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    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship May Flower
    2. Hello, ugh, Ursula, don´t mix it up .... This was the jounger "May Flower", this ship started in 1841 on sea. In July 1846 this ship brought a lot of passengers from the region of Trier (the villages of Bekond, Schweich, Ittel, Alscheid,...) And in November 2dn 1847 from Antwerpen otheres from this area, including the Yakel (Jaekel) family from Wallhausen near Bad Kreuznach (just 80 miles east of Trier). Werner J. Lichter Trier, Germany ########################### -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ed Mashmann [mailto:emashma1@nycap.rr.com] Gesendet: Montag, 11. Dezember 2006 14:50 An: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower Ursula's comment gave me a chuckle. > > john p. Schalles wrote: >> Would like info on the "Mayflower". My grandfather immigrated to the U.S. >> in 1846 on this sailing vessel. Can anyone provide details on this >> sailing vessel, i.e length weight, etc. passenger capacity, picture >> etc..Any info will be most appreciated. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> . >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Kabel Deutschland bietet Ihnen Fernsehen, Internet und Telefonie aus einer Hand. Informieren Sie sich über unsere Produkte unter www.kabeldeutschland.de Diese E-Mail und etwaige Anhänge enthalten vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind, benachrichtigen Sie bitte den Absender und vernichten Sie anschließend diese Mail und die Anlagen.

    12/11/2006 08:41:28
    1. [G-P-L] Hoffmann / Hoffman / Huffman
    2. Mark Schizkoske
    3. I am researching my German roots. I have reached my roadblock at my great-great- grandparents. Can anyone help me find immigration data to Canada or data from Germany. Here are the details I have so far: I have some details on my great-great grandparents: They are: Wilhelm Hoffmann was a doctor in Germany Born 4 Oct 1839 or 25 Sept 1839 Immigrated 1864 age 25 Died 16 Nov 1913 Birth Place: Crasne Guben, Franfurt / Oder BR Settled in Wilberforce, Ontario, Canada buried in Bethlehem church cemetary - Wilberforce, Ontario, Canada Wife - Caroline Hoffmann (Binder) Born 8 Jan 1840 or 18 Dec 1840 Immigrated 1864 Died - 26 July 1909 Settled in Wilberforce, Ontario, Canada buried in Bethlehem church cemetary - Wilberforce, Ontario, Canada My second set of great great grandparents are: Carl G. Hoffmann Born 28 Nov 1830 Died 20 August 1908 Birthplace: Lemmersdorf Arnswalde Franfurt Oder BR I do not yet have his immigration date He settled in Wilberforce, Ontario, Canada buried in Bethlehem church cemetary - Wilberforce, Ontario, Canada His wife was: Florentine Zulk (sorry - no more info on her yet) Their son; my Great Grandfather was: August Theodore Hoffmann (Teddy) Born 4 March 1860 or 1859 Died 1951 Born in Landorf Germany Immigrated in 1864 This is all I have so far, I have just started my research and will appreciate any information you all have Mark Schizkoske

    12/11/2006 04:55:45
    1. [G-P-L] Looking for
    2. Judie Miracle
    3. Maria Wickertsheim and son Joh They sailed in 1869 from Baden. Arrived in Ohio before the census of 1870. Looking for the ship the sailed on and date of arrival in the US Thanks Judie Miracle

    12/11/2006 04:14:26
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower
    2. dlks
    3. Oh? How so ... the indifference to the possibility of more than one "Mayflower", or the ( possible ) statement that John didn't know his history? Strange that no retraction ( or "I'm sorry" ) is / was posted. Dick researching SCHWEISS, MEIER, SCHMIDT / SCHMITT Visit my website at: http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Mashmann" <emashma1@nycap.rr.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower > Ursula's comment gave me a chuckle. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dlks [mailto:dlks@harbornet.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 2:26 PM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower > > > Err ... Maybe there was another "Mayflower" ? It's not impossible ... > don't make assumptions, or insults. > > Dick > > > researching SCHWEISS, MEIER, SCHMIDT / SCHMITT > Visit my website at: > http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory2.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ursula B. Adamson" <ubatrans@klondyke.net> > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:10 AM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower > > >> Sorry John, but I think your ancestor missed the boat by two hundred some >> odd years, which >> sailed in 1620. >> >> >> john p. Schalles wrote: >>> Would like info on the "Mayflower". My grandfather immigrated to the >>> U.S. >>> in 1846 on this sailing vessel. Can anyone provide details on this >>> sailing vessel, i.e length weight, etc. passenger capacity, picture >>> etc..Any info will be most appreciated. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> . >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    12/11/2006 03:46:09
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower
    2. Ed Mashmann
    3. Ursula's comment gave me a chuckle. -----Original Message----- From: dlks [mailto:dlks@harbornet.com] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 2:26 PM To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower Err ... Maybe there was another "Mayflower" ? It's not impossible ... don't make assumptions, or insults. Dick researching SCHWEISS, MEIER, SCHMIDT / SCHMITT Visit my website at: http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula B. Adamson" <ubatrans@klondyke.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower > Sorry John, but I think your ancestor missed the boat by two hundred some > odd years, which > sailed in 1620. > > > john p. Schalles wrote: >> Would like info on the "Mayflower". My grandfather immigrated to the U.S. >> in 1846 on this sailing vessel. Can anyone provide details on this >> sailing vessel, i.e length weight, etc. passenger capacity, picture >> etc..Any info will be most appreciated. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> . >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    12/11/2006 01:50:29
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower
    2. Sorry folks there were several ships named the Mayflower check your history

    12/10/2006 07:30:34
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower
    2. dlks
    3. Err ... Maybe there was another "Mayflower" ? It's not impossible ... don't make assumptions, or insults. Dick researching SCHWEISS, MEIER, SCHMIDT / SCHMITT Visit my website at: http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula B. Adamson" <ubatrans@klondyke.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower > Sorry John, but I think your ancestor missed the boat by two hundred some > odd years, which > sailed in 1620. > > > john p. Schalles wrote: >> Would like info on the "Mayflower". My grandfather immigrated to the U.S. >> in 1846 on this sailing vessel. Can anyone provide details on this >> sailing vessel, i.e length weight, etc. passenger capacity, picture >> etc..Any info will be most appreciated. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> . >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    12/10/2006 04:26:13
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower
    2. Timothy Delabar
    3. Hi John The May Flower was build in 1841 at 247 tons for the aberdeen line and sold in 1849 to jamieson +co hope this helps ----- Original Message ----- From: john p. Schalles<mailto:tolschalles@juno.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com<mailto:germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower Would like info on the "Mayflower". My grandfather immigrated to the U.S. in 1846 on this sailing vessel. Can anyone provide details on this sailing vessel, i.e length weight, etc. passenger capacity, picture etc..Any info will be most appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/10/2006 03:32:22
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower
    2. Timothy Delabar
    3. John The MAYFLOWER arrived at Castlegarden, N.Y. on 18 July 1846 from Antwerp. ----- Original Message ----- From: john p. Schalles<mailto:tolschalles@juno.com> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com<mailto:germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower Would like info on the "Mayflower". My grandfather immigrated to the U.S. in 1846 on this sailing vessel. Can anyone provide details on this sailing vessel, i.e length weight, etc. passenger capacity, picture etc..Any info will be most appreciated. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/10/2006 01:49:41
    1. [G-P-L] UK Certificate of Arrival 1836 - JACKMAN / MULLER / SCHLAUR / COERS? / OTTO? / BLANKE(E) / HOLTZEN / CARDS?
    2. Pearl
    3. I have a Certificate of Arrival No. 2096 issued Port of London dated 2 September 1836. From looking at other certificates in the book there is normally one name to a page or perhaps one name plus a servant, etc. On Cert 2096 which includes my husbands ggg.grandfather there are possibly 8 people, all from Hambro (would this have been Hamburg?). The first is Johann Heinrich JACKMAN and the others are Claus MULLER, Carl Heinrich SCHLAUR, Johann COERS ?, Claus OTTO ?, Johann Heinrich BLANK(E), Claus Heinrich HOLTZEN & Johann *** CARDS? The signature of the bearer at the bottom is Johann Heinrich JACKMAN. Was it usual for one person to bring a group of men over to the UK ? Would they have all come from one village/town in Germany? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Regards Pearl -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 09/12/2006 15:41

    12/10/2006 01:31:51
    1. Re: [G-P-L] UK Certificate of Arrival 1836 - JACKMAN / MULLER / SCHLAUR / COERS? / OTTO? / BLANKE(E) / HOLTZEN / CARDS?
    2. kajh
    3. Hi Pearl, How are you doing today? There were certainly independent agents or agencies who would recruit workers from "foreign" lands. However in this case, I am wondering about the term "Hambro" as it may refer to England itself. Hambro was a United Synogogue effort, if-you-will, based in London, who who sponsor Jewish refugees from other countries to immigrate to London. The term was first coined in 1704. These Ashkenazi communities were involved in this at various time periods in England. It was an Anglo Jewish ministry. Hamburg direct immigration lists begin in 1850 as based on information from the FHL microfilm reels. There may be earlier reconstructed lists which I may not be aware of at this time. There could actually be a place name of Hambro. I am just throwing this suggestion out there, as a possibility. Best of luck, Kathleen ________________________________________ --- Pearl <pearl.16@ntlworld.com> wrote: I have a Certificate of Arrival No. 2096 issued Port of London dated 2 Sepember 1836.... On Cert 2096 which includes my husbands ggg.grandfather there are possibly 8 people, all from Hambro (would this have been Hamburg?). The first is Johann Heinrich JACKMAN and the others are Claus MULLER, Carl Heinrich SCHLAUR, Johann COERS ?, Claus OTTO ?, Johann Heinrich BLANK(E), Claus Heinrich HOLTZEN & Johann *** CARDS? The signature of the bearer at the bottom is Johann Heinrich JACKMAN. Was it usual for one person to bring a group of men over to the UK ? Would they have all come from one village/town in Germany? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com

    12/10/2006 12:13:28
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower
    2. Ursula B. Adamson
    3. Sorry John, but I think your ancestor missed the boat by two hundred some odd years, which sailed in 1620. john p. Schalles wrote: > Would like info on the "Mayflower". My grandfather immigrated to the U.S. > in 1846 on this sailing vessel. Can anyone provide details on this > sailing vessel, i.e length weight, etc. passenger capacity, picture > etc..Any info will be most appreciated. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > . >

    12/10/2006 12:10:39
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower
    2. kajh
    3. Hi John, You can find more information on the following: -Bark Mayflower -Brig Mayflower -Schooner Mayflower -Ship Mayflower American Lloyd's Register of American and Foreign Shipping Record of American and Foreign Shipping http://www.mysticseaport.org/library/initiative/MsList.cfm click on "Search Ship Registers" on the left. Then enter Mayflower as your ship search term. The years 1845 - 1847 may be earlier than their archived records. If so, check records at www.theshipslist.com Good luck! Kathleen __________ --- "john p. Schalles" <tolschalles@juno.com> wrote: "... Would like info on the "Mayflower". My grandfather immigrated to the U.S. in 1846 on this sailing vessel. Can anyone provide details on this sailing vessel, i.e length weight, etc. passenger capacity, picture etc...." ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index

    12/09/2006 11:00:59
    1. [G-P-L] Ship Mayflower
    2. john p. Schalles
    3. Would like info on the "Mayflower". My grandfather immigrated to the U.S. in 1846 on this sailing vessel. Can anyone provide details on this sailing vessel, i.e length weight, etc. passenger capacity, picture etc..Any info will be most appreciated.

    12/09/2006 05:06:06
    1. [G-P-L] Fw: Hinkel-Radloff
    2. june
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: june To: GERMANY-PASSN\ENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: Fw: Hinkel-Radloff ----- Original Message ----- From: june To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Hinkel-Radloff New to the list. I have researched my (Johann Christian) HINKEL family back to Neu-Sarnow, Cammin Pommern, 1811. According to his naturalization papers, Johann C. Hinkel arrived in US, New York in May of 1876. I am trying to find his port of embarkation and the ship he arrived on. I have also researched my (Johann Ludwig) RADLOFF family back to Sebian, Pommern, 1802. Johann Ludwig and family arrived in New York July 17, 1868 on ship Reichstag, so do have their immigration data. June Foster

    12/09/2006 09:55:04
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Fw: Hinkel-Radloff
    2. Jerrald Lloyd
    3. Name Johann Hinkel Arrival Date---15 Aug 1867 Estimated birth year--abt 1808 Age---59 Gender---Male Port of Departure--Bremen, Germany and Cowes, Isle of Wight. Destination---USA Place of Origin---Germany Ethnicity/Race/Nationality--Germany Ship Name--Western Metropolis Port of Arrival--New York Line--47 Microfilm Serial--M237 Microfilm Roll M237_284 List Number--856 Port Arrival State--New York Port Arrival Country--United States Jerrald Lloyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "june" <jcfoster@snowcrest.net> To: <GERMANy-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Fw: Hinkel-Radloff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: june > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:22 AM > Subject: Hinkel-Radloff > > > New to the list. I have researched my (Johann Christian) HINKEL family > back to Neu-Sarnow, Cammin Pommern, 1811. According to his naturalization > papers, Johann C. Hinkel arrived in US, New York in May of 1876. I am > trying to find his port of embarkation and the ship he arrived on. I have > also researched my (Johann Ludwig) RADLOFF family back to Sebian, Pommern, > 1802. Johann Ludwig and family arrived in New York July 17, 1868 on ship > Reichstag, so do have their immigration data. > > June Foster > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    12/09/2006 08:15:11
    1. [G-P-L] Fw: Hinkel-Radloff
    2. june
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: june To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Hinkel-Radloff New to the list. I have researched my (Johann Christian) HINKEL family back to Neu-Sarnow, Cammin Pommern, 1811. According to his naturalization papers, Johann C. Hinkel arrived in US, New York in May of 1876. I am trying to find his port of embarkation and the ship he arrived on. I have also researched my (Johann Ludwig) RADLOFF family back to Sebian, Pommern, 1802. Johann Ludwig and family arrived in New York July 17, 1868 on ship Reichstag, so do have their immigration data. June Foster

    12/09/2006 05:54:42
    1. [G-P-L] GULDI on the vessel "BREMEN"
    2. Craig Oosterlinck
    3. Looking for documents for my greatgrandfather, Charles M. GULDI. Charles GULDI (my greatgrandfather on my mother`s side) emigrated from Bremen, Germany to the Port of New York, USA aboard the vessel, "Bremen." He was born in Wuerttemberg, Germany in the year 1857. His father`s name might have been John GULDI. He settled into Harbor Beach, Sand Beach Co., Michigan USA, where he married Alvina Miller b: 1863. His occupation was a farmer. He and Alvina had nine children, Alwyna ? b: 1891, Phillip b: 1893, William b: 1894, Edward b: 1896, Fred b:1897, Anna b: 1899, August b: 1900, Emil b: 1902, and Otto b: 1904, who died as an infant nine days after birth. I wish to obtain any ancestry information of the Guldi family in Germany or any other information anybody would like to share about this family. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/580 - Release Date: 12/8/2006 12:53 PM

    12/08/2006 04:36:56
    1. Re: [G-P-L] WELCOME
    2. Wolf Zscheile
    3. Wolf and other listers greetings My name is Robert Janmaat, Dutch by origin, now from Adelaide South Australia. We Migrated as a Family in 1986. on my wife side, on one side is decendant are from Michael Doody and Bridget Kennedy, both Irish migrated to South Australia in 1883 on the Ship "Hesperus" From Plymouth. On the other there are the Ochse, thise name was traced back to germany via South Afrika and the UK. My main interest and reason for joining this list. is as follows, at the moment i am working long term on a large project, of trancribing passenger list origionals from the UK and Germany for the internet. to date nearly 120 english and 30 German list are completed, thi work can be found on the net at this site http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/SAassistedindex.htm With the german list there are no origionals at all i am working from newspaper accounts and record that have survived, as a example the Auguste & Meline into Port Adelaide in April 1849 from Bremen as per below this list has been buildt froma number of sources the total arrived should read 113 at the moment i got 90 od. i hoping for some assistance from your list with completing list like these. Regards and thank you for the warm welcome, Robert Adelaide Barque Auguste & Meline 260 tons departed Births G. Von Lubcke Deaths Surg. Supt. arrived Departed Bremen 1848 Arrived Port Adelaide April 2 1849 Name G/name Age Occupation Bio BDM place of Comments index Origin Bahr Carl 47 Roadworker - - Clausthal Wife Child 17 Child 15 Child 13 Matilda 6 Julia 4 Domeyer Christian 25 Woodsman 416/1 Lerbach louise (Rosen) 24 Drechsler J. Heinrich - 44 Mason 428/1 Lerbach August Friedrich- Louise (Rosenberg) 38 Friedrich 16 Wilhelmine 9 Wilhelm 7 Emma 4 Louis 1 Ey J. Ferdinand 35 Mine Captain 479/1 Germany Je Henrietta Christiana 32 Julius William Ferdinand 2 Eyesfelder J. Carl 40 Shoemaker 479/2 Germany Wife Son Fuchs Wilhelm 37 Miner - M St. Andreasberg Wife - August Friedrich 7 Heinrich (Henry) Inf. Grosse George 41 Roadworker - D St. Andreasberg Charlotte (Lorenz) 43 ? Caroline Auguste 18 M Hahn Carl August 38 Miner - M Clausthal ? Caroline (Schulz) 49 August 18 Ore Sorter Wilhelmine 16 Wilhelm 14 Ore Sorter Louis 8 Johanne 6 Friedricke 4 Halbroth Georg 30 Tailor 643/1 D/M St. Andreasberg Je. Dorette Auguste (Kohler) 23 Wilhelmine 2 Heyer Heinrich Zacharias 32 Mason 731/2 M Zellerfeld Henry Child 2 Koehler J. Heinrich Wilhelm 58 Miner 931/3 St. Andreasberg Henrietta Wilhelmine- (Klapproth) 50 Auguste Caroline 24 Heinrich August- Wilhelm Hermann 22 Ore Sorter August Friedrich- Wilhelm 16 Georgine Aberdine- Elorhine Pauline 13 Je Julianne Caroline Bertha 11 Caroline Hermina- Aldolpina 7 Moser Christian 38 Belt Maker - - Elbingerode Wife Daughter Preuss Christian 40 Woodsman - - Lerbach ? Widow Carl 13 Albert 11 Schlick August Ludwig Friedrich 25 Oberschlemmer - B St. Andreasberg Je Louis Caroline (Herberger) 24 Daughter 2 Scherger Johann Rudolf Heinrich 36 Miner 1436/3 Hanover Christianne Friedricke (Conradi) 35 amelia 11 charles 9 Minnie 4 Augusta Louisa Meline Inf ? Born at sea Schlosser Carl Christian 24 Labourer - B/D St. Andreasberg Wilhelmine (Dietrich) 26 Schneider Friedrich Ludwig 48 Miner - - St.Andreasberg (Stormer) Miss 18 Son 15 Son 4 Vollprecht Johan Christian Hermann 22 Baker 1651/2 Clausthall Matilda (Flegel) 27 Wurfel Friedrich - Carpenter 1750/1 Eblinrode Friedricke (Benjamin) - Heinrich Gottfried Wilhelm 26 Wilhelmine Caroline- Auguste Friedricke 23 Louise Wilhelmine- Friedricke Johanne 20 Je. Wilhelmine- Henrietta Friedricke 19 Robert 13 Friedrich Wilhelm 15 Gustav 8 Single Male Gehrig Friedrich 25 Woodsman - Lerbach Kaiser Carl Heinrich 25 Woodsman 873/2 Buntenbrock Kaiser Heinrich August 21 Woodsman 873/2 Buntenbrock Knaute Friedrich 24 Woodsman - Lerbach Meyer Ernst Ludwig Wilhelm 22 Smith - St. Andreasberg Rosenthal Heinrich 23 Roadworker - Buntenbrock Schnellbeck Georg Friedrich Wilhelm 17 Ore Sorter - Clausthal Schroder Christian Friedrich Julius 20 Ore Sorter - Clausthal Schroeder Wagener August 27 Roadworker - Lerbach Wagener George Heinrich Carl 20 Woodsman - Buntebock Single Female Germelmann Auguste Zellerfeld Riesen Lotte Altenau Sauerbrey Wilhelmine (Sauerbrei) 32 Child -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.14/578 - Release Date: 12/7/2006 1:27 AM

    12/07/2006 12:02:26
    1. [G-P-L] Married, Yes or No
    2. marco1
    3. Dear Listers: I have found three sets of relatives that emigrated Hesse-Darmstadt via LeHavre, France. They arrived New Orleans, LA. in 1851, 1856, 1857. They all married Cincinnati, OH, in Reformed or Evangl. Luth Churches, each, about a year or so after they arrived. They emigrated as couples, but the ship's manifest lists the women by their maiden names. Is it possible three of my female relatives were not married, and traveled across the ocean with someone not their husband? I'm aware a marriage 'levy' was applied in Hessen and proof had to be made that a man could support a wife, but was it practice to have the maiden name on the manifest so a female could be located easier via document? Makes some sense, not much. Regards Elyse

    12/07/2006 07:59:51