Hi Kathleen, In refernece to your msg. "kajh" <kajh76@yahoo.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] http://castlegarden.org or http://stevemorse.org " If you need more assistance, just ask." I know this wasn't directed to me, but I have tried these sites. I have had no luck with the castlegarden.org. The stevemorse.org doesn't seem to want work for me. I must be doing something wrong. I am looking for the SELINGER family. The best lead I have found is on www.saxonyroots.com. It had a Hermann SELINGER, age 17 on the Hansa, departed Hamburg Germany and arrived 14 June 1872 in NY via Liverpool. My family has a Herman(n) (George ?) or (George?) Herman(n) SELINGER or SELLINGER, born 11 Oct. 1854. The SELINGER or SELLINGER family I am researching was thought to have come from southern Germany and consisted of the parents.... August b. 25 Jan. 1825 in Germany? d. 14 June 1877 in Joliet, Will Co. IL. Wilhelmina (Minnie) b. 2 August 1824 in Germany ? d. 11 May 1889 in Joliet, Will Co. IL Children: George Hermann or Hermann George b. 11 October 1854 m. 26 Jan 1879 in Joliet, Will Co. IL d. 5 June 1932 in Joliet, Will Co. IL Julius b. estimated abt. 1860 moved abt. 1900 from Joliet, Will Co. IL and never heard from again. *Bertha Emilie b. 18 July 1866 m. 23 Sept. 1886 in Joliet, Will Co. IL d. 1 April 1937 in Joliet, Will Co. IL *my maternal Grt-grndm I am desperate to find their immigration records. Any help is greatly appreciated..... Best regards, Tricia M. .

<< big grin>> All this reminds me of a flock of sheep ... the leader panics and starts to run ... the rest just follow blindly Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecelia" <cheinric@tca.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Maps Not Again! OT >I can't believe this! > Please see the previous messages! Go to the link that was given. > My last comment on maps! From now on, it's the delete button! > Cecelia > > > From: "Ginger Walls" > > >> I'd love to have the maps too. Thanks!! > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Denise, > > From: "Denise" <ladbine@earthlink.net> > To: <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:37 PM > >> My name is Denise and I am looking for information on my >> great-grandparents, >> >> HENRY CARL BORCHARDT and MARGARETHE HENRIETTE CATHARINE MARIA WESTPHAL >> >> They immigrated to the U.S. around 1924. >> we do not have the records from 1924 but those from a visit to Germany on 21 Aug 1936 with the EUROPA see http://www.passengerlists.de Greetings from Bremen Karl http://www.kwesling.de

If you are feeling overwhelmed by e-mails, or they are not of interest to you, instead of getting your blood pressure up, you might try going "no mail" for your settings. That way, you can read only the messages you want to read, when you want to read them, they don't fill up your box, and you don't get all frustrated trying to keep up. I had to do that for quite a few lists I was on, when I was teaching school and had too much paper work to do. Worked well. I'm on one list where people constantly send messages to the list that only say things like "LOL", or "Smile", cutesy little comebacks, and those are really time consuming to wade through. Periodically, if I'm busy, I just have to go "no mail" on that list. But, they are a friendly bunch and no one seems to mind. Just a thought, rather than getting upset or unsubscribing, as some have done. Personally, I didn't notice that many e-mails that it became too much to just delete. Peace and calm.... Cecelia in Texas > > In a message dated 9/5/2006 7:02:36 P.M. Mountain Standard Time > 736@wideo write > > PLEASE NO MORE E-MAILS IF I NEED SOMETHING I WELL ASK FOR IT > >

I am getting 20 or more e-mails the past couple of days--far more than usual. I don't want to unsubscribe, but can't take all these e-mails. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kathygilbert" <kathygilbert@cinci.rr.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Volume of Emails > Wolf, How come I'm receiving so many more "digests" than I used to, since > the website/email changeover -- whatever it was that happened recently? > > I used to get one a day, but am now getting 4-5 digests a day. None are > duplicate. Just curious. Thanks. > > Is there really that much more activity since the recent changeover, or > was > I missing something before? > > Kathy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006 > >

Hi Jo as quoted in "The Pity of it All" by Amos Elon, see "Comite zur Abwehr antisemitischer Angriffe in Berlin eds. Die Juden als Soldatan. Berlin 1896, p. 69. does anyone have access to this list?? I am looking for Aaron (aka Adolph Marcus) ENGERS who served in Strasburg/Colmar around 1870. thanks Howard Engers --- Jo Davis <scenmkr106@wowway.com> wrote: > Hello, Howard... > What Jewish Men's List? Would like more on this, if > you can! > > Regards, > Jo Davis > Looking for WEIL, WEISKOPH, and DAVIS > in Germany, Austria, Poland, Russia, Bohemia ... and > any other such likely > place! > > (Per ref in Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 01:25:44 -0700 > (PDT) > From: Howard Engers < engersh@ahrialert.org > > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Conscription for > Franco-Prussian war > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com) > >

I have no solution. I have never had this problem before. I am interested in what they have to say, just not so many replies. Maybe if I wasn't so tired and trying to search through all these emails for information and letters from family and friends it would be different. Sounds like several got very nasty which is a shame. Take care and I will try to be more kind. Judy Hill

Not all replies result in a flood of emails as happened this weekend. I guess we all need to consider the value of a reply to the list. For instance, could someone else learn something from it? (I, for one, was very interested in the recent discussion on conscription and language.) And say someone requests information about a person. If that reply is not sent to the list, how does someone else know that the question has already been answered? Why should 5 or 10 people take the time to look up the same information that the person has already received? This was a very unusual occurrence, and I don't really see that it should affect the way that we have always communicated with each other. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <BikerJudy@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Conscription comment > The reason we need to reply individually is when one is on vacation and > comes home after 6 days and I find over 400 emails from the germany > passenger > list and german list it is a bit overwhelming. Susan, this is why folks > should > reply to the individual the question was met for. I also had over 50 in > my > spam folder. > I do not want the maps and for the 100 who did reply it should have gone > to > the person who has them and not to the whole list. If there is a website > that all would be concerned with fine. > I really was not pleased. > > Judy Hill > If anyone has names for a Cornelssen, Dorschlag, Albrecht, Langpaap, > Baumann, or such please contact. Delete button worked great. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wolf, How come I'm receiving so many more "digests" than I used to, since the website/email changeover -- whatever it was that happened recently? I used to get one a day, but am now getting 4-5 digests a day. None are duplicate. Just curious. Thanks. Is there really that much more activity since the recent changeover, or was I missing something before? Kathy

Betty, To state it simply.... as I understand it the 1st would be the Declaration of Intention, the 2nd the Application (petition) for citizenship, the 3rd the Certification of Citizenship (Naturalization). "Googling" will provide further details should you need them. Bette ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bbfritch@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Conscription > > Hi Bette, > > Do you know what the 3 steps in the naturalization process were? > > Betty > FL

Many have expressed frustration as to why people were still asking for maps when they had been asked to reply off-list. Think about it -- how do you read YOUR email? I personally read from oldest to newest, so if I had been one of those who was interested in the maps, I would have come across Myri's kind offer and replied then and there -- before I read any of the subsequent messages. I'm sure it's not that people are purposely ignoring the request to reply off-list. It's just that they don't read that message until AFTER they've sent their reply. Susan

The reason we need to reply individually is when one is on vacation and comes home after 6 days and I find over 400 emails from the germany passenger list and german list it is a bit overwhelming. Susan, this is why folks should reply to the individual the question was met for. I also had over 50 in my spam folder. I do not want the maps and for the 100 who did reply it should have gone to the person who has them and not to the whole list. If there is a website that all would be concerned with fine. I really was not pleased. Judy Hill If anyone has names for a Cornelssen, Dorschlag, Albrecht, Langpaap, Baumann, or such please contact. Delete button worked great.

Subscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-D@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 5:00 AM Subject: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-D Digest V06 #63

Frank, I have to disagree with what you seem to be saying -- that ALL replies to someone's comments should be made off-list. Let's not go overboard. Discussion is part of what this list is about. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Brehm" <nikomahs@bellsouth.net> To: <ubatrans@klondyke.net>; <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Conscription > DON'T YOU READ YOUR E-MAIL CONTACT THE INDIVIDUAL DIRECT. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ursula B. Adamson" <ubatrans@klondyke.net> > To: <"Wayne Straight"@mail.rootsweb.com>; > <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:30 AM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Conscription > > >> Hello Masuga, >> Some of your research appears to be flawed and I think it is not a good > idea to fill the >> heads of American researchers with stuff such as < "city states" such as > Hessen, Hannover, >> or Holstein>> that's just nonsense. I would suggest to anyone wanting to > know about the >> country/state of their ancestors that they 'google' around or else look >> it > up in the >> encyclopedia. >> >> You give people the impression that the only reason people left > Germany/Prussia was to >> escape conscription. That's absolutely not true....how else would you > explain the millions >> of single women who emigrated to the US because of the simple fact that > they were not free >> to marry i.e. unless the feudal landlord gave his permission. In >> addition, > there was the >> same potato plight in Germany in the late 1840s as the one that raged in > Ireland. >> >> And your comments regarding the "platt-deutsch" a dialect that is still > spoken in every >> village in Germany from the Baltic and Atlantic all the way down to Baden > and Bavaria even >> to this day along with the standard 'high german' is just pure nonsense. > Platt-deutsch has >> nothing to do with Low Saxony, it is a 'spoken language' or 'dialect' > that's different in >> every German state. >> When I visit my hometown in Hessen, I too speak 'platt-deutsch' with my > peers and anyone >> else who still remembers the local form of communication. >> >> Ursula from Michigan >> >> >> >> >> >> Wayne J. Straight wrote: >> > Hi Folks; >> > >> > I did a good bit of research to try to understand why so many of my >> > ancestors fled Schleswig-Holstein in the mid-19th Century. This led me >> > to understand that up until the time of the Prussian takeover, most if >> > not all Germans were citizens of "city states", such as Hessen, Hanover >> > or Holstein. If a German peasant had any patriotic feelings at all they >> > were to one of these city states, vice a German federation (chances are >> > that any such loyalties went no further than the local village). Since >> > the Prussians required registration for conscription at a very early >> > age >> > (15, if I remember correctly), and since the young men felt absolutely >> > no loyalty to Prussia, many fled elsewhere to avoid the draft. Once >> > having arrived in the US however, their point of view in re citizenship >> > often did a 180. Thus the irony that many who fled Prussia to avoid the >> > draft ended up enlisting in US Federal or CSA military units. >> > >> > One interesting sidebar of my research is the discovery that my >> > ancestors didn't even speak the same language as their Prussian >> > "countrymen". They spoke Plattedeutsch vice German. Also known as >> > Low-Saxon, this is a Germanic tongue more closely allied to Danish, >> > Dutch and English than to proper German. >> > >> > Cheers, Masugu >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > . >> > >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 9/5/2006 7:02:36 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, c 736@wideopenwest.com write PLEASE NO MORE E-MAILS IF I NEED SOMETHING I WELL ASK FOR IT

Did someone take their "nasty" pill twice today? Everyone knows when you use all capital letters that you are screaming. I just deleted four messages where you have screamed, me being one of them. Take two aspirin and call me in the morning!!!!! Carlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Brehm" <nikomahs@bellsouth.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Maps.. Maps.. Maps.. > iF YOU LOOK AT THE BODY OF THIS MAIL YOU'LL SEE YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS . YOU > CAN JUST CLICK ON THAT. you ARE GUILTY OF THE THING YOU JUST PROPOSED. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dlks" <dlks@harbornet.com> > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:26 PM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Maps.. Maps.. Maps.. > > >> HI Wolf >> >> Another "option" would be ... in the future ... to require that those >> interested send all requests for things like these ( maps, etc. ) >> DIRECTLY >> to the person(s) making the offer ... ? >> >> It's not a complicated operation to change the TO: line and enter the >> correct address ( mhaab@web.de in this case ) >> >> But ... people being what they are, it most likely is a "mission >> tmpossible" situation. >> >> Dick >> >> >> researching SCHWEISS, MEIER, SCHMIDT / SCHMITT >> Visit my website at: >> http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory2.htm >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wolf Zscheile" <saxonyroots@charter.net> >> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:43 PM >> Subject: [G-P-L] Maps.. Maps.. Maps.. >> >> >> > Hello All, >> > >> > was this ever a hectic weekend and quite a dis-appointment too.. >> > >> > Myri had the best intentions when she offered the maps to everyone >> > and, of course, nobody could expect such a flood of emails.. >> > >> > We had a lot of unsubscriptions to the list because of overflowing >> > mailboxes, which is, in my opinion, kind of short-sighted... >> > >> > We have over 1,000 subscribers to the list and if someone comes up >> > with a topic which interest everyone, then you could expect a lot of >> > emails.. Well, this is a mailinglist and there is nothing anyone can >> > do about it.. >> > >> > However, you have a few more options.. >> > ..You could change to the digest mode or >> > .. Be a little patient and use the delete button a bit more.. >> > .. or.... >> > >> > >> > for the time being I put the maps on a temporary website: >> > http://webpages.charter.net/saxonyroots/index >> > >> > and later on they will be moved to our WIKI, but you will be notified >> > of any changes. >> > >> > They are in a high resolution and you are able to zoom- in .. >> > >> > Have fun and a nice afternoon, >> > >> > Wolf >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com >> >> [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> >> Behalf Of Bob & Lori R >> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:58 PM >> >> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen >> >> >> >> >> >> Please supply Wolf's URL. >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "M. Haab" <mhaab@web.de> >> >> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:13 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Hessen >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi! >> >> > >> >> > The mass of emails was overwhelming! I' still speachless! I never >> >> > thought there was such a massive interest in those maps. As >> >> suggested, >> >> > I sent the maps to Wolf Zscheile, who will upload them to >> >> the >> >> > website. Thank you very much, Wolf! That's the best >> >> solution for all >> >> > of >> >> us. >> >> > >> >> > I apologise for having caused such rumours spamming the >> >> list. I hope >> >> > everyone was able to clean up his / her email account until now :-( >> >> > >> >> > If you have any questions please send me a PRIVATE EMAIL >> >> > (m.haab@web.de). >> >> > >> >> > Have a nice day, >> >> > Myri >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ------------------------------- >> >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> >> of the message >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> >> of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release >> >> Date: 9/4/2006 >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: >> > 9/4/2006 >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> > 'unsubscribe' >> > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

1930 census Pennsylvania, Berk, Spring Henry Borchardt--age 41--Germany--Immi 1924 Margaret wife---age 39--Germany--Immi 1925 Herta dau---age 18--Germany--Immi 1925--Her is very hard to read.??? Jerrald Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denise" <ladbine@earthlink.net> To: <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Hello > My name is Denise and I am looking for information on my > great-grandparents, > > HENRY CARL BORCHARDT and MARGARETHE HENRIETTE CATHARINE MARIA WESTPHAL > > They immigrated to the U.S. around 1924. > > My Great-granfather had a sister named CLARA married to a CARL WEIDEMAN(N) > that lived in New Jersey. They passed away and they had no children. My > father is an only child so finding information has been difficult. > > CLARA & CARL WEIDEMANN had friends in New Jersey That moved back to > Germany after their death. Their names are FREDA & WILLY SETZKORN. > > The are my great-granfather is from is BREDENEI (Bredeny), Essen > > and my great-grandmother is from LUBECK i believe. > > If anyone could help me I would appreciate it very much. > > Thank you!! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bette, Do you know what the 3 steps in the naturalization process were? Betty FL Hello "Masugu" (et al), I found your observations regarding emigration and Prussian conscription interesting. To add further to your posting, in my own research of extended family, I found it curious that an emigrant from Pomerania, born in 1836, would enlist at the age of 28 in the American Civil War in 1864, serve honorably and be "mustered out" at Vicksburg, MS in 1865. Having served the American military effort, on the side of the Union I might add, his honorable discharged earned him automatic American citizenship without his having to complete the *three step* Naturalization process, incurred by other immigrants who did not join the American military. In addition, this Prussian (Pomeranian) born immigrant is buried in the military section of a U.S.A. cemetery while his Prussian born wife's remains are located elsewhere in the same cemetery. For what it's worth. Bette

DON'T YOU READ YOUR E-MAIL CONTACT THE INDIVIDUAL DIRECT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula B. Adamson" <ubatrans@klondyke.net> To: <"Wayne Straight"@mail.rootsweb.com>; <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Conscription > Hello Masuga, > Some of your research appears to be flawed and I think it is not a good idea to fill the > heads of American researchers with stuff such as < "city states" such as Hessen, Hannover, > or Holstein>> that's just nonsense. I would suggest to anyone wanting to know about the > country/state of their ancestors that they 'google' around or else look it up in the > encyclopedia. > > You give people the impression that the only reason people left Germany/Prussia was to > escape conscription. That's absolutely not true....how else would you explain the millions > of single women who emigrated to the US because of the simple fact that they were not free > to marry i.e. unless the feudal landlord gave his permission. In addition, there was the > same potato plight in Germany in the late 1840s as the one that raged in Ireland. > > And your comments regarding the "platt-deutsch" a dialect that is still spoken in every > village in Germany from the Baltic and Atlantic all the way down to Baden and Bavaria even > to this day along with the standard 'high german' is just pure nonsense. Platt-deutsch has > nothing to do with Low Saxony, it is a 'spoken language' or 'dialect' that's different in > every German state. > When I visit my hometown in Hessen, I too speak 'platt-deutsch' with my peers and anyone > else who still remembers the local form of communication. > > Ursula from Michigan > > > > > > Wayne J. Straight wrote: > > Hi Folks; > > > > I did a good bit of research to try to understand why so many of my > > ancestors fled Schleswig-Holstein in the mid-19th Century. This led me > > to understand that up until the time of the Prussian takeover, most if > > not all Germans were citizens of "city states", such as Hessen, Hanover > > or Holstein. If a German peasant had any patriotic feelings at all they > > were to one of these city states, vice a German federation (chances are > > that any such loyalties went no further than the local village). Since > > the Prussians required registration for conscription at a very early age > > (15, if I remember correctly), and since the young men felt absolutely > > no loyalty to Prussia, many fled elsewhere to avoid the draft. Once > > having arrived in the US however, their point of view in re citizenship > > often did a 180. Thus the irony that many who fled Prussia to avoid the > > draft ended up enlisting in US Federal or CSA military units. > > > > One interesting sidebar of my research is the discovery that my > > ancestors didn't even speak the same language as their Prussian > > "countrymen". They spoke Plattedeutsch vice German. Also known as > > Low-Saxon, this is a Germanic tongue more closely allied to Danish, > > Dutch and English than to proper German. > > > > Cheers, Masugu > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > . > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message