I asked about the 1940 census some days back; why does it not come out in 2010 rather than nearly mid-year of 2012? Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] German History in Documents and Images > Thank you - great period maps and prints - > > Note - I am on dial up and switched to German view to get 2 maps that > wouldn't load frin the English version. > > Just thought I would pass that on > > > In a message dated 3/8/2010 10:07:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > "German History in Documents and Images" > > This site is really exciting for me. It's an online textbook with > chapters, applicable drawings/photos, charts, and maps. Nearly everything > is in > downloadable PDFs or savable JPGs. You can view the site in German or > English. > > My curiosity lies in 1890-1899 Germany when the family came to Cleveland, > so I downloaded everything from Chapter 5. > > http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/home.cfm > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ursala, do you really think that is political. I didn't mean it that way. just thought it was a fact. > Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 04:09:25 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] ? re' census > > > Let's keep politics out of this, please. > > The 1940 census will be released on April 2, 2012 - the waiting period is 72 years. > > Ursula > ___________________________________________________ > There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO" <[email protected]> > To: "germany-passenger-lists" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 10:46:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] ? re' census > > > It is government. Nothing is very speedy > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:31:20 -0500 > > Subject: [G-P-L] ? re' census > > > > I asked about the 1940 census some days back; why does it not come out in > > 2010 rather than nearly mid-year of 2012? Sandy > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] German History in Documents and Images > > > > > > > Thank you - great period maps and prints - > > > > > > Note - I am on dial up and switched to German view to get 2 maps that > > > wouldn't load frin the English version. > > > > > > Just thought I would pass that on > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 3/8/2010 10:07:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > "German History in Documents and Images" > > > > > > This site is really exciting for me. It's an online textbook with > > > chapters, applicable drawings/photos, charts, and maps. Nearly everything > > > is in > > > downloadable PDFs or savable JPGs. You can view the site in German or > > > English. > > > > > > My curiosity lies in 1890-1899 Germany when the family came to Cleveland, > > > so I downloaded everything from Chapter 5. > > > > > > http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/home.cfm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > > > http://www.germanyroots.com > > > > > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > > > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in > > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > > > http://www.germanyroots.com > > > > > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > > > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/

Julia: No, after my Meeks line came to this country, they settled in the North Adams/Hillsdale area. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "juliasgenes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Reposting of introduction message - for Sandy MEEKS Hi, Sandy - Would you happen to know if you descend from Arthur MEEKS (or his family) - he spent some time in Cleveland mid-twentieh century, married to Betty Louise KAMIS for a while, kids include Arthur Dwight MEEKS and James Glen MEEKS? I don't want to waste any leads. Forgive if I've already asked you. Yours, Julia For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My understanding is that the 72 years was chosen because that was the average life expectancy (at that time). Liz (in Tacoma) ----- Original Message ----- From: "juliasgenes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] ? re' census Actually, it's part of the statutes regarding the census. It's meant as a privacy protection, I believe. I don't know why 72 years was chosen over 70 or 75 years, but the reason are likely available in histories, Congressional Records, maybe even the 'Net, if you're interested. --- On Thu, 3/11/10, HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO <[email protected]> wrote: ...do you really think that is political... just thought it was a fact. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is government. Nothing is very speedy > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:31:20 -0500 > Subject: [G-P-L] ? re' census > > I asked about the 1940 census some days back; why does it not come out in > 2010 rather than nearly mid-year of 2012? Sandy > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:22 AM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] German History in Documents and Images > > > > Thank you - great period maps and prints - > > > > Note - I am on dial up and switched to German view to get 2 maps that > > wouldn't load frin the English version. > > > > Just thought I would pass that on > > > > > > In a message dated 3/8/2010 10:07:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > "German History in Documents and Images" > > > > This site is really exciting for me. It's an online textbook with > > chapters, applicable drawings/photos, charts, and maps. Nearly everything > > is in > > downloadable PDFs or savable JPGs. You can view the site in German or > > English. > > > > My curiosity lies in 1890-1899 Germany when the family came to Cleveland, > > so I downloaded everything from Chapter 5. > > > > http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/home.cfm > > > > > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > > http://www.germanyroots.com > > > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > > http://www.germanyroots.com > > > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/

I admire the team who designed it and maintain it! Good job. --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Kerry Fuhrmeister <[email protected]> wrote: The German History website is really great!

Actually, it's part of the statutes regarding the census. It's meant as a privacy protection, I believe. I don't know why 72 years was chosen over 70 or 75 years, but the reason are likely available in histories, Congressional Records, maybe even the 'Net, if you're interested. --- On Thu, 3/11/10, HARRY MARJORIE DELLWO <[email protected]> wrote: ...do you really think that is  political... just thought it was a fact.

Thanks for the reply. I'm always hopeful. North Adams is is MA, is it not? --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Sandy Meeks <[email protected]> wrote: ...my Meeks line...settled in the North Adams/Hillsdale area.  Sandy

The German History website is really great! thank you for the link Julia _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/

I did go to the Texas seaport Museum website after I posted my question and the search did work but of course I didn't find my ggg-grandfather. I wonder why? I will keep looking I guess, I know what the Declaration of Intent says but what if it was a different port? what other ports in that area could he have entered through in Dec of 1854? Thank you Kerry _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/

OK Russell Thanks for Your reply I have been searching for the place and time for the arrival of the Daniel Oster and Family. They are in the 1830 census of MO. , So I guess that I'll keep on searching for Them . Karl Roussin =========================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Whitaker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:14 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Fw: Galveston Texas seaport museum Karl, I sent the message below about an hour ago and for some reason it was blocked. I am assuming it was not delivered since I did not receive a copy, so I am trying again.. Russell Karl If you go to this URL http://www.galvestonhistory.org/Galveston_Immigration_Database.asp it give information on the Galveston Immigration Database. It states there are more than 130,000 listed from 1846 to 1948 so looks like Daniel arrived somewhere other than Galveston. Russell Whitaker Texas ________________________________ Russell Do You know when the Galveston seaport opened for immigrants ?. I have a G.G.Grandfather Daniel Oster and Family that arrived about 1800 to 1830 , and I have never been able to find the place or time that They arrived. I would guess that They left from Le Havre , France however there does not seem to be any records of departure from Le Havre, France Karl Roussin For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Russell Do You know when the Galveston seaport opened for immigrants ?. I have a G.G.Grandfather Daniel Oster and Family that arrived about 1800 to 1830 , and I have never been able to find the place or time that They arrived. I would guess that They left from Le Havre , France however there does not seem to be any records of departure from Le Havre, France Karl Roussin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Whitaker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Texas seaport museum I found the same message and it has been there for months, but if you click on "Imigration Database" on the left side it takes you to a page that tells about Galveston Immigration Database. On that page click on the highlighted "Online" and it take you to the page where you can enter a persons name, etc. or you can click on the following URL which will take you straight to that page. http://ghf.destinationnext.com/immigration/Search.aspx I input Schmidt and clicked submit and 4 page of different spelling of Schmidt came up at the bottom of the page. The only problem I had is Vessel's. Clicking the pulldown arrow gave name of ship a couple days ago, but today that is not working for me??? Russell Texas ________________________________ From: Ursula <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 3:27:26 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Texas seaport museum Kerry, according to the message something must have happened to their database [probably hacker]. They provide a link where you can ask for a lookup for a fee. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Fuhrmeister" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:39:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [G-P-L] Texas seaport museum Hello list, Does anyone know what is going on with the Texas seaport museum? They had an online Immigrant data base is it up yet? Thanks Kerry _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Karl, I sent the message below about an hour ago and for some reason it was blocked.  I am assuming it was not delivered since I did not receive a copy, so I am trying again.. Russell Karl If you go to this URL   http://www.galvestonhistory.org/Galveston_Immigration_Database.asp  it give information on the Galveston Immigration Database.  It states there are more than 130,000 listed from 1846 to 1948 so looks like Daniel arrived somewhere other than Galveston. Russell Whitaker Texas ________________________________     Russell     Do You know when the Galveston seaport opened for immigrants ?.     I have a G.G.Grandfather Daniel Oster and Family that arrived about 1800 to 1830 , and I have never been able to find the place or time that They arrived.     I would guess that They left from Le Havre , France  however there does not seem to be any records of  departure from Le Havre, France     Karl Roussin

Kerry, according to the message something must have happened to their database [probably hacker]. They provide a link where you can ask for a lookup for a fee. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Fuhrmeister" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:39:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [G-P-L] Texas seaport museum Hello list, Does anyone know what is going on with the Texas seaport museum? They had an online Immigrant data base is it up yet? Thanks Kerry _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found the same message and it has been there for months, but if you click on "Imigration Database" on the left side it takes you to a page that tells about Galveston Immigration Database. On that page click on the highlighted "Online" and it take you to the page where you can enter a persons name, etc. or you can click on the following URL which will take you straight to that page. http://ghf.destinationnext.com/immigration/Search.aspx I input Schmidt and clicked submit and 4 page of different spelling of Schmidt came up at the bottom of the page. The only problem I had is Vessel's. Clicking the pulldown arrow gave name of ship a couple days ago, but today that is not working for me??? Russell Texas ________________________________ From: Ursula <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 3:27:26 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Texas seaport museum Kerry, according to the message something must have happened to their database [probably hacker]. They provide a link where you can ask for a lookup for a fee. Ursula ____________________________________________________ There'll come a time, when you'll have no more time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Fuhrmeister" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:39:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [G-P-L] Texas seaport museum Hello list, Does anyone know what is going on with the Texas seaport museum? They had an online Immigrant data base is it up yet? Thanks Kerry                         _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julia you just said and advised about some very important aspects about family research to a new person. You are 100 percent correct and I thank you for pointing out this major issue. You voiced/wrote the concerns better than I could. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "juliasgenes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:29 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Reposting of introduction message > Hi, Jessica - > > Yes, it is sleuthing exactly and yes, it's exciting! > > Just a cautionary note, though. There's a lot of misinformation that gets > circulated and recirculated, especially with the Internet. Sites like > ancestry.com try to entice you to accept "info" into your family tree from > other members that can really screw things up ("that 1st leaf" as they say > in their ads - can be poison ivy!). A lot of the info on familysearch.org > comes from church-member submitted data that can be very skewed. I know my > mother's was. (The info on the site that comes from source material like > microfilmed death certificates, etc is another, more reliable matter.) > Always ask where somebody got their information. If they don't reply to > your request, they probably don't have a citation. Without citations, it's > next to useless. > > Personal tips: > > * I know it can be frustrating, but go slowly backward from the known to > the unknown, proving each step of the way. Otherwise, you could find > yourself on a genealogical trapeze without a net. > > * Use every scrap of info in a document. The street address on the census > could reveal relationships between people (I've been able to establish > relationships because people from different eras lived in the same house > as it passed around the family). The enumerator (= census taker) could be > a relative. The name of a endorser in an old newspaper patent medicine ad > could turn out to be your great grandaunt (that really happened to me - I > used to think they were all made up). > > * Every 4-5 months or so, as you learn more and more, go back and re-read > documents you haven't looked at in some time. New things will pop out at > you and questions you had before will resolve. > > * 3 x 5 file cards still have a place in your tool kit. They are great for > recording info on people you suspect are related, but can't prove yet - > they can be rearranged every which way to tease out possible pedigree > patterns. > > Most of all - have fun or what's the point? Julia > > >> My name is Jessica, I’m 25 years old, and I’ve recently begun to delve >> into my family’s genealogy. > > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Go Jessica ! ! It is wonderful to know of someone so young with an intense interest in genealogy! And you will find unbelievably helpful souls on this list. Good luck. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica Cangiano" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:49 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Reposting of introduction message My sincere apologies, everyone, I didn't know that it's not a good idea to write messages in Word and then post them in mailing lists (as doing so can cause some of the characters, like apostrophes, that you used when composing your message to appear as question marks.) I'm going to re-post my initial message and hopefully this time it will be free of this issue. (*Original message*) Hi everyone, I’m new to this mailing list and am taking Wolf up on his friendly invitation to introduce myself to the group. My name is Jessica, I’m 25 years old, and I’ve recently begun to delve into my family’s genealogy. I’ve been a history buff with an interest in genealogy quite literally my whole life, but it’s only been during the past couple of months that I’ve actually started to put my shoulder to the wheel and dive into exploring my family’s past. At present I know very little regarding my family history beyond the names of my great-grandparents (in the case of one g-grandfather, I don’t even know his name yet), save for my maternal great-grandfather’s family (the Burkhards), who I’ve very recently been able to discover quite a lot about. On my maternal side, my German ancestry springs from the Burkhard (Burkhart) line. It appears that when the Burkhards in my tree came to the new world, many of them (or their descendants) settled in (or later moved to) New York, Nebraska, Iowa, and Ohio (though I’ve found them in other states as well). My maternal great-grandfather was Charles Burkhard (b. 1874 in Omaha, Nebraska, d. In 1945 in Dawson City, Yukon) he married (my g-grandmother) Marie Lefebvre (b. 1886 in St. Honore De Shenley, Quebec, d. 1958 in Long Beach, California). My great-grandparents had nine children, the youngest of their kids, Bernice Schill (née Burkhard), is my grandmother (b. 1930 in Dawson City, Yukon). All of the Burkhard children, save for my grandmother have, sadly, passed away at this point. Bernice married my grandfather Arnold Schill (b. 1923, d. 1990) in 1953 and they had three children, including my mother (Lynn Marie Schill) who was born in 1958 in Maple Ridge, British Columbia. (Their other kids are Donald Wayne [d. 1977] and Lori Gail.) I do not having very much to go on regarding Arnold Schill’ family at this point. His parents’ names were Johannes and Maria Schill (I do not know Maria’s maiden name), who used the names “John and Marie” starting at some point after they arrived in Canada in 1930. Sadly my grandfather (Arnold) passed away in 1990, and so my (very limited) knowledge of his family comes from what my grandmother (Bernice) can remember, as well as from a passenger list I found (from a ship called the Montclare, which was part of the Canada Pacific fleet). Bernice believes that my grandfather and his parents (and siblings) were Romanian, and the ship’s log backs this up (as the Schill’s country of origin is listed as Romania). On this voyage the ship departed from Hamburg, Germany and landed in Montreal, Quebec on June 21, 1930. However – and this is purely hypothetical on my part at this point – I cannot help but wonder if at some point the Schill family has roots in Germany, where the surname Schill sometimes appears. This is definitely something that I’m actively trying to find information about. At this time, aside from the names of some of Arnold’s siblings, and his parent’s place of death (both passed away in Pitt Meadows, British Columbia), I do not have any information about this branch of my family. I am very actively investigating the Schill family and hope that I will be able to take that part of my family tree beyond 1923 (the year when my grandfather was born). Some initial things I’ve love to learn are what part of Romania the Schill family was from, what Johannes and Maria’s parents were named (and from there keep building the Schill line further back), when/where John, Maria and their other kids were born, and if in fact, they were of German origin. On my paternal side, I know very little about my Germany relations, but I’ll share what I have discovered so far. My paternal great-grandfather was named Alfred Grams and he was born in Germany (I don’t know whereabouts), but immigrated to Canada as a child. He may have been born in 1920 (I am not certain yet of this) and possibly died in the 1970s (according to my mother, who does not recall meeting Alfred, he died before I was born in ’84). He may have died in Vancouver, British Columbia. (He may have fought, I’m assuming for Canada, in WW2.) I do not know the names of Alfred’s parents (that said, his mother may have been called Lydia, though I’m not sure of this yet), where they were born or anything at all about them. Alfred had siblings, but I do not know their name (save for that one brother may have been called Gustav/Gus). Alfred married my paternal great-grandmother, Mary Walker (about whom I know literally nothing save for her name and approximate year of death, 1995), and together they had three children: Elaine (deceased in the 1990s, was married to Robert [Bob] McCannon, with whom she had two children: Kelly and Jason), Ronald (married a woman named Jeanette [maiden name unknown], had at least two children), and my grandmother, Jean Margaret (b. circa 1942, possibly in Nelson, British Columbia). At some point after their children were born, Alfred and Mary (Walker) divorced. Mary did not remarry, I do not know if Alfred did. Jean (my grandmother) married Loren (sometimes spelled “Lorn”) --- (I know this person’s surname, but for reasons of privacy do not wish to use it online, if you believe you know anything about Jean Grams, please contact me privately and I’d be happy to share Loren’s surname with you). They had four children: Gregory (my father), Debbie (Deborah), Cheryl, and Laurie. At the time my father was born (in 1957) the family was living in Nelson, British Columbia, but shortly thereafter Loren and Jean relocated to the Lower Mainland area of British Columbia. (Note: Loren’s family are of Russian decent and I know exceptionally little about this branch of my family tree; Loren’s mother’s first name was Helen [maiden name unknown], but I do not know his father’s name.) I would greatly love to learn more about the family line of Alfred Grams. At this point in time, the only (and I really do mean “only”) thing I know about his ancestors is that at some point in the 19th century he had a relative named Gottlieb Grams. Regarding the Burkhard family, I’ve been able to discover relatives (via some fantastic genealogy work one of my relatives has carried out) stemming further back than my g-grandfather (Charles Burkhard). I know that his parents were Frank Simon Burkhard and Genevieve Agnes Pischke (her parents were Albert and Victoria [maiden name unknown], and they are as far back as I have information on the Pischke family line). Census records indicate that the Pischke family was of West Prussian ancestry (origin) and lists their mother tongue as being Polish. I would love to find more out about this family, including what their ties to Germany were. Frank Simon Burkhard’s parents (my g-g-g-grandparents) were John (I do not know if this was an anglicised version of Johannes/Johann) Burkhard and Catherine Riedel (parents names unknown). John and Catherine had at least two children: (my g-g-grandfather) Frank Simon (b. 1850 in New York, d. 1910 in Grand Island, Nebraska), and John Burkhard (Jr.) (b. 1844, d. between 1881 – 1900). John married a woman named Cecelia Burkley (b. 1845, d. circa 1920). Cecelia was the daughter of Vincent Burkley and Theresa Stelzer (I do not know more about the Burkley/Stelzer history beyond this, I know the names of John and Cecelia’s kids and many of those peoples’ descendants, though). John and Frank’s parents are thought to be the generation that brought this branch of the Burkhard family tree to America from Germany (possibly circa 1830, after which they settled in Erie Co. New York). I hope very much to one day discover the name of the ship they came over on! John’s father (my g-g-g-g-grandfather) was Simon Burkhard/t (b. circa 1790 in Germany) and his wife was Catherine Zwick. Simon’s father (my g-g-g-g-g-grandfather) was Johann Theobald Burkhard/t (b. circa 1760 in Germany), who was married to Anna Maria Screiner. This past weekend I discovered a RootsWeb document which includes someone named Johann Theobald Burkard/t (who is listed as having a son named Simon) and carries that man’s family line even further back. I am in the process of trying to conclusively (as best as possible) determine if the “Johan Theobald Burkhart” in that document is in fact, the same one in my tree. (Very exciting!) Now before this posts turns into a small book, I will wrap up here. This is my first time ever posting anything online publically about any of my family members (be it in mailing list or elsewhere), and I really am delighted to have found, and be a part of, this group. I look forward to reading your posts and getting to you some of you and your families better! (If anyone reading this can provide further information about any of the people listed above, please do not hesitate to contact me.) Happy genealogical sleuthing to all! 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Hello list, Does anyone know what is going on with the Texas seaport museum? They had an online Immigrant data base is it up yet? Thanks Kerry _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/

Thanks, Karen. In the very beginning, I spent a lot of wasted time and energy trying to unravel all those ancestry.com miss-steps! There's no free lunch, even when you're paying for it. --- On Wed, 3/10/10, onlinetrash <[email protected]> wrote: ...some...aspects about family research to a new person... Karen

Hi, Jessica - Yes, it is sleuthing exactly and yes, it's exciting! Just a cautionary note, though. There's a lot of misinformation that gets circulated and recirculated, especially with the Internet. Sites like ancestry.com try to entice you to accept "info" into your family tree from other members that can really screw things up ("that 1st leaf" as they say in their ads - can be poison ivy!). A lot of the info on familysearch.org comes from church-member submitted data that can be very skewed. I know my mother's was. (The info on the site that comes from source material like microfilmed death certificates, etc is another, more reliable matter.) Always ask where somebody got their information. If they don't reply to your request, they probably don't have a citation. Without citations, it's next to useless. Personal tips: * I know it can be frustrating, but go slowly backward from the known to the unknown, proving each step of the way. Otherwise, you could find yourself on a genealogical trapeze without a net. * Use every scrap of info in a document. The street address on the census could reveal relationships between people (I've been able to establish relationships because people from different eras lived in the same house as it passed around the family). The enumerator (= census taker) could be a relative. The name of a endorser in an old newspaper patent medicine ad could turn out to be your great grandaunt (that really happened to me - I used to think they were all made up). * Every 4-5 months or so, as you learn more and more, go back and re-read documents you haven't looked at in some time. New things will pop out at you and questions you had before will resolve. * 3 x 5 file cards still have a place in your tool kit. They are great for recording info on people you suspect are related, but can't prove yet - they can be rearranged every which way to tease out possible pedigree patterns. Most of all - have fun or what's the point? Julia > My name is Jessica, I’m 25 years old, and I’ve recently begun to delve into my family’s genealogy.