Hello Robert, they usually used smaller vessels to carry people from Bremen to Bremerhaven on the river Weser. Robert Houser wrote: > Help, would someone help me on this? My ancestors left Bremen Germany in the spring of 1871 to come to New York. When i look at the map the only water is Weser river. Was this river large enough for ships or did they actual leave from Bemerhaven which is on on coast. Thanks Robert > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > . >

Hi all, this is probably not the forum to ask this, but if I want to obtain a birth certificate where can I look for the volume and or folio no. I am looking for Ferdinand Frei born 18 November 1854, I think his parents were Jakob and Mary. Unsure where to start. Thanks Jeanette Seeds

Hi There I am trying to locate th ship my great grandfather John MULLER emigrated on from Germany. He eventually settled in New Zealand but I am not sure which route the ship he was on would have taken to arrive in New Zealand or which port he would have departed from. He was born in Kaiserslautern, Germany c1837 and arrived in New Zealand c1856. Any help would be really appreciated as I am researching my family history and cannot find anything on this important branch of my family. Kind Regards Tracy (New Zealand)

Help, would someone help me on this? My ancestors left Bremen Germany in the spring of 1871 to come to New York. When i look at the map the only water is Weser river. Was this river large enough for ships or did they actual leave from Bemerhaven which is on on coast. Thanks Robert

Susan, This is as far as I have gotten. I guess I was hoping someone could pick up from here. I appreciate your reply. Any suggestions? Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Clark" <susan.g.clark@comcast.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LUDWIG LOUIS PREISEL ANDELIZABETH NEIHEISEL > Hello, Mary, > > I think Ludwig and his family have already been researched! Go to > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp and enter > Ludwig > Preisel and Germany. The second entry seems to be yours. His parents are > given. The dates are a bit off, but I have no doubt they're yours. > > Susan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <madess@adelphia.net> > To: <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:43 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LUDWIG LOUIS PREISEL AND > ELIZABETH NEIHEISEL > > >>I am hoping someone can help. LUDWIG LOUIS PREISEL was my g g grandfather >>from somewhere in Germany. He was born in 1857 and married ELIZABETH >>NEIHEISEL OR NEUHEUSEL ( birth 1861) in ZELL, Germany on Feb 12, 1882. >>They immigrated to New York on April 22, 1882 on the ship Braunschweig and >>settled in Pennsylvania or Ohio. Elizabeth's parents were PETER ( birth >>Dec. 8, 1816) AND ELIZABETH MARIA FRISCH (birth April 12, 1822). I think >>they were from Rhineland, Pfaltz, Germany. They were possibly married in >>1844 in Waldmohr, Rhineland, Germany. My German geography is not the >>best, >>so hope I have these right. >> >> I do not know "anything" about Ludwig's family. I have been given tons >> of >> information about the Nieheisel by a very nice person. >> >> Can anyone help me with this? I do not know where to start. Does anyone >> know where I could find birth information on him? Thanks soooooo much. >> You can email me direct at www.madess@adelphia.net Mary >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thomas, My husband ancestors include man who immigrated from Germany in 1727 and lived in Heidelberg Twp., York, PA. The family later moved to Fredrick, MD, about 1758. The family was Brethren, and there was a Brethren community established in MD. There is a Brethren listserv on Rootsweb, and I have a few resources to suggest if you would like to explore this possibility. Contact me directly. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas sternthal" <sterntj@hotmail.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:30 PM Subject: [G-P-L] BOCK FAMILY 1731 LOOK-UP PLEASE > I've found a BOCK family that came over to the United states in 1731 on > the > ship Brittinnia of London out of Rotterdam. They had a son by the name of > Hans Michael Bock, In 1731 he was one or two years old. I believe this > family may have moved to Pa. When this Hans Michael Bock grew up I believe > he may have had a son by the name of Michael Bock that was in the Rev. War > and this Michael Bock was born in Fredricktown, Md. in 1757/1758 and this > Michael Bock married a Margaret Crowser. What I need to know is was Hans > Michael Bock the father of Michael Bock, is there any help out there for > me, > where do I look for the answers. I know that records were few and I hope > that this family kept records with the church or with the courts. I think > that this family may have been Lutheren, but I'm not sure of anything at > this point. Please e-mail me at sterntj@hotmail.com > > Thank You > > Kathy in Elizabethtown, N.C. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, Mary, I think Ludwig and his family have already been researched! Go to http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp and enter Ludwig Preisel and Germany. The second entry seems to be yours. His parents are given. The dates are a bit off, but I have no doubt they're yours. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: <madess@adelphia.net> To: <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: [G-P-L] ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LUDWIG LOUIS PREISEL AND ELIZABETH NEIHEISEL >I am hoping someone can help. LUDWIG LOUIS PREISEL was my g g grandfather >from somewhere in Germany. He was born in 1857 and married ELIZABETH >NEIHEISEL OR NEUHEUSEL ( birth 1861) in ZELL, Germany on Feb 12, 1882. >They immigrated to New York on April 22, 1882 on the ship Braunschweig and >settled in Pennsylvania or Ohio. Elizabeth's parents were PETER ( birth >Dec. 8, 1816) AND ELIZABETH MARIA FRISCH (birth April 12, 1822). I think >they were from Rhineland, Pfaltz, Germany. They were possibly married in >1844 in Waldmohr, Rhineland, Germany. My German geography is not the best, >so hope I have these right. > > I do not know "anything" about Ludwig's family. I have been given tons of > information about the Nieheisel by a very nice person. > > Can anyone help me with this? I do not know where to start. Does anyone > know where I could find birth information on him? Thanks soooooo much. > You can email me direct at www.madess@adelphia.net Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've found a BOCK family that came over to the United states in 1731 on the ship Brittinnia of London out of Rotterdam. They had a son by the name of Hans Michael Bock, In 1731 he was one or two years old. I believe this family may have moved to Pa. When this Hans Michael Bock grew up I believe he may have had a son by the name of Michael Bock that was in the Rev. War and this Michael Bock was born in Fredricktown, Md. in 1757/1758 and this Michael Bock married a Margaret Crowser. What I need to know is was Hans Michael Bock the father of Michael Bock, is there any help out there for me, where do I look for the answers. I know that records were few and I hope that this family kept records with the church or with the courts. I think that this family may have been Lutheren, but I'm not sure of anything at this point. Please e-mail me at sterntj@hotmail.com Thank You Kathy in Elizabethtown, N.C.

Hi Betty, I really don't understand your question.. You only get the contents as an attachment, when you receive your messages in the 'Digest' AND 'MIME' mode.. But you are getting your messages in 'plain text' mode and then this should not be the case.. Please send me a copy of a message and then I might be able to find out what is going on.. Have a nice evening, Wolf [Zscheile] ******************************************** Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS http://www.saxonyroots.com ******************************************** > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Betty & Gerhard > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:30 PM > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G-P-L] Attachments > > > Why does each email recently have it's contents also in an attachment? > > Betty Becker -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006

Why does each email recently have it's contents also in an attachment? Betty Becker

If they were Catholic, it is very likely that the LDS Family History Center can order a microfilm of church record (or maybe other religions as well) which can be invaluable. At any rate they have a wealth of sources if you have not already tried them. It is open to people of all beliefs.....I was able to find an incredible amount of info on film in a very short time...with a lot of work!! Good luck, Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: <madess@adelphia.net> To: <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: [G-P-L] ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LUDWIG LOUIS PREISEL AND ELIZABETH NEIHEISEL >I am hoping someone can help. LUDWIG LOUIS PREISEL was my g g grandfather >from somewhere in Germany. He was born in 1857 and married ELIZABETH >NEIHEISEL OR NEUHEUSEL ( birth 1861) in ZELL, Germany on Feb 12, 1882. >They immigrated to New York on April 22, 1882 on the ship Braunschweig and >settled in Pennsylvania or Ohio. Elizabeth's parents were PETER ( birth >Dec. 8, 1816) AND ELIZABETH MARIA FRISCH (birth April 12, 1822). I think >they were from Rhineland, Pfaltz, Germany. They were possibly married in >1844 in Waldmohr, Rhineland, Germany. My German geography is not the best, >so hope I have these right. > > I do not know "anything" about Ludwig's family. I have been given tons of > information about the Nieheisel by a very nice person. > > Can anyone help me with this? I do not know where to start. Does anyone > know where I could find birth information on him? Thanks soooooo much. > You can email me direct at www.madess@adelphia.net Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Marge, It's not as simple as looking up an immigrant on the passenger list, especially since early arrivals never give a date of birth but only an approxiate age. I always want to check first where they settled after they came here, perhaps she followed another family member. No woman would up and leave her home country without knowing in advance where she was going to live after she got there. Perhaps you can provide some vital information such as: Is "Grün/Gruen" her maiden name? What reason do you have to believe that she came to Buffalo? Whom did she marry after she came here? Where did she live? Ursula Marge Ganser-Heibel wrote: > I have been unable to find any info re: Catharine Grun (umlat) /Gruen/Green's immigration. My great grandmother was born 26 July 1820 > > in Mettendorf (Eifel) Germany. Her destination was probably Buffalo Erie NY and sailing date 1853 (?).....may have sailed from Antwerp. > > Will appreciate any ideas since I have been searching for months! > > Thank you, Marge > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > . >

Thanks for the reply: Grun was her maiden name. An assumption.....she joined her future husband, Simon Ganser (from Mettendorf also) who immigrated 26 April 1852.....Antwerp to New York aboard the Elizabeth Denison. She may have come with another family member but have not determined that. Her father's name was Peter Grun and there may be a brother by the same name. Simon's destination was Buffalo Erie NY and they lived in Clarence Erie near Buffalo after marriage 25 Oct 1856 at St. Mary's RC church in Swormville Erie NY and in 1869 moved to North Fork Delaware Iowa. Thanks again, Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula B. Adamson" <ubatrans@klondyke.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Passenger from Germany Hello Marge, It's not as simple as looking up an immigrant on the passenger list, especially since early arrivals never give a date of birth but only an approxiate age. I always want to check first where they settled after they came here, perhaps she followed another family member. No woman would up and leave her home country without knowing in advance where she was going to live after she got there. Perhaps you can provide some vital information such as: Is "Grün/Gruen" her maiden name? What reason do you have to believe that she came to Buffalo? Whom did she marry after she came here? Where did she live? Ursula Marge Ganser-Heibel wrote: > I have been unable to find any info re: Catharine Grun (umlat) > /Gruen/Green's immigration. My great grandmother was born 26 July 1820 > > in Mettendorf (Eifel) Germany. Her destination was probably Buffalo Erie > NY and sailing date 1853 (?).....may have sailed from Antwerp. > > Will appreciate any ideas since I have been searching for months! > > Thank you, Marge > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > . > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been unable to find any info re: Catharine Grun (umlat) /Gruen/Green's immigration. My great grandmother was born 26 July 1820 in Mettendorf (Eifel) Germany. Her destination was probably Buffalo Erie NY and sailing date 1853 (?).....may have sailed from Antwerp. Will appreciate any ideas since I have been searching for months! Thank you, Marge

Hello Marge, You wrote "my ggrandmother Kate Kuntz's death certificate....I thought you wrote that this was her maiden name, how could her maiden name appear on her death certificate? What was your ggrandmother's married name? What was her husbands name and date of birth What were the names of their children Ursula Margaret Langan wrote: > Sorry to be so stupid but I've mad several attempts to request help but > somehow I've taken the wrong route. So here goes. Would someone be willing > to look up my ggrandmother's entrance into this country. Did she come with > her parents or alone and from what town in Germany. My ggrandmother Kate > Kuntz's death certificate in St louis Mo. states she was born Oct. 21, 1841 > in Odekoven Rhineland Prussia Her parents Frederick Kuntz father and > Katherine Hefell Mother. I have no idea when she came to this country but > it has to be before June !865 when she married my GGrandfather in St Louis, > Mo. Has anyone access to records they could search for this information?

Send a copy as attachment. Maybe I can help. Betty Becker -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Biggins Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 7:12 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] 1845 Wuerttemberg Passport I have a passport (Wander Buch) issued by the Kingdom of Wuerttemberg in 1845. It's in script and the letters are small. I have been able to translate some of it into English, but I am wondering if someone has already translated a Wuerttemberg passport from the era, which I could use as an aid to translating this one. Peter Biggins ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marge, Was your ggrandmother alive in 1910 or 1920? Was she listed on the Federal Census? It might say when she immigrated. Was she always in MO? Did you check the courthouse for an application for citizen ship? Maria P.S. I still can't find when and where my ggrandparents immg from Saxony to Michigan. It was about 1874 or 1875, Karl August Brumm and wife Wilehmina and 7 children. > Sorry to be so stupid but I've mad several attempts to request help but > somehow I've taken the wrong route. So here goes. Would someone be > willing > to look up my ggrandmother's entrance into this country. Did she come > with > her parents or alone and from what town in Germany. My ggrandmother Kate > Kuntz's death certificate in St louis Mo. states she was born Oct. 21, > 1841 > in Odekoven Rhineland Prussia Her parents Frederick Kuntz father and > Katherine Hefell Mother. I have no idea when she came to this country but > it has to be before June !865 when she married my GGrandfather in St > Louis, > Mo. Has anyone access to records they could search for this information? > Thank-you Marge > ----- Original Message -----

I have a passport (Wander Buch) issued by the Kingdom of Wuerttemberg in 1845. It's in script and the letters are small. I have been able to translate some of it into English, but I am wondering if someone has already translated a Wuerttemberg passport from the era, which I could use as an aid to translating this one. Peter Biggins

Sorry to be so stupid but I've mad several attempts to request help but somehow I've taken the wrong route. So here goes. Would someone be willing to look up my ggrandmother's entrance into this country. Did she come with her parents or alone and from what town in Germany. My ggrandmother Kate Kuntz's death certificate in St louis Mo. states she was born Oct. 21, 1841 in Odekoven Rhineland Prussia Her parents Frederick Kuntz father and Katherine Hefell Mother. I have no idea when she came to this country but it has to be before June !865 when she married my GGrandfather in St Louis, Mo. Has anyone access to records they could search for this information? Thank-you Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: <germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:03 AM Subject: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 71 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 70 (Ed Mashmann) > 2. proof readers (JEAN) > 3. Re: proof readers (kajh) > 4. ancestorsonboard (Julie) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:43:08 -0400 > From: "Ed Mashmann" <emashma1@nycap.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 70 > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <200609251243.k8PCh8Hv010112@ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hallo - > > > > I found two sets of information for Langohrs in the IGI - Germany. Could > Burtscheid Aschen, Rheinland, Preussen and Vital, Aachen Stadt, Rheinland, > Prussia be the same place? Or are they near each other? > > > > Danke > > Ed > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 11:18:41 -0500 > From: "JEAN" <JEAN74@TAMPABAY.RR.COM> > Subject: [G-P-L] proof readers > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <005401c6e0be$44cd9690$ec5eb848@computername> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > iHi ; I would like to volunteer to be a proofreader > Jean in fl > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:11:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: kajh <kajh76@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] proof readers > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com, JEAN74@TAMPABAY.RR.COM > Message-ID: <20060925171105.94716.qmail@web60517.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Thanks for offering your help Jean! It is much > appreciated. > I'll answer you off list. > > Kind regards, > > Kathleen > > --- JEAN wrote: > iHi ; I would like to volunteer to be a > proofreader > Jean in fl > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:24:04 -0700 (PDT) > From: Julie <juls92627@yahoo.com> > Subject: [G-P-L] ancestorsonboard > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20060925222404.50075.qmail@web60722.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I know this is a German list, but I am on the mailing list of > 1837online.com and this looks interesting. I have one ancestor who came > to the States via Liverpool from Poland, so I figure this might be helpful > to some of you. > Julie > > > Have you reached a brick wall with your family history research? 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