In a message dated 12/27/02 9:19:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, RubyKH@aol.com writes: > I thought this would be of interest to you all ---the online newsletter from > > the National Genealogical Society of Arlington, Virginia, USA. > Do you not have to be a member to receive this? Just checking, Kathy

I thought this would be of interest to you all ---the online newsletter from the National Genealogical Society of Arlington, Virginia, USA. PURPOSE ---------------- UpFront with NGS is designed for members of the National Genealogical Society and the genealogical community. The online newsletter will bring you the latest genealogy news, information about upcoming events and brief articles to help you with your genealogical research. ABOUT UPFRONT WITH NGS --------------------------------------------- --UpFront with NGS is a free genealogy newsletter by e-mail. --UpFront with NGS is a read-only, twice monthly mailing list. --The co-editors of UpFront are happy to receive articles,   comments and suggestions from readers.   Send e-mail to: UpFront@ngsgenealogy.org ABOUT THE NATIONAL GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The National Genealogical Society is dedicated to a mission of education and service to our members and the genealogical community at large. Visit our web site to learn about the NGS Learning Center, the NGS Member Resource Center, popular NGS annual national conferences, just to name a few of our services:    http://www.NGSGenealogy.org HOW TO SUBSCRIBE & UNSUBSCRIBE ------------------------------------------------------------ 1.  Send a NEW e-mail message to:          NGS-L-request@rootsweb.com 2.  To subscribe, type only one word in the body      of the message:          subscribe 3.  To unsubscribe, type only one word in the body      of the message:          unsubscribe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ National Genealogical Society 4527 17th Street North Arlington, Virginia 22207-2399 Phone: (703) 525-0050 or (800) 473-0060 Fax: (703) 525-0052 E-mail: ngs@ngsgenealogy.org http://www.ngsgenealogy.org Membership    http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/member.htm Conferences    http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/conf.htm Learning Center    http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/edu.htm Rooting for the past --Kathie Harrison - List Admin. 19 lists Board Admin. 22 message boards at Rootsweb Thunder is good. Thunder is impressive. But it's the lightning does the work. ~Mark Twain

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I'm searching for information on Anton Mueller. Anton was born in or near Trier (Prussia), Germany and emigrated ca. 1840-42. His known children are Michael Anthony Mueller/Miller (b. 1837, Prussia, d. 1892, St. Paul, MN), Mathew Miller, Hubert Miller, Elizabeth Miller, Barbara Miller, Lucy Miller and Catherine (Kitty) Miller. All children were born in Germany but I have no dates or places for any but Michael Anthony. Michael Anthony Miller, my great grandfather, enlisted in the Union army (Co. A, 9th Regt., Wisconsin infantry) in Sheboygan, Wisconsin on 11 May 1861. He was married to Katherine Stein (b. 1841 in Luxembourg, emigrated 1851 to Sheboygan) There is an Anton Mueller/Miller, listed in the 1860, 1870 and 1880 census, from Springfield, Dane, Wisconsin married to Elisabeth Stupfel. I'm trying to determine if this Anton Mueller/Miller is my great great grandfather. If so, he would have re-married as he has two known children by Elisabeth Stupfel (John Miller, b. 1854 in WI and Maria "Mary" Miller, b. 1850 in WI). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Mark R. Miller mmiller@ebulon.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ebulon

I have just updated the Nebraska Obituary Abstracts site and there are now 94 pages online. <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/neobit-abstracts/index.htm">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/neobit-abstracts/index.htm</A> Also updated are the following: NE-IRISH Surnames & Researchers page: <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/ne-irish-names.htm">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/ne-irish-names.htm</A> GERMANS-WI Surnames & Researchers page: <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/germans-wi-names.htm">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/germans-wi-names.htm</A> GERMANS-NE-IA Surnames & Researchers page: <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/germans-ne-ia-names.htm">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/germans-ne-ia-names.htm</A> These are companion pages to the mail lists. Please visit these other sites. I hope these are helpful to you. Lincoln-Lancaster County Genealogical Society (Nebraska) <A HREF="http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/index.htm">http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/index.htm</A> Denton Community Historical Society (Nebraska) <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/dchs/index.htm">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/dchs/index.htm</A> Lancaster County, NEGenWeb Project <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/lancindex.html">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/lancindex.html</A> ORPHAN-TRAINS-L Mail List Home page <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/orphan-trains-l.htm">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/orphan-trains-l.htm</A> POORHOUSES-L Mail List Home page <A HREF="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/poorhouses-l.htm">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/poorhouses-l.htm</A> Most of all I want to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas! Always digging for my roots, Kathie Thunder is good. Thunder is impressive. But it's the lightning does the work. ~Mark Twain

I live a block from the courthouse in Iron Mountain, which is right on the Wisconsin border. Anyone who was brought to the hospital from the surrounding area and died in Iron Mountain would be listed in the death records there. The death records are in large books and the information has to be transcribed by hand. No death certificates are available. If anyone would like me to do a lookup, you can contact me at rspigarelli@yahoo.com. Ruth --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

In a message dated 12/12/2002 4:14:45 PM Central Standard Time, linwright1@attbi.com writes: > If you think your ancestor might have been an early settler to Wisconsin, I > have a copy of the 1836 Wisconsin Census for the Counties listed below and > would be will to do look-ups This is nice of you to offer but I ask list members to please request these lookups OFF List please. 300 + lists members asking for lookups will only bollux up the list servers. Contact linwright1@attbi.com please privately. Always digging for my roots, Kathie Harrison List Admin GERMANS-WI

The Family History Center also has Word Lists on there website...link is below. The website only contains a portion of what is in the list but they can be ordered for 50 cents. Also has help with letter writing. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/Education/frameset_education.asp?PAG E=education_publications.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: <NelliBlu28@aol.com> To: <GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 2:47 PM Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Common Terms in German Genealogy > Common Terms in German Genealogy > > German English > Alt Old > Alter age > Altest eldest > Am on the > Aufgebote proclamation > Bauer farmer > Beerdigung burial > Bemerkungen remarks > Brautigam bridegroom > Braut bride > Bruder brother > Copulation marriage > Datum date > Dorf village > Ehe marriage > Ehefrau wife > Enkel grandson > Enkelin granddaughter > Eheman husband > Eltern parents > Familie family > Frau madame, wife, woman > Fraulein miss, young lady > Gatte husband > Gattin, Gatten wife > Geboren born > Geborenen formerly (maiden name) > Geburt birth > Gestorben died > Getfauft christened > Heirat marriage > Im in the > Im alter von aged > Jahr year > Kind child > Kinder children > Kirche church > Kirchengemeinde church parish > Kleinkind infant > Knabe boy > Kreis county, district > Land state > Madchen girl, maiden > Madchenname maiden name > Mann husband > Monat month > Mutter mother > Name name > Ort town, place > Pfarramt parish, parish office > Pfarrer pastor > Schein certificate > Schwester sister > Sohn son > Staat state > Stammbaum genealogical tree > Stadt town, city > Stand condition, occupation > Standesamt registers office > Starb died > Starb Kinderlos died without issue > Sterb death > Tag day > Tauf christening > Taufen christen > Taufpaten Godparent > Tochter daughter > Tod death > Trau marriage > Trauen marry > Vater father > Verbergen bury > Veheiratet married > Verstorbenen deceased > Vorname given name > Witwe widow > Witwer widower > Wohnen live, reside > Wohnhaft resident > Wohnort dwelling place > Zeuge witness > Zuegen witnesses > Zurname surname > -------- > > Common Abbreviations in German Genealogy > > German English > err(errechnet) approximated > geb.(geboren) born > get.(getauft) christened > gest.(gestorben) died > verh.(verheirated) married > s.v.(sohn von) son of > u.d.(und der) and the > d.j.(derjunere) the younger > d.a.(deralte) the older > t.v.(tochter von) daughter of > wwer.(witwer) widower > wwe.(witwe) widow > Kath.(Katholisch) Catholic > Ev.(Evangelisch) Evangelical > Luth.(Lutheranisch) Lutheran > Bez.(Bezirke) district > K.B.(Kirchenbuch) church book > Kr.(kreis) county, district > > > > Rooting in the past, Kathie > Think left and think right and think low and think high. Oh, the thinks you > can think up if only you try! ~Dr. Seuss > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > To contact the List administrator, e-mail Kathie Harrison at: > GERMANS-WI-admin@rootsweb.com > >

In reply to Maries reply to Bob Virchs message; I have found a very simple one button program for PRINT SCREEN, go to www.americansys.com and enjoy. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie Rosplock" <favorite_mil@yahoo.com> To: <GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 9:26 PM Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Re: GERMANS-WI-D Digest V02 #80 > > In reply to: "Bob Vircks" > To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Wisconsin Death Records HOW TO > > Bob wrote: "I was successful in accessing the Wisconsin State Death Records suggested by Robert Lipprandt. I went to: > > http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/wi/_vitals/wideathm.htm > > and clicked on all the links for instructions and read them all and didn't > understand. By the way I was unable to print the page. I had to hand copy the information. > Bob Vircks" > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob, I followed the suggested directions and since I could not print the information - I did a Screen print, opened a Windows screen and pasted the info in a Windows document - then printed it. Very simple to do. > > There is a key on your keyboard's top row entitled "Print Scrn SysRq" - simply highlight the portion of the info you want to print, hit the PrintScrnSysRq key, open a Windows document, do a CTL V and you paste the info you just copied into a new Windows document, which you can manipulate as to Font, etc., and print your new document. > > Marie > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > To contact the List administrator, e-mail Kathie Harrison at: > GERMANS-WI-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: East & West Prussia Gazetteer Date: 12/9/2002 9:10:51 AM Central Standard Time From: rloss@bellsouth.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) The following is a link to East and West Prussia (as in provinces of) that gives you an idea of the churches in each village or the district churches (Kreises) that records were kept. Note please!!!, this is only for the provinces of East and West Prussia, not Prussia as a territory. Obviously, East and West Prussia no longer exist and supposedly the records (some) were moved ahead of the advancing Red Army in WW2. The final repository is suppose to be in Berlin but at this time, I do not have the address. Another link included for the University of Wisconsin- Madison Library for the download of the Ravenstein Atlas (excellent because you can enter the name of a village or city) and come up with a graph indicator of where your place of research is located (if you are not sure). If you download the map to photopaper, you can have an excellent source for your particular "search". The map/atlas (Ravenstein) is for the whole of Prussia/Germany as it was in about 1871. Regards, Robert Lipprandt http://www.horlacher.org/germany/ewpruss/ Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

In einer eMail vom 08.12.2002 19:01:01 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com: > > I am looking for a location of a town in Germany listed on a birth > certificate. The name looks like B__eusen Lenora, might this name be Preussen, the name of the state (and country) where Berlin is part of? Rose in germany

Gavin, I'm sorry it took a few days to get back to your inquiry. I lost a brother to catastrophic illness Dec. 5th and funeral arrangements have taken time and energy. Our Schmitt line (both Schmidt and Schmitt before 1700) comes from the Odenwald area of North Baden, once part of the "Palatinate", capital Heidelberg. The main village is Muelben, now incorporated into the "community" of small villages in the area and known as "Waldbrunn". The parish jurisdiction was (and remains) both the Catholic and Lutheran churches in the main village, Struempfelbrunn. Lines of these Schmitts seem to originate in Scheidenthal (near Schlossau) and Schollbrunn (near Mosbach). I have other Schmidt ancestral lines (there are five all together), one in Muensingen, Canton Bern, Switzerland (Schmitt is the most numerous surname in that country), another in the present Saarland (near the capital, Saarbruecken). So it's not really easy to answer your questions. I have several collateral lines of Schmidt, Schmitt relations as well, one from the Homburg/Saar area, others from the "Sickingen lands" (former baronetcies now part of Rheinland-Pfalz state near Landstuhl and Kaiserslautern. There are also a number of Schmitt connections from my Grandmother's family in the Daun area of the Eifel district (north of the Mosel river between Koblenz and Trier. Where does you Schmitt family originate? I have come to the conclusion after many years of family "research" that everyone of German extraction is related to one Schmitt or another! This certainly makes for a vast extended family, but none the less interesting. It is so much more of a challenge to research a common name like mine than a less "popular" one. Let me hear from you. Best wishes, Joe in Oakland CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Schmitt" <gavin6942@yahoo.com> To: <GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:45 PM Subject: [GERMANS-WI] For Joe Schmitt > Joe: > > Just curious about your Schmitt line. > > You can contact me directly at gavin6942@yahoo.com > > Thanks! > > Gavin Schmitt > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > Just a reminder Listers and Newbies, > > When "Replying" to a message, delete all except the most pertinent parts of the original message. It reduces the size of the mail and eliminates unnecessary re-reading of an already posted message. > >

In reply to: "Bob Vircks" To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Wisconsin Death Records HOW TO Bob wrote: "I was successful in accessing the Wisconsin State Death Records suggested by Robert Lipprandt. I went to: http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/wi/_vitals/wideathm.htm and clicked on all the links for instructions and read them all and didn't understand. By the way I was unable to print the page. I had to hand copy the information. Bob Vircks" -------------------------------------------------------------- Bob, I followed the suggested directions and since I could not print the information - I did a Screen print, opened a Windows screen and pasted the info in a Windows document - then printed it. Very simple to do. There is a key on your keyboard's top row entitled "Print Scrn SysRq" - simply highlight the portion of the info you want to print, hit the PrintScrnSysRq key, open a Windows document, do a CTL V and you paste the info you just copied into a new Windows document, which you can manipulate as to Font, etc., and print your new document. Marie --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

--- GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > From: "Joan Keller" <kellerfam@discover-net.net> > probably West Allis...?? > > jk > > From: "Bob Vircks" <bobvircks@wwdb.org> > I would also vote for West Allis, my hometown. > > Bob > Thank you, Joan and Bob. West Allis it is. At ssdi.rootsweb.com the last residence is stated as "53227 (Milwaukee, Milwaukee, WI)". I was going to ask if West Allis fell under that zip, but I found the URL for the postal service which told me it does. Margaret __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

I am looking for a location of a town in Germany listed on a birth certificate. The name looks like B__eusen, Germany. Supposedly the family was said to be from Berlin, and I am wondering if there is a town near Berlin with a spelling close to this. The B could be a "P" but looks more like a "B". Lenora from Wis. Researching: Weber, Hengel, Kirsch, Duckgeischel, Boffer, Bergerson - Burg-Kelley, Hayburn, Rosar, Dippre - Sturdevant, Grim, Dean, Cloud, Ritter - - Mulock, Raynor, Curry, Pochowski, Szewczychowski, McMahon, Hart, Burnworth - Wick

A big Thank you to everyone who has responded to my question about the Washington state Deaths website. Gloria Schroeder Fond du Lac, WI

Here is a site with links to the state deaths plus other things. Wisconsin links are also in there plus Oregon. http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/deathrecords.html

FORWARDED BY LIST ADMIN. >>Subj: Re: [GERMANS-WI] Washington Deaths Date: 12/7/2002 7:55:09 PM Central Standard Time From: leopat@iland.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) If you use ancestry.com you'll find some WA deaths and some WA births along with many other helpful data bases. Also, at USGenWeb.com, go to OR or WA sites to find more info. ----- Original Message ----- From: Schroeder To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Washington Deaths Hello Robert, If you have the web address for the Washington state Deaths, would you send it to me, please? Thanks, Gloria Schroeder gschroeder@charter.net<< Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

Hello Robert, If you have the web address for the Washington state Deaths, would you send it to me, please? Thanks, Gloria Schroeder gschroeder@charter.net I didn't say it was easy!...........just a little amazed that this (other than some local counties) was posted as a searchable item for us. By the way, Oregon and Washington also have the same type search procedure.....I believe from the same company. Regards, Robert Lipprandt

> Does anyone have any idea what city "Weal" in Milwaukee county is > suppose to represent? > Margaret, I would also vote for West Allis, my hometown. Bob