I have much information on these folks here in the U.S. (Memphis). Marriage record from the church, cemetery records, etc. However, I am still looking for the wife, Elisabeth Steinmann Baumgartner (1st husband) Keller, during the years from 1864 when her husband (Joseph Keller) died until 1874 when she died. I am particularly concerned about her because my grandfather, Charles Keller, was probably with her. He was 7 years old when his father died and 17 when his mother died. I have no trace of him from the1860 census until he shows up on the 1880 Texas Census when he is 23 yrs. old. It has been suggested that she remarried. I guess that's possible, but she was buried beside Joseph Keller in Memphis and her stone bears the name "Keller". I think the amount of information in church records is somewhat dependent on the priest at who was there at the time. I, too have found copious information sometimes, but Elisabeth and Joseph's record - as information was copied for me - didn't show much. They would not make a copy of the document because it was in such poor condition. I sincerely thank you folks for your efforts on my behalf. Anything else you can think of would be appreciated. --Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Mensi" <cmensi@midsouth.rr.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Kellers/Steinmann from Switzerland & Germany > Try the archives here: > > TNSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > > Catherine Wells Mensi > > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Susan > Clark > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:23 AM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Kellers/Steinmann from Switzerland & Germany > > Hi, Evelyn, > > Do you know the church at which he married in Memphis? I've found > that if > the church was "German" (served a German immigrant population), the > marriage > > records were very complete, including the town the person was from. > > Susan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Evelyn W." <ewicke@gvec.net> > To: <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:16 AM > Subject: [G-P-L] Kellers/Steinmann from Switzerland & Germany > > >> Hello -- I have been looking for my ancestors trip across to the New >> World for several years without success. Part of the problem is a >> very >> common name, Joseph Keller, which I am told is the 6th most common >> name >> in Switzerland. Here's what I know: >> >> Joseph KELLER born about 1820 in Switzerland, married Elisabeth >> Steinmann 1845 in Memphis, Tennessee, died 1864, buried in Memphis, >> Tennessee. Parents: John J. Keller & Verena Klingenfuss. >> >> Don't know when Joseph came across. And "John J." is undoubtedly >> the >> anglicized version of his father's name. >> >> His sister, Anna Marie Elisabeth Keller emigrated from Switzerland in >> 1856. She uses the name "Elizabeth" and sometimes "Louisa". >> >> There is a George Keller who appears in Memphis in 1855. I believe >> he >> is a brother to the other two. He may have been in the U.S. earlier >> than 1855. >> >> If anyone can help me locate these folks on passenger lists, I would >> appreciate it. I understand that most Swiss emigrants traveled up >> the >> Rhine to one of the German ports to embark on their journey to >> America. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Julie, There was a Hornung Brewery on Allegheny Ave in Philadelphia in 1900. I believe the fellow's name was Jacob Hornung...as far as I know he wasn't related to my great grandfather who lived a few blocks away on same street. I believe Jacob died in the influenza eqidemic in the early 1900's. Good luck with your search Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie" <juls92627@yahoo.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning Thanks! I've tried message boards, and no one matches mine. :(. If they say Horning and Bavaria I've probably emailed them, lol I wished yours matched mine! that would have been awesome. the only things I can think of are one of the Margaret's death cert, or marriage (the mother may have remarried) or John's marriage (haven't been able to find one) and his death - I found 2 possibles and have asked for copies. the only other thing I can think of is Germans to America, and my local library doesn't have it (I'll look around) but I don't know how much that will help since I don't know when they got to America. before 1840 is all I know for sure. thank you!!! ps on the plus side, Jacob ended up being a brewmaster in Kentucky/Indiana area(Louisville/New Albany) and had his own pub for a few years before he died!!! julie Marie Van Laeys <njtransplant@cox.net> wrote: Julie & Rosemarie, My Hornings/Hornungs arrived in NY in 1844 aboard the ship Rose (spelling Horning) they ended up in Pottsville PA, Margaretha Pauline Hornung (23 yrs) married within a couple of weeks after her arrival and John A Hornung married in 1846 to Margaretha's sister-in-law (Margaret Tersea Reinhardt). Other's arrived one being about 1850 (a brother) shown in the 1850 census but not legible. John died in 1862 yet another brother Michael arrived after John's death (about 1862) along with his wife and three children...all settled in Pottsville. The spelling thru-out the census was not consistent but I was familiar with their residence when living in Philadelphia and found them spelled (Horning). I've traced these Hornungs to Gartenbach which I believe is the same as Großenluder part of Fulda. There is a message board on rootsweb for Hornung/Horning perhaps that would be a place to inquire if you haven't already. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Keen" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning > Julie, > > I'm a descendant of Peter Anton Hornig of Bavaria. I have found the name > spelled Horning, Hoernig and Hornig. Our line settled in Washington D C > and > Baltimore and then on to Philadelphia. Try Germans to America at you > Library. They may have been listed. Our Hornig's arrived in 1854. > > Good Luck, > Rosemarie, Lancaster, PA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:59 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning > > >> Hello - my name is Julie and I need help :D >> >> I am trying to trace back my ancestors and I'm stuck. I know they came >> from Bavaria (census) but other than that I'm SOL. This is what I have >> >> Margaret and ? Horning/Hornung had their first child John in 1840 in >> Kentucky (have no clue what city) >> They had their second, Jacob and third, Margaret in Missouri. >> On the 1850 St. Louis, MO census it lists the children and the mother - >> no father >> then Jacob goes to Kentucky (1860 census) and pretty much stays in that >> area KY/IN. >> Jacob's death cert, (1889) doesn't have any info. >> >> I have no idea where Margaret ended up. >> I think I might have found John on the 1880 census, and it stated >> widower, but I don't know when he died or where (I'm thinking he might >> have stayed in the St. Louis area) >> There is a John Henry Horning probate 1849 on the MO website, but it >> doesn't list a wife and I think it's the same from another list which has >> him as being 29 in 1850, which would have him as 19 when John was born, >> so >> possible, but only kind of probable - don't you think? >> >> Does anyone know, or can suggest where they would have landed? Was this >> a normal route? Why the Kentucky to Missouri route? Both locations seem >> to have a strong German population, was this normal back then? What >> religion they might have been? (my dad's family was catholic, but back >> then??) I have no clue if they married here or there? Came over >> together >> or seperately? Any and all help would help. Thank you >> >> Julie >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. 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Thanks! I've tried message boards, and no one matches mine. :(. If they say Horning and Bavaria I've probably emailed them, lol I wished yours matched mine! that would have been awesome. the only things I can think of are one of the Margaret's death cert, or marriage (the mother may have remarried) or John's marriage (haven't been able to find one) and his death - I found 2 possibles and have asked for copies. the only other thing I can think of is Germans to America, and my local library doesn't have it (I'll look around) but I don't know how much that will help since I don't know when they got to America. before 1840 is all I know for sure. thank you!!! ps on the plus side, Jacob ended up being a brewmaster in Kentucky/Indiana area(Louisville/New Albany) and had his own pub for a few years before he died!!! julie Marie Van Laeys <njtransplant@cox.net> wrote: Julie & Rosemarie, My Hornings/Hornungs arrived in NY in 1844 aboard the ship Rose (spelling Horning) they ended up in Pottsville PA, Margaretha Pauline Hornung (23 yrs) married within a couple of weeks after her arrival and John A Hornung married in 1846 to Margaretha's sister-in-law (Margaret Tersea Reinhardt). Other's arrived one being about 1850 (a brother) shown in the 1850 census but not legible. John died in 1862 yet another brother Michael arrived after John's death (about 1862) along with his wife and three children...all settled in Pottsville. The spelling thru-out the census was not consistent but I was familiar with their residence when living in Philadelphia and found them spelled (Horning). I've traced these Hornungs to Gartenbach which I believe is the same as Großenluder part of Fulda. There is a message board on rootsweb for Hornung/Horning perhaps that would be a place to inquire if you haven't already. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Keen" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning > Julie, > > I'm a descendant of Peter Anton Hornig of Bavaria. I have found the name > spelled Horning, Hoernig and Hornig. Our line settled in Washington D C > and > Baltimore and then on to Philadelphia. Try Germans to America at you > Library. They may have been listed. Our Hornig's arrived in 1854. > > Good Luck, > Rosemarie, Lancaster, PA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:59 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning > > >> Hello - my name is Julie and I need help :D >> >> I am trying to trace back my ancestors and I'm stuck. I know they came >> from Bavaria (census) but other than that I'm SOL. This is what I have >> >> Margaret and ? Horning/Hornung had their first child John in 1840 in >> Kentucky (have no clue what city) >> They had their second, Jacob and third, Margaret in Missouri. >> On the 1850 St. Louis, MO census it lists the children and the mother - >> no father >> then Jacob goes to Kentucky (1860 census) and pretty much stays in that >> area KY/IN. >> Jacob's death cert, (1889) doesn't have any info. >> >> I have no idea where Margaret ended up. >> I think I might have found John on the 1880 census, and it stated >> widower, but I don't know when he died or where (I'm thinking he might >> have stayed in the St. Louis area) >> There is a John Henry Horning probate 1849 on the MO website, but it >> doesn't list a wife and I think it's the same from another list which has >> him as being 29 in 1850, which would have him as 19 when John was born, >> so >> possible, but only kind of probable - don't you think? >> >> Does anyone know, or can suggest where they would have landed? Was this >> a normal route? Why the Kentucky to Missouri route? Both locations seem >> to have a strong German population, was this normal back then? What >> religion they might have been? (my dad's family was catholic, but back >> then??) I have no clue if they married here or there? Came over >> together >> or seperately? Any and all help would help. Thank you >> >> Julie >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

Masugu, Thanks for the website. Will give it a try Wish me luck!!! Also, thanks for the info on Hermann Harter. Ramona ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne J. Straight" <woichi01@comcast.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 48 > Hi Ramona; > > Have you tried contacting the NYC Office of Vital Records > (home2.nyc.gov/html/doh/)? Once there, do a search for the appropriate > certificates. You should be able to order what you need. Cheers, Masugu > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 >

The oldest child, John, would have been 10 at the 1850 census, so I think she was still the head of the household. and on that census it has John as born in KY. I can't find him in the 1860, and I was thinking he might be out fighting the Civil War. Thanks SO much for looking!!! Yesterday I ordered 2 death certs of John Horning and 1 of Margaret from MO, so maybe one of those is my people. crossing fingers. Can you think of a way to find John in KY in 1840? thanks for everything julie Susan Clark <susan.g.clark@comcast.net> wrote: Julie, I'd guess that Margaret lived with one of her children, especially a daughter, after her husband died. If you have any idea of the married names of any daughters, you can try searching for them in the census and see if Margaret shows up. Is it possible that their first son was born in Germany? I found a John Hornung born 1840 in Burundi (actually Bavaria if you look at the original census) in Kenton, KY. If this is a possibility, then this would probably be his death information: Name: John Horning Death Date: 21 June , 1928 Death Place: Kenton Age: 091 Volume: 31 Certificate: 15483 Maybe this death certificate would give the father's name. It's unusual that it didn't in Jacob's case. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie" To: Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning > Hello - my name is Julie and I need help :D > > I am trying to trace back my ancestors and I'm stuck. I know they came > from Bavaria (census) but other than that I'm SOL. This is what I have > > Margaret and ? Horning/Hornung had their first child John in 1840 in > Kentucky (have no clue what city) > They had their second, Jacob and third, Margaret in Missouri. > On the 1850 St. Louis, MO census it lists the children and the mother - > no father > then Jacob goes to Kentucky (1860 census) and pretty much stays in that > area KY/IN. > Jacob's death cert, (1889) doesn't have any info. > > I have no idea where Margaret ended up. > I think I might have found John on the 1880 census, and it stated > widower, but I don't know when he died or where (I'm thinking he might > have stayed in the St. Louis area) > There is a John Henry Horning probate 1849 on the MO website, but it > doesn't list a wife and I think it's the same from another list which has > him as being 29 in 1850, which would have him as 19 when John was born, so > possible, but only kind of probable - don't you think? > > Does anyone know, or can suggest where they would have landed? Was this > a normal route? Why the Kentucky to Missouri route? Both locations seem > to have a strong German population, was this normal back then? What > religion they might have been? (my dad's family was catholic, but back > then??) I have no clue if they married here or there? Came over together > or seperately? Any and all help would help. Thank you > > Julie > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

Send me what info you have on those is Lafayette and I will try to look them up for you this winter. We spend our winters in Lafayette and it is easy to get around. Disregard this msg, if you have made other arrangements. ellen --------------

Ellen, Thank you so much for your reply,I do not have much more information. My g grandfather, Jean(John)M.Courrege was a butcher in N. O., I was told he worked in the French Quarter Market area. Elizabeth and John's first son (my grandfather, Bertrand) was born in Iberia, the second son was born in St. James Parish, at least that is some information I have, not sure it is correct. Not really much more info than what I originally sent to the List Members. I would be most grateful if you can find any info in Lafayette this winter. Thanks again, Gayle in N. J. -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of bruce.mckown@att.net Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:43 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com; Germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Cc: jschengrund@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Elizabeth Schumer Courrege Send me what info you have on those is Lafayette and I will try to look them up for you this winter. We spend our winters in Lafayette and it is easy to get around. Disregard this msg, if you have made other arrangements. ellen -------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think this is a good question for all - I'd be happy for input as to organizing generations. So far I have put my generations in binders as well as being stored on my computer, but if someone has an easier way, I'd love to hear it. Thanks. Velda

Ebever, there are quite a few programs available, some of them can be downloaded for FREE from the internet.. here are two of them: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp?Page=home/welcome/simplePAFRegis tration.asp or: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ once you get used of them, you may be asking yourself how you have done things without them.. and, of course, don't forget to enter your data into our: http://www.saxonyroots.com/Ancestors_Database Good luck with your further research, Wolf [Zscheile] ******************************************** Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS http://www.saxonyroots.com ******************************************** > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of beeves > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:13 PM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G-P-L] Organizing 6 generations > > > I have a question (send answers to my email address so we > don't overload our list) My question is-- What is the best > route to follow to put 6 > generations of family research into a family book. I have much of my > family tree broken down into 6 generations on my fathers > side. I have 6 > individual files. Is their a special guide to follow and > where can > I find the guide. THANK YOU Ebever -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/445 - Release Date: 9/11/2006

I would like information regarding Silesia and Prussia. Some of my ancestors are from Seitendorf, Silesia/Germany/Prussia depending upon what regard you read. I also understand that there are 4 Seitendorf's which makes it almost impossible to find out which Kreis they were in. Thank for the information, Jan ******************** Malte, Thank you for your contribution. Would you be able to further define the "Kingdom of Prussia (without the provinces of Posen, East- and Westprussia)" that was part of "The German Confederation 1815 - 1871". Best wishes, Bette Last days i read about the some difficulties to find the difference between Germany and Prussia. Germany, as we know it today, has been formed in 1871 when the German Empire (The 2nd Empire) was formed. After both World Wars Germany lost about 1/3 of the area: German Empire 1871 = 208000 sq.miles, Germany today = 138000 sq.miles. Prussia always was a part of the German Empire. ********* The German Confederation 1815 - 1871 The German Confederation embraced ca. 243243 sq.miles with ca. 29 millions inhabitants. Founder members of the German Confederation were: . Empire of Austria incl. Bohemia and Moravia (but without Kingdom of Hungary, Kingdom of Venice, Provinces of Galicia, Croatia & Bosnia-Herzegowina) . Kingdom of Prussia (without the provinces of Posen, East- and Westprussia)

Hi List Members, Help from anyone on the list would be appreciated. I have been trying to find information on my g grandmother for about 4 years, the only thing I have is a death certificate. Her name was Elizabeth Schumer, she came from Germany. I got a ship passenger list from the National Archives which list an Elizab Schumer with her mother, Marge, father Nicol and sisters Anna and Marie. They came on Ship Denis, Place of origin, Luxemburg, they came to Castle Garden in N. Y., 22 NOV 1855. I hope this is my Schumer family. One other piece of info is from LDS, Elisabeth Schumer, Birth, About 1834 of, Leipzig, Sachsen, Death, After 1854. These dates are very close to dates for my Elizabeth. My g grandmother married Jean(John) Martin Courrege, he came to N. O. LA, from France in 1845. Elizabeth must have gone to LA right away, because they married and lived in Arabi where my grandfather was born in 1856 - 1857, his name was Bertrand John Courrege, he had a younger brother named Simon Octave who became an M.D. In New Orleans. My problem is this; 1. I have not been able to find out where Elizabeth came from, other than Germany 2. A marriage license for Elizabeth and John 3. A birth certificate for my grandfather. Elizabeth died in 1865 in N. O. LA, and I think I have found her grave in Lafayette Cem #1. John died in 1910 in N. O. but am not positive where he is buried. Help from anyone will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Gayle in N. J. jschengrund@earthlink.net

Try the archives here: TNSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com Catherine Wells Mensi -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Clark Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:23 AM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Kellers/Steinmann from Switzerland & Germany Hi, Evelyn, Do you know the church at which he married in Memphis? I've found that if the church was "German" (served a German immigrant population), the marriage records were very complete, including the town the person was from. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn W." <ewicke@gvec.net> To: <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 12:16 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Kellers/Steinmann from Switzerland & Germany > Hello -- I have been looking for my ancestors trip across to the New > World for several years without success. Part of the problem is a very > common name, Joseph Keller, which I am told is the 6th most common name > in Switzerland. Here's what I know: > > Joseph KELLER born about 1820 in Switzerland, married Elisabeth > Steinmann 1845 in Memphis, Tennessee, died 1864, buried in Memphis, > Tennessee. Parents: John J. Keller & Verena Klingenfuss. > > Don't know when Joseph came across. And "John J." is undoubtedly the > anglicized version of his father's name. > > His sister, Anna Marie Elisabeth Keller emigrated from Switzerland in > 1856. She uses the name "Elizabeth" and sometimes "Louisa". > > There is a George Keller who appears in Memphis in 1855. I believe he > is a brother to the other two. He may have been in the U.S. earlier > than 1855. > > If anyone can help me locate these folks on passenger lists, I would > appreciate it. I understand that most Swiss emigrants traveled up the > Rhine to one of the German ports to embark on their journey to America. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a question (send answers to my email address so we don't overload our list) My question is-- What is the best route to follow to put 6 generations of family research into a family book. I have much of my family tree broken down into 6 generations on my fathers side. I have 6 individual files. Is their a special guide to follow and where can I find the guide. THANK YOU Ebever

Jacque I found a record for Peter KRAFT that's very close. He was traveling with wife Johanna and daughter Elizabeth. Susan Name: Peter Kraft Arrival Date: 9 Nov 1852 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Age: 25 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Le Havre, France Destination: New York Place of Origin: Baden Ship Name: Tennessee Port of Arrival: New York Line: 5 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: 121 List Number: 1530 Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rmomba@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Peter Kroft >I am looking for a Peter Kroft (while in this country went by Peter Croft). > According to his Intent papers he left LeHavre, France and arrived in New > York > on Dec 15, 1852. His allegiance was to Napoleon. Family members state he > was > from Alsace-Lorraine area, but I have not proof. > > I have checked Germans to America and did not find him. I have checked > other > microfilm with no luck. > > Anyone have any suggestions where to look next. > > Thanks > > Jacque Wallingford > _Rmomba@aol.com_ (mailto:Rmomba@aol.com) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Julie, I'm a descendant of Peter Anton Hornig of Bavaria. I have found the name spelled Horning, Hoernig and Hornig. Our line settled in Washington D C and Baltimore and then on to Philadelphia. Try Germans to America at you Library. They may have been listed. Our Hornig's arrived in 1854. Good Luck, Rosemarie, Lancaster, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie" <juls92627@yahoo.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning > Hello - my name is Julie and I need help :D > > I am trying to trace back my ancestors and I'm stuck. I know they came > from Bavaria (census) but other than that I'm SOL. This is what I have > > Margaret and ? Horning/Hornung had their first child John in 1840 in > Kentucky (have no clue what city) > They had their second, Jacob and third, Margaret in Missouri. > On the 1850 St. Louis, MO census it lists the children and the mother - > no father > then Jacob goes to Kentucky (1860 census) and pretty much stays in that > area KY/IN. > Jacob's death cert, (1889) doesn't have any info. > > I have no idea where Margaret ended up. > I think I might have found John on the 1880 census, and it stated > widower, but I don't know when he died or where (I'm thinking he might > have stayed in the St. Louis area) > There is a John Henry Horning probate 1849 on the MO website, but it > doesn't list a wife and I think it's the same from another list which has > him as being 29 in 1850, which would have him as 19 when John was born, so > possible, but only kind of probable - don't you think? > > Does anyone know, or can suggest where they would have landed? Was this > a normal route? Why the Kentucky to Missouri route? Both locations seem > to have a strong German population, was this normal back then? What > religion they might have been? (my dad's family was catholic, but back > then??) I have no clue if they married here or there? Came over together > or seperately? Any and all help would help. Thank you > > Julie > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am looking for a Peter Kroft (while in this country went by Peter Croft). According to his Intent papers he left LeHavre, France and arrived in New York on Dec 15, 1852. His allegiance was to Napoleon. Family members state he was from Alsace-Lorraine area, but I have not proof. I have checked Germans to America and did not find him. I have checked other microfilm with no luck. Anyone have any suggestions where to look next. Thanks Jacque Wallingford _Rmomba@aol.com_ (mailto:Rmomba@aol.com)

On Sep 12, 2006, at 10:02 AM, germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Hi. The early 1850's saw the arrival of 4 Kellers to Buffalo > County, WI from the Canton Schaffhausen. As this was the time period > of my ggrandmother's arrival in New York they well may have left from > LeHarve, France also. However many in that time period arrived > through New Orleans. > > > >> , Joseph Keller, which I am told is the 6th most common name >> in Switzerland. > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > >

Maybe this one didn't go on to Missouri? Ship Name: Neckar Name: Heinr Kruse Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany and Southampton, England Arrival Date: 7 Dec. 1881 Port of Arrival: New York Birth Year: approx. 1860 Age: 21 Gender: Male Destination: St Louis, MO, U.S.A. Place of Origin: Mecklenburg;Germany Occupation: Farmer Microfilm Series/Roll: M237_445; List Number: 1676; Line 6 New York National Archives and Record Administration, Wash., D.C. - Ship Name: Henry Edge Name: Heinrich Kruse Arrival Date: 9 Jun 1881 Port of Arrival: New York, NY, U.S. Birth Year: approx. 1855 Age: 26 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium Destination: U.S.A. Place of Origin: Germany Location on board: Steerage Microfilm Series/Roll: M237_438; List No. 754; Line 15 - 1883 arrival too late? Ship Name: Silesia Name: Heinrich Kruse Arrival Date: 16 July 1883 Port of Arrival: New York Birth Year: approx. 1858 Age: 25 Gender: Male Port of Departure: Hamburg, Germany Destination: U.S.A. Place of Origin: Hamburg Occuaption: "sagarmaker" Microfilm Series/Roll: M237_468; List No. 892, Line # 11 ___ These 3 seem closest of what dates you listed. But am sure there may be many others with the same names not on Internet lists yet. He could have filed his Declaration of Intent Papers in Cincinnati. Did you check there too? Many filed one place but just moved on somewhere else. Can you narrow down the year to when he was in Cincinnati by their city directories or tax rolls? Just suggestions to pinpoint his arrival in the U.S. with the Immigration Date on the Census. Regards, Kathleen ____________________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billie Brem" <bbrem@hot.rr.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: [G-P-L] G-P-L Germany Passenger Lists I am searching for immigration of Heinrich Kruse, born 17 Dec 1858. Died 21 October 1903 1900 US census Texas, McLennan Co. states he came to US in 1881 from Prussia. Final Naturalization papers just state from Germany are dated 21 Oct 1892, in McLennan County, Texas. No Declaration of Intent has been found.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Julie & Rosemarie, My Hornings/Hornungs arrived in NY in 1844 aboard the ship Rose (spelling Horning) they ended up in Pottsville PA, Margaretha Pauline Hornung (23 yrs) married within a couple of weeks after her arrival and John A Hornung married in 1846 to Margaretha's sister-in-law (Margaret Tersea Reinhardt). Other's arrived one being about 1850 (a brother) shown in the 1850 census but not legible. John died in 1862 yet another brother Michael arrived after John's death (about 1862) along with his wife and three children...all settled in Pottsville. The spelling thru-out the census was not consistent but I was familiar with their residence when living in Philadelphia and found them spelled (Horning). I've traced these Hornungs to Gartenbach which I believe is the same as Großenluder part of Fulda. There is a message board on rootsweb for Hornung/Horning perhaps that would be a place to inquire if you haven't already. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Keen" <mckelvey5@verizon.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning > Julie, > > I'm a descendant of Peter Anton Hornig of Bavaria. I have found the name > spelled Horning, Hoernig and Hornig. Our line settled in Washington D C > and > Baltimore and then on to Philadelphia. Try Germans to America at you > Library. They may have been listed. Our Hornig's arrived in 1854. > > Good Luck, > Rosemarie, Lancaster, PA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julie" <juls92627@yahoo.com> > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:59 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning > > >> Hello - my name is Julie and I need help :D >> >> I am trying to trace back my ancestors and I'm stuck. I know they came >> from Bavaria (census) but other than that I'm SOL. This is what I have >> >> Margaret and ? Horning/Hornung had their first child John in 1840 in >> Kentucky (have no clue what city) >> They had their second, Jacob and third, Margaret in Missouri. >> On the 1850 St. Louis, MO census it lists the children and the mother - >> no father >> then Jacob goes to Kentucky (1860 census) and pretty much stays in that >> area KY/IN. >> Jacob's death cert, (1889) doesn't have any info. >> >> I have no idea where Margaret ended up. >> I think I might have found John on the 1880 census, and it stated >> widower, but I don't know when he died or where (I'm thinking he might >> have stayed in the St. Louis area) >> There is a John Henry Horning probate 1849 on the MO website, but it >> doesn't list a wife and I think it's the same from another list which has >> him as being 29 in 1850, which would have him as 19 when John was born, >> so >> possible, but only kind of probable - don't you think? >> >> Does anyone know, or can suggest where they would have landed? Was this >> a normal route? Why the Kentucky to Missouri route? Both locations seem >> to have a strong German population, was this normal back then? What >> religion they might have been? (my dad's family was catholic, but back >> then??) I have no clue if they married here or there? Came over >> together >> or seperately? Any and all help would help. Thank you >> >> Julie >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Barb. I had that e-m nicely spaced and when it came back it was just a glob that's hard to read. Am Main means on the Main River. Barbara Dooley At 08:52 PM 9/11/2006, you wrote: > >Trying to answer my questions about the differences in all the >Hesse-Hessen's. This is what Webster (dictionary) says about Hesse - >Hessen: >(What does 'am Main' mean after Frankfurt?) >Hesse, variant or German, Hessen >1 region W central Germany N of Baden-Württemberg, divided into >Hesse-Darmstadt (in the S) & Hesse-Cassel (in the N), the latter being >united with