I am researching the surnames of REMMEL, SCHMALZ AND ODERMANN. Not sure where in Germany they came from. Also not sure where to begin to start looking. Any help would be appreciated. Cindy (Remmel) DeWitt Diggn4mykin@aol.com

From my own family research, the Evangelical Church began in Germany and at one time had the largest membership. These same family groups, after immigrating to America joined the Evangelical Reformed Churches (today, mostly United Church of Christ). Also in America, many Evangelical congregations and Lutheran congregations shared the same church buildings while their own were being constructed. Although I am not an expert on this, it seems that after the reformation, came the Lutheran Church in Germany, then some that thought the Lutheran Church was still too close to being Catholic and formed the Evangelical Church. From what I gather, all three had child baptism. Then, the Ana-Baptists (Mennonites) broke from the Evangelicals (believed in adult baptism after they committed to serving Jesus in their lives). If anyone out there is sharper on this subject, please step in. The Prussians (before Germany became official in 1871) established four major official religions (to end the 30 years war) and they were (in membership numbers) Evangelical, Lutheran, Catholic and Mennonite. Regards, Robert Lipprandt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Reformed Church > In several early family obits, the church service is listed as being held in the "Reformed Church". A cousin remembers being told that many Germans found their way into this "Reformed Church". Does anyone know anything about what this church group would be - perhaps a reformed Lutheran church - but "reformed" from what? > > Thanks for any help? > > Vickie > >

Looking for info on the FUHRMANN line in WI. Paul Albert Samual FUHRMAN b. 2 Oct 1881 in Milwaukee d. 7-1909 in Wausau, WI. married Christina Louise POSTLER b. 22 Mar 1883 in Shawano Co, WI Children Herbert, Ella, Adeline, Edward and Raymond. Paul's father was Johann Paul Wilhelm Fuhrman b. 6 May 1852 in Kirchhayn, Washington Co, WI died 13 Mar 1932 in Birnamwood, WI married Maria Bertha DIESTLER b 14 Apr 1853 in Trenton twsp, Washington Co children Helen, Dora, Paul and Martha Amalie. Johann's father was GOTTLIEB SAMUAL FURHMAN b. 24 Jan 1819 in Obornik, Posen, Prussia married Friderike Louise Henrietta HECKENDORF b. 6 Feb 1826 in Swantuss, Kries Usedom, Pommern children Maria, Johann, Elizabeth, Julius, Hulda, Franz and Gustavus. Looking for information on this line. Thank you, Bonnie Haugen

I just got two great website links for Hessen and Pomerania from this site. Does anybody know of a good Westphalia Genealogy research site? Most of my ancestors seem to have been from Nord-Rhein Westphalia. Alice Harman Digging for Roots in the Haarmann Garden aharman@willamette.edu

Hi Marnie, I can't help with the other counties, but to get a death certificate from Milwaukee County, the address is: Milwaukee County Courthouse Vital Records Room 103, 901 N. 9th St. Milwaukee, Wi 53233 They want a money order for $7.00 for each death certificate. The lady told me they will search three years if you don't have the exact date. I sent along a stamped self addressed envelope. Don't know if it is required, but it makes things a little easier for them. Good luck, friends, karen

Where do I write for death certificates for Antigo (Langlade) and Milwaukee?

http://my.execpc.com/~pommern/ -----Original Message----- From: Alice Harman [mailto:aharman@willamette.edu] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 7:43 PM To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GERMANS-WI] got the death cert finally! Neal -- can you provide the website link? Alice Harman Digging for Roots in the Haarmann Garden aharman@willamette.edu Neal W. Degner wrote: > If you know the names of your of you g.grandmother's parents or at > least the > last names, don't forget to check the Pommersche Verein Freistadt > website. > Then are a great amount of names in the database. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Schrade [mailto:kschrade@concentric.net] > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:05 AM > To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GERMANS-WI] got the death cert finally! > > > Hi all, I now have in my hands a copy of my g grandfather's death > cert. > yay! I sent to madison for it last september and after six months i > got a > notice that they couldn't find it. I called the milwaukee register of > deeds > at the suggestion of people from this list and they said, 'if madison > doesn't have it, we don't have it'. I whined and begged and the nice > lady > checked. She came back on the phone about two minutes later and gave > me the > volume and page number. Yay! So, now I have it. > > It did tell me some things i didn't know before, like my g > grandfather's > birth date, fathers name, and cause of death. The one thing that has > me > going a little crazy is his place of birth. Everything i find just > says 'germany'. I have the death cert, his dec of intent, and i found > him in 'germans to america'. Nowhere does it give me any more info. > > Now, to my question...if the dec of intent just says germany is it > likely > that the second papers would be more specific or would that just be a > waste > of time and effort? The 1930 census for my grandparents says that my > grandmother's father 'was born in Hesse and spoke German'. I don't > think i > can trust that, though, since it also says that her mother was born in > wisconsin and she was actually born in Pomern and came to wisconsin > when > she was an infant. > > Any suggestions as to where I might find more definite info about his > birth > place would be appreciated. Thanks, friends, Karen > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from LIST mode. > Send a message to GERMANS-WI-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE > and no > additional text. > --- > How to unsubscribe from DIGEST mode. > Send a message to GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE > and no > additional text. > > > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > Please remember that Message Board posts are gatewayed to this list > and you need to reply on the board by using the URL provided in the > message. This way your reply will be seen by the original poster and > the list at the same time. ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== The GERMANS-WI-L Mail List Home Page is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/germans-wi-l.htm

Neal -- can you provide the website link? Alice Harman Digging for Roots in the Haarmann Garden aharman@willamette.edu Neal W. Degner wrote: > If you know the names of your of you g.grandmother's parents or at > least the > last names, don't forget to check the Pommersche Verein Freistadt > website. > Then are a great amount of names in the database. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen Schrade [mailto:kschrade@concentric.net] > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:05 AM > To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GERMANS-WI] got the death cert finally! > > > Hi all, I now have in my hands a copy of my g grandfather's death > cert. > yay! I sent to madison for it last september and after six months i > got a > notice that they couldn't find it. I called the milwaukee register of > deeds > at the suggestion of people from this list and they said, 'if madison > doesn't have it, we don't have it'. I whined and begged and the nice > lady > checked. She came back on the phone about two minutes later and gave > me the > volume and page number. Yay! So, now I have it. > > It did tell me some things i didn't know before, like my g > grandfather's > birth date, fathers name, and cause of death. The one thing that has > me > going a little crazy is his place of birth. Everything i find just > says 'germany'. I have the death cert, his dec of intent, and i found > him in 'germans to america'. Nowhere does it give me any more info. > > Now, to my question...if the dec of intent just says germany is it > likely > that the second papers would be more specific or would that just be a > waste > of time and effort? The 1930 census for my grandparents says that my > grandmother's father 'was born in Hesse and spoke German'. I don't > think i > can trust that, though, since it also says that her mother was born in > wisconsin and she was actually born in Pomern and came to wisconsin > when > she was an infant. > > Any suggestions as to where I might find more definite info about his > birth > place would be appreciated. Thanks, friends, Karen > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from LIST mode. > Send a message to GERMANS-WI-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE > and no > additional text. > --- > How to unsubscribe from DIGEST mode. > Send a message to GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE > and no > additional text. > > > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > Please remember that Message Board posts are gatewayed to this list > and you need to reply on the board by using the URL provided in the > message. This way your reply will be seen by the original poster and > the list at the same time.

Hi all, I now have in my hands a copy of my g grandfather's death cert. yay! I sent to madison for it last september and after six months i got a notice that they couldn't find it. I called the milwaukee register of deeds at the suggestion of people from this list and they said, 'if madison doesn't have it, we don't have it'. I whined and begged and the nice lady checked. She came back on the phone about two minutes later and gave me the volume and page number. Yay! So, now I have it. It did tell me some things i didn't know before, like my g grandfather's birth date, fathers name, and cause of death. The one thing that has me going a little crazy is his place of birth. Everything i find just says 'germany'. I have the death cert, his dec of intent, and i found him in 'germans to america'. Nowhere does it give me any more info. Now, to my question...if the dec of intent just says germany is it likely that the second papers would be more specific or would that just be a waste of time and effort? The 1930 census for my grandparents says that my grandmother's father 'was born in Hesse and spoke German'. I don't think i can trust that, though, since it also says that her mother was born in wisconsin and she was actually born in Pomern and came to wisconsin when she was an infant. Any suggestions as to where I might find more definite info about his birth place would be appreciated. Thanks, friends, Karen

Depending on when your grandfather was born, and whether he became a citizen, you might check the "enemy alien" registrations, naturalization records, and/or WWI draft registrations. The NARA site has the naturalization and enemy alien records; the LDS has draft registrations; I found WWI draft registrations in the usgenweb site for the county in Idaho that I was looking for; maybe your Wisconsin counties will also have something; http://userdb.rootsweb.com/naturalization/?sourceid=00306601885877606251&key =Uhttp%3A%2F%2Fuserdb%2Erootsweb%2Ecom%2Fnaturalization%2F&rc=locale%7E&us=0 http://www.archives.gov/aad/ Alice Harman Digging for Roots in the Haarmann Garden aharman@willamette.edu *** Looking for DONSBACH *** of any spelling in Wisconsin and Illinois Karen Schrade wrote: > Hi all, I now have in my hands a copy of my g grandfather's death > cert. > yay! I sent to madison for it last september and after six months i > got a > notice that they couldn't find it. I called the milwaukee register of > deeds > at the suggestion of people from this list and they said, 'if madison > doesn't have it, we don't have it'. I whined and begged and the nice > lady > checked. She came back on the phone about two minutes later and gave > me the > volume and page number. Yay! So, now I have it. > > It did tell me some things i didn't know before, like my g > grandfather's > birth date, fathers name, and cause of death. The one thing that has > me > going a little crazy is his place of birth. Everything i find just > says 'germany'. I have the death cert, his dec of intent, and i found > him in 'germans to america'. Nowhere does it give me any more info. > > Now, to my question...if the dec of intent just says germany is it > likely > that the second papers would be more specific or would that just be a > waste > of time and effort? The 1930 census for my grandparents says that my > grandmother's father 'was born in Hesse and spoke German'. I don't > think i > can trust that, though, since it also says that her mother was born in > wisconsin and she was actually born in Pomern and came to wisconsin > when > she was an infant. > > Any suggestions as to where I might find more definite info about his > birth > place would be appreciated. Thanks, friends, Karen > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from LIST mode. > Send a message to GERMANS-WI-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE > and no additional text. --- > How to unsubscribe from DIGEST mode. > Send a message to GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE > and no additional text.

If you know the names of your of you g.grandmother's parents or at least the last names, don't forget to check the Pommersche Verein Freistadt website. Then are a great amount of names in the database. -----Original Message----- From: Karen Schrade [mailto:kschrade@concentric.net] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:05 AM To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANS-WI] got the death cert finally! Hi all, I now have in my hands a copy of my g grandfather's death cert. yay! I sent to madison for it last september and after six months i got a notice that they couldn't find it. I called the milwaukee register of deeds at the suggestion of people from this list and they said, 'if madison doesn't have it, we don't have it'. I whined and begged and the nice lady checked. She came back on the phone about two minutes later and gave me the volume and page number. Yay! So, now I have it. It did tell me some things i didn't know before, like my g grandfather's birth date, fathers name, and cause of death. The one thing that has me going a little crazy is his place of birth. Everything i find just says 'germany'. I have the death cert, his dec of intent, and i found him in 'germans to america'. Nowhere does it give me any more info. Now, to my question...if the dec of intent just says germany is it likely that the second papers would be more specific or would that just be a waste of time and effort? The 1930 census for my grandparents says that my grandmother's father 'was born in Hesse and spoke German'. I don't think i can trust that, though, since it also says that her mother was born in wisconsin and she was actually born in Pomern and came to wisconsin when she was an infant. Any suggestions as to where I might find more definite info about his birth place would be appreciated. Thanks, friends, Karen ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== How to unsubscribe from LIST mode. Send a message to GERMANS-WI-L-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE and no additional text. --- How to unsubscribe from DIGEST mode. Send a message to GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE and no additional text.

>I checked the Tomah news and found an obit of Dr.William Fasbender who I have known for years and worked on my teeth. I was born and raised in Prescott, WI Cannot see any connection between the Doc. and Tomah? Prescott also and Pierce County also have papers on line. buzz from Mesa, AZ

Just to some information The Tomah Journal Newpaper in Tomah, Monroe County, Wisconsin in now online. www.Tomahjournal.com good luck hunting __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com

I am looking for immigrants to Wisconsin, Walworth Co. The family name is Brevlow, or Drevlow. One daughter Johanna Augusta (born abt 1846 in Prussia) is married to August Belk (born abt 1842 Prussia) I haven't been able to find information on these families. Any help is appreciated. Joyce

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: Re: [GERMANS-WI] Reformed Church Date: 4/16/2003 1:32:58 PM Central Daylight Time From: Gartzr@aol.com To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) It is my understanding that many Germans joined the Reformed Church because they felt that the Lutheran Church was still too close to Roman Catholic teachings and liturgy. They felt that they were "reforming" teachings such as the use of collects, Introits, Seasonal Gospel & Epistle readings plus a lot of the Theology of the Roman Catholic Church and The Lutheran Church. Bob of Brookfield<<

In the town where I grew up (Clinton, Rock Co), there was a Dutch Reformed Church. I don't know what they "reformed" either, but perhaps the Reformed Church was just a shorter way to say Dutch Reformed Church. Just my unofficial 2 cents. Lynne Vickie Epson wrote: > In several early family obits, the church service is listed as being held in the "Reformed Church". A cousin remembers being told that many Germans found their way into this "Reformed Church". Does anyone know anything about what this church group would be - perhaps a reformed Lutheran church - but "reformed" from what? > > Thanks for any help? > > Vickie > > > -- Lynne (Outhouse) Bliss President - Outhouse Family Historical Society

In several early family obits, the church service is listed as being held in the "Reformed Church". A cousin remembers being told that many Germans found their way into this "Reformed Church". Does anyone know anything about what this church group would be - perhaps a reformed Lutheran church - but "reformed" from what? Thanks for any help? Vickie

FORWARDED BY LIST ADMIN. >>Subj:HOST, WESTRICH, KOHN, WEINHEIMER Date: 4/15/2003 9:14:28 AM Central Daylight Time From: schuh@att.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) I am researching the ancestors and descendants of Joseph HOST and Anna Maria WESTRICH. They were both German immigrants. In 1840, they moved to Walworth County, Wisconsin, where they were among the early pioneers in that area. They were parents to 10 children: Josephine, Augustus, Andrew, Julius, Phillip, Joseph, Anthony, Edward, Nicholas and John. Joseph and Anna Maria are both brick walls for me as I don't know their towns of birth. Joseph was born in Darmstadt and Anna Maria was born in Bavaria. In addition, I am researching the ancestors and descendants of John KOHN and Marie WEINHEIMER. John KOHN was born February 2, 1835 in Rhine-Hessen, Hessen-Darmstadt, Germany. Marie WEINHIMER was born September 28, 1840 in Vallertheim, Hessen-Darmstadt, Germany. Their children were Phillip, John, Lawrence, Minnie, Emma, Matilda, and Frank. They were married in 1863. They moved to Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, in 1880 and spent the rest of their lives there. John KOHN died in 1913 and Marie WEINHEIMER died in 1912. I would love to exchange information with anyone else reseraching these families.<< --- Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com

Please you would please send me an address of someone that is from my Hilker line so that I might contact them. Contact me off line. Marcie Spud-z@cbpu.com

Dear Marcie, I've been in contact with others who are from your line. At this time, I don't know the connection but I'm pretty sure there is one back in Germany. The town that your Hilker line came from is close to where my Hilker line is from. Once we know more about the Hilker family in Germany, we should know the connection. Carol