Dear Listservers; My name is Ann Johnson, nee Schroath. Presently I live in North Carolina, USA, near the capitol of the state, Raleigh. I have had a long interest in finding my German roots through my great grandfather, Gottfried SCHROATH. From the census information and a citizenship abstract in which he is listed, I surmise that he was born around 1818 in Darmstadt, Hesse. The citizenship abstract tells me that he was 33 years old at the time of his emigration. He left Germany through the Port of Bremen on 7 June, 1851. (I know this through a copy of the Declaration of Intention.) He arrived at the Port of New York July 14, 1851. (Citizenship Abstract.) Each document states that he is from Hesse Darmstadt. There are no other passengers from Hesse Darmstadt leaving through Bremen on this abstract (but there is a man from Hesse Cassel, John Eberhard Schuck.). There are several alternate spellings to this name. I have found in various locations of census, the spellings of Schroth, Schrodt, Schroath, Shrode, and Shroth. Gottfried spelled the surname Schroath in the United States. He is listed in the Declaration of Naturalization Index in Meigs County, Ohio, November, 1856, as a native of Darmstadt, along with John Betz, and Henry Becker, also natives of Darmstadt. Many German immigrants came to this county in Ohio during this period of time. Gottfried married Susannah Ebersbach, a native of Oppau, Germany. They raised a family of nine children,of which my Grandfather was one. I have searched many places for ship information--paassenger lists, name of ship, etc. but to no avail. I do not have any other information about Gottfried Schroath. I do not know his church, place of origin, other family members, or how to find this information. Therefore I turn to the listserve. Any and all suggestions would be welcomed by me. I am fairly new to German research, so I know I need much assistance to find this information. I look forward to talking with the list and the knowledgable persons who use it to help me. To summarize: name: Gottfried Schroth, age 33 years, a native of Darmstadt date of departure: 7 June 1851, from Bremen arrival in US: 14 July 1851, Port of New York Declaration of Intention: 27 May, 1854, Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio Naturalization: 1 November, 1856, Meigs County, Ohio To find the place of origin, church and/or other family members. Ann S. Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolf Zscheile" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 9:09 AM Subject: WELCOME > Welcome,Ann, > > to our "Germany- Passenger- Lists" mailing list. > It would be a nice gesture if you would introduce yourself to our group > with a few details about yourself and the names and areas you are > searching for. > > mailto:[email protected] > > > It's main purpose is to supplement our www.germanyroots.com/ships > Passenger lists Database and to keep the lines of communication open > between our members and friends. > > Here we will talk about new additions to our database, exchange > information, and you are all encouraged to step in with suggestions, > possible improvements and questions you might have. > > Whenever you get a chance to get hold of a passenger list, even if it is > just a partial list, send it to us to give our database a chance to > grow. Of course, you have to make sure that you don't violate any > copyright laws and you have the permission of the owner to do so. > > In addition, you are ALL welcome to visit our homepage: > www.germanyroots.com, where the main goal is to bridge the language > barrier between the English- and > German- speaking ancestry researchers. > > I am looking forward to meet you. > > Have a nice day, > > Wolf [Zscheile] > > ******************************************** > Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS > http://www.germanyroots.com > ******************************************** > > >

Thank you very much for the information which I did not have. The people you give could link to Carl/Karl/Charles Kirmess as relatives and or perhaps parent - he was probably born 1880 and said he was born in Harsburg Prussia in details he gave to the 1911 UK census. He was a writer who used the name C H Kirmess - but I don't know what H stands for. I am looking for records which refer to him including passenger records. I feel that he must have a birth record some where possibly a marriage record and a death record at least - as well as records which show his movements between countries. If anyone has any suggestions as to where in Germany to start looking I would be grateful. Philippa Scarlett At 03:25 AM 7/03/2010, you wrote: >Philippa Scarlett > There are two listed in the Family Search page , one was in the 1777 era >, and one is as follows; > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > CARL FRIEDRICH KIRMESS Pedigree > Male > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > Event(s): > Birth: 11 NOV 1854 > > Christening: 21 JAN 1855 Sankt Marien, Berlin Stadt, >Brandenburg, Preussen > > Death: > Burial: > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > Parents: > Father: GOTTHOLD ALBERT KIRMESS Family > Mother: EMMA LOUISE SIEDEL > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > Messages: > Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in >the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the >birth or christening date. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > Source Information: > Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: >Type: > > C999692 1837 - 1842 0070051 Film 1124816 Film > > C999692 1842 - 1849 0070052 Film NONE > > C999692 1850 - 1859 0070053 Film NONE > > C999692 1859 - 1864 0070054 Film NONE > > Note; the batch number . > C999692 1864 - 1865 0070055 > > > > Karl Roussin > =======================================

I am a newbie to this list, searching for information on Bremen to New York passenger Gottfried SCHROTH, age 33 of Hesse, Darmstadt; arrival date 07/14/1851; declaration date 05/27/1854. This information is from Citizenship Record Abstracts 1837-1916, U. Cincinnati, Ohio. His Declaration of Intention states that he emigrated from Bremen 7 June, 1851 and arrived at New York 14 July, 1851. How can I further trace this man in Germany? I have tried varied sources in US with no luck. I wrote to Hesse Staatsarchiv in Darmstadt; the reply was that he was not registered in their emmigrant cards, and that the family name is very common there. They need the exact place of origin to pull out further means of searching. How can I find him there? Any ideas from the list using this meager information that I have? Can anyone help? Ann in NC

Kerry, this is most frustrating. Now that you have the date there is no place that has the PL. You may have no choice but to order the film that Karl listed in his post. I have the printed index of the Ships Passenger Lists, Port of Galveston, Texas, 1846-1871. I checked on your Heinrich right away but all I found was Wilhelmine Fuhrmister/Fuhrmeister, who arrived in Galveston on 11 Dec 1868 from Bremen on the bark FORTUNA. Next I visited Genealogy.com, who also shows passenger arrivals for Galveston under "Atlantic Ports, Gulf Coast and Great Lakes, Roll 3, Galveston 1846-1871. Here I expected to at least find Wilhelmine - no she's not listed!! Next I visited Ancestry again. They too have the "Atlantic Ports, Gulf Coast.....1846-1871. They do show Wilhelmine but no Heinrich. So the conclusion is that the records for Galveston available online and in print are incomplete! There is also a note that states that many of their records were lost in the big hurricane at the turn of the century. So, you might as well go ahead and order the film as this is your only choice. Ursula ___________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Fuhrmeister" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2010 3:38:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [G-P-L] Fuhrmeister I Have a date! I have a copy of Heinrich Fuhrmeister's Declaration of Intent to Naturalize. On this document he says he landed in Galveston, Texas on or about 4th of December 1854. No ship name though :( At least it is something. What I was told was wrong he didn't enter at Pittsburg. What sources would have these passenger lists? Here is what I have checked so far; Ancestry.com they have a group of passenger lists that should cover the year and port that I need but it skips 1853,54,55,and 56. This is also a film that is available through the FHL but since it is from the same NARA information that ancestry has I don't think the list I need would be on there. I am not sure if the Texas Seaport Museum has recovered from the last Hurricane which devastated Galveston. Is there any other source for the port of Galveston TX for December 1854? Any idea's would be great Thanks Kerry _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've recently joined the list - I live in Australia and am looking for the name Kirmess on passenger lists between Germany, England and also Australia in the first decade of the 20th century and possibly later. The name I am seeking is Carl/Karl/Charles Kirmess. This man was at one time engaged to my grandmother's cousin Lily Service of Randwick, New South Wales (a Sydney suburb). but we know little about him and his movements. I'd be grateful for any information and am happy to share passenger list details I come across in my research. Philippa Scarlett

Ursula, I couldn't agree more. This man has always been very challenging to locate. My husband gets a kick out of my tirades about how difficult his ancestors are. For a while it seemed that this particular Fuhrmeister just sprouted out of the dirt in Texas. Or he was one of the ones who sat on his door step with a shotgun just incase a census taker happened to show up. Come to think of it I still have not found him on the 1860 census for Bexar county Texas. I know he lived there in 1860 because he was married in January and bought land in March. The census wasn't taken for that area till the summer. At least that is what is suggested by what is on line. I don't know if the Wilhelmina Fuhrmeister is part of my line she could be but at this time I am not sure. Heinrich had four sisters(no brother so far) the younger two were Wilhelmina Luisa and Wilhelmina Johanna, so it very well could be one of them. I will be looking into that for sure. So much of what I have now I have obtained with in the last two or three years. Thank you Ursula and Karl I did go ahead and order the microfiche from the FHL. What is nice about this is it is not a film it is a fiche so it was only .15 cents for each one (.45 cents total) and they will stay at the FHL and not be returned so I can look at them when ever I want. Keep your fingers crossed that he will be on there. > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 21:52:07 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Fuhrmeister > > Kerry, > > this is most frustrating. Now that you have the date there is no place that has the PL. > You may have no choice but to order the film that Karl listed in his post. > > I have the printed index of the Ships Passenger Lists, Port of Galveston, Texas, 1846-1871. > I checked on your Heinrich right away but all I found was Wilhelmine Fuhrmister/Fuhrmeister, who arrived in Galveston on 11 Dec 1868 from Bremen on the bark FORTUNA. > > Next I visited Genealogy.com, who also shows passenger arrivals for Galveston under "Atlantic Ports, Gulf Coast and Great Lakes, Roll 3, Galveston 1846-1871. Here I expected to at least find Wilhelmine - no she's not listed!! > > Next I visited Ancestry again. They too have the "Atlantic Ports, Gulf Coast.....1846-1871. They do show Wilhelmine but no Heinrich. > > So the conclusion is that the records for Galveston available online and in print are incomplete! > There is also a note that states that many of their records were lost in the big hurricane at the turn of the century. > > So, you might as well go ahead and order the film as this is your only choice. > > Ursula > ___________________________________________________ > There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Fuhrmeister" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2010 3:38:24 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [G-P-L] Fuhrmeister > > > > > I Have a date! I have a copy of Heinrich Fuhrmeister's Declaration of Intent to Naturalize. On this document he says he landed in Galveston, Texas on or about 4th of December 1854. No ship name though :( At least it is something. What I was told was wrong he didn't enter at Pittsburg. > > > > What sources would have these passenger lists? Here is what I have checked so far; Ancestry.com they have a group of passenger lists that should cover the year and port that I need but it skips 1853,54,55,and 56. This is also a film that is available through the FHL but since it is from the same NARA information that ancestry has I don't think the list I need would be on there. I am not sure if the Texas Seaport Museum has recovered from the last Hurricane which devastated Galveston. Is there any other source for the port of Galveston TX for December 1854? > > > > Any idea's would be great > > Thanks Kerry > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/

Kerry There is a FHC library film # 6099940 as follows; Title Passenger lists for Galveston, 1850-1855 Authors Blaha, Albert J. (Main Author) Lembcke, Eva (Added Author) Note Location Film Also on microfiche. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1992. 3 microfiche ; 11 x 15 cm. FHL US/CAN Fiche 6099940 You can order the film to view and copy photo pages at the nearest LDS FHC library. Karl Roussin ========================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Fuhrmeister" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:38 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Fuhrmeister > > > > I Have a date! I have a copy of Heinrich Fuhrmeister's Declaration of > Intent to Naturalize. On this document he says he landed in Galveston, > Texas on or about 4th of December 1854. No ship name though :( At least > it is something. What I was told was wrong he didn't enter at Pittsburg. > > > > What sources would have these passenger lists? Here is what I have checked > so far; Ancestry.com they have a group of passenger lists that should > cover the year and port that I need but it skips 1853,54,55,and 56. This > is also a film that is available through the FHL but since it is from the > same NARA information that ancestry has I don't think the list I need > would be on there. I am not sure if the Texas Seaport Museum has recovered > from the last Hurricane which devastated Galveston. Is there any other > source for the port of Galveston TX for December 1854? > > > > Any idea's would be great > > Thanks Kerry > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I Have a date! I have a copy of Heinrich Fuhrmeister's Declaration of Intent to Naturalize. On this document he says he landed in Galveston, Texas on or about 4th of December 1854. No ship name though :( At least it is something. What I was told was wrong he didn't enter at Pittsburg. What sources would have these passenger lists? Here is what I have checked so far; Ancestry.com they have a group of passenger lists that should cover the year and port that I need but it skips 1853,54,55,and 56. This is also a film that is available through the FHL but since it is from the same NARA information that ancestry has I don't think the list I need would be on there. I am not sure if the Texas Seaport Museum has recovered from the last Hurricane which devastated Galveston. Is there any other source for the port of Galveston TX for December 1854? Any idea's would be great Thanks Kerry _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/

Thanks for your assistance. It is great to be able to add these little bits to my research. Sue

Philippa Scarlett There are two listed in the Family Search page , one was in the 1777 era , and one is as follows; -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CARL FRIEDRICH KIRMESS Pedigree Male -------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 11 NOV 1854 Christening: 21 JAN 1855 Sankt Marien, Berlin Stadt, Brandenburg, Preussen Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: GOTTHOLD ALBERT KIRMESS Family Mother: EMMA LOUISE SIEDEL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C999692 1837 - 1842 0070051 Film 1124816 Film C999692 1842 - 1849 0070052 Film NONE C999692 1850 - 1859 0070053 Film NONE C999692 1859 - 1864 0070054 Film NONE Note; the batch number . C999692 1864 - 1865 0070055 Karl Roussin ======================================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philippa Scarlett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 12:42 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Name Kirmess on passenger lists > I've recently joined the list - I live in Australia and am looking > for the name Kirmess on passenger lists between Germany, England and > also Australia in the first decade of the 20th century and possibly > later. The name I am seeking is Carl/Karl/Charles Kirmess. This man > was at one time engaged to my grandmother's cousin Lily Service of > Randwick, New South Wales (a Sydney suburb). but we know little about > him and his movements. > > I'd be grateful for any information and am happy to share passenger > list details I come across in my research. > > Philippa Scarlett > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carlene, For what it's worth: the word "Ehefrau" means "spouse, wife" but not "Hausfrau" or "House keeper"! Ursula ___________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlene Trouth" <[email protected]> To: "GPL" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 11:38:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Durler Emil Durler (umlat over the u) age 36, Kaufman (merchant). Residence: Zurich, Schweiz. Destination: Sinapur (Singapore. Lucy Durler, age 23, hausfrau (house wife) Llilly Durler, age 4, Tochter (daughter) Departure Date: 11 Jan 1896 Ship: Kriemhild - Captain: Forck, Th. (umlat over o) Ship Flag: Deutschland Point of Departure: Hamburg Port of Arrival: Ostindien; China, Japan Source Citation: Staatsarchive Hamburg, 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band o92 A, Seite 32 (Mikrofo;, Nr. K_1754 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:37:33 +0800 > Subject: [G-P-L] Durler > > I saw that Emil and Lucy Durler are listed in the Hamburg Passenger Lists at Ancestry.de but I cannot access those records from my ancestry membership. Can anyone please access those records and send me any details of Lucy ( nee Habekost) and Emil Durler. > I cannot find anything about this couple after their marriage in Singapore 1891. At that time Emil was a resident of Macassar. (Sulawesi) > With Thanks > > Sue > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Ursula. > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:32:18 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Durler > > Carlene, > > For what it's worth: > > the word "Ehefrau" means "spouse, wife" but not "Hausfrau" or "House keeper"! > > Ursula > ___________________________________________________ > There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carlene Trouth" <[email protected]> > To: "GPL" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 5, 2010 11:38:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Durler > > > Emil Durler (umlat over the u) age 36, Kaufman (merchant). Residence: Zurich, Schweiz. Destination: Sinapur (Singapore. > > Lucy Durler, age 23, hausfrau (house wife) > > Llilly Durler, age 4, Tochter (daughter) > > > > Departure Date: 11 Jan 1896 > > Ship: Kriemhild - Captain: Forck, Th. (umlat over o) > > Ship Flag: Deutschland > > Point of Departure: Hamburg > > Port of Arrival: Ostindien; China, Japan > > > > Source Citation: Staatsarchive Hamburg, 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band o92 A, Seite > > 32 (Mikrofo;, Nr. K_1754 > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:37:33 +0800 > > Subject: [G-P-L] Durler > > > > I saw that Emil and Lucy Durler are listed in the Hamburg Passenger Lists at Ancestry.de but I cannot access those records from my ancestry membership. Can anyone please access those records and send me any details of Lucy ( nee Habekost) and Emil Durler. > > I cannot find anything about this couple after their marriage in Singapore 1891. At that time Emil was a resident of Macassar. (Sulawesi) > > With Thanks > > > > Sue > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for welcoming me to the list.. and the PL that has been sent to me. I really appreciate it. My research stems from Great Great Great Grandmother Sarah Bandy (nee Parkes) who went to Singapore in 1861 with 2 daughters, Elizabeth and Maria. Elizaabeth married Carl Habekost, a sea captain running coastal steamers between Singapore and surrounds. There childen are as follows. Carl MAtthew b 1868, married Jessie Booth Altha Maria b 1869, m Johannes Deidrich Reese. Chowfa Louisa b 1871, ma Peter Murphy Lucy Elizabeth Henrietta b 1872, m Emil Durler Elenore b 1874 Henry John William b 1875, m Constance Madeline John Julius Gloria b 1877 Jenneth Amelia Theresa b 1880, m Arthur Coulcher Regina Johannah Luisa b 1880, m Chalres Harold Darke. If anyone can shed any further light on these families, I would be really appreciative. Sue

Emil Durler (umlat over the u) age 36, Kaufman (merchant). Residence: Zurich, Schweiz. Destination: Sinapur (Singapore. Lucy Durler, age 23, hausfrau (house wife) Llilly Durler, age 4, Tochter (daughter) Departure Date: 11 Jan 1896 Ship: Kriemhild - Captain: Forck, Th. (umlat over o) Ship Flag: Deutschland Point of Departure: Hamburg Port of Arrival: Ostindien; China, Japan Source Citation: Staatsarchive Hamburg, 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band o92 A, Seite 32 (Mikrofo;, Nr. K_1754 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:37:33 +0800 > Subject: [G-P-L] Durler > > I saw that Emil and Lucy Durler are listed in the Hamburg Passenger Lists at Ancestry.de but I cannot access those records from my ancestry membership. Can anyone please access those records and send me any details of Lucy ( nee Habekost) and Emil Durler. > I cannot find anything about this couple after their marriage in Singapore 1891. At that time Emil was a resident of Macassar. (Sulawesi) > With Thanks > > Sue > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I saw that Emil and Lucy Durler are listed in the Hamburg Passenger Lists at Ancestry.de but I cannot access those records from my ancestry membership. Can anyone please access those records and send me any details of Lucy ( nee Habekost) and Emil Durler. I cannot find anything about this couple after their marriage in Singapore 1891. At that time Emil was a resident of Macassar. (Sulawesi) With Thanks Sue

Thank you for your info - you're the only Mormon I currently know of, so I appreciate your help. Julia --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Baerbel Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: ...In the pioneer histories I have read, it often mentions the Mormon ferry operators... Baerbel

Thanks, Michael - some helpful stuff there. It turns out to be complicated commercial issue. --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Timmy <[email protected]> wrote: ...maybe you'll find something here: http://tiny.cc/13bNP Michael

I am just catching up on some saved emails. I live in central Minnesota, and grew up in the rural Hennepin County area and we had and do have both Luchts and Berndt. Almost all the families that were German and settled in rural Maple Grove came from the Posen area. My family, Beier, came from Rogow in central Posnan. And so did the Hiller family which lived next door. Luchts from my area are wriiten down on census lists as coming from Posnan. so you might want to do a family search in the catalog and try that province first if you are still hunting. I will file your email with your names. marge -------------------------------------------------- From: "Eugene Wiese" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 8:48 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Lucht Immigration > Ursula, > > There are Wiese families all over the central part of the USA, but my > family > settled in Dane County, Wisconsin. I have learned that they came from > Lehsten, Mecklenburg, but I have not yet looked at any records from that > area. I believe that FamilySearch has filmed some of the church records, > but I have not had access to those yet. I have the Hamburg and New York > ship lists, and the page in the Mecklenburg Census. My 2nd great > grandfather, Joachim Wiese, along with his wife, Friedericke, emigrated in > 1854 in a barque-rigged sailing ship called the "Elbe". It took over a > month to get here. There were five other family members on the list, but > I > have never traced them thus far in the USA except for my great > grandfather. > My great grandfather was one of those five, along with his wife > Friedericka. > There were also his sisters: Wilhelmina, Friederika, and Johanne. (That > made three Friederickes in the party. I imagine Joachim's wife was called > "Rike" since she appears that way on a census. And I have heard that > Johann's wife was sometimes called "Frieda". But I have no idea what > Johann's sister was called.) Other Wiese families settled in Iowa. After > that they moved all over. I have lived in seven different states at > various > times in my life. Now that I am half a year away from my 82nd birthday, I > believe that I have done with traveling. I do not often say it, but "Ich > bin stoltz daß ich Deutsch bin." > > If you ever run across anything about my family in Germany, let me know. > My > maternal grandparents were named Berndt, came from Jastrow, and settled in > Porter County, Indiana. I have not been able to trace them at all in > Germany (Poland). According to a web site the records "waren im zweiten > Weltkrieg vernichtet." > > Gene > > Eugene M. Wiese > 838 Linlawn Drive > Wabash, IN 46992-3903 > [email protected] > (260) 846-0516 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ursula" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: 04 January, 2010 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Lucht Immigration > > >> Gene, >> >> Thanks for the memories [my own] even though it took all but 8 hours to >> get here from Germany, the bureaucracy was awful. >> And you know what, we forgot to mention the crying babies and the older >> children [when are we going to get there?]. >> You are so right, we should hail them as heroes to have even remembered >> their name after all that! >> >> Gene, I'm trying to jog my memory of where I have read about the "Wiese" >> immigrants? >> Did they by any chance settle in St Clair County, Michigan? >> >> Ursula > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just getting around to reading the article about the uprising. Excellent. My gratitude Ursala. marge -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ursula" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:01 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Germany 1830-1850 > The most notable event that occurred in the years between 1830 and 1850 > was the peasant revolt of 1848/49, the failure of which caused many > intellectuals to emigrate to the US. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848_in_the_German_states > > Ursula > > ____________________________________________________ > There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Fuhrmeister" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 10:03:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Germany 1830-1850 > > > I am also interested in books covering this area and time frame. My > ancestor was born in 1832 in Rhoden, Halberstadt and came here in 1854. I > ran across two books that are text books i believe, by Phillip G Dwyer one > is called The Rise of Prussia, 1700-1830 and the second is called Modern > Prussian History, 1830-1947. I was looking for maps of the the area at the > time that I found them and they sound interesting. These books are a bit > spendy but are on Amazon.com. > > > > hope that is a bit of a help. > > Kerry > >> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:48:51 -0800 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Germany 1830-1850 >> >> >> Yea, that would be the time frame I am interested in as well. My >> ancestors came to the US in 1844. >> Thank you,Rick >> >> --- On Mon, 1/18/10, BF <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> From: BF <[email protected]> >> Subject: [G-P-L] Germany 1830-1850 >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 7:34 PM >> >> Do you know of any books that cover the period about 1830-1850 in >> Germany? >> >> Betty >> FL >> >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >> http://www.germanyroots.com >> >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: >> http://www.germanyroots.com >> >> Please visit and participate in our new forum >> http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >