Will you do me a favor? I have to start over on finding my gfathers sister,Ida Weintraub Hertzberg,All that I know for sure is that she and husband do not live in Chicago like her brothers-which is the thought . Her husbands name is Joseph and are from Latvia.The rest of the information that I have is wrong..For one thing, on dc it does not give her parents as Weintraub-Philip & Molly Goldman- Nor right birth date-I have been going acording to my gfathers birthday which is 1871,April 29-they list her date in 1891 and her death in 1985.If she was born then, she would not have any children but she had four children when she immigrated in 1904-06- Give me some suggestions-can you see when she immigrated and when she was born?

Could this be him? This is from Germans to America CD. Passenger's Name: Heinrich Moll Age: 20 Gender: Male Occupation: Cooper Last Residence: Germany Date of Arrival: Aug. 07, 1882 Final Destination: USA Ship's Name: Schiedam Manifest ID Number: 36798 Port of Embarkation: Ansterdam In a message dated 11/11/2006 8:11:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Fitnsworks@aol.com writes: I am researching my husband's family and there is a Rudolph Moll who is in the 1910 census. He was a cousin of Mary Streib. He was Herman Rudolph Moll, born Oct 23, 1863, district: Neckarsulm. Birthplace: Moeckmuehl Destination North America, application to emigrate was made in Sept of 1881, # 531783. Who knows. Verna Spier

thank you..... ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bbfritch@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ship List > Try _www.immigrantships.net/index.html_ > (http://www.immigrantships.net/index.html) > > Betty > FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am researching my husband's family and there is a Rudolph Moll who is in the 1910 census. He was a cousin of Mary Streib. He was Herman Rudolph Moll, born Oct 23, 1863, district: Neckarsulm. Birthplace: Moeckmuehl Destination North America, application to emigrate was made in Sept of 1881, # 531783. Who knows. Verna Spier

thank you - will try. I have very little info. on Liesch's ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Van Laeys" <njtransplant@cox.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Fung Raith & Kreszenz Amberger >I think if you go to the opening page of rootsweb you might find ships > lists. Marie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Bishlark@aol.com> > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <prclbischoff@sbcglobal.net> > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:25 AM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Fung Raith & Kreszenz Amberger > > >> In a message dated 11/10/2006 10:37:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, >> peppy39@centurytel.net writes: >> >> Can you tell me how to get the ship lists - I don't know name or no., >> but >> do >> have approximate year. >> One can find ships by years listed somewhere on ancestry.com. I don't >> know >> the full answer or how to? >> >> Clifford Bischoff >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think Wikipedia has an article on this; this topic came up recently maybe on another list. Second message: Additional note. I just now looked up Bavaria in Wikipedia and it explains it all. C L Bischoff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 11/11/2006 12:47:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, drawerkamp@cox.net writes: I have some ancestors from Amorbach and Beuchen, Bavaria. In the US we list a city, county, and state to identify a location. I have looked at a number of maps and haven't been able to find the equivalent of a "county" for Germany. Somewhere I came up with Unterfranken for these towns, but can't find where any more. Can someone help me identify if this is correct, and more importantly, how to identify the "county" for other towns. Dwayne Awerkamp drawerkamp@cox.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Germany has one more layer or level than we do. My cousin is a Buergermeister (Mayor?) of Rimbach Gemeinde (community which includes a number of smaller villages) in Kreis Cham ( we would call that a county in every state but Louisiana where it is a parish) Oberpfalz (one of several administrative districts in Bavaria)(Is it seven?)I don't think we have an equivalent) Unterfranken is also one of the administrative districts. State (Land) of Bavaria. Then there are also Cities not attached to a county. Stadt ohne Kreis (Kreisfrei) (county free)or something like that. St Louis City in the USA is separate from St Louis County. I think Wikipedia has an article on this; this topic came up recently maybe on another list. C L Bischoff

I don't know if this is true for Ancestry, but, for my home county gen web list, they said that they won't make corrections, until after all the work is finished. But, they have added a feature where you can put a little note on the entry for corrections. At least, that's how I understand it. I had questioned about some names and dates mixed up on my relatives. For example, they gave Louisa Meier's name as Louisa Frantz. (No such person there, and they supposedly got that from the tombstone.) Some things in records, however, were just written by the original person doing the recording, the way it sounded to them, or they were just in a hurry and wrote fast, or the writing is just difficult to read. They probably will not want to correct the way the records were originally written, but they might be willling to add a little post it note with the correct information. I am still amazed at finally having someone send me the passenger list with my great-grandfather, Emil Conitz, on it, just yesterday. Last week, I had found his Declaration of Intention at the courthouse which has his ship, date of arrival, port of departure, etc. on it. I put out a query about that and someone very kindly found him right away. I never would have found him, myself! I had been searching for the ship "Adenmal" or "Adermal", as it was written on his document. And Emil Conitz, or just Conitz. No results. But, the person who responded , found him as Emanuel Conitz on the ship Admiral! I am so excited to know this, but just amazed at the change. Come to think of it, the way my grandfather said Emil, sounded a bit like Amuel, sometimes. (He was Emil Jr.) So, adding a German accent to that, no telling how it sounded to the person who was writing down the information. I was able to add a note on one passenger list when I thought I had found my great-grandfather, so that might be possible for you to do. They had a contact e-mail address, which is where I wrote. Cecelia in Texas Subject: Re: [BAVARIAN-ANCESTORS] [G-P-L] Fung Raith & Kreszenz Amberger I also found major misinterpretations of several passenger > lists. How do we go about getting Ancestry to make corrections? Just yesterday > I found "Jalint Masrshall, Florida" which was supposed to be "Jaluit, > Marshall Islands." No wonder I've been having such trouble getting my Grandfather > Schmidt from the islands to San Francisco! Bev> >

Try _www.immigrantships.net/index.html_ (http://www.immigrantships.net/index.html) Betty FL

Hi Lists, FYI - some time back, when I had an Ancestry membership, I found my Davis, misread as Mavis on the 1930 census. There was a procedure that I was able to use to notify Ancestry of error. The next time I pulled up the info, it was correctly listed as Davis. I don't know how quickly it was, but seems like the correction was made almost instantly. Tricia M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cecelia" <cheinric@tca.net> To: <bavarian-ancestors@rootsweb.com>; <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com>; <hmschmidt03@msn.com>; <Jjdittmer@aol.com>; ":" <prclbischoff@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [BAVARIAN-ANCESTORS] Corrections to Records > I don't know if this is true for Ancestry, but, for my home county gen > web list, they said that they won't make corrections, until after all the > work is finished. But, they have added a feature where you can put a > little > note on the entry for corrections. > At least, that's how I understand it. I had questioned about some names > and dates mixed up on my relatives. For example, they gave Louisa Meier's > name as Louisa Frantz. (No such person there, and they supposedly got > that > from the tombstone.) > Some things in records, however, were just written by the original person > doing the recording, the way it sounded to them, or they were just in a > hurry and wrote fast, or the writing is just difficult to read. > They probably will not want to correct the way the records were > originally > written, but they might be willling to add a little post it note with the > correct information. > I am still amazed at finally having someone send me the passenger list > with my great-grandfather, Emil Conitz, on it, just yesterday. Last week, > I > had found his Declaration of Intention at the courthouse which has his > ship, > date of arrival, port of departure, etc. on it. I put out a query about > that and someone very kindly found him right away. > I never would have found him, myself! I had been searching for the ship > "Adenmal" or "Adermal", as it was written on his document. And Emil > Conitz, > or just Conitz. No results. > But, the person who responded , found him as Emanuel Conitz on the ship > Admiral! > I am so excited to know this, but just amazed at the change. Come to > think of it, the way my grandfather said Emil, sounded a bit like Amuel, > sometimes. (He was Emil Jr.) So, adding a German accent to that, no > telling > how it sounded to the person who was writing down the information. > I was able to add a note on one passenger list when I thought I had found > my great-grandfather, so that might be possible for you to do. They had a > contact e-mail address, which is where I wrote. > Cecelia in Texas > > > > Subject: Re: [BAVARIAN-ANCESTORS] [G-P-L] Fung Raith & Kreszenz Amberger > > > I also found major misinterpretations of several passenger >> lists. > How do we go about getting Ancestry to make corrections? Just yesterday >> I found "Jalint Masrshall, Florida" which was supposed to be "Jaluit, >> Marshall Islands." > No wonder I've been having such trouble getting my Grandfather >> Schmidt from the islands to San Francisco! Bev>

In a message dated 11/10/2006 10:37:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, peppy39@centurytel.net writes: Can you tell me how to get the ship lists - I don't know name or no., but do have approximate year. One can find ships by years listed somewhere on ancestry.com. I don't know the full answer or how to? Clifford Bischoff

I think if you go to the opening page of rootsweb you might find ships lists. Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bishlark@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Cc: <prclbischoff@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Fung Raith & Kreszenz Amberger > In a message dated 11/10/2006 10:37:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, > peppy39@centurytel.net writes: > > Can you tell me how to get the ship lists - I don't know name or no., but > do > have approximate year. > One can find ships by years listed somewhere on ancestry.com. I don't know > the full answer or how to? > > Clifford Bischoff > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can you tell me how to get the ship lists - I don't know name or no., but do have approximate year. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bishlark@aol.com> To: <bavarian-ancestors@rootsweb.com>; <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Cc: <hmschmidt03@msn.com>; <Jjdittmer@aol.com>; <prclbischoff@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Fung Raith & Kreszenz Amberger > Greetings, > > For many years I have sought my granduncle Frank Raith born in 1885 in > Bavaria Germany. > > Yesterday I used the free offer from ancestry.com. > > I found a Fung Raith. > > Looking at the original it was obvious it was Franz Raith, my man. All > details on the manifest of November 1907 checked out exactly. The > transcriber read > Franz as Fung. > > Now I seek help for one Kreszenz or Creszenz Amberger born in Zenching, > Oberpfalz, Cham, Bavaria in 1884 and came to USA, Langlade County in 1904. > She > was my grandmother. She married Michael Raith in 1904 and when he was > killed by > lightning in 1916 she married his brother Alois (Louis) in 1919. Alois was > my > grandfather. > > I have not been able to find her in any ship list and have not come up > with > any creative alternatives for name spelling. Who would have thought of > Fung > for Franz but when I saw the original manifest it was obvious. > > I welcome any and all help. > > Clifford Louis Bischoff > > Thank you for the person who discovered that my granduncle Wolfgang Raith > was transcribed on Castle Garden site as Wolfgang Laith. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Dwayne, the german equivalent for the county in the USA is called "Landkreis". The village of Amorbach is located in the Landkreis called Miltenberg. Unterfranken is first of all the name of a regional area and second the name for a governmental district of the federal state of Bavaria. So it's Amorbach in the --> county of Miltenberg in the --> district Unterfranken in the --> federal state of Bavaria ZIP-Code for Amorbach is 63916 Beuchen is integral part of the village Amorbach since 1975. Regards Malte Witt -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com]Im Auftrag von D Awerkamp Gesendet: Freitag, 10. November 2006 21:11 An: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Betreff: [G-P-L] Location Names I have some ancestors from Amorbach and Beuchen, Bavaria. In the US we list a city, county, and state to identify a location. I have looked at a number of maps and haven't been able to find the equivalent of a "county" for Germany. Somewhere I came up with Unterfranken for these towns, but can't find where any more. Can someone help me identify if this is correct, and more importantly, how to identify the "county" for other towns. Dwayne Awerkamp drawerkamp@cox.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I lived on Kwajalein, Marshall Islands for several years and have been to most of the islands. Can not imagine someone leaving the beautiful islands. During WWII however most of the islands were invaded by the Americans once occupied by the Japanese. My father used to fly each day to work on a small plane to an island Majuro. As you probably know that the islands are a US Missile Base. Saw many of them being launched as a young child. The Marshallese used to row boats over to our island, American occupied, and sell their goods. Great Memories. -- Terie McGovern -------------- Original message -------------- From: Moll1942@aol.com > Hi Clifford: I also found major misinterpretations of several passenger > lists. How do we go about getting Ancestry to make corrections? Just > yesterday > I found "Jalint Masrshall, Florida" which was supposed to be "Jaluit, > Marshall Islands." No wonder I've been having such trouble getting my > Grandfather > Schmidt from the islands to San Francisco! Bev Colgin (moll1942@aol.com) > mainly researching Br? Hoffmeister, Moll, Mook, Reiher, Renken and Utz > families. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

F. Fritsch Born 1835 Departure--Bremen, Germany Arrival--24 May 1852--New Orleans, Lousiana New Orleans Passenger List-1820-1945 Jerrald Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bbfritch@aol.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Friedrich Fritsch/Frotsch > In looking for my Friedrich Fritsch b 1835 in Germany, I have found > Friedrich Frotsch who landed in New Orleans on ship Ernestine May 1852, > age 17. > Since my Fred's naturalization papers said he landed New Orleans May > 1851, I'm > wondering if this isn't him with the date off a year... Further, an > Andreas > Nesselrodt was on the same ship. I have written to a relative of Andrew > Nesselrodt who lived in the same county as Fred Fritsch - Pope Co, IL, to > confirm > that this was her relative. The ship's record said both were going to > IL! > Maybe, maybe!! > > Anyone know how I can get more information on this Friedrich Frotsch? > > Betty > FL > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In looking for my Friedrich Fritsch b 1835 in Germany, I have found Friedrich Frotsch who landed in New Orleans on ship Ernestine May 1852, age 17. Since my Fred's naturalization papers said he landed New Orleans May 1851, I'm wondering if this isn't him with the date off a year... Further, an Andreas Nesselrodt was on the same ship. I have written to a relative of Andrew Nesselrodt who lived in the same county as Fred Fritsch - Pope Co, IL, to confirm that this was her relative. The ship's record said both were going to IL! Maybe, maybe!! Anyone know how I can get more information on this Friedrich Frotsch? Betty FL

Thank you very much, guess I didn't look hard enough! I will submit the corrections today. Bev Colgin (moll1942@aol.com) mainly researching Brünjes, Hoffmeister, Moll, Mook, Reiher, Renken and Utz families.

Hello Clifford, Your ancestor's first name was probably Kresenzia/Cresenzia. She later went by the name of Grace {this name change would be a real nightmare for German family researchers wouldn't it!). You wrote that you can't come up with 'creative alternate spellings', try the Ellis Island site and in the search field type only the surname, i.e. "Amberger". It will then list every imagineable spelling and mispelling of that name. When you are sure that Grace came in 1904 [at least that's what she said on the 1910 census] you will have no choice but to click on each of the surnames to see if there is a Kresenzia or similar person hiding behind that surname. Do not type in her first name or the first letter of her first name, only the surname. I had to do that one time but luckily I found the person before I had to go through the entire list. Happy hunting! Ursula from Michigan Bishlark@aol.com wrote: > Greetings, > > For many years I have sought my granduncle Frank Raith born in 1885 in > Bavaria Germany. > > Yesterday I used the free offer from ancestry.com. > > I found a Fung Raith. >

I have some ancestors from Amorbach and Beuchen, Bavaria. In the US we list a city, county, and state to identify a location. I have looked at a number of maps and haven't been able to find the equivalent of a "county" for Germany. Somewhere I came up with Unterfranken for these towns, but can't find where any more. Can someone help me identify if this is correct, and more importantly, how to identify the "county" for other towns. Dwayne Awerkamp drawerkamp@cox.net