Johann Therres Arrival Date: 18 May 1863 Estimated birth: Abt 1826 Age 37 Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium Destination: USA Port of Arrival: New York Line :19 Microfilm Serial: M237 Microfilm Roll: M237_228 List Number: 432 Port Arrival State: New York Jerrald Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Holmquist" <bigswede@webdsi.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:56 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Emigration info,Johann Terres/Therres, b, 23 Feb 1826 Hi Folks! Would someone, please, tell me when and from what port and ship Johann Terres/Therres, b, 23 Feb 1826 in Fließem, Kr. Bitburg, Rheinland, Prussia, emigrated to America? Thanks, Ron ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks! Would someone, please, tell me when and from what port and ship Johann Terres/Therres, b, 23 Feb 1826 in Fließem, Kr. Bitburg, Rheinland, Prussia, emigrated to America? Thanks, Ron

The same situation applied to the early settlers' in New Zealand with the Maori race. Most were driven away by religious bigotry, but don't ask the names of those religion's, too numerous!. Dafur is a modern day type. Les. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Conrad Luhmann" <cluhmann@ec.rr.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] courage > I agree and often wonder what drove these people to leave their homeland. I > found, in a ship passenger book, a Luhmann family of 1 mother and 6 children > coming in to Philadelphia in 1848. They were then going to the Dakotas, at > least most of the way by wagon. I wouldn't want to take 6 children on an > airplane trip to Europe. But I guess they were well-behaved in those days. > > I'm certainly glad they made the effort even if many died in the trying. > > Conrad > > Conrad Luhmann > 910-799-2139 > cluhmann@ec.rr.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maria > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:47 PM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G-P-L] courage > > > I know that 100+ years ago, if I would have had to travel west in the USA, > in a covered wagon, with Indians, wolves, weather, etc., I probably would > have been buried out on the prairie before the end of the journey. > > Maria > > > > >> Next time we want to get a sense of how difficult it might have been > >> to > >> be > >> understood, try translating a document written in German of any other > >> language besides your native tongue (and without a dictionary or COMPUTER > >> translation program.) I think these folks were down right heroic to leave > >> everything they knew to travel to a new land when they didn't have cable > >> TV > >> broadcasting the landscape or opportunities here. Somehow they made it > >> without cellphones, cable, High speed internet, planes, trains, and > >> automobiles. I am still in awe of their courage and sheers guts. > >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can ask your friend if any of this is familiar. There is always a chance we are related. My gr-grandfather was John Conrad Schubert, b, 13 Aug 1834 in Bavaria Prussia. He settled in St. Louis. Don't know the name of John Conrad's parents. Do know he had several brothers and sisters. Those born in Prussia were John, Peter, Eva (Maria) & Henry. George was born in 1844 at sea. Edward (Charlie) and Minnie were born in St. Louis. Thanks. Lorraine

Hi Robert - Was this the URL where you downloaded a font? http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Reading_Help -or- You can create your own personal page at GenWiki-en and put it there. Just follow these steps if you want to go that route: http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/wiki/Nightschool I have a Mac too and haven't had a problem with uploading files or .png, .jpg, etc. at that location. It is associated with Germany Passenger Lists, Saxony Roots, et al. Kathleen Robert Ridenour <rwridenour@shelbywb.coop> wrote: At one time, there was a website given on this list where one could download a German script font. SInce I downloaded it, I had a hard drive crash and lost the font (That will teach me to back up things!). Can any one tell me where to download that font again (Macintosh version)? Thanks for your help, Robert W. Ridenour 4814 Loop Road Dorsey, IL 62021-1014 --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

I know a Schubert. Roger and Karen. They are not listed but would tell them about you if you are interested. They live in Tucson, AZ. Ellen

There are a ton of people by the last name of MEYER in the phone book for Henry County in the Napoleon and Floridia areas. This doesn't help you find the mispelled name but this is the most common version at this time. Jean in Indiana

At one time, there was a website given on this list where one could download a German script font. SInce I downloaded it, I had a hard drive crash and lost the font (That will teach me to back up things!). Can any one tell me where to download that font again (Macintosh version)? Thanks for your help, Robert W. Ridenour 4814 Loop Road Dorsey, IL 62021-1014 On Nov 23, 2006, at 12:56 AM, Cecelia wrote: > This is the site I found. Very interesting. And kind of fun, too. I > spent > hours "writing" names! > http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Write_your_name.htm > > With actual handwriting, there is probably more roundness, possibly > more > scribbles, but it looks like this would be very hard to read, if you > were > not trained to write and read this style. > > This is the home page: > > http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Titel.htm > > Cecelia > > > > > >> Would you still have the address that transcribes names to old >> script? >> That may be av good tool to have! HAPPY HOLIDAYS > >> >> I had wondered about my great-grandfather's name, Emil Conitz, being >> listed >> as Emmanuel Conita or Conitr on the passenger list of the Admiral. >> However, I looked at a site that lets you select letters for your >> name, >> and >> then your name is written out as it would look in the old German >> script. >> His name does resemble, to this untrained eye, at least, Emmanuel, >> in the >> old script. >> I had thought that, perhaps, the person doing the writing heard it as >> A-mu-el, which is the way I have heard some people pronounce Emil. >> It >> could >> have sounded that way, which sounds a little like Emanuel. My dad >> pronounced Conitz (Con-its) as Con-itsh, though no one else in the >> family >> did, including the older people. >> Cecelia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Dear Joan, I am fluently in reading the old german scripts. Between 1600 and 1942 here were (before the Suettlerlin script mad 5 to 1) FIVE several scripts in the german language regions. I am 39, have never learned to write it. In the last years I translated for my familyresearch tons of those documents. I wolud be very glad to translate them for you. Werner J. Lichter city of Trier, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany ############################################################ -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Joan Yeckel [mailto:jey1@swbell.net] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. November 2006 19:56 An: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [G-P-L] Tool for Writing Names in Suetterlinschrift Kabel Deutschland bietet Ihnen Fernsehen, Internet und Telefonie aus einer Hand. Informieren Sie sich über unsere Produkte unter www.kabeldeutschland.de Diese E-Mail und etwaige Anhänge enthalten vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind, benachrichtigen Sie bitte den Absender und vernichten Sie anschließend diese Mail und die Anlagen.

Hello, I was wondering what Michael's you were related to, my husband's grandmother was a Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOROTHY MICHAEL" <dotjuan1@msn.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com>; <bikerjudy@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: [G-P-L] HAHN Family > Hi, Judy. I saw your list of surnames and noticed HAHN. I have HAHNs on my > mother's side and wonder whether any of this information sounds familiar. > > My great X3 grandfather, Philipp HAHN (b. 1826) came to America from > Kriftel, Germany on the Peter Hattrick out of Antwerp, and arrived in New > York on 25 October 1851. He settled in Lancaster, PA. Phillip's brother, > Henry (Heinrich) HAHN (b. 1823) had come over in 1849. He spent a few > years in Pennsylvania before moving to Wisconsin around 1859. A third > brother was John (Johann) HAHN (b. 1835) who arrived in 1853 and settled > in Reading, PA. > > Phillip had a son, also Phillip, who ended up in Iowa. If anything sounds > familiar, I will send more detail. > > Happy Hunting! > > Dot Michael > Dresher, PA > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Apologies Kathleen and others, but I missed the initial posting in regard to the Ship Olbers Passenger List. RE: > Ship Name: Olbers > Departure: Bremen, Germany > Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana > Arrival Date: 26 Oct 1852 Would it be too much trouble for you to check the passenger manifest for the surname SCHWANDT or surname of similar spelling? Thank you, Bette

I agree and often wonder what drove these people to leave their homeland. I found, in a ship passenger book, a Luhmann family of 1 mother and 6 children coming in to Philadelphia in 1848. They were then going to the Dakotas, at least most of the way by wagon. I wouldn't want to take 6 children on an airplane trip to Europe. But I guess they were well-behaved in those days. I'm certainly glad they made the effort even if many died in the trying. Conrad Conrad Luhmann 910-799-2139 cluhmann@ec.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maria Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:47 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: [G-P-L] courage I know that 100+ years ago, if I would have had to travel west in the USA, in a covered wagon, with Indians, wolves, weather, etc., I probably would have been buried out on the prairie before the end of the journey. Maria >> Next time we want to get a sense of how difficult it might have been >> to >> be >> understood, try translating a document written in German of any other >> language besides your native tongue (and without a dictionary or COMPUTER >> translation program.) I think these folks were down right heroic to leave >> everything they knew to travel to a new land when they didn't have cable >> TV >> broadcasting the landscape or opportunities here. Somehow they made it >> without cellphones, cable, High speed internet, planes, trains, and >> automobiles. I am still in awe of their courage and sheers guts. >> > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Instead of entering your tree - go to the bottom of the page to 'Begin.' I belong, so I get 'you already have access,' but before I told them this a.m., seems like I could get in that way by putting in my name and e-mail. Betty FL I tried this site, but found only a free online tree-building and not access to their search engines. I would have liked to conduct a census search, but would have had to go insert too much information too many generations back in order for their search engine to look for my specific people. There have been better "free trials" at Ancestry. The catch to their typical free trial, where you plug in a name and search all the databases, is you have to give them your credit card. If you don't cancel before the last day of the free trial, you will be charged for a subscription. Went through this with them once before, and while I had to work to get the charged reversed (I cancelled before the deadline), they did finally credit it back to me. Buyer, or free-user, beware. Susan In a message dated 11/22/06 7:01:29 PM, Rockychip@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 11/22/2006 8:14:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > saxonyroots@charter.net writes: > > http://www.freegenie.net/holiday > >

My George Marquis Hahn b. 1816 Saxony came to CT in 1853.....Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybuggc@sbcglobal.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "DOROTHY MICHAEL" <dotjuan1@msn.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com>; <bikerjudy@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: [G-P-L] HAHN Family > Hi, Judy. I saw your list of surnames and noticed HAHN. I have HAHNs on my > mother's side and wonder whether any of this information sounds familiar. > > My great X3 grandfather, Philipp HAHN (b. 1826) came to America from > Kriftel, Germany on the Peter Hattrick out of Antwerp, and arrived in New > York on 25 October 1851. He settled in Lancaster, PA. Phillip's brother, > Henry (Heinrich) HAHN (b. 1823) had come over in 1849. He spent a few > years in Pennsylvania before moving to Wisconsin around 1859. A third > brother was John (Johann) HAHN (b. 1835) who arrived in 1853 and settled > in Reading, PA. > > Phillip had a son, also Phillip, who ended up in Iowa. If anything sounds > familiar, I will send more detail. > > Happy Hunting! > > Dot Michael > Dresher, PA > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 11/23/2006 3:48:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, NOSHOWCLC@aol.com writes: tried this site, but found only a free online tree-building and not access to their search engines. I would have liked to conduct a census search, but would have had to go insert too much information too many generations back in order for their search engine to look for my specific people. There have been better "free trials" at Ancestry. Greetings, I got trapped in that maze also. There is a way around it. I was able to get in without giving my belt size (44) and trouser length (30). (smile)(too much turkey for too many years) Clifford Louis Bischoff

Cecelia, Thank you so much for the website. It will be of great help with the many letters and documents that I am trying to translate. The"letter changing tool' is so interesting and is fun to use. Joan Schaller Yeckel St, Louis, MO Cecelia wrote: >This is the site I found. Very interesting. And kind of fun, too. I spent >hours "writing" names! >http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Write_your_name.htm > >With actual handwriting, there is probably more roundness, possibly more >scribbles, but it looks like this would be very hard to read, if you were >not trained to write and read this style. > >This is the home page: > >http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Titel.htm > >Cecelia > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Lorraine, There were not any Schuebert / Schubert / Shuberts. I checked the names for "Sch", "Sh" or "Ch" - These were surnames on that particular voyage that I read off the manifest (not from Ancestry transcribers) ... Frederick Schuerfranz Christian Schnarr Kunigunde Schnarr John. Peter Schnarr Johannes Schnarr Catherin Schnarr Michael Schnarr Frederica Scherlage Sophy Scherlage Augustus Scherlage William Scherlage Christopher Schrameck Lewis Schneider Mary Schneider (Marg.?) Frederick H. Schwepmann Sophy Schwepmann Lewis Schwepmann Francis Schwepmann Caroline Schwepmann Frederick William Schroeder Sorry, Kathleen RE: Ship Name: Olbers Departure: Bremen, Germany Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana Arrival Date: 26 Oct 1852 --- Leroy Rehmer <weber5227@sbcglobal.net> wrote: Are there any SCHUBERT / Shubert listed??? Thanks. Lorraine ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

Hi, Judy. I saw your list of surnames and noticed HAHN. I have HAHNs on my mother's side and wonder whether any of this information sounds familiar. My great X3 grandfather, Philipp HAHN (b. 1826) came to America from Kriftel, Germany on the Peter Hattrick out of Antwerp, and arrived in New York on 25 October 1851. He settled in Lancaster, PA. Phillip's brother, Henry (Heinrich) HAHN (b. 1823) had come over in 1849. He spent a few years in Pennsylvania before moving to Wisconsin around 1859. A third brother was John (Johann) HAHN (b. 1835) who arrived in 1853 and settled in Reading, PA. Phillip had a son, also Phillip, who ended up in Iowa. If anything sounds familiar, I will send more detail. Happy Hunting! Dot Michael Dresher, PA

We had the same trouble with AOL. They took money from my bank account for several years, although we cancelled before the free period was up, before we finally got it stopped by closing the account and going to the bank, and lots of paperwork. We couldn't figure out why we were always short, and it was AOL still taking money out. However, there is actually a free offer for Ancestry.com until Nov.30. I went in to it, but haven't had time to use it. I had to renew my password, but you don't have to give a credit card number. Later, I'll go back in my e-mails and find that link that was sent out and send it to you. Have to finish dressing. We're not cooking this year, but going to a cafeteria, since there are only 5 of us left in the family. Plus one in a nursing home, who we will go see after eating. Taking pies to the nursing home. So different from our large family gatherings. We didn't know what to do this year, with such a few of us! More later. Cecelia in Texas >I tried this site, but found only a free online tree-building and not >access > to their search engines. I would have liked to conduct a census search, > but > would have had to go insert too much information too many generations back > in > order for their search engine to look for my specific people. There have > been better "free trials" at Ancestry. > > The catch to their typical free trial, where you plug in a name and search > all the databases, is you have to give them your credit card. If you > don't > cancel before the last day of the free trial, you will be charged for a > subscription. Went through this with them once before, and while I had > to work to get > the charged reversed (I cancelled before the deadline), they did finally > credit it back to me. > Buyer, or free-user, beware. > Susan >

Thank you so much, happy thanksgiving. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cecelia<mailto:cheinric@tca.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com<mailto:germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Tool for Writing Names in Suetterlinschrift This is the site I found. Very interesting. And kind of fun, too. I spent hours "writing" names! http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Write_your_name.htm<http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Write_your_name.htm> With actual handwriting, there is probably more roundness, possibly more scribbles, but it looks like this would be very hard to read, if you were not trained to write and read this style. This is the home page: http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Titel.htm<http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Titel.htm> Cecelia > Would you still have the address that transcribes names to old script? > That may be av good tool to have! HAPPY HOLIDAYS > > I had wondered about my great-grandfather's name, Emil Conitz, being > listed > as Emmanuel Conita or Conitr on the passenger list of the Admiral. > However, I looked at a site that lets you select letters for your name, > and > then your name is written out as it would look in the old German script. > His name does resemble, to this untrained eye, at least, Emmanuel, in the > old script. > I had thought that, perhaps, the person doing the writing heard it as > A-mu-el, which is the way I have heard some people pronounce Emil. It > could > have sounded that way, which sounds a little like Emanuel. My dad > pronounced Conitz (Con-its) as Con-itsh, though no one else in the family > did, including the older people. > Cecelia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message