Hi Susan, This is corret. You should interpret it as " currently living here". He may or may not have been born "here". Baerbel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Clark Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [G-P-L] hujatem and pludicam Baerbel, I gather that in this case "from here" only means that he was currently living in the town, not that he had been born there. Is that correct? Susan Baerbel Johnson wrote: > The word "hujatem" means "from here", or "here", and the other one should be "pudicam", which means "wise". A common phrase used for a maiden is "pudicam virginam" or "pudica virgine" which literally means "wise virgin". The groom is often referred to a "adolescents" - young man. > Have a great weekend! > > Baerbel For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

Dear Charlotte, The surnames Saar, Sarr, Zaar or Zaar do not show up in that particular book, but it only covers 1840-1850. Your ancestor probably came at another time. What else do you know about this person? Baerbel -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charlotte Chase Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [G-P-L] ZARR from , Hesse - Kassel Dear Baerbel, Could you find a listing for Parker Zarr (Saar, Sarr).  I was told he came from Hesse - Kassel. Thank you Charlotte Chase --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Baerbel Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Baerbel Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Henry Schmidt from Bargfeld, Hesse - Kassel To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Henry Schmidt from Bargfeld, Hesse - Kassel The Family History Library has a book by Inge Auerbach Listing documented emigrants from Hessen-Kassel 1840-1850. I checked that for the three surnames mentioned and did find Scheidler from Barchfeld emigrating in 1848. So I suspect tha the group of Schmidt, Scheitler, and Volkert also came from Barchfeld. A 'g" can be pronounced with a "ch" sound. Unfortunately we don't have the church records for Barchfeld an der Werra, Kreis Schmalkalden, except for 1808-1812, but they are available at the Landeskirchliches Archiv in Kassel. In the past they did answer mail and e-mail queries for a fee. I am not sure if their staffing still allows them to do that. You can contact them at [email protected] You can write in English. It's been interesting to follow the discussion on places and jurisdictions. This is a very complicated subject in Germany. Good luck! Baerbel NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan, An online Latin-English dictionary says: hujas, hujates = from here, from this village; "here" or "in this place" in reference to the town/village/place that the records are being kept in; in generally means that the person was B or C in that parish/village, is "belonging" to that village [but could mean also that the person was living in the village at the date when the ge occurred]. In common Latin dictionaries the term is not to be found. ________________________________ From: Susan Clark <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, January 16, 2010 1:37:30 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] hujatem and pludicam Baerbel, I gather that in this case "from here" only means that he was currently living in the town, not that he had been born there.  Is that correct? Susan Baerbel Johnson wrote: > The word "hujatem" means "from here", or "here", and the other one should be "pudicam", which means "wise". A common phrase used for a maiden is "pudicam virginam" or "pudica virgine" which literally means "wise virgin". The groom is often referred to a "adolescents" - young man. > Have a great weekend! > > Baerbel For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been searching for the family of Luise C. Schmidt who at age 14 emmigrated to New Orleans about 1845 w/ her family. I can track her from there to NY,WI & IL, after she married Johann Heinrich Roell. Her family & place of origin other than Hannover, ,are a blank. What suggestions can you passon to me for further searching? Thankyou, Phil [email protected] ------- Original Message ------- >From : Baerbel Johnson[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 1/16/2010 1:52:34 PM To : [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] Henry Schmidt from Bargfeld, Hesse - Kassel The Family History Library has a book by Inge Auerbach Listing documented emigrants from Hessen-Kassel 1840-1850. I checked that for the three surnames mentioned and did find Scheidler from Barchfeld emigrating in 1848. So I suspect tha the group of Schmidt, Scheitler, and Volkert also came from Barchfeld. A 'g" can be pronounced with a "ch" sound. Unfortunately we don't have the church records for Barchfeld an der Werra, Kreis Schmalkalden, except for 1808-1812, but they are available at the Landeskirchliches Archiv in Kassel. In the past they did answer mail and e-mail queries for a fee. I am not sure if their staffing still allows them to do that. You can contact them at [email protected] You can write in English. It's been interesting to follow the discussion on places and jurisdictions. This is a very complicated subject in Germany. Good luck! Baerbel NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Henry Schmidt from Bargfeld, Hesse - Kassel The Family History Library has a book by Inge Auerbach Listing documented emigrants from Hessen-Kassel 1840-1850. I checked that for the three surnames mentioned and did find Scheidler from Barchfeld emigrating in 1848. So I suspect tha the group of Schmidt, Scheitler, and Volkert also came from Barchfeld. A 'g" can be pronounced with a "ch" sound. Unfortunately we don't have the church records for Barchfeld an der Werra, Kreis Schmalkalden, except for 1808-1812, but they are available at the Landeskirchliches Archiv in Kassel. In the past they did answer mail and e-mail queries for a fee. I am not sure if their staffing still allows them to do that. You can contact them at [email protected] You can write in English. It's been interesting to follow the discussion on places and jurisdictions. This is a very complicated subject in Germany. Good luck! Baerbel NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

Dear Baerbel, Could you find a listing for Parker Zarr (Saar, Sarr).  I was told he came from Hesse - Kassel. Thank you Charlotte Chase --- On Sat, 1/16/10, Baerbel Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Baerbel Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Henry Schmidt from Bargfeld, Hesse - Kassel To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010, 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Henry Schmidt from Bargfeld, Hesse - Kassel The Family History Library has a book by Inge Auerbach Listing documented emigrants from Hessen-Kassel 1840-1850. I checked that for the three surnames mentioned and did find Scheidler from Barchfeld emigrating in 1848. So I suspect tha the group of Schmidt, Scheitler, and Volkert also came from Barchfeld. A 'g" can be pronounced with a "ch" sound. Unfortunately we don't have the church records for Barchfeld an der Werra, Kreis Schmalkalden, except for 1808-1812, but they are available at the Landeskirchliches Archiv in Kassel. In the past they did answer mail and e-mail queries for a fee. I am not sure if their staffing still allows them to do that. You can contact them at [email protected] You can write in English. It's been interesting to follow the discussion on places and jurisdictions. This is a very complicated subject in Germany. Good luck! Baerbel NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The word "hujatem" means "from here", or "here", and the other one should be "pudicam", which means "wise". A common phrase used for a maiden is "pudicam virginam" or "pudica virgine" which literally means "wise virgin". The groom is often referred to a "adolescents" - young man. Have a great weekend! Baerbel NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

Thanks, Bobbi, that should have occurred to me! Susan Bobbi wrote: > "hujatem et pludicam" is Latin > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

"hujatem et pludicam" is Latin

The earliest document I have relating to Philipp Zachmann is his marriage to Mary Magdalena Link in 1806. Contrary to all documents I have seen documenting marriages, this one does not specify where Philipp comes from. It says only "the good Philipp Zachmann schoolteacher," followed by words that look like "hujatem et pludicam" (but are not in my German dictionary). In the right column of this document are these words -- "Zachmann, Philipp; geb. __ nicht hier; +19.5.1821" and "m. Magdalena Link; geb. nicht hier --> 9.6.1786 im Stettfeld; + 30.12.1855." So Philipp was not born in Rauenberg, and I have other evidence that he was the first Zachmann to settle there. In my experience, if someone is not from the town where an event is being recorded, their name is followed by "aus ____" or their birthplace is otherwise specified. My questions: (1) Why wouldn't a birthplace be specified? Was it more typical than I've experienced for the town a person was from not to be recorded? (2) Would someone be hired as a town's schoolteacher if this information was not forthcoming? (3) How were schoolteachers hired in Germany in 1806, what qualifications did they need, and would there be a contract between the town and the person that might be in the town records? I'd appreciate any help you can give me. I'm at a deadend with Philipp, not knowing where he came from. I have one potential family, but can't make a link. Susan

Hi Dice, Not true - I just checked and it is still there and free as before. Perhaps you checked the wrong URL. Go to www.castlegarden.org Ursula ____________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dice ludden" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:09:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [G-P-L] castlegarden.org Hi, I am in the group for German genealogy and I noticed the information on castle Garden. I checked the site and found that it has been taken over by Ancestory.com. It is no longer free. i thought that you might like to know. Dice Ludden > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:00:07 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] castlegarden.org > > > I'd like to jump in here about my ancester, Martin Brandt. He came from Germany in 1742. Is there a site where I might find his records that far back?? Any hope of finding the ship Manifest?? The ship was the Loyal Judity. > Thanks much, > Kay > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorri <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2010 9:54 am > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] castlegarden.org > > > Thanks for the site, but when I go to the site, there is nothing to click on > orri > > > > EIGER-Veach-Allen-Barnett-CARROLL > GEARIN-KANE-SMITH-MOYLAN > ONAHUE-BURNS-Fowler-Fahey > HLE -MANTZ -PSCHYBYLSKI -GRIGOLEIT > USCHMANN -MONTING-ODONNELL > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "juliasgenes" <[email protected]> > o: <[email protected]> > ent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 00:14 > ubject: Re: [G-P-L] chged to: LANGOHR > > If your Euorpean immigrants came to NYC prior to Ellis Island's opening, > they probably came through Castle Garden. From their homepage: > "CastleGarden.org is an educational project of The Battery Conservancy. > This free site offers access to an extraordinary database of information > on 12 million immigrants from 1820 through 1892, the year Ellis Island > opened. Over 100 million Americans can trace their ancestors to this early > immigration period." > http://www.castlegarden.org/ > > .^_^. > --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Lorri <[email protected]> wrote: > > what is the castle garden site? > > lorri > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > or all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > Please visit and participate in our new forum > ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much. I will try that. I am having an awful time trying to find where the records for my gg grandfather are. ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 6:29:17 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Searching for Germans in Brandenburg now Poland - Ursula Send to: Bra[email protected] In the subject box type (in English) "subscribe" No message necessary In a message dated 1/14/2010 8:45:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I put a > message on the list about this some time ago. Ursula, you suggested > subscribing to ><[email protected]>. I have tried > several times, but cannot even get them to respond to the "subscribe" > request. Do I need to put "subscribe" in German? If so, what is > the word? > >Shirley > > > > > > >For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > >Please visit and participate in our new > forum > >http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >------------------------------- >To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message >

You must have been shuttled to the wrong website or accidentally clicked on an ancestry ad link. I just re-checked it. Please go to http://www.castlegarden.org/ and try again. Ancestry may have the manifest images at their site, but Castle Garden is still giving out free data, though somewhat flawed. And with millions of transcriptions, I'd expect a bushel of errors. Yours, Julia --- On Fri, 1/15/10, dice ludden <[email protected]> wrote: ...castle Garden.  I checked the site and found  that it has been taken over by Ancestory.com... Dice 

Hi, I am in the group for German genealogy and I noticed the information on castle Garden. I checked the site and found that it has been taken over by Ancestory.com. It is no longer free. i thought that you might like to know. Dice Ludden > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 23:00:07 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] castlegarden.org > > > I'd like to jump in here about my ancester, Martin Brandt. He came from Germany in 1742. Is there a site where I might find his records that far back?? Any hope of finding the ship Manifest?? The ship was the Loyal Judity. > Thanks much, > Kay > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorri <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2010 9:54 am > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] castlegarden.org > > > Thanks for the site, but when I go to the site, there is nothing to click on > orri > > > > EIGER-Veach-Allen-Barnett-CARROLL > GEARIN-KANE-SMITH-MOYLAN > ONAHUE-BURNS-Fowler-Fahey > HLE -MANTZ -PSCHYBYLSKI -GRIGOLEIT > USCHMANN -MONTING-ODONNELL > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: "juliasgenes" <[email protected]> > o: <[email protected]> > ent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 00:14 > ubject: Re: [G-P-L] chged to: LANGOHR > > If your Euorpean immigrants came to NYC prior to Ellis Island's opening, > they probably came through Castle Garden. From their homepage: > "CastleGarden.org is an educational project of The Battery Conservancy. > This free site offers access to an extraordinary database of information > on 12 million immigrants from 1820 through 1892, the year Ellis Island > opened. Over 100 million Americans can trace their ancestors to this early > immigration period." > http://www.castlegarden.org/ > > .^_^. > --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Lorri <[email protected]> wrote: > > what is the castle garden site? > > lorri > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > or all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > Please visit and participate in our new forum > ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/

Yes, except they weren't just kingdoms. They were also Free Hanseatic Cities, Duchies, Grand Duchies & Principalities. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO" To: "germany-passenger-lists" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Modern German states Yes, it does. I have a really good book about Germanic history. But my head couldn't quite get around why they were called what they were. so Tribes were probably first, and then it evolved to Kingdoms and now the country of Germany has what we would call States which used to be Kingdoms. Does that sound right?

Dave, I know you are trying to help but you are coming in on the tail end of this thread and are confusing the issue. The passenger list states that the emigrant came from "Bargfeld, Hesse-Kassel". The problem with that is that there is no town by the name of 'Bargfeld' or 'Bergfeld' or 'Burgfeld' or 'Barchfeld' in the state of Hesse-Kassel!! End of story. There is a 'Bargfeld' and a 'Barchfeld' in Thuringia but not in Hesse-Kassel! Therefore, something is not right on the passenger list, either he came from Bargfeld in Thuringia or from the one in Lower Saxony or he came from another town in Hesse-Kassel. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Marshall" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:03:50 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Place in Germany Hi, Lorri. When you have something like that to look up, try using Google to search "Bergfeld, Germany Wiki", or whatever you are looking for. In this case, you will get a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergfeld This page does not have any information other than a map and the name of the State in Germany where it is located. Some Wiki pages have a lot of good information, and some do not. You can most of the time count on Wikipedia to at least have what the Bergfeld page has. Dave

Yes, it does. I have a really good book about Germanic history. But my head couldn't quite get around why they were called what they were. so Tribes were probably first, and then it evolved to Kingdoms and now the country of Germany has what we would call States which used to be Kingdoms. Does that sound right? > Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:04:19 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Modern German states > > Hi Marge, > > Tribes are groups of people without "state" boundaries. Long ago Europe was > over run by tribes among them were the Alemani, Angles, Burgundians, > Franks, Goths, Jutes, Lombards, Suevi, Visigoths, Vandals, and others. > They settled in different areas of Europe. Of the tribes that settled in > the area that is Germany, although there were differences in language and > customs, they were enough alike to be considered "Germanic." > > I hope this helps. > > Bobbi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO" > To: "germany-passenger-lists" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Modern German states > > > > > > well, I think Bobbi answered it. Yes, I knew about the earlier rulers. I > > have another question. If Germany did not exist before 1871, why are they > > called Germanic peoples > > > > thanks again > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found this section of the Steve Morse site - it goes into more detail about Castle Garden and other NYC processing centers and where info can be found - scan down about 1/3 of the way through the long document. "2. Castle Garden (and earlier) Search Forms and Ship Arrivals" http://stevemorse.org/onestep/onestep.htm

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A description of the history of the term Germanic is here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Germanic but it gets kinda deep. HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO wrote: > well, I think Bobbi answered it. Yes, I knew about the earlier rulers. I have another question. If Germany did not exist before 1871, why are they called Germanic peoples > > thanks again > > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:48:05 -0500 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [G-P-L] Modern German states >> >> I am not sure if this is your question. When did Germany unite. >> >> In 1871 Germany united into 16 states as we recognize them today. >> In earlier days there were as many as 38 states. These were ruled by >> many factions. >> >> Bill Fehlinger _ NJ >> >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com >> >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- Dave Researching Surnames Marshall, Broemsen, Blaetner, Pugh, Schlicher, Kennedy, Harmison Located in Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania and ??? Dave Marshall N8OAY [email protected] N8OAY's Railfan Help Desk http://www.railfanswelcome.com