10-08-06 Hi Everyone, Finally have DSL. Still unable to find more information on John/Johann Meisinger who arrived in the port of NY on July 18, 1854. I did come across a Lawrence Herman married to Barbara Meisinger both born in 1816 with a son Joseph A. Herman who arrived in 1859 according to census film. I haven't been able to find them on any passenger list. They settled in Clarion as did the John and Anna Gruber Meisinger. I think that Barbara coul be a sister of John as he was born in 1814 in Bavaria as was Lawrence, Barbara and Joseph. Hope someone can help. Love receiving emails. Della Meisinger >From: kajh <kajh76@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: kajh76@yahoo.com, germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com >Subject: [G-P-L] Ancestor Database >Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 06:50:13 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello List, > >How is everyone today? > >Wolf, the List Administrator maintains an excellent >database if you'd like to input your ancestor's >information. > >In previous messages, many people outline a lot of >interesting information about their ancestry. This >would be wonderful for the Ancestors Database. > >If you'd like to only enter Surnames, that's fine or >you can add more detailed information. It would be >great for you or others to find a match. > >Ancestors Database (in English) >http://www.saxonyroots.com/Ancestors_Database/index.php?lan=en > >-OR- > >Ahnen Datenbank (in German) >http://www.saxonyroots.com/Ancestors_Database/index.php?lan=de > >Hope you will check it out soon !! > >Have a good day ... > >Kathleen > >PS >You may not see your information show up immediately. >If you check back in five to seven days it should be >there. The instructions are on the web pages. > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, How is everyone today? Wolf, the List Administrator maintains an excellent database if you'd like to input your ancestor's information. In previous messages, many people outline a lot of interesting information about their ancestry. This would be wonderful for the Ancestors Database. If you'd like to only enter Surnames, that's fine or you can add more detailed information. It would be great for you or others to find a match. Ancestors Database (in English) http://www.saxonyroots.com/Ancestors_Database/index.php?lan=en -OR- Ahnen Datenbank (in German) http://www.saxonyroots.com/Ancestors_Database/index.php?lan=de Hope you will check it out soon !! Have a good day ... Kathleen PS You may not see your information show up immediately. If you check back in five to seven days it should be there. The instructions are on the web pages. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi and MANY THANKS TO ALL who answered my question. Funny how one word can mean so many things. In this case it was archer or working with wood as he was a cabinet maker. I do need some help in translating what is written on the page on this site shown below. There is a picture and all is written in German. Thanks in advance. Mary http://wiki.genealogy.net/wiki/Bogner

Dear Ursula, BINGO! You hit it. He was a cabinet maker. It must have listed his occupation. Thank you so much. I was kind of hoping it was a town. Many people better than I have searched for Saver-Xavier-Frank Dess. You can write me direct at madess@adelphia.net if you want. Maybe you could shed some light on the subject. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula B. Adamson" <ubatrans@klondyke.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > Hello Mary, > The English definition of the historical occupation of Bogner or Pogner is > "archer". > For additional information you may want to view the woodcut of a > Pogner/Bogner at > http://wiki.genealogy.net/wiki/Bogner > > You say you can't find out where Xavier Dess died? In what > state/county/township did he > settle after his arrival? > > > Ursula. > > > Mary Ann Dess wrote: >> A big thanks to you. I will try to track that villate down now. This >> man >> is the family mystery. No on can find out when the poor soul died. Mary >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <mcgoverntt01886@comcast.net> >> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? >> >> >> >>>Poyner is a German name perhaps it is a village. There is a Poyner >>>township in Germany. Google. >>>-- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wolf Zscheile <saxonyroots@charter.net> wrote: Well, Pat, there is a Draisdorf in Bavaria and also a Draisendorf in Bavaria... Any way you could catch on from here ?Please tell me how. Which one is nearer Bamberg? Pat Good luck, Wolf > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Patricia Sterner > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:01 PM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G-P-L] Town in Bavaria Dralsdorf and Draidelsdorf > > > My Dotterweich ancestor Conrad came to US in 1852 on the > Merwede.Two sister and a brother came at the same time. > Behind the names of two was given the place of origin as > Draidelsdorf and one had Dralsdorf. I've tried everything to > find this folks in Bavaria but these towns are not to be > found. Tried LDS and many more methods. Sure hope one of you > can give me an answer. > Pat of MN > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release > Date: 10/3/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: 10/3/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.

Hello Mary, The English definition of the historical occupation of Bogner or Pogner is "archer". For additional information you may want to view the woodcut of a Pogner/Bogner at http://wiki.genealogy.net/wiki/Bogner You say you can't find out where Xavier Dess died? In what state/county/township did he settle after his arrival? Ursula. Mary Ann Dess wrote: > A big thanks to you. I will try to track that villate down now. This man > is the family mystery. No on can find out when the poor soul died. Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mcgoverntt01886@comcast.net> > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > > > >>Poyner is a German name perhaps it is a village. There is a Poyner >>township in Germany. Google. >>--

Poyner is a German name perhaps it is a village. There is a Poyner township in Germany. Google. -- Terie McGovern nee Von Duelman -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Wolf Zscheile" <saxonyroots@charter.net> > Hi, Mary, > > I just entered your scan into our WIKI and I sincerely hope someone > can make more sense out of it. > > http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Reading_Help > > NB: If anyone needs a similar HELP, we can put the scans into our > WIKI and then tell EVERYONE in the whole world to take a look > and help to get rid of another brick in the 'brickwall'.. > > Good luck, > > Wolf [Zscheile] > > ******************************************** > > Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS > > http://www.saxonyroots.com > > ******************************************** > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of Kenneth Dess > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:05 PM > > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > > > > > > Hi, > > > > While looking at a passenger list for an ancestor from > > BAVARIA, I found > > this word written POGNETT and of course do not know > > what it is. > > Maybe a town? I really can't make out the last two letters > > even with a > > magnifying glass. I hope someone can clue me in. Thanks in > > advance. > Mary > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: 10/3/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mary, First of all, I don't see any 'tt' in the word - I read it as Pogner. I hate to burst your bubble but the column that contains the word "Pogner or Poyner" is the OCCUPATION column not the 'Place of Origin' column. If you look on the other pages of the ship's manifest you will find the same occupation for immigrants from Hessen. I assume C. Gustavus the captain of the Adler must have made an error when he transfered the data from the departure manifest issued in Bremen to the one he presented to US customs in New York. You can rest assured there is no town or village in either Hessen or Bavaria by the name of Pogner/Poyner. Ursula Mary Ann Dess wrote: > A big thanks to you. I will try to track that villate down now. This man > is the family mystery. No on can find out when the poor soul died. Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mcgoverntt01886@comcast.net> > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > >

Hi to all - This is the first time I've piped up but I just couldn't resist sharing... According to Wikipedia, when I entered POGNER, I got these two bits of information. Quebec French Lexicon Crier|to obtain|In Europe, to cry. See also pogner. Pogner|get, grab|Can also mean to be sexually attractive, successful. Happy Full Moon week!!! Cathie __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

A big thanks to you. I will try to track that villate down now. This man is the family mystery. No on can find out when the poor soul died. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: <mcgoverntt01886@comcast.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > Poyner is a German name perhaps it is a village. There is a Poyner > township in Germany. Google. > -- > Terie McGovern > nee Von Duelman > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Wolf Zscheile" <saxonyroots@charter.net> > >> Hi, Mary, >> >> I just entered your scan into our WIKI and I sincerely hope someone >> can make more sense out of it. >> >> http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Reading_Help >> >> NB: If anyone needs a similar HELP, we can put the scans into our >> WIKI and then tell EVERYONE in the whole world to take a look >> and help to get rid of another brick in the 'brickwall'.. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Wolf [Zscheile] >> >> ******************************************** >> >> Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS >> >> http://www.saxonyroots.com >> >> ******************************************** >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com >> > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> > Behalf Of Kenneth Dess >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:05 PM >> > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? >> > >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > While looking at a passenger list for an ancestor from >> > BAVARIA, I found >> > this word written POGNETT and of course do not know >> > what it is. >> > Maybe a town? I really can't make out the last two letters >> > even with a >> > magnifying glass. I hope someone can clue me in. Thanks in >> > advance. >> Mary >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: >> 10/3/2006 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well, Pat, there is a Draisdorf in Bavaria and also a Draisendorf in Bavaria... Any way you could catch on from here ? Good luck, Wolf > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Patricia Sterner > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 8:01 PM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G-P-L] Town in Bavaria Dralsdorf and Draidelsdorf > > > My Dotterweich ancestor Conrad came to US in 1852 on the > Merwede.Two sister and a brother came at the same time. > Behind the names of two was given the place of origin as > Draidelsdorf and one had Dralsdorf. I've tried everything to > find this folks in Bavaria but these towns are not to be > found. Tried LDS and many more methods. Sure hope one of you > can give me an answer. > Pat of MN > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release > Date: 10/3/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: 10/3/2006

Thank you so much. You are always a big help. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf Zscheile" <saxonyroots@charter.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > Hi, Mary, > > I just entered your scan into our WIKI and I sincerely hope someone > can make more sense out of it. > > http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Reading_Help > > NB: If anyone needs a similar HELP, we can put the scans into our > WIKI and then tell EVERYONE in the whole world to take a look > and help to get rid of another brick in the 'brickwall'.. > > Good luck, > > Wolf [Zscheile] > > ******************************************** > > Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS > > http://www.saxonyroots.com > > ******************************************** > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> Behalf Of Kenneth Dess >> Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:05 PM >> To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? >> >> >> Hi, >> >> While looking at a passenger list for an ancestor from >> BAVARIA, I found >> this word written POGNETT and of course do not know >> what it is. >> Maybe a town? I really can't make out the last two letters >> even with a >> magnifying glass. I hope someone can clue me in. Thanks in >> advance. > Mary > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: 10/3/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mary, There is a town in Wisconsin that is called Poynett or Poynettte. It seems to have a lot of German settlers in the 1800's. Maybe there is something similarly named in Germany? Good Luck in your search. Tammy Schille Straub > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Kenneth Dess > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:05 PM > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > > Hi, > While looking at a passenger list for an ancestor from > BAVARIA, I found > this word written POGNETT and of course do not know > what it is. > Maybe a town? I really can't make out the last two letters > even with a > magnifying glass. I hope someone can clue me in. Thanks in > advance. Mary >

Hi Mary, Could it be Pognest, or Poynest? It really doesn't appear to be two t's at the end, to me, and the 'g', could possibly be a y. Sorry I am not able to be of more help, but thought I would just throw out those possibilities. Good luck! Linda On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 18:58:32 -0500 "Wolf Zscheile" <saxonyroots@charter.net> writes: > Hi, Mary, > > I just entered your scan into our WIKI and I sincerely hope > someone > can make more sense out of it. > > http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Reading_Help > > NB: If anyone needs a similar HELP, we can put the scans into our > WIKI and then tell EVERYONE in the whole world to take a look > and help to get rid of another brick in the 'brickwall'.. > > Good luck, > > Wolf [Zscheile] > > ******************************************** > > Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS > > http://www.saxonyroots.com > > ******************************************** > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of Kenneth Dess > > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:05 PM > > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > > > > > > Hi, > > > > While looking at a passenger list for an ancestor from > > BAVARIA, I found > > this word written POGNETT and of course do not know > > what it is. > > Maybe a town? I really can't make out the last two letters > > even with a > > magnifying glass. I hope someone can clue me in. Thanks in > > advance. > Mary > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: > 10/3/2006 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >

Hi, Mary, I just entered your scan into our WIKI and I sincerely hope someone can make more sense out of it. http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Reading_Help NB: If anyone needs a similar HELP, we can put the scans into our WIKI and then tell EVERYONE in the whole world to take a look and help to get rid of another brick in the 'brickwall'.. Good luck, Wolf [Zscheile] ******************************************** Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS http://www.saxonyroots.com ******************************************** > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Kenneth Dess > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:05 PM > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > > > Hi, > > While looking at a passenger list for an ancestor from > BAVARIA, I found > this word written POGNETT and of course do not know > what it is. > Maybe a town? I really can't make out the last two letters > even with a > magnifying glass. I hope someone can clue me in. Thanks in > advance. Mary -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: 10/3/2006

My Dotterweich ancestor Conrad came to US in 1852 on the Merwede.Two sister and a brother came at the same time. Behind the names of two was given the place of origin as Draidelsdorf and one had Dralsdorf. I've tried everything to find this folks in Bavaria but these towns are not to be found. Tried LDS and many more methods. Sure hope one of you can give me an answer. Pat of MN --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.

Hi, Mary, this looks really strange to me... could it be a 'mis-spelling' or 'mis-reading' ?? It might be worthwhile to see a scan of this, maybe someone else could read something entirely different with a more 'meaningful' sense ?? Good luck and let's keep trying, Wolf [Zscheile] ******************************************** Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS http://www.saxonyroots.com ******************************************** > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Kenneth Dess > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 1:05 PM > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G-P-L] TOWN IN BAVERIA? > > > Hi, > > While looking at a passenger list for an ancestor from > BAVARIA, I found > this word written POGNETT and of course do not know > what it is. > Maybe a town? I really can't make out the last two letters > even with a > magnifying glass. I hope someone can clue me in. Thanks in > advance. Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release > Date: 10/3/2006 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: 10/3/2006

In a message dated 10/4/2006 6:28:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, susan.g.clark@comcast.net writes: Good morning, all, FYI - The following article was sent for possible posting, and as it looks legitimate, here it is. It details a project by the LDS to put millions of records online for free at familysearch.org. Don't go looking for them yet! The project has only just begun. Susan A family history overhaul By Carrie A. Moore Deseret Morning News http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650194998,00.html Very legitimate. Stopped over at our FHC today and it is for real. Research has come a long way!! The internet has opened up a whole world. Makes one wonder, how far will we go!

Hi, While looking at a passenger list for an ancestor from BAVARIA, I found this word written POGNETT and of course do not know what it is. Maybe a town? I really can't make out the last two letters even with a magnifying glass. I hope someone can clue me in. Thanks in advance. Mary

Good morning, all, FYI - The following article was sent for possible posting, and as it looks legitimate, here it is. It details a project by the LDS to put millions of records online for free at familysearch.org. Don't go looking for them yet! The project has only just begun. Susan A family history overhaul By Carrie A. Moore Deseret Morning News http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650194998,00.html