This whole subject matter is often overlooked. This is REAL HISTORY not learned in books. Those who have seen the movie "THE GANGS OF NEW YORK" may recall the massive recruiting of (in the film Irish) immigrants coming off the ships for the Union Army. ============ On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:51:27 -0500 "Bette McIntosh" <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> writes: > Hello "Masugu" (et al), > > I found your observations regarding emigration and Prussian > conscription > interesting. To add further to your posting, in my own research of > extended > family, I found it curious that an emigrant from Pomerania, born in > 1836, > would enlist at the age of 28 in the American Civil War in 1864, > serve > honorably and be "mustered out" at Vicksburg, MS in 1865. Having > served the > American military effort, on the side of the Union I might add, his > honorable discharged earned him automatic American citizenship > without his > having to complete the *three step* Naturalization process, incurred > by > other immigrants who did not join the American military. In > addition, this > Prussian (Pomeranian) born immigrant is buried in the military > section of a > U.S.A. cemetery while his Prussian born wife's remains are located > elsewhere > in the same cemetery. > > For what it's worth. > Bette > > > > Since the Prussians required registration for conscription at a > very early > > age > > (15, if I remember correctly), and since the young men felt > absolutely > > no loyalty to Prussia, many fled elsewhere to avoid the draft. > Once > > having arrived in the US however, their point of view in re > citizenship > > often did a 180. Thus the irony that many who fled Prussia to > avoid the > > draft ended up enlisting in US Federal or CSA military units. > > Cheers, Masugu > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

I truly think that I've seen enough about the maps give it a rest and go to the website and get them like was put in an email that went thru the list yesterday. This is overkill. Gale Prince Nash > I would like to see the maps too.

I would like to see the maps too. Renea reddare@mchsi.com

Hello "Masugu" (et al), I found your observations regarding emigration and Prussian conscription interesting. To add further to your posting, in my own research of extended family, I found it curious that an emigrant from Pomerania, born in 1836, would enlist at the age of 28 in the American Civil War in 1864, serve honorably and be "mustered out" at Vicksburg, MS in 1865. Having served the American military effort, on the side of the Union I might add, his honorable discharged earned him automatic American citizenship without his having to complete the *three step* Naturalization process, incurred by other immigrants who did not join the American military. In addition, this Prussian (Pomeranian) born immigrant is buried in the military section of a U.S.A. cemetery while his Prussian born wife's remains are located elsewhere in the same cemetery. For what it's worth. Bette > Since the Prussians required registration for conscription at a very early > age > (15, if I remember correctly), and since the young men felt absolutely > no loyalty to Prussia, many fled elsewhere to avoid the draft. Once > having arrived in the US however, their point of view in re citizenship > often did a 180. Thus the irony that many who fled Prussia to avoid the > draft ended up enlisting in US Federal or CSA military units. > Cheers, Masugu

I would love to receive the maps. Thanks.

Another contrary view on cleaning up the replies -- I'm always frustrated when I read a message that is obviously a reply to something previously sent, and I have no idea what it refers to. I think it's good to leave some of the previous email IF it applies to the subject of your email. Just a couple of days ago I found myself scrolling back through the attached emails to help someone with a question. I wouldn't have had the info I needed without the previous messages. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula B. Adamson" <ubatrans@klondyke.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Please cleanup your replies to list. > Amen to that. > Thank you Brian!! It's about time someone took action. Now that I have > deleted 180+ GPL > messages asking for maps perhaps it is safe to ask our readers/respondents > to pleeease, put > the Names of the persons you're researching where they belong, namely on > the Subject line. > It's so frustrating having to open each and every message to determine > what it's all about. > And remember to snip off the previous message(s)! > > Ursula > > Brian Martin wrote: > >> If you are going to reply to the list, please delete all the >> extraneous previous messages. It is really annoying to scroll through >> so much material about how to unsubscribe, messages about it being > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It has been mentioned that the maps everyone is so very interested on receiving are going to be posted on a website. Would someone please post the link for this site, I was unaware one existed. Thank you, Jan B.

Hi Folks; I did a good bit of research to try to understand why so many of my ancestors fled Schleswig-Holstein in the mid-19th Century. This led me to understand that up until the time of the Prussian takeover, most if not all Germans were citizens of "city states", such as Hessen, Hanover or Holstein. If a German peasant had any patriotic feelings at all they were to one of these city states, vice a German federation (chances are that any such loyalties went no further than the local village). Since the Prussians required registration for conscription at a very early age (15, if I remember correctly), and since the young men felt absolutely no loyalty to Prussia, many fled elsewhere to avoid the draft. Once having arrived in the US however, their point of view in re citizenship often did a 180. Thus the irony that many who fled Prussia to avoid the draft ended up enlisting in US Federal or CSA military units. One interesting sidebar of my research is the discovery that my ancestors didn't even speak the same language as their Prussian "countrymen". They spoke Plattedeutsch vice German. Also known as Low-Saxon, this is a Germanic tongue more closely allied to Danish, Dutch and English than to proper German. Cheers, Masugu

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Re: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen (phillip) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:28:36 +1200 From: "George Volp" <volpg@callsouth.net.nz> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] German Empire maps To: <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@ROOTSWEB.COM> Message-ID: <003801c6d026$071f1510$0201a8c0@volp9cf229880b> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Myri, I would be very grateful if you will send maps to me George ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:31:16 EDT From: M2JOHNJUDY@aol.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FREE ACCESS TO THE ORIGINSNETWORK To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4a6.7b0f777.322d84a4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have a question. How did you get in without singing in and getting a password? Judy ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:36:48 -0400 From: "Susan Clark" <susan.g.clark@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FREE ACCESS TO THEORIGINSNETWORK To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <019201c6d027$2c437c40$6801a8c0@SGCComputer> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I don't think you do. ----- Original Message ----- From: <M2JOHNJUDY@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FREE ACCESS TO THEORIGINSNETWORK >I have a question. How did you get in without singing in and getting a > password? Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:37:48 -0400 From: "Susan Clark" <susan.g.clark@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Ship / Lindstedt To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <019b01c6d027$4fbcc0f0$6801a8c0@SGCComputer> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original What information are you looking for? I don't want to give you things you already have. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rockychip@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Ship / Lindstedt >I am researching the Schneider/Panko (Panloe/Pankow) family. George John > Schneider b. 4/5/1837 in Germany (Prussia) married Fredericka Panko b. > 2/14/1846 in Germany (Prussia) Their marriage was in Kenton Co, Kentucky, > U.S.A. in > 1868. Her father was John Panko, b. ?in Germany. They lived in Kenton Co., > Kentucky until their deaths. Hers on 2/16/1916 and his > on 8/8/1918. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:46:16 -0400 From: "Judith Silbaugh" <judith.silbaugh@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002f01c6d028$803eb3e0$0b4e4b0c@13vdc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The maps would be very helpful to my Naumann research. Thanks for your help. Judy in Ohio ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:44:21 EDT From: M2JOHNJUDY@aol.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FREE ACCESS TO THEORIGINSNETWORK To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c4a.1976b1b.322d87b5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I'm probably doing something wrong. I'll try again. Thanks Judy ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 06:51:31 -0700 (PDT) From: kajh <kajh76@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FREE ACCESS TO THE ORIGINSNETWORK To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com, M2JOHNJUDY@aol.com Message-ID: <20060904135131.97265.qmail@web60522.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Judy, I believe you have to sign in with your e-mail address, name and last name (of your choosing and/or initials), then you get sent a password. You choose your own "user name" when it asks. There is NO need to enter any credit card numbers at all. Someone on another list did that by mistake and is now paying for 72 hours of access. Only keep following "Free Access" links. Kathleen The website has been experiencing problems - probably due to the amount of traffic. ..from the Origins network homepage, click on the links at the very top of the screen. There is a link for British Origins, Irish Origins, of Scots Origins. ______________________________________________________ --- M2JOHNJUDY@aol.com wrote: I have a question. How did you get in without singing in and getting a password? Judy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:04:08 EDT From: Bbfritch@aol.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FREE ACCESS TO THE ORIGINSNETWORK To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <572.531923d.322d8c58@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I signed in - and got a password! Then I was able to see some records, although I didn't try to look at passenger records. Betty FL I have a question. How did you get in without singing in and getting a password? Judy ------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:07:30 -0500 From: "Deb Stapek" <debs@mn.rr.com> Subject: [G-P-L] Maps To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000c01c6d02b$76ed1d60$95c4a318@debstapek> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I would also love to get copy of the maps. Thanks! Deb debs@mn.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:12:39 -0500 From: "Billie Brem" <bbrem@hot.rr.com> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FREE ACCESS TO THE ORIGINSNETWORK To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <014e01c6d02c$2e51f7a0$6501a8c0@brem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Somewhere I missed out on the web site that is being referred to below. Can someone please put that on again? BBrem ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bbfritch@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FREE ACCESS TO THE ORIGINSNETWORK > > I signed in - and got a password! Then I was able to see some records, > although I didn't try to look at passenger records. > > Betty > FL > > I have a question. How did you get in without singing in and getting a > password? Judy > > ------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 07:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: kajh <kajh76@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FREE ACCESS TO THE ORIGINSNETWORK To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20060904142627.96697.qmail@web60523.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Billie, I sent it to you off list. Kathleen ______________________________________________________________ --- Billie Brem <bbrem@hot.rr.com> wrote: Somewhere I missed out on the web site that is being referred to below. Can someone please put that on again? BBrem __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:28:25 -0500 From: "Billie Brem" <bbrem@hot.rr.com> Subject: [G-P-L] G-P-L Germany Passenger Lists To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <01a401c6d02e$6207f700$6501a8c0@brem> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am searching for immigration of Heinrich Kruse, born 17 Dec 1858. Died 21 October 1903 1900 US census Texas, McLennan Co. states he came to US in 1881 from Prussia. Final Naturalization papers just state from Germany are dated 21 Oct 1892, in McLennan County, Texas. No Declaration of Intent has been found. He married Maria Margaretha Gehling after 1881 in Ohio and their first child, Lizzie, was born in Ohio, around Cincinnati. There were 6 daughters in all, 5 others born in Texas. This is all I know about this man. I also have not found the immigration records on Maria Gehling. But that is another story. Billie Brem bbrem@hot.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 10:31:48 -0400 From: "phillip" <ahialeah@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003a01c6d02e$dbbd09f0$0202a8c0@Home> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Please send maps. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Haab" <mhaab@web.de> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 6:14 AM Subject: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen > Joanne and everyone who is interested, > I just found maps of "Germany after the war 1618-1648" and of the time of > the German Confederation in a history book. Furthermore, I have two old > maps > I once fond on the internet. They are called "Central Europe 1786" and > "ganz > German Empire 1871 - 1918". These maps will help you to locate the > smaller > German states. > I'll send them to everyone who is interested. I don't think it is > necessary > to send them to all members of the list because it's about 5 MB. > Send me an email and I'll send you the maps :-) > Have a nice day! Myri > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ End of GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 15 ******************************************************

Dear List, An atlas of the German Empire is available for downloading in sections at http://www.library.wisc.edu/etext/ravenstein/home.html The website includes an index and detailed user instructions. I am leaving for Germany tomorrow and will be back Oct 3rd. Have a great month, everyone! Baerbel Johnson Baerbel K. Johnson International Reference FAX: 801-240-1925 Tel. : 801-240-6289 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear List, An atlas of the German Empire is available for downloading in sections at http://www.library.wisc.edu/etext/ravenstein/home.html The website includes an index and detailed user instructions. I am leaving for Germany tomorrow and will be back Oct 3rd. Have a great month, everyone! Baerbel Johnson Baerbel K. Johnson International Reference FAX: 801-240-1925 Tel. : 801-240-6289 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Amen to that. Thank you Brian!! It's about time someone took action. Now that I have deleted 180+ GPL messages asking for maps perhaps it is safe to ask our readers/respondents to pleeease, put the Names of the persons you're researching where they belong, namely on the Subject line. It's so frustrating having to open each and every message to determine what it's all about. And remember to snip off the previous message(s)! Ursula Brian Martin wrote: > If you are going to reply to the list, please delete all the > extraneous previous messages. It is really annoying to scroll through > so much material about how to unsubscribe, messages about it being

I never sent my email address for maps, sorry. volpg@callsouth.net.nz George

Hi Myri, I would be very grateful if you will send maps to me George

My great grandfather Aaron (aka Adolph Marcus) ENGERS appartently served in the German army in 1870-71 in Colmar or Stasburg. Any suggestions as to finding any army records still available? How about the list established of Jewish men serving in the German army at that time?? thanks for any suggestions and help. Howard ENGERS engersh@ahrialert.org --- David Lindstedt <semperfidave@juno.com> wrote: > Many of the "low landers" opposed the Prussians and > in the > Franco-Prussian War (July 19, 1870 – May 10, 1871) > they were sympathedic to France therefore chose to > get their sons out of > the country. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War > War was declared by France on Prussia, which was > backed by the North > German Confederation and the south German states of > Baden, Württemberg > and Bavaria. The conflict marked the culmination of > tension between the > two powers following Prussia's rise to dominance in > Germany, which before > 1866 was still a loose federation of > quasi-independent territories. > > The war began over the possible ascension of a > candidate from the > Catholic branch of the Hohenzollern royal family to > the vacant Spanish > throne as Isabella II had abdicated in 1868. This > was strongly opposed by > France who issued an ultimatum to King Wilhelm I of > Prussia to have the > candidacy withdrawn, which was done. Aiming to > humiliate Prussia, Emperor > Napoleon III of France then required Wilhelm to > apologize and renounce > any possible further Hohenzollern candidature to the > Spanish throne. King > Wilhelm, surprised at his holiday resort by the > French ambassador, > declined as he was not informed yet. Prussia's > Chancellor, Otto von > Bismarck, edited the King's account of his meeting > with the French > ambassador to make the encounter more heated than it > really was. Known as > the Ems Dispatch, it was released to the press and > had the intended > effect on the German public. > > The French people and their parliament reacted with > outrage, Napoleon III > mobilized and declared war, on Prussia only, but > effectively also on the > states of southern Germany. The German armies > quickly mobilized and > within a few weeks controlled large amounts of land > in Eastern France. > Their success was due in part to rapid mobilization > by train, to Prussian > General staff leadership and to modern Krupp > artillery made of steel. > Napoleon III was captured with his whole army at the > Battle of Sedan, yet > this did not end the war, as a republic was declared > in Paris on > September 4, 1870, marking the creation of the Third > Republic of France > under the Government of National Defense and later > the "Versaillais > government" of Adolphe Thiers. The immediate result > was an extension to > the war as the Republic proclaimed a continuation of > the fight. > > Over a five-month campaign, the German armies > defeated the newly > recruited French armies in a series of battles > fought across northern > France. Following a prolonged siege, the French > capital Paris fell on > January 28, 1871. Ten days earlier, the German > states had proclaimed > their union under the Prussian King, uniting Germany > as a nation-state, > the German Empire. The final peace Treaty of > Frankfurt was signed May 10, > 1871, during the time of the bloody Paris Commune of > 1871. > > In France and Germany the war is known as the > Franco-German War (French: > Guerre franco-allemande de 1870 German: > Deutsch-Französischer Krieg), > which perhaps more accurately describes the > combatants rather than simply > France and Prussia alone. > ============================================================== > > On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:15:36 -0400 "Jean Waterloo" > <waterloj@massnet1.net> > writes: > > The story I remember hearing when a child is that > my great > > grandfather ran > > his finger/fingers through a piece of farm > equipment as they were > > approaching him for conscription. I don't know if > it was his > > trigger finger > > or if it is true. The census shows him to have > been 16 when he > > arrived in > > the USA His place of origin was Bavaria. Rather > drastic but it > > would be one > > way to get out of conscription. Jean > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with > the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the > > message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Please may I have a copy of the maps. Thank you for your kindness Janet Harding jharding02@centurytel.net A.R. Hudson wrote: >Hi, >Yes please I would love the maps please >Regards >Roslyn Hudson > >-----Original Message----- >From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis >Beene >Sent: Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:23 PM >To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen > >PLEASE SEND ME THE MAPS. THANKS SO MUCH. >feline-lady1@comcast.net >----- Original Message ----- >From: "M. Haab" <mhaab@web.de> >To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 5:14 AM >Subject: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen > > > > >>Joanne and everyone who is interested, >>I just found maps of "Germany after the war 1618-1648" and of the time of >>the German Confederation in a history book. Furthermore, I have two old >>maps >>I once fond on the internet. They are called "Central Europe 1786" and >>"ganz >>German Empire 1871 - 1918". These maps will help you to locate the >>smaller >>German states. >>I'll send them to everyone who is interested. I don't think it is >>necessary >>to send them to all members of the list because it's about 5 MB. >>Send me an email and I'll send you the maps :-) >>Have a nice day! Myri >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

If you are going to reply to the list, please delete all the extraneous previous messages. It is really annoying to scroll through so much material about how to unsubscribe, messages about it being virus free, lists of names, sometimes repeated 3 or 4 times. As you can see from my message, I have deleted all but the list of "Today's Topics". On Sep 4, 2006, at 6:54 PM, germany-passenger-lists- request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen (Wehinger) > 2. Re: Recent postings (Lorraine Travers) > 3. Re: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 17 > (Bill Gebhardt) > 4. Re: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen (Robert Ridenour) > 5. Re: Posting messages (Joseph C Dorsey) > 6. Maps (Darleen R Bjugan) > 7. Re: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen (Darleen R Bjugan) > >

Hi, I found a 1996 article about the company Fries & Fries (note the "&" as opposed to "and") in Cincinnati by googling. It contained a bit of company history: "The four-year-old Tastemaker was formed when Mallinckrodt and Hercules merged their flavor-making operations -- Cincinnati-based Fries & Fries Inc...Fries & Fries -- commonly known as F&F -- was founded locally in 1913 and was acquired by Mallinckrodt in 1971." Another site: "In 1997 Givaudan-Roure acquired Tastemaker based in Cincinnati, Ohio..." I remember it being visible (and smellable!) from I-75 in Cincinnati. A current address for Tastemaker is given as 1199 Edison Dr., Cincinnati, OH 45216, (513) 948-8000 If the company can't help a good place to contact might be the Cincinnati Historical Society. They have many older records from local companies and may have some information on the family tie-ins to the company. Also the Cincinnati Public Library has a large local history collection. Wish I still lived there so I could be of more help. The Hamilton County, Ohio Rootsweb list is very friendly. By the way, for Anglophones, the name of the company was pronounced Freeze and not like (French) fries. Juliann -----Original Message----- From: J Hansen [mailto:jrsh9999@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:23 PM To: 'germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com' Subject: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FW: [GEN-EN] Fries / Campbell / Wolf, For whatever it's worth Ft. Thomas, Kentucky and California, Kentucky are both in Campbell County. He should try subscribing to the Campbell County, Kentucky Rootsweb list. Also keep in mind that Campbell County, Kentucky is on the Ohio River just across from Hamilton County, Ohio where Cincinnati, Ohio is located. A huge number of Germans immigrated to Cincinnati and the surrounding areas from the mid-1800s into the 1900s. There is/was a company in Cincinnati called Fries & Fries that had been there for many, many years. They made flavors for food-- vanilla, raspberry, etc. that you could smell as you went by. I grew up in the area but haven't lived there in over 20 years so I don't know for sure if the company still exists. Googling turns up some possibilities. For whatever it's worth. Hope this helps. Juliann Original message: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:30:47 -0500 From: "Wolf Zscheile" <saxonyroots@charter.net> Subject: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] FW: [GEN-EN] Fries / Campbell / Kentucky To: "GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb. com" <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <026401c6cfb9$5def48a0$0300a8c0@HP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Hello All, here is a cry for HELP from Germany.. Anyone able to help Rolf ?? Have a nice evening, Wolf [Zscheile] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006

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