Sorry -- that line last should read, "Who can help me?" Lynne Lynne Bliss wrote: >> Translation: My comments are in brackets. > > > The family name "Backemeier" probably originates from the land district > [Landkreis, so this would similar to a county or state] "Schaumburg > Lippe." Region: Frille in Westphalia [damaligen means "of that time" so > Frille was in the region known as Westphalia at that time, but is > something else now]. I am not 100 percent sure. Perhaps there is other > data from this time. My father, Karl-Heinz was born in 1935. My > grandfather, Heinrich was born ??. All other ancestors names are > unfortunately unknown. The only thing I'm sure of is that they originate > in Frille. Can you help me? > >> > Familiennamen >> > "Backemeier" stammen wahrscheinlich aus dem Landkreis >> > "Schaumburg >> > Lippe" Ort: Frille im damaligen Westfalen. Bin mir aber auch >> > nicht zu 100 % sicher. Vielleicht gibt es irgendwelche Angaben >> > aus dieser Zeit. Mein Vater:"Karl-Heinz" geb. 1935, mein >> > Großvater: Heinrich geb. ? alle anderen Vorfahren sind leider >> > nicht namentlich bekannt. Sicher ist wahrscheinlich nur, dass >> > sie >> > aus Frille stammen. Wer kann mir helfen? >> > >> > > Hope that helps, > Lynne > -- Lynne (Outhouse) Bliss President - Outhouse Family Historical Society Searching Outhouse, Henika, Gunnison, Wenham, Burnham, Torrey, Stelter, Ferge/Ferch Seeking descendants of Elizabeth Fones Winthrop Feake; Hugh Gunnison; Lt. Samuel Torrey

Thank you Kathy, We are not sure why he contacted the Dawson County coordinator but I have asked her to contact him and ask him why he posted his query there since he made no mention of the county or state. I doubt we will post his query but we wanted to first be able to understand what he was saying in his message. Thanks so much for the quick reply! lenerz@worldnet.att.net wrote: > The family name Backemeier apparently originates in the Landkreis > Schaumburg Lippe, place: Frille, in what was then Westphalia. But I'm > not 100% sure. Perhaps there is some information from this time. My > father: Karl-Heinz, born 1935; my grandfather: Heinrich, born ? The > names of all other ancestors are unfortunately not known. The only > thing known for sure is that the family originated in Frille. Who can > help me? > > Kathie-- > What's really unclear is why this man is making this inquiry of a > Nebraska list. > Kathy > > Kathie wrote: > >> List members, especially anyone that speaks GERMAN, I need your help. >> One of my fellow NEGenWeb Project county coordinators received a >> query that is completely in GERMAN and we are trying to find out >> exactly what this man is trying to say in his query, Using an online >> translator still does not help much. Here is the message in GERMAN >> and also the translated version which leaves much to be desired. Your >> help will be greatly appreciated! >> >> Thank you!! Kathie Harrison - GERMANS-WI and GERMANS-NE-IA List Admin. >> >> > Familiennamen >> > "Backemeier" stammen wahrscheinlich aus dem Landkreis >> > "Schaumburg >> > Lippe" Ort: Frille im damaligen Westfalen. Bin mir aber auch >> > nicht zu 100 % sicher. Vielleicht gibt es irgendwelche Angaben >> > aus dieser Zeit. Mein Vater:"Karl-Heinz" geb. 1935, mein >> > Großvater: Heinrich geb. ? alle anderen Vorfahren sind leider >> > nicht namentlich bekannt. Sicher ist wahrscheinlich nur, dass >> > sie >> > aus Frille stammen. Wer kann mir helfen? >> > >> > >> > >> > Using online translation: >> > >> > Who can give data possible distorting shank relations? My >> > ancestors, with the surnames "cheek Meier" probably originate >> > from the district "foam castle lip" place: Frille in the >> > Westphalia at that time. Are safe me in addition, not to 100 >> > %. Perhaps there are any data from this time. My Vater:"Karl >> > Heinz "geb. 1935, my grandfather: Heinrich geb.? all other >> > ancestors are not in particular well-known unfortunately. Safe >> > it is probably only that they originate from Frille. Who can >> > help me? > > -- Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/

> Translation: My comments are in brackets. The family name "Backemeier" probably originates from the land district [Landkreis, so this would similar to a county or state] "Schaumburg Lippe." Region: Frille in Westphalia [damaligen means "of that time" so Frille was in the region known as Westphalia at that time, but is something else now]. I am not 100 percent sure. Perhaps there is other data from this time. My father, Karl-Heinz was born in 1935. My grandfather, Heinrich was born ??. All other ancestors names are unfortunately unknown. The only thing I'm sure of is that they originate in Frille. Can you help me? > > Familiennamen > > "Backemeier" stammen wahrscheinlich aus dem Landkreis > > "Schaumburg > > Lippe" Ort: Frille im damaligen Westfalen. Bin mir aber auch > > nicht zu 100 % sicher. Vielleicht gibt es irgendwelche Angaben > > aus dieser Zeit. Mein Vater:"Karl-Heinz" geb. 1935, mein > > Großvater: Heinrich geb. ? alle anderen Vorfahren sind leider > > nicht namentlich bekannt. Sicher ist wahrscheinlich nur, dass > > sie > > aus Frille stammen. Wer kann mir helfen? > > > Hope that helps, Lynne -- Lynne (Outhouse) Bliss President - Outhouse Family Historical Society Searching Outhouse, Henika, Gunnison, Wenham, Burnham, Torrey, Stelter, Ferge/Ferch Seeking descendants of Elizabeth Fones Winthrop Feake; Hugh Gunnison; Lt. Samuel Torrey

List members, especially anyone that speaks GERMAN, I need your help. One of my fellow NEGenWeb Project county coordinators received a query that is completely in GERMAN and we are trying to find out exactly what this man is trying to say in his query, Using an online translator still does not help much. Here is the message in GERMAN and also the translated version which leaves much to be desired. Your help will be greatly appreciated! Thank you!! Kathie Harrison - GERMANS-WI and GERMANS-NE-IA List Admin. > Familiennamen > "Backemeier" stammen wahrscheinlich aus dem Landkreis > "Schaumburg > Lippe" Ort: Frille im damaligen Westfalen. Bin mir aber auch > nicht zu 100 % sicher. Vielleicht gibt es irgendwelche Angaben > aus dieser Zeit. Mein Vater:"Karl-Heinz" geb. 1935, mein > Großvater: Heinrich geb. ? alle anderen Vorfahren sind leider > nicht namentlich bekannt. Sicher ist wahrscheinlich nur, dass > sie > aus Frille stammen. Wer kann mir helfen? > > > > Using online translation: > > Who can give data possible distorting shank relations? My > ancestors, with the surnames "cheek Meier" probably originate > from the district "foam castle lip" place: Frille in the > Westphalia at that time. Are safe me in addition, not to 100 > %. Perhaps there are any data from this time. My Vater:"Karl > Heinz "geb. 1935, my grandfather: Heinrich geb.? all other > ancestors are not in particular well-known unfortunately. Safe > it is probably only that they originate from Frille. Who can > help me?

I likewise believe that my German family settled initially in Fond du Lac Co, WI. The Matthias GERHART/DS/Z family immigrated in 1842 from Ditsfheid, in the Rhein-Pfalz . With Matthias, b. 1801, was wife Maria SCHMITT, son Michel, Eva (maybe Michel's wife) and two other Marias. Already living in Fond du Lac may have been the HAERIG family, relatives of Mathias' mother, from Retterath(near Daun) , Rhein-Pfalz. By the 1860s, this GERHARDS/T/Z family could have gone to Chicago. Anyone know anything about any of these families? Jane in AZ

Mary Beth Thanks for the great site for finding towns. The old variant names are really useful for this type of thing. Grosswangen sounds like a possibility to me too. This list has been great in helping with locating the European location of my ancestors. Janet > Hi Janet, > > I have only recently signed on to this list and have only been reading, so > far. When I saw your email I thought I would use the JewishGen StetlSeeker > to look up the town of Gross Banken and found a whole list that it picked > out. I first thought that Gross Behnkenhagen might be a possibility. Then > further down the list I saw Grosswangen, a little closer sounding to Gross > Banken. You may want to go to this site to check for yourself. It has > helped me in the past with a town that no longer exists. Just go to: > http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker I hope this helps. > > Mary Beth Arthur > Volunteer with Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild

Maybe the Americanization of the surname?? I would assume Goepfert (or Göpfert) sounded very close to the surname Gipford and during naturalization hearings, it was changed?? Just a theory. Regards, Robert Lipprandt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Gipford (Goepfert) > PLEASE. Someone hold the answer to my dead end!! There are three Gipford > families living in Ellsworth WI. on the 1880 census- Wilhelm, Casper and > Charles. However, there is also a Julius Gipford (Goepfert) listed at the > St. Pauls Church in Ell sworth, WI as the father of children baptized in the > 1880's. Does anyone know anything about these families or how they are all > related. Any information on any of these families or this family name is > needed. PLEASE-Someone have the answer/ > Thank You > Wendy from San Antonio. TX > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > Just a reminder Listers and Newbies, > > When "Replying" to a message, delete all except the most pertinent parts of the original message. It reduces the size of the mail and eliminates unnecessary re-reading of an already posted message. >

PLEASE. Someone hold the answer to my dead end!! There are three Gipford families living in Ellsworth WI. on the 1880 census- Wilhelm, Casper and Charles. However, there is also a Julius Gipford (Goepfert) listed at the St. Pauls Church in Ell sworth, WI as the father of children baptized in the 1880's. Does anyone know anything about these families or how they are all related. Any information on any of these families or this family name is needed. PLEASE-Someone have the answer/ Thank You Wendy from San Antonio. TX

Thanks for the great map site. I like the way it provides alternative possibilities for the location. I asked my grandmother where her family came from about 40 years ago when I was young. When I asked her to spell it, she probably gave me a phonetic spelling or it got misspelled through the years. Gross Boden seems to be a close match. I will try to uncover more details and perhaps take you up on your kind offer to help at a later date. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "dayne" <dayne@snet.net> To: "Janet Thatcher" <JanThatcher@charter.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [GERMANS-WI] Breitzmann, Koepp, Rogalsky and Brock Families > try this map site for europe- possibly gross banken (large bank?) is > abbreviated, misspelled, phonetically spelled for one of the options this > map search gives. > > http://mappoint.msn.com/(5gm31yns3usnv02vkkx1gf55)/home.aspx?mapblast=true > > if you have any further details i have a friend i correspond with in germany > who might be able to help u with locating this place > > dayne > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Thatcher" <JanThatcher@charter.net> > To: <GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:58 AM > Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Breitzmann, Koepp, Rogalsky and Brock Families > > > | Family records say that they > | came from Gross Banken, Germany. Does anyone know where this is as I > can't > | find it on modern day maps? > | Janet from California > | >

These are my g-grandparents who emigrated from German speaking countries to Wisconsin. August BREITZMANN (approx 1838-1886) and wife Wilhelmine KOEPP (approx 1859-1890). They lived in Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, WI in 1880. The name was Americanized to Brightsman. I am also looking for a sister Bertha GAULKE who took care of their children for a few years after they died. The second family is Carl F. ROGALSKY (1856-1886) and wife Louise E. BROCK (1862-1910). They immigrated in May 1883. Family records say that they came from Gross Banken, Germany. Does anyone know where this is as I can't find it on modern day maps? They settled in Concord, Jefferson County, WI. I am seeking information on their siblings, ancestors and descendants. Janet from California

Seeking descendants of Mathias Reimer, b. Abt. 1734 in Nordrhein- Westphalen, Germany, married to Elisabetha Braurs (sp?), and with the following known children: - Johannes Reimer b. Apr. 24, 1769 married Maria Hunigons (sp?) - Adam Reimer - William Reimer b. Mar. 16, 1772 - Edmund Reimer b. Oct. 23, 1773 - William Reimer b. May 26, 1776 married Anna Catherina Wagener Johannes Reimer and Maria Hunigons (sp?) had two known children, among them: - Anna Sibilla Reimer b. Oct. 8, 1797 married George Kaiser - Barbara Reimer b. 1801 married Peter J. Orhem The family eventually emigrated to the United States and settled in Wisconsin, though the specific details are not known. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, - Aaron Biterman GenealogyKid20@aol.com

Hi, All! I'm seeking information on one Joseph Frank and Theodore Frank, brothers. Joseph was born in 1809 and Theodore was born on Nov. 8, 1817. The family hailed from the Koblenz area, around Rheinland- Pfalz, in Germany. Theodore Frank married Anna Kelbing in Germany and had two children: Joseph and Anna. Joseph, my ancestor, was born on January 24, 1850. At some point the family emigrated to the U.S. and settled in Washington County, Wisconsin. Joseph Frank (son of Theodore) married Mary Doll in 1875 and had the following known children: - Theodore Julius Frank b. 1876 - Mary Anne Frank m. Louis J. Neu - Joseph Frank - Anna Mary Frank m. Joseph Schmid - Elisabeth Berta Frank m. Robert Reitzner - Theodore Christopher Frank m. Catherine Rohlinger - Joseph Peter Frank m. Susan Gehl - Margaret Frank m. Peter Kolb - Helen Clara Frank m. Oscar Peters - Herman Joseph Frank - Henry Frank - Mathias Robert Frank, b. 1900 Any help on this family line would be most appreciated. Sincerely, - Aaron Biterman

> Any info on him or descendants would be appreciate. > > I am doing this for my sister -in-law. She is a direct descendant of Theodore > who was THEODORE BRUNING name change to BROWN. Lived in NEENAH, WI > owned a Stave Co., married twice....1st: Elizabeth Haber. 2nd: Mary MAGNUS, who > was my Great Grandmother. Their daughter, Grace, was my Grandmother. She married > Russell SHAVER, in WASHINGTON. Their son, Frank Russell SHAVER is her dad. > > Among the info need, emmigration date and place. Also, any info on first family. > > Thank you for your time. > > Mary Lou > On behalf of Mary Ellen SHAVER

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Heitzhausen, Boos, Gobel Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/sSC.2ACIAE/28 Message Board Post: Plattsmouth Journal, Monday, April 17, 1916 Death of Mrs. Heitzhausen. >From Friday’s Daily. The many old time friends of Mrs. Minnie HEITZHAUSEN will be pained to learn of her death which occurred at the home of her grand-daughter, Mrs. G. GOBEL, at Fairbury. Mrs. Heitzhausen was born in Germany, March 4, 1840. She came to America with her parents in 1850 and settled in Wisconsin, where she was married to Deitrich Heitzhausen. Six children were born to them, three of whom survive. They are Edward HEITZHAUSEN and Mrs. G.J. BOOS of Portland, Oregon, and Mrs. Frank FE -[illegible 2 letters]- ER of Omaha. She also leaves seven grandchildren and four great-grandchildren. She was a most patient sufferer and her thoughts were always for those around her. She was confirmed at the age of fourteen in the German Lutheran church in Wisconsin and those who knew her recognized her Christian spirit by her life and deeds. She was a resident of Louisville for many years. The funeral occurred at Omaha, interment being at Forest Lawn cemetery. – Louisville Courier

Carol, you may find these sites informative. I was brought up in the Evangelical United Brethern Church; amusingly it was also Garrison Keillor's denomination. When I was confirmation age, the Brethern united with the Methodists and formed the United Methodists. http://www.huntington.edu/library/ubhc.html http://www.bartleby.com/65/ev/EvangUBC.html CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Maycreek@aol.com> > Hi listers, > As long as we are on this discussion of Churches, does anyone know > anything about the United Brethern Church? My great great grandfather, > William Heiser, was a minister in the United Brethern Church in Nebraska and

Hi listers, As long as we are on this discussion of Churches, does anyone know anything about the United Brethern Church? My great great grandfather, William Heiser, was a minister in the United Brethern Church in Nebraska and Kansas. I know that the services were in German. I don't really know much about this denomination. Carol Pattison

Thank you Roger. Do you by some chance live in Virginia?? Regards, Robert Lipprandt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Hi Robert, > Some of the major German religious movements were: > > 1415 - Hussite > http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07585a.htm > 1517 - Lutheran > http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09438b.htm and > http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09458a.htm > 1518 - Reformed - Ulrich Zwingli > http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15772a.htm > 1523 - Anabaptists Mennonites > http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10190b.htm > 1536 - Calvinist > http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03198a.htm > 1663 - Anabaptists Amish > I believe _most_ reformed german churches in the USA were Reformed Lutheran ones, which makes sense due to Ulrich's fascination with Luther. > > Sincerely, > RogerAwesome Genealogy: German

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: Re: Reformed Church Date: 4/23/2003 3:03:10 PM Central Daylight Time From: awesome_genealogy@yahoo.com To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Hi Robert, Some of the major German religious movements were: 1415 - Hussite http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07585a.htm 1517 - Lutheran http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09438b.htm and http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09458a.htm 1518 - Reformed - Ulrich Zwingli http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15772a.htm 1523 - Anabaptists Mennonites http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10190b.htm 1536 - Calvinist http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03198a.htm 1663 - Anabaptists Amish I believe _most_ reformed german churches in the USA were Reformed Lutheran ones, which makes sense due to Ulrich's fascination with Luther. Sincerely, RogerAwesome Genealogy: German Resourceshttp://www.awesomegenealogy.com/german.shtml GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: From: "Robert Lipprandt" To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Reformed Church >From my own family research, the Evangelical Church began in Germany and at one time had the largest membership.<< Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: Re: German Surnames Date: 4/23/2003 12:34:36 PM Central Daylight Time From: awesome_genealogy@yahoo.com To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Hi Cindy, Do you know when they came to America? This is the first step. To find this you will have to look at census and church records, and try to find an approximate (ideally definite) date of arrival. Depending on the year some census records will also specify where in other countries your ancestors came from. Once you have a date or range of dates, you can search for your family on passenger lists, naturalizations records and the like. I have a directory of sites and databases for this sort of thing here: http://www.awesomegenealogy.com/Genealogy/immigration.shtml If you're lucky and can find the region they came from there are many regional german sites which may help you, as well as various german mailing lists. I have a page for that, along with a number of helpful tips ie translating surnames, occupations, regions in germany etc which can be found here: http://www.awesomegenealogy.com/german.shtml Good luck in your search! Roger Awesome Genealogy http://www.awesomegenealogy.com GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: From: Diggn4mykin@aol.com To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANS-WI] WI - German Surnames I am researching the surnames of REMMEL, SCHMALZ AND ODERMANN. Not sure where in Germany they came from. Also not sure where to begin to start looking. Any help would be appreciated. Cindy (Remmel) DeWitt Diggn4mykin@aol.com<< Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com

Good morning Cindy I have the surname Schmalz (Anna Elisabeth) that married my g-g-g-grandfather Hans Christoph Lipprandt about 1700 in or near the village of Großfahner, Herzogtum Sachsen-Koburg- Gotha. Her birth date was about 1670 (Anna Elisabeth). Herzogtum = Duchy, Sachsen-Koburg-Gotha was a duchy aligned with the province of Sachsen (Saxony). This area was also known as the Thüringen (Thueringen) Territories and today known as Provinz Thüringen. Großfahner is located North of Gotha in present day Thüringen. I don't think Schmalz was that common (but been proven wrong many times!!) so this may open a door for you. Check on Google and you can gather more information of this particular area (Herzogtum Sachsen-Koburg-Gotha). Regards, Robert Lipprandt (South Florida) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Subject: [GERMANS-WI] WI - German Surnames> Schmalz > I am researching the surnames of REMMEL, SCHMALZ AND ODERMANN. Not sure > where in Germany they came from. Also not sure where to begin to start > looking. > Any help would be appreciated. > Cindy (Remmel) DeWitt > Diggn4mykin@aol.com >