Hi, Sandy - Would you happen to know if you descend from Arthur MEEKS (or his family)  - he spent some time in Cleveland mid-twentieh century, married to Betty Louise KAMIS for a while, kids include Arthur Dwight MEEKS and James Glen MEEKS? I don't want to waste any leads. Forgive if I've already asked you. Yours, Julia

May is first born to John and Mary (Stauffer) and will need to see if her Mary (Euchner) Trieschel list berth date and place of birth. What are the numbers following the marriage date - will they help me find more ? Starr Kat In a message dated 3/9/2010 2:55:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: TRIESCHEL, EMIL m EUCHNER, MARY 1886-01-21 00B/0171 00004704 IROQUOIS Perhaps you have this info? 1920 IL Iroquois Co shows John 81, b abt 1839, immigrated 1850, wife Fredericka(e?) 71, immigrated 1882. Same page shows Grant and wife Lela? both 39 and b IL, his parents b Germany, her fa Germany, mo Switzerland, with son Orland 14 b IL. IL Marriages shows EUCHNER, JOHN F m BUNKER, MINNIE 1890-01-04 005/0348 00005738 IROQUOIS Betty FL From: [email protected] Subject: [G-P-L] Stofer,Stoffer,Stauffer spelling 1860 census To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This was forwarded to us by a reader from the 1860 census of Kalamazoo, Michigan and I am searching for family connections and knowledge of the family travels to Illinois and Ohio through 1869 Mary (1844) is believed to be the wife of my Great Great Great Grandfather Johannes (John) Euchner (1838) and married 1860-65 before birth of daughter Mary A. ( ? 1865-66) and John F. (? 1866-68) possibly in Tazewell County, Illinois. Third of ninth children Benjamin (1869) was born in Martinton Township, Iroquois County, Illinois where John purchased over 200 acres of farmland so recorded. No documentation prior to land purchases as proof. Later census shows Emma (1860) sister of Mary in the household in Martinton and found her death in Iroquois County. Mary died 1910 in Martinton, John in 1920. Family book included picture of John F., wife, brother Grant, wife all leaving for Ohio in 1902, possible are of Morton Township, to help family with the operation of a family farm, Euchner or Stoffer not known and a picture of the farm barn. I also recall an email print of the full 1860 census including additional brothers and sister of May and Emma Thanks for past and future helpers - Starr Kat For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you - yes I have the information and like many documents there is so much that research shows could be corrected. John 81, was born/christened 8 January 1838 according to Church books in Grafenberg, Germany. Immigrated application was in 1854 date left not confirmed. Fredericka is second wife and parents both German - first wife Mary Stauffer was Swiss. Leah, wife of Grant was a Pilotte, French Canadians Orlan is my Great Grandfather. In a message dated 3/9/2010 2:43:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Perhaps you have this info? 1920 IL Iroquois Co shows John 81, b abt 1839, immigrated 1850, wife Fredericka(e?) 71, immigrated 1882. Same page shows Grant and wife Lela? both 39 and b IL, his parents b Germany, her fa Germany, mo Switzerland, with son Orland 14 b IL. IL Marriages shows EUCHNER, JOHN F m BUNKER, MINNIE 1890-01-04 005/0348 00005738 IROQUOIS Betty FL From: [email protected] Subject: [G-P-L] Stofer,Stoffer,Stauffer spelling 1860 census To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This was forwarded to us by a reader from the 1860 census of Kalamazoo, Michigan and I am searching for family connections and knowledge of the family travels to Illinois and Ohio through 1869 Mary (1844) is believed to be the wife of my Great Great Great Grandfather Johannes (John) Euchner (1838) and married 1860-65 before birth of daughter Mary A. ( ? 1865-66) and John F. (? 1866-68) possibly in Tazewell County, Illinois. Third of ninth children Benjamin (1869) was born in Martinton Township, Iroquois County, Illinois where John purchased over 200 acres of farmland so recorded. No documentation prior to land purchases as proof. Later census shows Emma (1860) sister of Mary in the household in Martinton and found her death in Iroquois County. Mary died 1910 in Martinton, John in 1920. Family book included picture of John F., wife, brother Grant, wife all leaving for Ohio in 1902, possible are of Morton Township, to help family with the operation of a family farm, Euchner or Stoffer not known and a picture of the farm barn. I also recall an email print of the full 1860 census including additional brothers and sister of May and Emma Thanks for past and future helpers - Starr Kat For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

TRIESCHEL, EMIL m  EUCHNER, MARY                        1886-01-21 00B/0171 00004704 IROQUOIS Perhaps you have this info? 1920 IL Iroquois Co shows John 81, b abt 1839, immigrated 1850, wife Fredericka(e?) 71, immigrated 1882.  Same page shows Grant and wife Lela? both 39 and b IL, his parents b Germany, her fa Germany, mo Switzerland, with son Orland 14 b IL. IL Marriages shows EUCHNER, JOHN F  m BUNKER, MINNIE                       1890-01-04 005/0348 00005738 IROQUOIS Betty FL From: [email protected] Subject: [G-P-L] Stofer,Stoffer,Stauffer spelling 1860 census To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This was forwarded to us by a reader from the 1860 census of  Kalamazoo, Michigan and I am searching for family connections and knowledge of  the family travels to Illinois and Ohio through 1869  Mary (1844) is believed to be the wife of my Great Great Great  Grandfather Johannes (John) Euchner (1838) and married 1860-65 before birth of  daughter Mary A. ( ? 1865-66) and John F. (? 1866-68) possibly in  Tazewell County, Illinois. Third of ninth children Benjamin (1869) was  born in Martinton Township, Iroquois County, Illinois where John purchased over 200 acres of farmland so recorded. No documentation prior to land purchases as  proof. Later census shows Emma (1860) sister of Mary in the household in  Martinton and found her death in Iroquois County.  Mary died 1910 in  Martinton, John in 1920.  Family book included picture of John F.,  wife, brother Grant, wife all leaving for Ohio in 1902, possible are of  Morton Township, to help family with the operation of a family farm, Euchner or  Stoffer not known and a picture of the farm barn.  I also recall an  email print of the full 1860 census including additional brothers and sister of  May and Emma Thanks for past and future helpers - Starr  Kat

Perhaps you have this info? 1920 IL Iroquois Co shows John 81, b abt 1839, immigrated 1850, wife Fredericka(e?) 71, immigrated 1882.  Same page shows Grant and wife Lela? both 39 and b IL, his parents b Germany, her fa Germany, mo Switzerland, with son Orland 14 b IL. IL Marriages shows EUCHNER, JOHN F  m BUNKER, MINNIE                       1890-01-04 005/0348 00005738 IROQUOIS Betty FL From: [email protected] Subject: [G-P-L] Stofer,Stoffer,Stauffer spelling 1860 census To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This was forwarded to us by a reader from the 1860 census of  Kalamazoo, Michigan and I am searching for family connections and knowledge of  the family travels to Illinois and Ohio through 1869  Mary (1844) is believed to be the wife of my Great Great Great  Grandfather Johannes (John) Euchner (1838) and married 1860-65 before birth of  daughter Mary A. ( ? 1865-66) and John F. (? 1866-68) possibly in  Tazewell County, Illinois. Third of ninth children Benjamin (1869) was  born in Martinton Township, Iroquois County, Illinois where John purchased over 200 acres of farmland so recorded. No documentation prior to land purchases as  proof. Later census shows Emma (1860) sister of Mary in the household in  Martinton and found her death in Iroquois County.  Mary died 1910 in  Martinton, John in 1920.  Family book included picture of John F.,  wife, brother Grant, wife all leaving for Ohio in 1902, possible are of  Morton Township, to help family with the operation of a family farm, Euchner or  Stoffer not known and a picture of the farm barn.  I also recall an  email print of the full 1860 census including additional brothers and sister of  May and Emma Thanks for past and future helpers - Starr  Kat

Whaaat? I've never heard of this in my life and I've been computer literate since 1980! You go right ahead and compose your emails in Word, whoever told you that characters will change when copied into the email body must have been thinking of umlautet text uploaded onto websites by people with foreign keyboards - primarily Germans and Japanese - who enter text on American websites. You go right ahead and compose your text in Word. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica Cangiano" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2010 1:49:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [G-P-L] Reposting of introduction message My sincere apologies, everyone, I didn't know that it's not a good idea to write messages in Word and then post them in mailing lists (as doing so can cause some of the characters, like apostrophes, that you used when composing your message to appear as question marks.) I'm going to re-post my initial message and hopefully this time it will be free of this issue. (*Original message*) Hi everyone, I’m new to this mailing list and am taking Wolf up on his friendly invitation to introduce myself to the group. My name is Jessica, I’m 25 years old, and I’ve recently begun to delve into my family’s genealogy. I’ve been a history buff with an interest in genealogy quite literally my whole life, but it’s only been during the past couple of months that I’ve actually started to put my shoulder to the wheel and dive into exploring my family’s past. At present I know very little regarding my family history beyond the names of my great-grandparents (in the case of one g-grandfather, I don’t even know his name yet), save for my maternal great-grandfather’s family (the Burkhards), who I’ve very recently been able to discover quite a lot about. On my maternal side, my German ancestry springs from the Burkhard (Burkhart) line. It appears that when the Burkhards in my tree came to the new world, many of them (or their descendants) settled in (or later moved to) New York, Nebraska, Iowa, and Ohio (though I’ve found them in other states as well). My maternal great-grandfather was Charles Burkhard (b. 1874 in Omaha, Nebraska, d. In 1945 in Dawson City, Yukon) he married (my g-grandmother) Marie Lefebvre (b. 1886 in St. Honore De Shenley, Quebec, d. 1958 in Long Beach, California). My great-grandparents had nine children, the youngest of their kids, Bernice Schill (née Burkhard), is my grandmother (b. 1930 in Dawson City, Yukon). All of the Burkhard children, save for my grandmother have, sadly, passed away at this point. Bernice married my grandfather Arnold Schill (b. 1923, d. 1990) in 1953 and they had three children, including my mother (Lynn Marie Schill) who was born in 1958 in Maple Ridge, British Columbia. (Their other kids are Donald Wayne [d. 1977] and Lori Gail.) I do not having very much to go on regarding Arnold Schill’ family at this point. His parents’ names were Johannes and Maria Schill (I do not know Maria’s maiden name), who used the names “John and Marie” starting at some point after they arrived in Canada in 1930. Sadly my grandfather (Arnold) passed away in 1990, and so my (very limited) knowledge of his family comes from what my grandmother (Bernice) can remember, as well as from a passenger list I found (from a ship called the Montclare, which was part of the Canada Pacific fleet). Bernice believes that my grandfather and his parents (and siblings) were Romanian, and the ship’s log backs this up (as the Schill’s country of origin is listed as Romania). On this voyage the ship departed from Hamburg, Germany and landed in Montreal, Quebec on June 21, 1930. However – and this is purely hypothetical on my part at this point – I cannot help but wonder if at some point the Schill family has roots in Germany, where the surname Schill sometimes appears. This is definitely something that I’m actively trying to find information about. At this time, aside from the names of some of Arnold’s siblings, and his parent’s place of death (both passed away in Pitt Meadows, British Columbia), I do not have any information about this branch of my family. I am very actively investigating the Schill family and hope that I will be able to take that part of my family tree beyond 1923 (the year when my grandfather was born). Some initial things I’ve love to learn are what part of Romania the Schill family was from, what Johannes and Maria’s parents were named (and from there keep building the Schill line further back), when/where John, Maria and their other kids were born, and if in fact, they were of German origin. On my paternal side, I know very little about my Germany relations, but I’ll share what I have discovered so far. My paternal great-grandfather was named Alfred Grams and he was born in Germany (I don’t know whereabouts), but immigrated to Canada as a child. He may have been born in 1920 (I am not certain yet of this) and possibly died in the 1970s (according to my mother, who does not recall meeting Alfred, he died before I was born in ’84). He may have died in Vancouver, British Columbia. (He may have fought, I’m assuming for Canada, in WW2.) I do not know the names of Alfred’s parents (that said, his mother may have been called Lydia, though I’m not sure of this yet), where they were born or anything at all about them. Alfred had siblings, but I do not know their name (save for that one brother may have been called Gustav/Gus). Alfred married my paternal great-grandmother, Mary Walker (about whom I know literally nothing save for her name and approximate year of death, 1995), and together they had three children: Elaine (deceased in the 1990s, was married to Robert [Bob] McCannon, with whom she had two children: Kelly and Jason), Ronald (married a woman named Jeanette [maiden name unknown], had at least two children), and my grandmother, Jean Margaret (b. circa 1942, possibly in Nelson, British Columbia). At some point after their children were born, Alfred and Mary (Walker) divorced. Mary did not remarry, I do not know if Alfred did. Jean (my grandmother) married Loren (sometimes spelled “Lorn”) --- (I know this person’s surname, but for reasons of privacy do not wish to use it online, if you believe you know anything about Jean Grams, please contact me privately and I’d be happy to share Loren’s surname with you). They had four children: Gregory (my father), Debbie (Deborah), Cheryl, and Laurie. At the time my father was born (in 1957) the family was living in Nelson, British Columbia, but shortly thereafter Loren and Jean relocated to the Lower Mainland area of British Columbia. (Note: Loren’s family are of Russian decent and I know exceptionally little about this branch of my family tree; Loren’s mother’s first name was Helen [maiden name unknown], but I do not know his father’s name.) I would greatly love to learn more about the family line of Alfred Grams. At this point in time, the only (and I really do mean “only”) thing I know about his ancestors is that at some point in the 19th century he had a relative named Gottlieb Grams. Regarding the Burkhard family, I’ve been able to discover relatives (via some fantastic genealogy work one of my relatives has carried out) stemming further back than my g-grandfather (Charles Burkhard). I know that his parents were Frank Simon Burkhard and Genevieve Agnes Pischke (her parents were Albert and Victoria [maiden name unknown], and they are as far back as I have information on the Pischke family line). Census records indicate that the Pischke family was of West Prussian ancestry (origin) and lists their mother tongue as being Polish. I would love to find more out about this family, including what their ties to Germany were. Frank Simon Burkhard’s parents (my g-g-g-grandparents) were John (I do not know if this was an anglicised version of Johannes/Johann) Burkhard and Catherine Riedel (parents names unknown). John and Catherine had at least two children: (my g-g-grandfather) Frank Simon (b. 1850 in New York, d. 1910 in Grand Island, Nebraska), and John Burkhard (Jr.) (b. 1844, d. between 1881 – 1900). John married a woman named Cecelia Burkley (b. 1845, d. circa 1920). Cecelia was the daughter of Vincent Burkley and Theresa Stelzer (I do not know more about the Burkley/Stelzer history beyond this, I know the names of John and Cecelia’s kids and many of those peoples’ descendants, though). John and Frank’s parents are thought to be the generation that brought this branch of the Burkhard family tree to America from Germany (possibly circa 1830, after which they settled in Erie Co. New York). I hope very much to one day discover the name of the ship they came over on! John’s father (my g-g-g-g-grandfather) was Simon Burkhard/t (b. circa 1790 in Germany) and his wife was Catherine Zwick. Simon’s father (my g-g-g-g-g-grandfather) was Johann Theobald Burkhard/t (b. circa 1760 in Germany), who was married to Anna Maria Screiner. This past weekend I discovered a RootsWeb document which includes someone named Johann Theobald Burkard/t (who is listed as having a son named Simon) and carries that man’s family line even further back. I am in the process of trying to conclusively (as best as possible) determine if the “Johan Theobald Burkhart” in that document is in fact, the same one in my tree. (Very exciting!) Now before this posts turns into a small book, I will wrap up here. This is my first time ever posting anything online publically about any of my family members (be it in mailing list or elsewhere), and I really am delighted to have found, and be a part of, this group. I look forward to reading your posts and getting to you some of you and your families better! (If anyone reading this can provide further information about any of the people listed above, please do not hesitate to contact me.) Happy genealogical sleuthing to all! Jessica For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This was forwarded to us by a reader from the 1860 census of Kalamazoo, Michigan and I am searching for family connections and knowledge of the family travels to Illinois and Ohio through 1869 Mary (1844) is believed to be the wife of my Great Great Great Grandfather Johannes (John) Euchner (1838) and married 1860-65 before birth of daughter Mary A. ( ? 1865-66) and John F. (? 1866-68) possibly in Tazewell County, Illinois. Third of ninth children Benjamin (1869) was born in Martinton Township, Iroquois County, Illinois where John purchased over 200 acres of farmland so recorded. No documentation prior to land purchases as proof. Later census shows Emma (1860) sister of Mary in the household in Martinton and found her death in Iroquois County. Mary died 1910 in Martinton, John in 1920. Family book included picture of John F., wife, brother Grant, wife all leaving for Ohio in 1902, possible are of Morton Township, to help family with the operation of a family farm, Euchner or Stoffer not known and a picture of the farm barn. I also recall an email print of the full 1860 census including additional brothers and sister of May and Emma Thanks for past and future helpers - Starr Kat

Thank you - great period maps and prints - Note - I am on dial up and switched to German view to get 2 maps that wouldn't load frin the English version. Just thought I would pass that on In a message dated 3/8/2010 10:07:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: "German History in Documents and Images" This site is really exciting for me. It's an online textbook with chapters, applicable drawings/photos, charts, and maps. Nearly everything is in downloadable PDFs or savable JPGs. You can view the site in German or English. My curiosity lies in 1890-1899 Germany when the family came to Cleveland, so I downloaded everything from Chapter 5. http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/home.cfm For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My sincere apologies, everyone, I didn't know that it's not a good idea to write messages in Word and then post them in mailing lists (as doing so can cause some of the characters, like apostrophes, that you used when composing your message to appear as question marks.) I'm going to re-post my initial message and hopefully this time it will be free of this issue. (*Original message*) Hi everyone, I’m new to this mailing list and am taking Wolf up on his friendly invitation to introduce myself to the group. My name is Jessica, I’m 25 years old, and I’ve recently begun to delve into my family’s genealogy. I’ve been a history buff with an interest in genealogy quite literally my whole life, but it’s only been during the past couple of months that I’ve actually started to put my shoulder to the wheel and dive into exploring my family’s past. At present I know very little regarding my family history beyond the names of my great-grandparents (in the case of one g-grandfather, I don’t even know his name yet), save for my maternal great-grandfather’s family (the Burkhards), who I’ve very recently been able to discover quite a lot about. On my maternal side, my German ancestry springs from the Burkhard (Burkhart) line. It appears that when the Burkhards in my tree came to the new world, many of them (or their descendants) settled in (or later moved to) New York, Nebraska, Iowa, and Ohio (though I’ve found them in other states as well). My maternal great-grandfather was Charles Burkhard (b. 1874 in Omaha, Nebraska, d. In 1945 in Dawson City, Yukon) he married (my g-grandmother) Marie Lefebvre (b. 1886 in St. Honore De Shenley, Quebec, d. 1958 in Long Beach, California). My great-grandparents had nine children, the youngest of their kids, Bernice Schill (née Burkhard), is my grandmother (b. 1930 in Dawson City, Yukon). All of the Burkhard children, save for my grandmother have, sadly, passed away at this point. Bernice married my grandfather Arnold Schill (b. 1923, d. 1990) in 1953 and they had three children, including my mother (Lynn Marie Schill) who was born in 1958 in Maple Ridge, British Columbia. (Their other kids are Donald Wayne [d. 1977] and Lori Gail.) I do not having very much to go on regarding Arnold Schill’ family at this point. His parents’ names were Johannes and Maria Schill (I do not know Maria’s maiden name), who used the names “John and Marie” starting at some point after they arrived in Canada in 1930. Sadly my grandfather (Arnold) passed away in 1990, and so my (very limited) knowledge of his family comes from what my grandmother (Bernice) can remember, as well as from a passenger list I found (from a ship called the Montclare, which was part of the Canada Pacific fleet). Bernice believes that my grandfather and his parents (and siblings) were Romanian, and the ship’s log backs this up (as the Schill’s country of origin is listed as Romania). On this voyage the ship departed from Hamburg, Germany and landed in Montreal, Quebec on June 21, 1930. However – and this is purely hypothetical on my part at this point – I cannot help but wonder if at some point the Schill family has roots in Germany, where the surname Schill sometimes appears. This is definitely something that I’m actively trying to find information about. At this time, aside from the names of some of Arnold’s siblings, and his parent’s place of death (both passed away in Pitt Meadows, British Columbia), I do not have any information about this branch of my family. I am very actively investigating the Schill family and hope that I will be able to take that part of my family tree beyond 1923 (the year when my grandfather was born). Some initial things I’ve love to learn are what part of Romania the Schill family was from, what Johannes and Maria’s parents were named (and from there keep building the Schill line further back), when/where John, Maria and their other kids were born, and if in fact, they were of German origin. On my paternal side, I know very little about my Germany relations, but I’ll share what I have discovered so far. My paternal great-grandfather was named Alfred Grams and he was born in Germany (I don’t know whereabouts), but immigrated to Canada as a child. He may have been born in 1920 (I am not certain yet of this) and possibly died in the 1970s (according to my mother, who does not recall meeting Alfred, he died before I was born in ’84). He may have died in Vancouver, British Columbia. (He may have fought, I’m assuming for Canada, in WW2.) I do not know the names of Alfred’s parents (that said, his mother may have been called Lydia, though I’m not sure of this yet), where they were born or anything at all about them. Alfred had siblings, but I do not know their name (save for that one brother may have been called Gustav/Gus). Alfred married my paternal great-grandmother, Mary Walker (about whom I know literally nothing save for her name and approximate year of death, 1995), and together they had three children: Elaine (deceased in the 1990s, was married to Robert [Bob] McCannon, with whom she had two children: Kelly and Jason), Ronald (married a woman named Jeanette [maiden name unknown], had at least two children), and my grandmother, Jean Margaret (b. circa 1942, possibly in Nelson, British Columbia). At some point after their children were born, Alfred and Mary (Walker) divorced. Mary did not remarry, I do not know if Alfred did. Jean (my grandmother) married Loren (sometimes spelled “Lorn”) --- (I know this person’s surname, but for reasons of privacy do not wish to use it online, if you believe you know anything about Jean Grams, please contact me privately and I’d be happy to share Loren’s surname with you). They had four children: Gregory (my father), Debbie (Deborah), Cheryl, and Laurie. At the time my father was born (in 1957) the family was living in Nelson, British Columbia, but shortly thereafter Loren and Jean relocated to the Lower Mainland area of British Columbia. (Note: Loren’s family are of Russian decent and I know exceptionally little about this branch of my family tree; Loren’s mother’s first name was Helen [maiden name unknown], but I do not know his father’s name.) I would greatly love to learn more about the family line of Alfred Grams. At this point in time, the only (and I really do mean “only”) thing I know about his ancestors is that at some point in the 19th century he had a relative named Gottlieb Grams. Regarding the Burkhard family, I’ve been able to discover relatives (via some fantastic genealogy work one of my relatives has carried out) stemming further back than my g-grandfather (Charles Burkhard). I know that his parents were Frank Simon Burkhard and Genevieve Agnes Pischke (her parents were Albert and Victoria [maiden name unknown], and they are as far back as I have information on the Pischke family line). Census records indicate that the Pischke family was of West Prussian ancestry (origin) and lists their mother tongue as being Polish. I would love to find more out about this family, including what their ties to Germany were. Frank Simon Burkhard’s parents (my g-g-g-grandparents) were John (I do not know if this was an anglicised version of Johannes/Johann) Burkhard and Catherine Riedel (parents names unknown). John and Catherine had at least two children: (my g-g-grandfather) Frank Simon (b. 1850 in New York, d. 1910 in Grand Island, Nebraska), and John Burkhard (Jr.) (b. 1844, d. between 1881 – 1900). John married a woman named Cecelia Burkley (b. 1845, d. circa 1920). Cecelia was the daughter of Vincent Burkley and Theresa Stelzer (I do not know more about the Burkley/Stelzer history beyond this, I know the names of John and Cecelia’s kids and many of those peoples’ descendants, though). John and Frank’s parents are thought to be the generation that brought this branch of the Burkhard family tree to America from Germany (possibly circa 1830, after which they settled in Erie Co. New York). I hope very much to one day discover the name of the ship they came over on! John’s father (my g-g-g-g-grandfather) was Simon Burkhard/t (b. circa 1790 in Germany) and his wife was Catherine Zwick. Simon’s father (my g-g-g-g-g-grandfather) was Johann Theobald Burkhard/t (b. circa 1760 in Germany), who was married to Anna Maria Screiner. This past weekend I discovered a RootsWeb document which includes someone named Johann Theobald Burkard/t (who is listed as having a son named Simon) and carries that man’s family line even further back. I am in the process of trying to conclusively (as best as possible) determine if the “Johan Theobald Burkhart” in that document is in fact, the same one in my tree. (Very exciting!) Now before this posts turns into a small book, I will wrap up here. This is my first time ever posting anything online publically about any of my family members (be it in mailing list or elsewhere), and I really am delighted to have found, and be a part of, this group. I look forward to reading your posts and getting to you some of you and your families better! (If anyone reading this can provide further information about any of the people listed above, please do not hesitate to contact me.) Happy genealogical sleuthing to all! Jessica

Hi everyone, I’m new to this mailing list and am taking Wolf up on his friendly invitation to introduce myself to the group. My name is Jessica, I’m 25 years old, and I’ve recently begun to delve into my family’s genealogy. I’ve been a history buff with an interest in genealogy quite literally my whole life, but it’s only been during the past couple of months that I’ve actually started to put my shoulder to the wheel and dive into exploring my family’s past. At present I know very little regarding my family history beyond the names of my great-grandparents (in the case of one g-grandfather, I don’t even know his name yet), save for my maternal great-grandfather’s family (the Burkhards), who I’ve very recently been able to discover quite a lot about. On my maternal side, my German ancestry springs from the Burkhard (Burkhart) line. It appears that when the Burkhards in my tree came to the new world, many of them (or their descendants) settled in (or later moved to) New York, Nebraska, Iowa, and Ohio (though I’ve found them in other states as well). My maternal great-grandfather was Charles Burkhard (b. 1874 in Omaha, Nebraska, d. In 1945 in Dawson City, Yukon) he married (my g-grandmother) Marie Lefebvre (b. 1886 in St. Honore De Shenley, Quebec, d. 1958 in Long Beach, California). My great-grandparents had nine children, the youngest of their kids, Bernice Schill (née Burkhard), is my grandmother (b. 1930 in Dawson City, Yukon). All of the Burkhard children, save for my grandmother have, sadly, passed away at this point. Bernice married my grandfather Arnold Schill (b. 1923, d. 1990) in 1953 and they had three children, including my mother (Lynn Marie Schill) who was born in 1958 in Maple Ridge, British Columbia. (Their other kids are Donald Wayne [d. 1977] and Lori Gail.) I do not having very much to go on regarding Arnold Schill’ family at this point. His parents’ names were Johannes and Maria Schill (I do not know Maria’s maiden name), who used the names “John and Marie” starting at some point after they arrived in Canada in 1930. Sadly my grandfather (Arnold) passed away in 1990, and so my (very limited) knowledge of his family comes from what my grandmother (Bernice) can remember, as well as from a passenger list I found (from a ship called the Montclare, which was part of the Canada Pacific fleet). Bernice believes that my grandfather and his parents (and siblings) were Romanian, and the ship’s log backs this up (as the Schill’s country of origin is listed as Romania). On this voyage the ship departed from Hamburg, Germany and landed in Montreal, Quebec on June 21, 1930. However – and this is purely hypothetical on my part at this point – I cannot help but wonder if at some point the Schill family has roots in Germany, where the surname Schill sometimes appears. This is definitely something that I’m actively trying to find information about. At this time, aside from the names of some of Arnold’s siblings, and his parent’s place of death (both passed away in Pitt Meadows, British Columbia), I do not have any information about this branch of my family. I am very actively investigating the Schill family and hope that I will be able to take that part of my family tree beyond 1923 (the year when my grandfather was born). Some initial things I’ve love to learn are what part of Romania the Schill family was from, what Johannes and Maria’s parents were named (and from there keep building the Schill line further back), when/where John, Maria and their other kids were born, and if in fact, they were of German origin. On my paternal side, I know very little about my Germany relations, but I’ll share what I have discovered so far. My paternal great-grandfather was named Alfred Grams and he was born in Germany (I don’t know whereabouts), but immigrated to Canada as a child. He may have been born in 1920 (I am not certain yet of this) and possibly died in the 1970s (according to my mother, who does not recall meeting Alfred, he died before I was born in ’84). He may have died in Vancouver, British Columbia. (He may have fought, I’m assuming for Canada, in WW2.) I do not know the names of Alfred’s parents (that said, his mother may have been called Lydia, though I’m not sure of this yet), where they were born or anything at all about them. Alfred had siblings, but I do not know their name (save for that one brother may have been called Gustav/Gus). Alfred married my paternal great-grandmother, Mary Walker (about whom I know literally nothing save for her name and approximate year of death, 1995), and together they had three children: Elaine (deceased in the 1990s, was married to Robert [Bob] McCannon, with whom she had two children: Kelly and Jason), Ronald (married a woman named Jeanette [maiden name unknown], had at least two children), and my grandmother, Jean Margaret (b. circa 1942, possibly in Nelson, British Columbia). At some point after their children were born, Alfred and Mary (Walker) divorced. Mary did not remarry, I do not know if Alfred did. Jean (my grandmother) married Loren (sometimes spelled “Lorn”) --- (I know this person’s surname, but for reasons of privacy do not wish to use it online, if you believe you know anything about Jean Grams, please contact me privately and I’d be happy to share Loren’s surname with you). They had four children: Gregory (my father), Debbie (Deborah), Cheryl, and Laurie. At the time my father was born (in 1957) the family was living in Nelson, British Columbia, but shortly thereafter Loren and Jean relocated to the Lower Mainland area of British Columbia. (Note: Loren’s family are of Russian decent and I know exceptionally little about this branch of my family tree; Loren’s mother’s first name was Helen [maiden name unknown], but I do not know his father’s name.) I would greatly love to learn more about the family line of Alfred Grams. At this point in time, the only (and I really do mean “only”) thing I know about his ancestors is that at some point in the 19th century he had a relative named Gottlieb Grams. Regarding the Burkhard family, I’ve been able to discover relatives (via some fantastic genealogy work one of my relatives has carried out) stemming further back than my g-grandfather (Charles Burkhard). I know that his parents were Frank Simon Burkhard and Genevieve Agnes Pischke (her parents were Albert and Victoria [maiden name unknown], and they are as far back as I have information on the Pischke family line). Census records indicate that the Pischke family was of West Prussian ancestry (origin) and lists their mother tongue as being Polish. I would love to find more out about this family, including what their ties to Germany were. Frank Simon Burkhard’s parents (my g-g-g-grandparents) were John (I do not know if this was an anglicised version of Johannes/Johann) Burkhard and Catherine Riedel (parents names unknown). John and Catherine had at least two children: (my g-g-grandfather) Frank Simon (b. 1850 in New York, d. 1910 in Grand Island, Nebraska), and John Burkhard (Jr.) (b. 1844, d. between 1881 – 1900). John married a woman named Cecelia Burkley (b. 1845, d. circa 1920). Cecelia was the daughter of Vincent Burkley and Theresa Stelzer (I do not know more about the Burkley/Stelzer history beyond this, I know the names of John and Cecelia’s kids and many of those peoples’ descendants, though). John and Frank’s parents are thought to be the generation that brought this branch of the Burkhard family tree to America from Germany (possibly circa 1830, after which they settled in Erie Co. New York). I hope very much to one day discover the name of the ship they came over on! John’s father (my g-g-g-g-grandfather) was Simon Burkhard/t (b. circa 1790 in Germany) and his wife was Catherine Zwick. Simon’s father (my g-g-g-g-g-grandfather) was Johann Theobald Burkhard/t (b. circa 1760 in Germany), who was married to Anna Maria Screiner. This past weekend I discovered a RootsWeb document which includes someone named Johann Theobald Burkard/t (who is listed as having a son named Simon) and carries that man’s family line even further back. I am in the process of trying to conclusively (as best as possible) determine if the “Johan Theobald Burkhart” in that document is in fact, the same one in my tree. (Very exciting!) Now before this posts turns into a small book, I will wrap up here. This is my first time ever posting anything online publically about any of my family members (be it in mailing list or elsewhere), and I really am delighted to have found, and be a part of, this group. I look forward to reading your posts and getting to you some of you and your families better! (If anyone reading this can provide further information about any of the people listed above, please do not hesitate to contact me.) Happy genealogical sleuthing to all! Jessica

My great grandfather Gustav Beyer was born in Schemmern on September 2, 1866 He emigrated to the U.S. on June 2, 1871 and settled in Detroit, Michigan. I haven't made any connections in Germany yet. His wife, Catherine Henrie (or Henry) is my current brick wall. They married ~ 1891, and she died in 1903 from typhoid pneumonia. The census records say that both of her parents came from Germany as well, but I'm afraid my great grandfather wasn t such a good reporter of names on the death certificate. I haven't done much with the Riedel line, but a cousin did a lot of work that I haven't had a chance to look at (her book on the family is on file with the LDS library). The Riedels that I know are all from Michigan as well (Huron County), and my paternal grandmother, Meta, is where the line starts for me. If any of this sounds like there may be a connection, please let me know. Thanks, Susan

"German History in Documents and Images" This site is really exciting for me. It's an online textbook with chapters, applicable drawings/photos, charts, and maps. Nearly everything is in downloadable PDFs or savable JPGs. You can view the site in German or English. My curiosity lies in 1890-1899 Germany when the family came to Cleveland, so I downloaded everything from Chapter 5. http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/home.cfm

Lorri, could this be them: Geiger, Joseph, 36 Geiger, Catherine age illegible, 26 or 36? Arrived June 19, 1884 from Bremen-NY, ship "Oder". Ursula ___________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorri" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 8, 2010 11:02:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [G-P-L] Joseph Geiger Searching for Joseph Geiger B 1845 Germany census said he arrived 1885 He lived all his life in Phila Pa. died 1908 his wife is Cathrina Thanks for any help. Lorri searching-for ancestors GEIGER-Veach-Allen-Barnett-CARROLL -GEARIN-KANE-SMITH-MOYLAN DONAHUE-BURNS-Fowler-Fahey UHLE -MANTZ -PSCHYBYLSKI -GRIGOLEIT BUSCHMANN -MONTING-ODONNELL For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ann, I have been looking at the info you've provided but somehow it doesn't add up. Can you give some details as to what you're talking about when you refer to a "Citizenship Abstract"? Who authored the abstract? Why did this abstract give you a date of departure and date of arrival but not the name of the ship? And from where do you have the info that "there are no other passengers from Hesse Darmstadt leaving from Bremen except a man from Hesse Cassel by the name of John Eberhard Schuck"? Again, there must have been the name of the ship somewhere to make this statement, right? The other problem I'm having with this is the continuous change of his first name and the age at immigration. According to the "Citizenship Abstract" his age at immigration in 1851 was 33? That's either incorrect or he fudged his age on his first census, which took place in 1860. Here are the details: 1860 Census, Salisbury Twp., Meigs Co., Ohio SHRODE, Fritz(e), 30 b. Germany ........Susan, 36 b. Germany ........Mary, 5 b. OH ........Philip, 4, b. OH ........Lenard, 4 moonths Infact I noticed throughout the census years, that Fritz became Friedrich in 1870, Godrey in 1880, Susan became Elizabeth, Philip became Peter, and so on. What was the name of your ancestor? Just trying to help! Ursula ___________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Johnson" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2010 8:03:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [G-P-L] Bremen passenger I am a newbie to this list, searching for information on Bremen to New York passenger Gottfried SCHROTH, age 33 of Hesse, Darmstadt; arrival date 07/14/1851; declaration date 05/27/1854. This information is from Citizenship Record Abstracts 1837-1916, U. Cincinnati, Ohio. His Declaration of Intention states that he emigrated from Bremen 7 June, 1851 and arrived at New York 14 July, 1851. How can I further trace this man in Germany? I have tried varied sources in US with no luck. I wrote to Hesse Staatsarchiv in Darmstadt; the reply was that he was not registered in their emmigrant cards, and that the family name is very common there. They need the exact place of origin to pull out further means of searching. How can I find him there? Any ideas from the list using this meager information that I have? Can anyone help? Ann in NC For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for Joseph Geiger B 1845 Germany census said he arrived 1885 He lived all his life in Phila Pa. died 1908 his wife is Cathrina Thanks for any help. Lorri searching-for ancestors GEIGER-Veach-Allen-Barnett-CARROLL -GEARIN-KANE-SMITH-MOYLAN DONAHUE-BURNS-Fowler-Fahey UHLE -MANTZ -PSCHYBYLSKI -GRIGOLEIT BUSCHMANN -MONTING-ODONNELL

Lorri In the IGI there are a lot of Joseph Geiger records. Here is one that married a Katherina Lauffer. The marriage time era is plausible. The batch number M943002 is noted , and the film # 999896 of the town of Frittlingen would give a lot more info of Their wedding , of this particular JOSEF GEIGER -------------------------------------------------------------------------- JOSEF GEIGER Pedigree Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: KATHARINA LAUFFER Family Marriage: 16 MAY 1872 Katholisch, Frittlingen, Schwarzwaldkreis, Wuerttemberg -------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M943002 1808 - 1875 0999896 I hope this is the record that You are searching for. Karl Roussin ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorri" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 10:02 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Joseph Geiger > Searching for Joseph Geiger B 1845 Germany > census said he arrived 1885 > He lived all his life in Phila Pa. died 1908 > his wife is Cathrina > Thanks for any help. > Lorri > > > > > searching-for ancestors > GEIGER-Veach-Allen-Barnett-CARROLL > -GEARIN-KANE-SMITH-MOYLAN > DONAHUE-BURNS-Fowler-Fahey > UHLE -MANTZ -PSCHYBYLSKI -GRIGOLEIT > BUSCHMANN -MONTING-ODONNELL > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-re[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Susan, Where and when are you searching Riedel? Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan" To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 8:56 PM Subject: [G-P-L] New member > Hi, my name is Susan, and Wolf asked me to briefly describe why I'm here. > I > m new to genealogy, and hoping to learn all that I can. All of my > ancestors > came here in the late 1800's, most of them from Germany. I'm specifically > interested in the Bauerle, Riedel, and Beyer lines. There is another > line, > but I'm not clear on the spelling of the name yet (I only have a death > certificate to go on, and it hasn't led anywhere yet). > > In any event, thanks for the warm welcome Wolf. > > Susan

Susan, Glad to hear someone is researching Beyer lines and welcome to genealogy. It's a very fasinating hobby. My fifth gr. grandfather was Casimer Beyer b. 1709 in Germany. All I know about him is that he had a daughter named Mary who married my 4th gr. grandfather, Ludwig Brandt. Ludwig & Mary came to Perry Co. Ohio in the very early 1800's. I grew up in Perry Co. and unfortunately I did not start researching my family until I was older & moved away. Perry Co. Ohio in the town of Somerset is filled with history. So, I would like to know more about Casimer Beyer & his family. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. Kay Brandt Hughes -----Original Message----- From: Susan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Mar 7, 2010 7:56 pm Subject: [G-P-L] New member Hi, my name is Susan, and Wolf asked me to briefly describe why I'm here. I new to genealogy, and hoping to learn all that I can. All of my ancestors ame here in the late 1800's, most of them from Germany. I'm specifically nterested in the Bauerle, Riedel, and Beyer lines. There is another line, ut I'm not clear on the spelling of the name yet (I only have a death ertificate to go on, and it hasn't led anywhere yet). In any event, thanks for the warm welcome Wolf. Susan For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum ttp://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi, my name is Susan, and Wolf asked me to briefly describe why I'm here. I m new to genealogy, and hoping to learn all that I can. All of my ancestors came here in the late 1800's, most of them from Germany. I'm specifically interested in the Bauerle, Riedel, and Beyer lines. There is another line, but I'm not clear on the spelling of the name yet (I only have a death certificate to go on, and it hasn't led anywhere yet). In any event, thanks for the warm welcome Wolf. Susan

You might try LDS Archives.com The Morman Library has data from a number of Duchy's and Kreis's. You can access them through the local Genealogy Library in the Mormon Church. You don't have to be a Morman to use them. They also have a Genealogy Course that is well worth the cost. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:03 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Bremen passenger >I am a newbie to this list, searching for information on Bremen to New York >passenger Gottfried SCHROTH, age 33 of Hesse, Darmstadt; arrival date >07/14/1851; declaration date 05/27/1854. This information is from >Citizenship Record Abstracts 1837-1916, U. Cincinnati, Ohio. His >Declaration of Intention states that he emigrated from Bremen 7 June, 1851 >and arrived at New York 14 July, 1851. How can I further trace this man in >Germany? I have tried varied sources in US with no luck. I wrote to Hesse >Staatsarchiv in Darmstadt; the reply was that he was not registered in >their emmigrant cards, and that the family name is very common there. They >need the exact place of origin to pull out further means of searching. How >can I find him there? Any ideas from the list using this meager >information that I have? > Can anyone help? > > Ann in NC > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >