Hello Ursula: Thanks for letting me know the correct way to tell you about my ancestors who immigrated to Canada.My Grandfather whose name was FRANZ TITZE was born on November 9, 1870 in Waldhof, Germany. When he grew up he worked in a knitting mill in Kassel as a weaver. In going back to his ancestors, they were at one time named TITZE WEBER. (WEBER meaning "weaver". ) He married and his wife's name was MARIE (she was my grandmother ) She was born in Minden on April 29,1872.I don't know her maiden name, it could have been SCHULTZ. They immigrated to Canada in the early months of 1911 from BREMEN on a ship called the MANFORD. Their 5 children immigrated with them, namely my father ARTHUR ERICH TITZE, born Feb 19, 1899 in KASSEL, also 3 more sons, ALFRED, CARL AND GEORGE and one daughter MARTHA. They landed in St. John, New Brunswick and travelled by train to Northwestern Ontario, where they took up a homestead. My mother MARTHA OLGA DELLNER was born on March 28, 1901 in Dresden, Germany. After corresponding with my father, ARTHUR ERICH TITZE for some time, he invited her to Canada to become his bride. All I know is that she arrived sometime in August 1924, I do not know on which ship, or where she landed. The DELLER name was originally know as DELLNER GENNANDT SUSSEMILCH, but was later changed to just DELLNER. They were married in October 1924. As a note of interest, once my grandparents were settled in a make shift log cabin, my grandfather wrote back to his relatives in Germany, telling them how much they enjoyed the country here, but the living was hard. Apparently the relatives kept these letters for many years, and about 20 years ago, another relative went to visit Germany and found these letters in a bombed out home of one of his relatives. That is where most of my information has come from. If you need any further clarification, please let me know. Thank you so much Dorothy Ward

Hi All; Re Anglicization/Americanization of Germanic names: I can't speak to all cases, but one letter change which repeatedly cropped up during my research on the genealogy of a potter from Strasburg, Virginia was B to P and vice-versa. Thus the names, Burki, Burgi and Burkenbuehl all devolved to Pirkey (also Perkey, Perky, Purkey and Purky); Bentz devolved to Pence, and Pantzer to Bender. Also, in researching my own family, the surname Jaacks was misinterpreted as Gaaks. I'm sure there are many more examples among our membership. Cheers, Masugu

Or the English spelling of Lawrence/Laurence. Sharon ----- Original Message ---- From: Evelyn Wicke <ewicke@gvec.net> To: Maggie Laurenz <mlaurenz@lakotanetwork.com>; germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 3:27:35 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] LAURENZ/LORENZ Maggie, have you tried "Lorance" or some other variant? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Laurenz" <mlaurenz@lakotanetwork.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: [G-P-L] LAURENZ/LORENZ > > > I am seeking immigration records for August Laurenz/Lorenz and his > family who immigrated to the United States in 1893 or 1894. I have > been told that they arrived through Ellis Island. It is my > understanding all those records were destroyed in a fire sometime > after 1900. I am hoping to locate the German Port of their departure > and the ship they traveled on. > > I am really interested in learning more about Regina POMMORIN. We > know her birth date is March of 1854 and that she was Polish. We > also know that she had a son Adolph Pommorin who was born in Ober, > East Prussia. He immigrated to the US on Nov 14th, 1898. The ship > was the Pretoria from Hamburg, Germany to port of NY. From the ships > manifest I learned that his birth date was Feb. 1874. His last > residence was Tattein. Ancestry.com has this information but nothing > on August Laurenz/Lorenz and family immigration. > > August Laurenz/Lorenz b July 1856/57 in Reuschendorf, Germany > > m Regina Pommorin b Mar. 1854 > > children at that time were > > Louise Laurenz/Lorenz b May 1881 > > Maria/Mary Laurenz/Lorenz b May 1885 > > August Ludwig Laurenz/Lorenz b Oct 1888 > > Franz/Frank b May 1892 in Wiersbinen, East Prussia > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Good morning Shirley, I don´t know much abvout the schip KONING WILHELM but anyhow it is awas a ship from the Netherlands. Perhaps you may find more details in a Netherland list. best wishes Hans (Schuessler) germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com schrieb: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ship Koning Willem, arrive NY July 21, 1847 (Shirley Martin) > 2. Re: Ancestors (Ursula B. Adamson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:50:34 -0600 > From: "Shirley Martin" <gcmsam@snowhill.com> > Subject: [G-P-L] Ship Koning Willem, arrive NY July 21, 1847 > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001c702e8$8e129840$a1d61840@gcmsam> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Does anyone have the passenger list for the above ship? The brother of my husband's g-grandfather, Henry Enk, may have been on it and, hopefully my husband's g-grandfather, Bernard Enk, also. > > Shirley > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:54:58 -0500 > From: "Ursula B. Adamson" <ubatrans@klondyke.net> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestors > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <45518D52.3000104@klondyke.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Hello Dorothy, > With the information you have given us there is little chance of finding any of the persons > you have mentioned in your email. > > Tips for writing an effective query: > 1. Enter the SURNAME you are researching in the SUBJECT line ["Ancestors" is too general]. > > 2. Provide as much information of the person as possible: > > 2a First Name, Surname, date of birth, and any other data e.g. immigration date, country of > origin etc. ["my grandfather TITZE" is not enough, please give us his first name]. > > 3. Depending on whether you are searching your ancestors in the US or Canada, your > grandmother at this point is only of interest if she immigrated. If she remained in Germany, > you will have to search for her in Germany. > > 4. You wrote "My mother Martha DELLNER immigrated to Canada 'around' 1924 to marry my > father". When was your mother born and what is your father's name and date of birth? > If your father immigrated with his parents, what were their names and DOBs? > > After you have provided us with this information, perhaps we can help. > > Ursula > > dorothy ward wrote: > > >> Hello Thank you for the welcome to your site. I am presently searching for both my >> grandparents who immigrated from Germany to Canada. My grandfather ((TITZE) immigrated >> in the year 1911 or 1912 from Bremen. His home had been in KASSEL.The ship he sailed on >> was called the "Manford" or "Mantfort" He and his wife,Marie, had 5 children who came >> with them. I have also been trying to find my maternal grandparents. The grandmother was >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS list administrator, send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS mailing list, send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 132 > ******************************************************* > >

I am seeking immigration records for August Laurenz/Lorenz and his family who immigrated to the United States in 1893 or 1894. I have been told that they arrived through Ellis Island. It is my understanding all those records were destroyed in a fire sometime after 1900. I am hoping to locate the German Port of their departure and the ship they traveled on. I am really interested in learning more about Regina POMMORIN. We know her birth date is March of 1854 and that she was Polish. We also know that she had a son Adolph Pommorin who was born in Ober, East Prussia. He immigrated to the US on Nov 14th, 1898. The ship was the Pretoria from Hamburg, Germany to port of NY. From the ships manifest I learned that his birth date was Feb. 1874. His last residence was Tattein. Ancestry.com has this information but nothing on August Laurenz/Lorenz and family immigration. August Laurenz/Lorenz b July 1856/57 in Reuschendorf, Germany m Regina Pommorin b Mar. 1854 children at that time were Louise Laurenz/Lorenz b May 1881 Maria/Mary Laurenz/Lorenz b May 1885 August Ludwig Laurenz/Lorenz b Oct 1888 Franz/Frank b May 1892 in Wiersbinen, East Prussia Any help will be greatly appreciated. Maggie Miller Laurenz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Dorothy, With the information you have given us there is little chance of finding any of the persons you have mentioned in your email. Tips for writing an effective query: 1. Enter the SURNAME you are researching in the SUBJECT line ["Ancestors" is too general]. 2. Provide as much information of the person as possible: 2a First Name, Surname, date of birth, and any other data e.g. immigration date, country of origin etc. ["my grandfather TITZE" is not enough, please give us his first name]. 3. Depending on whether you are searching your ancestors in the US or Canada, your grandmother at this point is only of interest if she immigrated. If she remained in Germany, you will have to search for her in Germany. 4. You wrote "My mother Martha DELLNER immigrated to Canada 'around' 1924 to marry my father". When was your mother born and what is your father's name and date of birth? If your father immigrated with his parents, what were their names and DOBs? After you have provided us with this information, perhaps we can help. Ursula dorothy ward wrote: > Hello Thank you for the welcome to your site. I am presently searching for both my > grandparents who immigrated from Germany to Canada. My grandfather ((TITZE) immigrated > in the year 1911 or 1912 from Bremen. His home had been in KASSEL.The ship he sailed on > was called the "Manford" or "Mantfort" He and his wife,Marie, had 5 children who came > with them. I have also been trying to find my maternal grandparents. The grandmother was

Shirley, The Family ID No. gien to H??? Enk only was assigned to him. No one else on this ship had the same ID No. Kahleen Ship Name: Koning Willem Port of Departure: Rotterdam Port of Arrival: New York Date of Arrival: Jul 21, 1847 Origin of Passengers: Deutschland Cath Augusteson 22 F J??? Augusteson 32 M L??? Becht 18 M Cath Boch 18 F J. C. Boch 28 M A??? Culter 21 M J??? Deitz 21 M Adam Delger 11 M Cath Delger 8 F J??? Delger 66 M Joseph Delger 10 M Ma Delger 19 F Adam Dietz 1 M Cath Dietz 40 F Elzbt Dietz 9 F Jacob Dietz 11 M M??? Dietz 70 M Maria Dietz 6 F H??? Enk 24 M Family Identification: 706291 Dina Essing 22 F Elzt Essing 25 F Francisca Fisch 3 F Franys Fisch 7 F Johan Fisch 10 M M??? Fisch 37 M Madild Fisch 9 F Mgt Fisch 34 F Theresia Fisch 1 F J. M. Freandt 34 M J??? Freandt 35 M John N. Freandt 34 M Lorentz Freandt 4 M Magd Freandt 35 F Mar C. Freandt 31 F Mrgt Freandt 7 F G??? Hamukel 24 M H??? Hollegch 20 M Anna Huber 43 F Barb Huber 1 F Carl Huber 18 M Cath Huber 6 F Elzbt Huber 11 F J??? Huber 53 M Johan Huber 8 M H??? Juchgruf 27 M Helena Juchgruf 1 F Magd Juchgruf 24 F Cath Keuster 1 F Cath B. Keuster 25 F Elzbt Keuster 7 F J. J. Keuster 32 M Magd Keuster 3 F F??? Konach 22 M M??? Krapp 24 M Sabina Krapp 18 F Jule Kricten 20 F G??? Linser 22 M Corn Mali 9 F Mgt Mali 10 F Ehard Matze 14 M J??? Matze 51 M Jacob Matze 12 M Mgt Matze 16 F Mrgt Matze 50 F Susann Matze 20 F Valents Matze 23 M Adam Maurer 10 M Anna Maurer 53 F C??? Maurer 15 M Cath Maurer 26 F G??? Maurer 51 M B??? Muller 27 M J??? Muller 1 M Joh M. Muller 2 M Mgtha Muller 27 F ??? Napp 29 M Geoge A. Oauht 13 M Maxh Oauht 18 F Ursule Oauht 15 F Cath Pflany 29 F Christa Pflany 30 F J. W. Pflany 29 M Joh M. Pflany 1 M Joh M. Pflany 36 M Joh W. Pflany 3 M Maria Pflany 1 F A??? Plebst 23 M Bernd Puttehan 1 M H??? Puttehan 38 M Johan Puttehan 4 M Johann Puttehan 7 F Johanna Puttehan 36 F Marie Puttehan 9 F Wilhelm Puttehan 11 M J??? Reiley 18 M D??? Reiter 24 M Getd Reiter 21 F Cath Roth 23 F Cath Sauer 24 F P??? Sauer 27 M ? ??, Widow Schmurz 35 F A??? Schmurz 11 M A??? Schmurz 32 M Cath Schmurz 9 F Eliza Schmurz 22 F Elizbt Schmurz 2 F Eva Schmurz 7 F Johan Schmurz 6 M Wenz Schmurz 2 M C??? Scholl 19 M P??? Scholl 27 M Fdch Schring 11 M Johan Schring 22 M Mgt Schring 49 F W??? Schring 51 M Ann Schuber 5 F Car A. Schuber 9 F Cath Schuber 18 F Cath Schuber 21 F Eliza Schuber 45 F Elzbt Schuber 7 F G. M. Schuber 44 M Gertd Schuber 20 F Johan Schuber 1 M Mrgt Schuber 3 F Adam Selzer 2 M C??? Selzer 1 M Cath Selzer 27 F Christina Selzer 27 F L??? Selzer 22 F J??? Steider 25 M A??? Veller 34 M Elza Veller 11 F Geog Veller 1 M Soph Veller 34 F Corn Vogal 1 M J??? Vogel 27 M Cath Wensing 20 F Engelina Wensing 28 F G??? Wensing 34 M Eholstraf Zahn 23 M J. Adolph Zahn 1 M J??? Zahn 28 M Susane Zahn 26 F L??? Zane 43 M G. M. Zinser 24 M Adam Zurich 57 M Cath Zurich 22 F Cath Zurich 5 F Doroth Zurich 9 F Henrich Zurich 46 F Lousa Zurich 23 F Martin Zurich 26 M Mrgt Zurich 10 F Ref.: Microfilm Serial Number: M237 / Roll Number: 68 New York: Registers of Vessels Arriving at the Port of New York from Foreign Ports, 1789-1919. National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C. Micropublication M237, rolls # 1-95. Shirley Martin wrote: Does anyone have the passenger list for the above ship? The brother of my husband's g-grandfather, Henry Enk, may have been on it and, hopefully my husband's g-grandfather, Bernard Enk, also. Shirley --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/mo - Calculate new house payment

Does anyone have the passenger list for the above ship? The brother of my husband's g-grandfather, Henry Enk, may have been on it and, hopefully my husband's g-grandfather, Bernard Enk, also. Shirley

Hallo Robert, I am living in Wuerzburg Germany. Can I help with something? Shall I check for the name in the telephone books or ask at the city lord major's office? Chris -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Robert L. Kaes Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:06 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com; GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestors My Grandfather Josef Kas was born in Wurzburg, Bavaria in 1881 and came to America in the early 1900's with his half brother John. He married Ida Lange in Crookston MN in 1906. His Father and Grandfather were als named Josef Kaes. His mother's name was Tripplespur. Can anyone help. I have checked the New York Ports and cannot find anything. Can anyone help please? -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dorothy ward Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:36 PM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestors Hello Thank you for the welcome to your site. I am presently searching for both my grandparents who immigrated from Germany to Canada. My grandfather ((TITZE) immigrated in the year 1911 or 1912 from Bremen. His home had been in KASSEL.The ship he sailed on was called the "Manford" or "Mantfort" He and his wife,Marie, had 5 children who came with them. I have also been trying to find my maternal grandparents. The grandmother was born in Halberstadt and later lived in Dresden. Her name was MINNA VON RIETHAUSEN born around 1864. She married a PAUL DELLNER GENANDT SUSSEMILCH, but the name was later shortened to DELLNER. My mother MARTHA DELLNER immigrated to Canada around 1924 to marry my father, who along with his parents had taken up a homestead in northwestern Ontario. All the websites I have searched have come up blank. I think it could be possible that some of the records may have been destroyed in the second world war, either that or they immigrated under assummed names. If anyone has come across these names, I would appreciate it if your would let me know. Thank you so much (danke) Dorothy Ward dorot@shaw.ca ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.13.28/518 - Release Date: 11/4/06 5:30 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.13.29/520 - Release Date: 11/6/06 3:50 PM

Manaia, What makes you think you offended me? Nothing could be further from the truth! I am not the least bit offended and no apology is necessary, at least not to me. Elaine On 11/6/06, manaia alofa <manaiaalofa@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello Elaine: > > Apologies goes out to you, your families, and to anyone if I have offended - it is *not* intentional. > > I should have taken my query to another list/board because of the nature of what this one is/does. > > Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in passenger lists for ships from Germany. The list supplements the database contained on the Saxony Roots Passenger Lists website. > > Therefore, I will take my curiosity elsewhere... Thanks! > > Regards, > --Manaia > > > Elaine O'Neill <elaineoneill1948@gmail.com> wrote: > All I can say on the pronounciations is that our Maleschefsky > definitely sounded like "Malashefski". > > Elaine

Thanks, I'll check that out. Bob -----Original Message----- From: J. Bruce Hill [mailto:jbhill@cox.net] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 1:52 PM To: rlkaes@comcast.net; germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [G-P-L] Ancestors In the late 1800's and early 1900's Bavaria had a number of offices that were for the sole purpose of helping the German/Bavarian people to emigrate to the United States. One of the major centers was in Aschaffenburg. They recently had (last year) an event celebrating this "Good Bye Bayern Grüß America". I believe this might be a place to start. Würzburg is only a short distance away. Good Luck - Bruce -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Kaes Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:06 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com; GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestors My Grandfather Josef Kas was born in Wurzburg, Bavaria in 1881 and came to America in the early 1900's with his half brother John. He married Ida Lange in Crookston MN in 1906. His Father and Grandfather were als named Josef Kaes. His mother's name was Tripplespur. Can anyone help. I have checked the New York Ports and cannot find anything. Can anyone help please? -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dorothy ward Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:36 PM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestors Hello Thank you for the welcome to your site. I am presently searching for both my grandparents who immigrated from Germany to Canada. My grandfather ((TITZE) immigrated in the year 1911 or 1912 from Bremen. His home had been in KASSEL.The ship he sailed on was called the "Manford" or "Mantfort" He and his wife,Marie, had 5 children who came with them. I have also been trying to find my maternal grandparents. The grandmother was born in Halberstadt and later lived in Dresden. Her name was MINNA VON RIETHAUSEN born around 1864. She married a PAUL DELLNER GENANDT SUSSEMILCH, but the name was later shortened to DELLNER. My mother MARTHA DELLNER immigrated to Canada around 1924 to marry my father, who along with his parents had taken up a homestead in northwestern Ontario. All the websites I have searched have come up blank. I think it could be possible that some of the records may have been destroyed in the second world war, either that or they immigrated under assummed names. If anyone has come across these names, I would appreciate it if your would let me know. Thank you so much (danke) Dorothy Ward dorot@shaw.ca ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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My Grandfather Josef Kas was born in Wurzburg, Bavaria in 1881 and came to America in the early 1900's with his half brother John. He married Ida Lange in Crookston MN in 1906. His Father and Grandfather were als named Josef Kaes. His mother's name was Tripplespur. Can anyone help. I have checked the New York Ports and cannot find anything. Can anyone help please? -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dorothy ward Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:36 PM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestors Hello Thank you for the welcome to your site. I am presently searching for both my grandparents who immigrated from Germany to Canada. My grandfather ((TITZE) immigrated in the year 1911 or 1912 from Bremen. His home had been in KASSEL.The ship he sailed on was called the "Manford" or "Mantfort" He and his wife,Marie, had 5 children who came with them. I have also been trying to find my maternal grandparents. The grandmother was born in Halberstadt and later lived in Dresden. Her name was MINNA VON RIETHAUSEN born around 1864. She married a PAUL DELLNER GENANDT SUSSEMILCH, but the name was later shortened to DELLNER. My mother MARTHA DELLNER immigrated to Canada around 1924 to marry my father, who along with his parents had taken up a homestead in northwestern Ontario. All the websites I have searched have come up blank. I think it could be possible that some of the records may have been destroyed in the second world war, either that or they immigrated under assummed names. If anyone has come across these names, I would appreciate it if your would let me know. Thank you so much (danke) Dorothy Ward dorot@shaw.ca ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In the late 1800's and early 1900's Bavaria had a number of offices that were for the sole purpose of helping the German/Bavarian people to emigrate to the United States. One of the major centers was in Aschaffenburg. They recently had (last year) an event celebrating this "Good Bye Bayern Grüß America". I believe this might be a place to start. Würzburg is only a short distance away. Good Luck - Bruce -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Kaes Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:06 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com; GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestors My Grandfather Josef Kas was born in Wurzburg, Bavaria in 1881 and came to America in the early 1900's with his half brother John. He married Ida Lange in Crookston MN in 1906. His Father and Grandfather were als named Josef Kaes. His mother's name was Tripplespur. Can anyone help. I have checked the New York Ports and cannot find anything. Can anyone help please? -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dorothy ward Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:36 PM To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ancestors Hello Thank you for the welcome to your site. I am presently searching for both my grandparents who immigrated from Germany to Canada. My grandfather ((TITZE) immigrated in the year 1911 or 1912 from Bremen. His home had been in KASSEL.The ship he sailed on was called the "Manford" or "Mantfort" He and his wife,Marie, had 5 children who came with them. I have also been trying to find my maternal grandparents. The grandmother was born in Halberstadt and later lived in Dresden. Her name was MINNA VON RIETHAUSEN born around 1864. She married a PAUL DELLNER GENANDT SUSSEMILCH, but the name was later shortened to DELLNER. My mother MARTHA DELLNER immigrated to Canada around 1924 to marry my father, who along with his parents had taken up a homestead in northwestern Ontario. All the websites I have searched have come up blank. I think it could be possible that some of the records may have been destroyed in the second world war, either that or they immigrated under assummed names. If anyone has come across these names, I would appreciate it if your would let me know. Thank you so much (danke) Dorothy Ward dorot@shaw.ca ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Elaine, I believe I have found them ... check them out at Ancestry.com: Friedr. Walischewska, age 27 Maria, age 29 Miene, age 3 Otto, age 11 mos. Arrival: 9 May 1888 Bremen/Southampton to New York Ship Werra Ursula from MI Elaine O'Neill wrote: > Thanks, Bill. I've tried there but the search engine kept getting > hung up and I got no results at all. I'll have to try again, I guess. > > Regards, > Elaine > > On 11/5/06, WMFHLNGR@aol.com <WMFHLNGR@aol.com> wrote: > >>You say they arrived in 1888. Ellis Island was not open yet >>so try some research through CASTLE GARDEN Immigration >>records. >> >> Bill FehlingeNJ >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > . >

All I can say on the pronounciations is that our Maleschefsky definitely sounded like "Malashefski". Elaine On 11/6/06, manaia alofa <manaiaalofa@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello Sandra: > > Because of the "spellings" Maleschefsky and Walischewska, I wonder if anyone on the List can tell me if the letter "m" and the letter "w" can sound alike to german-speaking indivduals? But is/are two different sounds to American speakers. > > And is -chefsky... how is that pronounced in Germany? I would enunciate -sky as -ski as in the word "ski" - on the snow. > > Thanks! > > Regards, > --Manaia > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sponsored Link > > $200,000 mortgage for $660/mo - 30/15 yr fixed, reduce debt, home equity - Click now for info > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ooops!! I forgot my father's mother's side........Her mother's name was Maria HUEBNER, from "Verbelin, Prussia", and her father's name was August SCHMULT, from "Strebelin, Prussia" according to their marriage record from St. Boniface Catholic Church in Detroit in 1881. They both say they arrived in the US in 1881. I don't know if they met on board ship or lived near each other in the old country. I haven't found their immigration yet either. Maria's brother Adolph immigrated later, but his records that I've found only indicate "Prussia". Elaine On 11/6/06, Elaine O'Neill <elaineoneill1948@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Everyone! > > I've been asked to post an intro, so here goes: > > My name is Elaine and I've been working on my and my husband's family > history since 1983. Some of our lines are Irish Canadian, some are > French Canadian, one line is from White Russia (now Belarus), some are > "American" thru and thru going back to the 1700s, and the rest are > German, Prussian and Polish. One German line came to the US in the > 1700s...LOUGHMILLER, which eventually became MILLER. I'm also working > on MEYERS/MEYER...they immigrated in 1849 from Prussia, but I don't > know where. Another surname I'm searching is YHALKEE. On one > gravestone it's spelled Ya-Chalke. They also claim to be from Prussia > and were in the US by 1856. It's a very unusual name and I would love > to be able to determine the area of origin. Then there's my > Maleschefsky's who claim to be from Berlin. They were also Catholic. > I don't know if that would narrow down the part of Berlin or not. My > Grandmother on my mother's side's surname was HINC (pronounced Hintz). > She was Polish but when she immigrated in 1903, there was no Poland > and I've always been told she came from the "German side of Poland". > On the ship's manifest she gives her point of origin as "Wichnlec, > Wp." She sailed from Bremen on the S.S. Neckar. > I was born and raised in Detroit, Michigan but 4 yrs ago when my > husband retired we moved to near Branson, Missouri. He's not > completely retired yet, but recently lost his job. Hopefully he'll > find something soon. > Ok, I think I've gone on long enough. If anyone has any questions, > please don't hesitate to ask. > > Regards, > Elaine O'Neill >

Hi Manaia, Regarding the name change from Maleschefsky to Mahl.......my Gr-gr-Grandfather never changed it. My Gr-Grandfather is the one who did and he seemed to use whichever name struck his fancy at the moment. He married using Mahl, but when my father was born and when he was baptized it was again Maleschefsky, and then when my father's sister was born it was again Mahl. My father had his name legally changed to Mahl in the 1940s. I don't know a lot about this side of my family. My father died when I was only 8 and my mother didn't keep in touch with his family afterward. Elaine On 11/6/06, manaia alofa <manaiaalofa@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I was curious as to how the family name changed from Maleschefsky to MAHL? Was it enroute to America? or Before? > > At Castle Garden they are listed Walischewska, but as I've learned from reading many immigrant stories from many nations, how one says a surname of their origin is almost always certain to be foreign or very unfamiliar to American ears. > > I'd happened upon the MAHL surname on www.genealogy.org. > > Please... I'd really like to hear about your Mahl/Maleschefsky/Walischewska journey. > > Regards, > --Manaia > > > Elaine O'Neill <elaineoneill1948@gmail.com> wrote: > THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! This must be them.......the ages and first names > are right. I know it's asking a lot, but would you possibly be able > to copy the document for me? I had to let my Ancestry subscription > lapse because my husband is out of work and I can't get in to view the > document itself. > Thank you once again so very very much!!! > > Elaine > > On 11/6/06, Ursula B. Adamson wrote: > > Hello Elaine, > > I believe I have found them ... check them out at Ancestry.com: > > > > Friedr. Walischewska, age 27 > > Maria, age 29 > > Miene, age 3 > > Otto, age 11 mos. > > Arrival: 9 May 1888 > > Bremen/Southampton to New York > > Ship Werra > > > > Ursula from MI > > > > > > Elaine O'Neill wrote: > > > Thanks, Bill. I've tried there but the search engine kept getting > > > hung up and I got no results at all. I'll have to try again, I guess. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Elaine > > > > > > On 11/5/06, WMFHLNGR@aol.com wrote: > > > > > >>You say they arrived in 1888. Ellis Island was not open yet > > >>so try some research through CASTLE GARDEN Immigration > > >>records. > > >> > > >> Bill FehlingeNJ > > > > --------------------------------- > Sponsored Link > > Try Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Everyone! I've been asked to post an intro, so here goes: My name is Elaine and I've been working on my and my husband's family history since 1983. Some of our lines are Irish Canadian, some are French Canadian, one line is from White Russia (now Belarus), some are "American" thru and thru going back to the 1700s, and the rest are German, Prussian and Polish. One German line came to the US in the 1700s...LOUGHMILLER, which eventually became MILLER. I'm also working on MEYERS/MEYER...they immigrated in 1849 from Prussia, but I don't know where. Another surname I'm searching is YHALKEE. On one gravestone it's spelled Ya-Chalke. They also claim to be from Prussia and were in the US by 1856. It's a very unusual name and I would love to be able to determine the area of origin. Then there's my Maleschefsky's who claim to be from Berlin. They were also Catholic. I don't know if that would narrow down the part of Berlin or not. My Grandmother on my mother's side's surname was HINC (pronounced Hintz). She was Polish but when she immigrated in 1903, there was no Poland and I've always been told she came from the "German side of Poland". On the ship's manifest she gives her point of origin as "Wichnlec, Wp." She sailed from Bremen on the S.S. Neckar. I was born and raised in Detroit, Michigan but 4 yrs ago when my husband retired we moved to near Branson, Missouri. He's not completely retired yet, but recently lost his job. Hopefully he'll find something soon. Ok, I think I've gone on long enough. If anyone has any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Regards, Elaine O'Neill

Hello Elaine: Apologies goes out to you, your families, and to anyone if I have offended - it is *not* intentional. I should have taken my query to another list/board because of the nature of what this one is/does. Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in passenger lists for ships from Germany. The list supplements the database contained on the Saxony Roots Passenger Lists website. Therefore, I will take my curiosity elsewhere... Thanks! Regards, --Manaia Elaine O'Neill <elaineoneill1948@gmail.com> wrote: All I can say on the pronounciations is that our Maleschefsky definitely sounded like "Malashefski". Elaine --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near historic lows: $150,000 loan as low as $579/mo. Intro-*Terms