure, have no idea whom his Parents were. Thank You, Jeff Davidson For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Which country were they travelling to? Chris in Hahndorf South Australia _____ From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J Behr Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2011 10:54 AM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] SS Weimer - Nov 1892 Hello, I am searching for a transcript or scanned copy of the passenger list for the late Nov. 1892 arrival of the SS Weimer from Bremen, Germany. The passengers I am interested in are the Ernst Hardt family. The family consisted of Mathilde (mother) Ernst (husband Bertha (wife) Reinhold Anna Emma It is my understanding that this ship was in quarantine at Port Charles for about 16 days, arriving at Port Charles on Nov. 10, 1892. Also, is there any way to find an individual that died at sea or in quarantine? Any assistance is very much appreciated. Thank you in advance. Joan Behrendt For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3599 - Release Date: 04/26/11

Ursula, What is the "NRA"? Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula" To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: 27 April, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] SS Weimer - Nov 1892 > Joan, > the only way I could help you is if the Hardt family landed first in New > York before leaving for Australia. > I have been told that one of the German Universities is attempting to > index the few Bremen Departure lists that are available but so far they > are not accessible through ancestry.com. > > Perhaps someone on the list can provide you with a link. > Other than that you would need to contact the Australian equivalent of the > NRA. > > Sorry I can't help. > > Ursula

I am looking for information on my Great Grandfather who I think came to America on the ship Washington arrived at New York June 10th 1852, Departed from Hamburg Germany. He was born around 1832 Germany, don't know exactly where. I think he may have come alone but am not sure, have no idea whom his Parents were. Thank You, Jeff Davidson

Mathilde Hardt Nov 1892 60 Years 0 Months years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Ernst Hardt Nov 1892 29 Years 0 Months years Male Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Bertha Hardt Nov 1892 25 Years 0 Months years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Reinold Hardt Nov 1892 4 Years 0 Months years Male Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Anna Hardt Nov 1892 3 Years 0 Months years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Emma Hardt Nov 1892 0 Years 2 Months years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 Mathilde Hardt Nov 1892 60 Years 0 Months years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Ernst Hardt Nov 1892 29 Years 0 Months years Male Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Bertha Hardt Nov 1892 25 Years 0 Months years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Reinold Hardt Nov 1892 4 Years 0 Months years Male Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Anna Hardt Nov 1892 3 Years 0 Months years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Add Update Emma Hardt Nov 1892 0 Years 2 Months years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 We have saved the image to our computer. So, before the target ancestral family having lived halfway between Minneapolis & Green Bay, Wisconsin, were they from Schönberg, their last residence, as mentioned in the passenger listing, or Kerlien--as suggested by Ancestry.com Family Tree owner: ddellvon from Minnesota Last log in: Last six months Ancestry Contributions 6 Public Family Trees 8 Message Board Posts Name Arrival Date Age Gender Port of Departure Ship Name Port of Arrival Microfilm Roll Number Page Mathilde Hardt Nov 1892 60 Years Female [Bremen] Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Ernst Hardt Nov 1892 29 Years Male Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Bertha Hardt Nov 1892 25 Years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Reinold Hardt Nov 1892 4 Years Male Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Anna Hardt Nov 1892 3 Years Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 Emma Hardt Nov 1892 2 Months Female Weimar Baltimore, Maryland 2 137 It is generally noted on the passenger list if someone were to have died on the voyage. 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We also take pre-approved barter, cash, checks, trade, etc. This email and any attachments thereto JUST MIGHT contain crucial, important, interesting & USEFUL, publicly available, privileged & special data, documents & images for the conglomerate use of ANYONE who can intercept them. Any review, copying, or distribution of this email (or any attachments thereto) by others is strictly ENCOURAGED! If you are not the intended recipient, please be grateful & SPREAD THE NEWS as far & wide as you can! CONTACT the sender immediately and permanently SAVE the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. > From: germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 85 > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:00:49 -0600 > > > 1. SS Weimer - Nov 1892 (J Behr) > 2. Re: SS Weimer - Nov 1892 (Chris Anders-Tritt) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:23:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: J Behr <lancer59jb@yahoo.com> > Subject: [G-P-L] SS Weimer - Nov 1892 > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <485256.30869.qm@web120318.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello, > I am searching for a transcript or scanned copy of the > passenger list for the late Nov. 1892 arrival of the SS Weimer from > Bremen, Germany. > > The passengers I am interested in are the Ernst Hardt family.? The family consisted of > Mathilde (mother) > Ernst (husband > Bertha? (wife) > Reinhold > Anna > Emma > > It is my understanding that this ship was in quarantine at Port Charles > for about 16 days, arriving at Port Charles on Nov. 10, 1892. > Also, is there any way to find an individual that died at sea or in quarantine? > > Any assistance is very much appreciated.? Thank you in advance. > Joan Behrendt

Hello, I am searching for a transcript or scanned copy of the passenger list for the late Nov. 1892 arrival of the SS Weimer from Bremen, Germany. The passengers I am interested in are the Ernst Hardt family.  The family consisted of Mathilde (mother) Ernst (husband Bertha  (wife) Reinhold Anna Emma It is my understanding that this ship was in quarantine at Port Charles for about 16 days, arriving at Port Charles on Nov. 10, 1892. Also, is there any way to find an individual that died at sea or in quarantine? Any assistance is very much appreciated.  Thank you in advance. Joan Behrendt

HI Ursala,  I looked up abfragen then druk & that way it means the same thing as the 1st? Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula" <ubatrans@comcast.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 7:04:08 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Translation of German words Sue, I know only the word "Anfragedruck" which means "query printout"; I couldn't find the word "Abfragedruck" in any German dictionary, it appears to me that it is a misprint, whatever, it definitely doesn't mean Emigration. The abbreviation "Sign." is the German word for "Signatur" which in library terms means Catalog Number and "N-Baier" is a misspelled reference for "Northern Bavaria". Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Hubbard" <suehubb@forumrsa.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:39:18 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Translation of German words I found an older document that has a heading "Abfragedruck".  I believe that means "Emigration". Under the subject  (German word) "Sign" are the words "N-Baier".  What does Sign and N-Baier mean? Thanks, Sue   For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ursula - thanks so much for your translation assistance. I can update my document with the correct words now. Sue Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Translation of German words Sue, I know only the word "Anfragedruck" which means "query printout"; I couldn't find the word "Abfragedruck" in any German dictionary, it appears to me that it is a misprint, whatever, it definitely doesn't mean Emigration. The abbreviation "Sign." is the German word for "Signatur" which in library terms means Catalog Number and "N-Baier" is a misspelled reference for "Northern Bavaria". Ursula

Sue, I know only the word "Anfragedruck" which means "query printout"; I couldn't find the word "Abfragedruck" in any German dictionary, it appears to me that it is a misprint, whatever, it definitely doesn't mean Emigration. The abbreviation "Sign." is the German word for "Signatur" which in library terms means Catalog Number and "N-Baier" is a misspelled reference for "Northern Bavaria". Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Hubbard" <suehubb@forumrsa.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 4:39:18 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Translation of German words I found an older document that has a heading "Abfragedruck". I believe that means "Emigration". Under the subject (German word) "Sign" are the words "N-Baier". What does Sign and N-Baier mean? Thanks, Sue For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julia and others whose posts are not forwarded: I was so frustrated by having my posts rejected by Mailer Demon that I wrote to Comcast for help in figuring it out. The text below is Comcast's reply to my plea for help: ursulaba wrote: Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com... Rejected: 76.96.30.80 listed at dnsbl.sorbs.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is about rootsweb.com making a poor choice of blocklists to use. SORBS has quite a few lists, and one of them, spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net, lists any IP address that has *ever* sent a spam to SORBS. All big outfits have servers on that list; they're also blocking email from AOL and Gmail, for example. There's nothing Comcast can do about it, all big outfits leak spam, and they're going to be listed by spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net. Note that this isn't about SORBS in general, the recommended aggregate list dnsbl.sorbs.net doesn't include the spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net list. They had to go out of their way to shoot themselves in the foot by specifically querying the spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net. .... ==================== I hope this explains why some of the posts sent to G-P-L are rejected. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time.

I found an older document that has a heading "Abfragedruck". I believe that means "Emigration". Under the subject (German word) "Sign" are the words "N-Baier". What does Sign and N-Baier mean? Thanks, Sue

Thanks, Ursula - Maybe that's their way of reducing the lists and list members that go through their system. Anyone can get pegged as a spammer at any time if they happen to use one of the "suspected" words in their subject line. That happened a few months back to another genealogy list I belong to. To be a full member, you have to submit a "qualification request". A potential member put that phrase in the subject line and AOL threatened to turn off the account we were piggybacking on for sending spam (the word "qualification" is what they objected to). The list moved to GoogleGroups without any more trouble. It has some added benefits, too - italics, bold text, colored text, ability to create informative files for access from the mainpage, and the ability to upload images to the main site to share. Yours, Julia

There is a very interesting article on Google - Bremerhaven Lighthouse >From what I can see the first lighthouse was built in 1855 Chris in Hahndorf South Australia _____ From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of juliasgenes Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 1:22 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] a question about the Bremerhaven Lighthouse Since the ports of Bremen and Bremerhaven are so close to each other (they are now operated by one port authority, as a matter of fact), I was wondering if passengers departing from both ports would see the lighthouse? Thank you. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3572 - Release Date: 04/13/11

Thanks to you and Ilse for the interesting article. --- On Thu, 4/14/11, Chris Anders-Tritt <anderstritt@iinet.com.au> wrote: There is a very interesting article on Google - Bremerhaven Lighthouse Chris

Follow the bouncing ball.... --- On Thu, 4/14/11, MAILER-DAEMON@nm23.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com <MAILER-DAEMON@nm23.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com> wrote: See? --- On Thu, 4/14/11, MAILER-DAEMON@nm28.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com <MAILER-DAEMON@nm28.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com> wrote: I sometimes get messages in my spam folder, too, so I always check it the first thing. It's the bouncing that's so irritating. I don't seem to be the only one, either. --- On Thu, 4/14/11, Ilse Nusbaum <ilse.nusbaum@att.net> wrote: ...list messages landed in my spam folder... Ilse

Julia, This and several other list messages landed in my spam folder. It doesn't happen with my other groups, so maybe there's something that interferes with this list. I guess I should check spam more often. Ilse ________________________________ From: Chris Anders-Tritt <anderstritt@iinet.com.au> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 9:05:21 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] a question about the Bremerhaven Lighthouse There is a very interesting article on Google - Bremerhaven Lighthouse >From what I can see the first lighthouse was built in 1855 Chris in Hahndorf South Australia   _____  From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of juliasgenes Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2011 1:22 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] a question about the Bremerhaven Lighthouse Since the ports of Bremen and Bremerhaven are so close to each other (they are now operated by one port authority, as a matter of fact), I was wondering if passengers departing from both ports would see the lighthouse? Thank you. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   _____  No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3572 - Release Date: 04/13/11 For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Grrrrrrr --- ANOTHER "Reply" bounce. I'm re-sending as a new post - fingers crossed! Is this a Yahoo thing or a Rootsweb thing? It's not happening with the lists I belong to that are through YahooGroups and GoogleGroups. Back to my reply message: Thank you so much, Ursula, for that info. I presumed that was the case: "the last piece of 'home' the emigrant would see" so I went ahead and used it in the header of a family site I'm preparing. I'm pleased to hear it's true. The lighthouse represents the old German/Prussian homeland and Columbus Square in Cleveland represents the new homeland (though technically, they landed in Baltimore - artistic license). The figures are from a photo of my GPs - GF emigrated in 1891 (don't know when GM came). And the suitcase is the symbol of the migration. http://ewert7diaspora.wordpress.com/ --- On Thu, 4/14/11, Ursula <ubatrans@comcast.net> wrote: >...it doesn't matter whether you departed from Cuxhaven, Bremen/Bremerhaven, or >Hamburg, the lighthouse...was the last piece of 'home' the emigrant would see. > >Ursula

There's a Wikipedia article that Google translates, and at the same time allows you to read the original (sometimes the translation's wacky), so that  if you can read German at all you can figure it out. Ursula, I sailed from Hamburg (on the Hamburg) as a young child in 1938. I don't recall a lighthouse, but on the other hand, I also don't remember seeing the Statue of Liberty. From the article and what you say, the lighthouse would be the last land sight I saw -- am I correct? Ilse ________________________________ From: Ursula <ubatrans@comcast.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 10:14:54 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] a question about the Bremerhaven Lighthouse Julia, it doesn't matter whether you departed from Cuxhaven, Bremen/Bremerhaven, or Hamburg, the lighthouse known as "Roter Sand", located 30 miles offshore in the North Sea, was the last piece of 'home' the emigrant would see. There are many lighthouses in that area but the oldest and most famous one is the now defunct Roter Sand. Operation was discontinued in the 1960s. I googled "Leuchtturm Roter Sand" but the homepage is in German. You may want to see if they have an English version. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "juliasgenes" <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:52:02 PM Subject: [G-P-L] a question about the Bremerhaven Lighthouse Since the ports of Bremen and Bremerhaven are so close to each other (they are now operated by one port authority, as a matter of fact), I was wondering if passengers departing from both ports would see the lighthouse? Thank you. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Judy Wiersema <judybevans@att.net> To: ubatrans@comcast.com Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 9:21:02 AM Subject: Fw: [G-P-L] Fw: question about Selisia response to you sorry I sent it last nite and it came back as underliverable. hope you can read it. thanks ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Judy Wiersema <judybevans@att.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.c Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 10:31:42 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Fw: question about Selisia I knowgg that they lived in Assumption/Taylorville Illinois and ggf movied to Decatur Il. in 1899 The census says they came to America in 1887 and stayed in Illinois until their deaths in 1946.  He spelled his name as Carl Sekafetz, she was Amelia Cekafetz, I do not know where they arrived in America, he was a coal miner in Decatur and Taylorville. thank you, you have given me quite alot of information in your response to me, thank you very much, I was so lost I tried reading some maps and could not figure it out/  Your a blessing. I am really trying to find out their original name, I suspect it was polish, and in Silesia the town Kollm and what my ggm said that my ggf said he came from Ulm.    so with their accent it could have been Kollm, in Silesia, but he always said Prussia on Documents. Their name in America was spelled like Sekafetz , but the polish spelling would be czeckavicz, sounds so much alike.  I am trying to get to where they came from to have a chance to visit.  I am 71 and not in good health and want to go so badly. thanks for helping. ________________________________ From: Ursula <ubatrans@comcast.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 8:20:47 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Fw: question about Selisia Hello Judy, I really don't know what you are looking for. Are you looking for records in Germany or in the US? If you are confident that your ancestors came from Kollm, a hamlet in the Oberlausitz region of Schlesien [notice correct spelling of Kollm], which is now in Saxony, you may want to sign up to the Saxony list to see what resources there are available. Shown below is a link to the church in Kollm as part of a travel brochure. http://www.urlaub-reise-ideen.de/oberlausitz/kollm-kirche.html Please let us know if you're looking for them in US. Best wishes, Ursula ____________________________________________________ There will come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Wiersema" <judybevans@att.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:36:25 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Fw:  question about Selisia I have not received any help at all, can anyone help me thank you ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Judy Wiersema <judybevans@att.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 4:17:54 PM Subject: [G-P-L] question about Selisia Could anyone tell me about the country Selisia, I have been searching for years for my ggrands, and now I find out I have been researching in the wrong place and they probably came from Selisia, I was visiting the Allen County Library and a kind young man from Belgium who was sitting by me, informed me that I was looking in the wrong place, and to look at Silesia.  I have never heard of Silesia.  Their surname I believe was spelled originally as Czechowicz, as I have seen other names like that, but not the spelling they used in America.  In Silesia there is a province named Katovicz, and Cossel, could they have used that for their names when they came here or how did it work on the passenger list. I just heard of the country lately.  Both ggrands said they came from Prussia, born in 1860. He I think from what family has said was Kolm, they came to America in 1887, her name was Amelia Kosel, or Kozal.  There is a town in Silesia of Cosel.  I just cant find them anywher.  He spelled their last name when they came to America as Karl Cekafetz, sounds like Chic a fetz.  Any Any Any help would be tremendously appreciated,  They lived in Taylorville, and Decatur IL all of their lives.  My ggrandmother said she was sorry she ever let him over the border, so I think she was German and he was Polish?????  I am at a loss, but always depended on each other until they died, even tho married to someone else. Thank you for any help to guide me in the right direction.  I have seen a few books but not events for during the years 1800 to 1900, it was all after 1944 they anyone mentions Silesia ________________________________ For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message