Hello! my name is Michael from Kirtorf/Hessen in Germany I'm searching for relatives, which have ancestors with the surname "HERRMANN" , also written "HERMANN" John Theodore Herrmann (he was the head of the family, that immigrated to the USA) born as Johann Theodor Herrmann, son of Johann Jost Herrmann in Bernsburg near my hometown Kirtorf in the former 'Grossherzogtum Hessen-Darmstadt' he was married with Katharina Dorothea Krieger, she had 1 brother Johannes, 1 sister Maria Katharina, who was married with Konrad Jakoby, my great-great-grandfather, 1 sister Elisabeth and 1 brother Heinrich Krieger, married with Karoline Zulauf, this couple also went into the USA John T. Herrmann and his wife emigrated in 1872 from Bernsburg to Lansing/Michigan with then already born 5 children if someone has informations about these Herrmanns of Lansing and how they came to there, I would be pleased to hear from! greetings Michael

I have not been able to find any immigration records for Josephine Weidemann born 11 Dec 1902 Wuttemburg, Germany, her sister Theresa Weidemann Kuchle b. abt. 1894, another sister, Lena Weidemann Ludwig b. abt. 1893 and a brother Louis Weidemann b. abt. 1900 all born in Wuttemburg, Germany. The little information I have is that Josephine Weidemann immigrated to the US around the end of 1924. Her sisters supposedly immigrated with their husbands before that time, but in the early 1900's. Louis Weidemann immigrated in the same time period. Theresa's husband was Joseph Kuchle. Lena's husband was a Mr. Ludwig. Louis was not married when he immigrated. Can anyone help , please? I have checked Ellis Island records and found nothing. Thank you, Carole [email protected]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Timmy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 8:54 AM Subject: [G-P-L] HERRMANN family immigration 1872 Michael In the Castle Garden records is the following; JOHANN HERRMANN First Name Relation 1 Last Name Rel1 Name Occupation Rel1 addr Age Ticket Sex Paid By Literacy US Before Ship US When Arrived US Where Origin to_rel Port Karl Roussin ======================================= > Hello! > > my name is Michael from Kirtorf/Hessen in Germany > > I'm searching for relatives, which have ancestors with the surname > "HERRMANN" , also written "HERMANN" > > John Theodore Herrmann > (he was the head of the family, that immigrated to the USA) > > born as Johann Theodor Herrmann, son of Johann Jost Herrmann in > Bernsburg near my hometown Kirtorf in the former 'Grossherzogtum > Hessen-Darmstadt' > he was married with Katharina Dorothea Krieger, she had 1 brother > Johannes, 1 sister Maria Katharina, who was married with Konrad Jakoby, > my great-great-grandfather, 1 sister Elisabeth and 1 brother Heinrich > Krieger, married with Karoline Zulauf, this couple also went into the USA > > John T. Herrmann and his wife emigrated in 1872 from Bernsburg to > Lansing/Michigan with then already born 5 children > > if someone has informations about these Herrmanns of Lansing and how > they came to there, > I would be pleased to hear from! > > greetings > Michael > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found the page, you suggested from Hannover, and typed in one of my family names, herchenroder, and up pops gefunden im Titel gefunden im freien text gefunden in namen gefunden im Vorwort gefunden im index gefunden im multemedia gefunden im Bezugsraum gefunden im Gliederung Does this mean, found in a titel, found in text, found in a name, found ina index, found in multimedia, and the last two i am clueless. I couldn't get those name to click to another place. help marge > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 5:35:33 -0800 > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL > > > Thankyou, > By 1849 she married & moved to Binghamton NY. > Her spouse was a minister of the New York Synod. ????? > Her daughter , Charlotte, was born in 1852 there. > I will continue the search. > Thanks again, > Phil > > > > > ------- Original Message ------- > >From : Baerbel Johnson[mailto:[email protected]] > Sent : 2/9/2010 3:17:10 PM > To : [email protected] > Cc : > Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL > > No, Hannover is relatively close, but a different area. > > About 60% of the New Orleans passenger lists covering 1820-1850 were destroyed in a fire. The remainder is available on microfilm and on Ancestry.com., with various indexes. > > If Luise came with her birth family, try to locate her in the 1850 US census with family members. Then research the entire family, especially the males, in their new home. Look at all available records. With a common surname doing "whole family research" is very important. > > Some indexes for 19th Century emigrants from the state of Hannover are available online at > http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ > click on the tab "Auswanderersuche" [search for emigrants] on the top right. > > Good luck! > > Baerbel > > > <Was that area considered part of Hannover in that era? > I am searching grgrgrandmother Luise C. Schmidt born Aug 8,1831 (Hannover).Emmifrated to New Orleans age 14, 1849 with family.No luck so far. > Thankyou, > Phil> > > > > ------- Original Message ------- > >From : Baerbel Johnson[ mailto:[email protected] ] > Sent : 2/9/2010 1:40:26 PM > To : [email protected] > Cc : > Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL > > For Hessian soldiers one good list is the HETRINA- The acronym stands for the German version of "Hessian Troops in the American War of Independence", a six-volume set. We have these books here in our library, so I checked for Zarr, Sarr, Saar Sahr etc , and found three entries 1. A Johannes Saar from Schenklengsfeld in vol. 1 and 2 > A Henrich Schaar from Kleinalmerode in vol. 4, and a Johannes Sarre from Ehringen, Kreis Wolfshagen. > The first two places are on the eastern , "Thueringen" side of Hessen-Nassau, but Ehringen is on the western side and could have been construed as Hessen-Kassel . So that's a possibility to keep in mind for future research. The church records for Ehringen have not been microfilmed by the Family History Library. They may be available in the Lutheran archive in Kassel. > > You didn't say how much research you have done on this ancestor in U.S. records. In my opinion, this is where you should leave no stone unturned. Look at all the records you can find for Bedford, and the history etc. The Family History Library does have some records, but my guess is that you can find more in local and county archives and historical societies. I would especially look for church records and anything where he himself signed his name , like his will, or a land record. > I also came across a website that has a lot of links to Revoluonary War information, including Hessian soldiers: > http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/websites/websites.htm > > Good luck! > > Baerbel > > > <I am trying to get information on my ggg grandfather, Parker Zarr. I was told he was born in Hesse Kessel in 1756 and came to the USA with the Hession Army. He settled in Bedford, Westchester, NY. Is there a Hesse Kessel group that might be able to help with getting this information? > Charlotte Chase > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Charlotte, At that point in time naturalizations were done on a local level. It was not until 1906 that naturalizations became "federal business." Yes, NARA has some naturalizations before 1906 but that is just good fortune. Look at the courts around the area that your ancestor settled. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Chase" I have checked the census records and found a few things. I found his intent for naturalization, but not the actual naturalization papers. I was told they exist but NARA, and the office in New York that NARA suggested I contact didn't have them.

Thank you - any suggestions are worth a try - I know they came over - just finding them is such a problem! Joanne in AZ (I seek dead people). Researching surnames: Case, Dancik, Dashiell, Davenport, Davis, Harkness, Harris, Hoppe, Kocher, Lawson, Lewis, Meyer, Prynn, Schwartz, Thomas, VonderLinden, Waller, Weaver, Woithe In a message dated 2/10/2010 1:07:35 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Immigration Question (Judy Wiersema) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:11:51 -0800 (PST) From: Judy Wiersema <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I would try Van DerLinden? I am dutch and Holland is right next door to Germany ? The person writing might have put an a instead of an o ? good luck --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Bobbi <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bobbi <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:19 AM You might also want to try: Von Derlinden. Also search replacing the "n"s with "u"s. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:38 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > Good Afternoon group - I wonder if anyone could give me? some insight as > to > possibilities for a surname - I am searching for my? Great Grandfather's > arrival.? I have (I think) covered nearly all? ways the name could be > spelled > or mis-spelled but perhaps someone with a? better grasp of German names > might have some ideas. > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - this group? has been very > helpful to me in the past. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots..com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 52 ******************************************************

Hello Joanne, I'm German. If you like, I can try to translate the certificate for you. Send a copy to my private adress: [email protected] Kind regards Georg > > Emil Von Der Linden (also spelled Vonder Linden and Vonderlinden) was born > 1860 in Bajern, Germany. He arrived in New York 1882. Also arriving in > 1882 was his future wife, Annj Marj Woithe who was born 1862 in Preusor, > Germany (the locations are taken off a handwritten birth certificate for my > grandfather, and this is what the spelling appears to be). I can post the > certificate or send it to someone who perhaps can determine what it really > says. They married in 1885 in New York and all their children were born in > New York. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - this group has been very > helpful to me in the past. > > Joanne in AZ (I seek dead people). Researching surnames: Case, Dancik, > Dashiell, Davenport, Davis, Harkness, Harris, Hoppe, Kocher, Lawson, Lewis, > Meyer, Prynn, Schwartz, Thomas, VonderLinden, Waller, Weaver, Woithe > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

another suggestion: Von der Linde -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:06 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > > My great great grandad was John Vandelinder, a Civil War P.O.W. from NY. > Phil > > > ------- Original Message ------- > From : David Stroebel[mailto:[email protected]] > Sent : 2/10/2010 8:54:56 AM > To : [email protected] > Cc : > Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > > I has a friend in college with the last name Van derlinda. Just a > suggestion... > > --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Judy Wiersema <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Judy Wiersema <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 9:11 PM >> I would try Van DerLinden I am >> dutch and Holland is right next door to Germany >> >> The person writing might have put an a instead of an o >> >> good luck >> >> --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Bobbi <[email protected]t> >> wrote: >> >> >> From: Bobbi <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:19 AM >> >> >> You might also want to try: Von Derlinden. >> Also search replacing the "n"s with "u"s. >> >> Bobbi >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:38 PM >> Subject: [G-P-L] Immigration Question >> >> > Good Afternoon group - I wonder if anyone could give >> me some insight as >> > to >> > possibilities for a surname - I am searching for my >> Great Grandfather's >> > arrival. I have (I think) covered nearly all ways >> the name could be >> > spelled >> > or mis-spelled but perhaps someone with a better >> grasp of German names >> > might have some ideas. >> >> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - this >> group has been very >> > helpful to me in the past. >> >> >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >> http://www.germanyroots..com >> >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS- > [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >> http://www.germanyroots.com >> >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS- > [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body > of the message > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My great great grandad was John Vandelinder, a Civil War P.O.W. from NY. Phil ------- Original Message ------- >From : David Stroebel[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 2/10/2010 8:54:56 AM To : [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question I has a friend in college with the last name Van derlinda. Just a suggestion... --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Judy Wiersema <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Judy Wiersema <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 9:11 PM > I would try Van DerLinden  I am > dutch and Holland is right next door to Germany >   > The person writing might have put an a instead of an o >   > good luck > > --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Bobbi <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: Bobbi <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:19 AM > > > You might also want to try: Von Derlinden. > Also search replacing the "n"s with "u"s. > > Bobbi > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:38 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > > > Good Afternoon group - I wonder if anyone could give > me  some insight as > > to > > possibilities for a surname - I am searching for my  > Great Grandfather's > > arrival.  I have (I think) covered nearly all  ways > the name could be > > spelled > > or mis-spelled but perhaps someone with a  better > grasp of German names > > might have some ideas. > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - this > group  has been very > > helpful to me in the past. > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots..com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS- [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS- [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I has a friend in college with the last name Van derlinda. Just a suggestion... --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Judy Wiersema <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Judy Wiersema <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 9:11 PM > I would try Van DerLinden  I am > dutch and Holland is right next door to Germany >   > The person writing might have put an a instead of an o >   > good luck > > --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Bobbi <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: Bobbi <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:19 AM > > > You might also want to try: Von Derlinden. > Also search replacing the "n"s with "u"s. > > Bobbi > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:38 PM > Subject: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > > > Good Afternoon group - I wonder if anyone could give > me  some insight as > > to > > possibilities for a surname - I am searching for my  > Great Grandfather's > > arrival.  I have (I think) covered nearly all  ways > the name could be > > spelled > > or mis-spelled but perhaps someone with a  better > grasp of German names > > might have some ideas. > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - this > group  has been very > > helpful to me in the past. > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots..com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

  I have checked the census records and found a few things.  I found his intent for naturalization, but not the actual naturalization papers.  I was told they exist but NARA, and the office in New York that NARA suggested I contact didn't have them.   I will check the Hessian soldier site Baerbel mentioned. --- On Tue, 2/9/10, Baerbel Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Baerbel Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 1:40 PM For Hessian soldiers one good list is the HETRINA- The acronym stands for the German version of "Hessian Troops in the American War of Independence", a six-volume set. We have these books here in our library, so I checked for Zarr, Sarr, Saar Sahr etc , and found three entries  1. A Johannes Saar from Schenklengsfeld in vol. 1 and 2 A Henrich Schaar from Kleinalmerode in vol. 4,  and a Johannes Sarre from Ehringen, Kreis Wolfshagen. The first two places are on the eastern , "Thueringen" side of Hessen-Nassau, but Ehringen is on the western side and could have been construed as Hessen-Kassel . So that's a possibility to keep in mind for future research. The church records for Ehringen have not been microfilmed by the Family History Library. They may be available in the Lutheran archive in Kassel. You didn't say how much research you have done on this ancestor in U.S. records. In my opinion, this is where you should leave no stone unturned. Look at all the records you can find for Bedford, and the history etc. The Family History Library does have some records, but my guess is that you can find more in local and county archives and historical societies. I would especially look for church records and anything where he himself signed his name , like his will, or a land record. I also came across a website that has a lot of links to Revoluonary War information, including Hessian soldiers: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/websites/websites.htm Good luck! Baerbel <I am trying to get information on my ggg grandfather, Parker Zarr.  I was told he was born in Hesse Kessel in 1756 and came to the USA with the Hession Army.  He settled in Bedford, Westchester, NY.  Is there a Hesse Kessel group that might be able to help with getting this information? Charlotte Chase >       For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might also want to try: Von Derlinden. Also search replacing the "n"s with "u"s. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:38 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > Good Afternoon group - I wonder if anyone could give me some insight as > to > possibilities for a surname - I am searching for my Great Grandfather's > arrival. I have (I think) covered nearly all ways the name could be > spelled > or mis-spelled but perhaps someone with a better grasp of German names > might have some ideas. > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - this group has been very > helpful to me in the past.

I would try Van DerLinden  I am dutch and Holland is right next door to Germany   The person writing might have put an a instead of an o   good luck --- On Wed, 2/10/10, Bobbi <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bobbi <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Immigration Question To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 2:19 AM You might also want to try: Von Derlinden. Also search replacing the "n"s with "u"s. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:38 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Immigration Question > Good Afternoon group - I wonder if anyone could give me  some insight as > to > possibilities for a surname - I am searching for my  Great Grandfather's > arrival.  I have (I think) covered nearly all  ways the name could be > spelled > or mis-spelled but perhaps someone with a  better grasp of German names > might have some ideas. > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - this group  has been very > helpful to me in the past. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots..com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Afternoon group - I wonder if anyone could give me some insight as to possibilities for a surname - I am searching for my Great Grandfather's arrival. I have (I think) covered nearly all ways the name could be spelled or mis-spelled but perhaps someone with a better grasp of German names might have some ideas. Emil Von Der Linden (also spelled Vonder Linden and Vonderlinden) was born 1860 in Bajern, Germany. He arrived in New York 1882. Also arriving in 1882 was his future wife, Annj Marj Woithe who was born 1862 in Preusor, Germany (the locations are taken off a handwritten birth certificate for my grandfather, and this is what the spelling appears to be). I can post the certificate or send it to someone who perhaps can determine what it really says. They married in 1885 in New York and all their children were born in New York. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - this group has been very helpful to me in the past. Joanne in AZ (I seek dead people). Researching surnames: Case, Dancik, Dashiell, Davenport, Davis, Harkness, Harris, Hoppe, Kocher, Lawson, Lewis, Meyer, Prynn, Schwartz, Thomas, VonderLinden, Waller, Weaver, Woithe

Thankyou, By 1849 she married & moved to Binghamton NY. Her spouse was a minister of the New York Synod. ????? Her daughter , Charlotte, was born in 1852 there. I will continue the search. Thanks again, Phil ------- Original Message ------- >From : Baerbel Johnson[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 2/9/2010 3:17:10 PM To : [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL No, Hannover is relatively close, but a different area. About 60% of the New Orleans passenger lists covering 1820-1850 were destroyed in a fire. The remainder is available on microfilm and on Ancestry.com., with various indexes. If Luise came with her birth family, try to locate her in the 1850 US census with family members. Then research the entire family, especially the males, in their new home. Look at all available records. With a common surname doing "whole family research" is very important. Some indexes for 19th Century emigrants from the state of Hannover are available online at http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ click on the tab "Auswanderersuche" [search for emigrants] on the top right. Good luck! Baerbel <Was that area considered part of Hannover in that era? I am searching grgrgrandmother Luise C. Schmidt born Aug 8,1831 (Hannover).Emmifrated to New Orleans age 14, 1849 with family.No luck so far. Thankyou, Phil> ------- Original Message ------- >From : Baerbel Johnson[ mailto:[email protected] ] Sent : 2/9/2010 1:40:26 PM To : [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL For Hessian soldiers one good list is the HETRINA- The acronym stands for the German version of "Hessian Troops in the American War of Independence", a six-volume set. We have these books here in our library, so I checked for Zarr, Sarr, Saar Sahr etc , and found three entries 1. A Johannes Saar from Schenklengsfeld in vol. 1 and 2 A Henrich Schaar from Kleinalmerode in vol. 4, and a Johannes Sarre from Ehringen, Kreis Wolfshagen. The first two places are on the eastern , "Thueringen" side of Hessen-Nassau, but Ehringen is on the western side and could have been construed as Hessen-Kassel . So that's a possibility to keep in mind for future research. The church records for Ehringen have not been microfilmed by the Family History Library. They may be available in the Lutheran archive in Kassel. You didn't say how much research you have done on this ancestor in U.S. records. In my opinion, this is where you should leave no stone unturned. Look at all the records you can find for Bedford, and the history etc. The Family History Library does have some records, but my guess is that you can find more in local and county archives and historical societies. I would especially look for church records and anything where he himself signed his name , like his will, or a land record. I also came across a website that has a lot of links to Revoluonary War information, including Hessian soldiers: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/websites/websites.htm Good luck! Baerbel <I am trying to get information on my ggg grandfather, Parker Zarr. I was told he was born in Hesse Kessel in 1756 and came to the USA with the Hession Army. He settled in Bedford, Westchester, NY. Is there a Hesse Kessel group that might be able to help with getting this information? 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No, Hannover is relatively close, but a different area. About 60% of the New Orleans passenger lists covering 1820-1850 were destroyed in a fire. The remainder is available on microfilm and on Ancestry.com., with various indexes. If Luise came with her birth family, try to locate her in the 1850 US census with family members. Then research the entire family, especially the males, in their new home. Look at all available records. With a common surname doing "whole family research" is very important. Some indexes for 19th Century emigrants from the state of Hannover are available online at http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ click on the tab "Auswanderersuche" [search for emigrants] on the top right. Good luck! Baerbel <Was that area considered part of Hannover in that era? I am searching grgrgrandmother Luise C. Schmidt born Aug 8,1831 (Hannover).Emmifrated to New Orleans age 14, 1849 with family.No luck so far. Thankyou, Phil> ------- Original Message ------- >From : Baerbel Johnson[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 2/9/2010 1:40:26 PM To : [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL For Hessian soldiers one good list is the HETRINA- The acronym stands for the German version of "Hessian Troops in the American War of Independence", a six-volume set. We have these books here in our library, so I checked for Zarr, Sarr, Saar Sahr etc , and found three entries 1. A Johannes Saar from Schenklengsfeld in vol. 1 and 2 A Henrich Schaar from Kleinalmerode in vol. 4, and a Johannes Sarre from Ehringen, Kreis Wolfshagen. The first two places are on the eastern , "Thueringen" side of Hessen-Nassau, but Ehringen is on the western side and could have been construed as Hessen-Kassel . So that's a possibility to keep in mind for future research. The church records for Ehringen have not been microfilmed by the Family History Library. They may be available in the Lutheran archive in Kassel. You didn't say how much research you have done on this ancestor in U.S. records. In my opinion, this is where you should leave no stone unturned. Look at all the records you can find for Bedford, and the history etc. The Family History Library does have some records, but my guess is that you can find more in local and county archives and historical societies. I would especially look for church records and anything where he himself signed his name , like his will, or a land record. I also came across a website that has a lot of links to Revoluonary War information, including Hessian soldiers: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/websites/websites.htm Good luck! Baerbel <I am trying to get information on my ggg grandfather, Parker Zarr. I was told he was born in Hesse Kessel in 1756 and came to the USA with the Hession Army. He settled in Bedford, Westchester, NY. Is there a Hesse Kessel group that might be able to help with getting this information? Charlotte Chase > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For Hessian soldiers one good list is the HETRINA- The acronym stands for the German version of "Hessian Troops in the American War of Independence", a six-volume set. We have these books here in our library, so I checked for Zarr, Sarr, Saar Sahr etc , and found three entries 1. A Johannes Saar from Schenklengsfeld in vol. 1 and 2 A Henrich Schaar from Kleinalmerode in vol. 4, and a Johannes Sarre from Ehringen, Kreis Wolfshagen. The first two places are on the eastern , "Thueringen" side of Hessen-Nassau, but Ehringen is on the western side and could have been construed as Hessen-Kassel . So that's a possibility to keep in mind for future research. The church records for Ehringen have not been microfilmed by the Family History Library. They may be available in the Lutheran archive in Kassel. You didn't say how much research you have done on this ancestor in U.S. records. In my opinion, this is where you should leave no stone unturned. Look at all the records you can find for Bedford, and the history etc. The Family History Library does have some records, but my guess is that you can find more in local and county archives and historical societies. I would especially look for church records and anything where he himself signed his name , like his will, or a land record. I also came across a website that has a lot of links to Revoluonary War information, including Hessian soldiers: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/websites/websites.htm Good luck! Baerbel <I am trying to get information on my ggg grandfather, Parker Zarr.  I was told he was born in Hesse Kessel in 1756 and came to the USA with the Hession Army.  He settled in Bedford, Westchester, NY.  Is there a Hesse Kessel group that might be able to help with getting this information? Charlotte Chase > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

Was that area considered part of Hannover in that era? I am searching grgrgrandmother Luise C. Schmidt born Aug 8,1831 (Hannover).Emmifrated to New Orleans age 14, 1849 with family.No luck so far. Thankyou, Phil ------- Original Message ------- >From : Baerbel Johnson[mailto:[email protected]] Sent : 2/9/2010 1:40:26 PM To : [email protected] Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL For Hessian soldiers one good list is the HETRINA- The acronym stands for the German version of "Hessian Troops in the American War of Independence", a six-volume set. We have these books here in our library, so I checked for Zarr, Sarr, Saar Sahr etc , and found three entries 1. A Johannes Saar from Schenklengsfeld in vol. 1 and 2 A Henrich Schaar from Kleinalmerode in vol. 4, and a Johannes Sarre from Ehringen, Kreis Wolfshagen. The first two places are on the eastern , "Thueringen" side of Hessen-Nassau, but Ehringen is on the western side and could have been construed as Hessen-Kassel . So that's a possibility to keep in mind for future research. The church records for Ehringen have not been microfilmed by the Family History Library. They may be available in the Lutheran archive in Kassel. You didn't say how much research you have done on this ancestor in U.S. records. In my opinion, this is where you should leave no stone unturned. Look at all the records you can find for Bedford, and the history etc. The Family History Library does have some records, but my guess is that you can find more in local and county archives and historical societies. I would especially look for church records and anything where he himself signed his name , like his will, or a land record. I also came across a website that has a lot of links to Revoluonary War information, including Hessian soldiers: http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/websites/websites.htm Good luck! Baerbel <I am trying to get information on my ggg grandfather, Parker Zarr. I was told he was born in Hesse Kessel in 1756 and came to the USA with the Hession Army. He settled in Bedford, Westchester, NY. Is there a Hesse Kessel group that might be able to help with getting this information? Charlotte Chase > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Charlotte, there are quite a few sites on the Internet dealing with Hessian soldiers in America all you need to do is enter "Hessians" or "Hessian Soldiers" into Google and you'll have hours if not days to comb through the information. The first name "Parker" is not a German name but perhaps British. BTW the place is called Hesse-Cassel or Hesse-Kassel. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Chase" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 8, 2010 2:36:13 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL I am trying to get information on my ggg grandfather, Parker Zarr.  I was told he was born in Hesse Kessel in 1756 and came to the USA with the Hession Army.  He settled in Bedford, Westchester, NY.  Is there a Hesse Kessel group that might be able to help with getting this information? Charlotte Chase For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might want to try the Hesse list at: [email protected] Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Chase" To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:36 PM Subject: [G-P-L] HESSE KESSEL I am trying to get information on my ggg grandfather, Parker Zarr. I was told he was born in Hesse Kessel in 1756 and came to the USA with the Hession Army. He settled in Bedford, Westchester, NY. Is there a Hesse Kessel group that might be able to help with getting this information? Charlotte Chase