Hi all, I think since it has been so very quiet on this 300+ member list that I will share some goodies. I have finally finished transcribing the book "Growing Up With Tulsa" by Blanche Opal Kern Schad---- and though it is not anywhere NEAR Wisconsin, the author, a first cousin of my G-grandpa HARRISON, was married to a GERMAN WISCONSIN man, Erwin SCHAD. I invite you all to take a look at the book and especially the Chapter 12 - Odds & Ends which has some GERMAN family recipes. You may also enjoy Opal's stories as much as I have enjoyed them. This book has been reprinted by permission of Harry Schad, son of the author Blanche Opal Kern Schad. This book was written and self published by Blanche Opal Kern Schad of Tulsa, OK. She was a Harrison descendant and first cousin to my G-grandfather, Herman Harrison who lived in Saunders Co., Nebraska. Opal's mother Emma Justine Harrison and my GG-grandfather Richard Harrison (Cuming Co., NE) were siblings. Emma and her husband Charles Wesley Kern went from Saunders Co., NE to OK Territory in 1893 and settled in Tulsa. Opal & her mother Emma are in the photograph above. This is a story of the family and Opal and her older siblings and later their own families growing up with Tulsa from territorial days to statehood and through 2 World Wars, etc. Opal's son Harry of Tulsa, OK gave me permission to transcribe and put his mother's book online. It is not available, except at the Tulsa library and by Opal's immediate family. Reproduced by Kathie Harrison (Harry's second cousin twice removed). http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/tulsa/index.html http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/tulsa/schad1.html http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/tulsa/odds-ends.htm Remember that you can share GERMAN family recipes on this list or discuss GERMAN family traditions of your GERMAN Wisconsin ancestors. We do allow this along with the genealogy of the GERMAN-WI families. ENJOY! Best regards, Kathie Harrison GERMANS-WI List Admin. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/lists.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

On 8 Jun 2003 at 9:54, alsstamp@netscape.net wrote: > ========= Source: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: > [GERMANS-WI] Naturalization > > > Can anyone tell me what it means on the census under the > "Naturalization" column for it to have the notation "Pa"? > This notatation in on for my great grandfathers in both > Manitowoc and Marathon Counties. I appreciate it. > Hi Florence The 1900, 1910 ,1920 and 1930 census identify citizenship status, with notations showing the individual was an Alien, or had started the Naturalization process or had his final papers. PA means he had started his first papers, so you can now look for those, plus his naturalization records at http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/wisconsin.shtml Be sure to read the intro to Wisconsin Naturalization records, then click on ONLINE records (for a Directory of Links to all online records for WI) then OFFLINE records to get the Resource Guide that explains what is available and where it is. Let the pages load before you start clicking, and be sure to read all the way to the bottom You can read more about the value of census records in your search for an immigrant ancestor at http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/census.shtml There are great clues in the 1870 census too! If your ancestor has a check mark in the column "Male Citizens of the United States of twenty-one years of age and upwards" you have a clue that naturalization took place before 1870 :-) To find out what questions were asked on various census records see http://www.ipums.umn.edu/~pipums/voliii/tQuestions.html Enjoy! Lorine Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/index.shtml NaturalizationRecords.com http://naturalizationrecords.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/sSC.2ACIAE/29 Message Board Post: Looking for Michael Goeppel in Milwaukee WI. Married a Wilhelmena Granz in 1885. First child Maxmillian born 1/4/1886. Moved to Cook County Illinois as remaining sibling were born there. TIA Deborah

Florence, I believe it stands for "papers applied for." That's what I was told after I had spend over a year looking for an ancestor in PA when I first started researching. Susan ....hoping not to always learn things the hard way.

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Can anyone tell me what it means on the census under the "Naturalization" column for it to have the notation "Pa"? This notatation in on for my great grandfathers in both Manitowoc and Marathon Counties. I appreciate it. Florence in North Carolina __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455

FORWARDED BY LIST ADMIN. Subj: Re: [GERMANS-WI] Naturalization Date: 6/8/2003 11:34:40 AM Central Daylight Time From: leopat@iland.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Na - Naturalized (has become a citizen) Pa - Filed papers (apparently is applying for citizenship) Al - Alien - not a citizen The description is in teeny tiny print at the bottom of each census page. ----- Original Message ----- From: <alsstamp@netscape.net> To: <GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Naturalization > Can anyone tell me what it means on the census under the "Naturalization" column for it to have the notation "Pa"?

The Calumet County Reporter began in 1902; ceased in Sept. or Oct., 1919, and has been saved from Sept. 1908 to 1919. It was published in New Holstein, and since that's where you fellow is buried, that is where he was part of the community and most likely to have a good obit. To find WI newspapers, go to the books and serials catalog for the Wisconsin Historical Society--it's in with the UW catalog at: http://madcat.library.wisc.edu/index.html This will tell you what newspapers are on microfilm, plus notes on when they were published. You can search by the name of the city where the paper was published. It is my understanding that about 3/4 of the newspapers ever published in WI in English have been saved and lesser amounts of ethnic language ones. They particularly are likely to have films of whatever was the official paper for the county. If you live in WI, there is currently no charge to get these films on Interlibrary Loan (our tax dollars at work!), but folks from out-of-state pay a fee.

Looking for descendants of Henry Frederick and Catherine PELKE WEDEMEYER. Their children are; Elizabeth b. 1854 Louisiana married to Heinrich William LUTZ 1875 Racine Wi Anna Catherine b & d 1857 Racine John Henry b. 1858 Racine d. 1918 St Louis Mo married to Flora Katherine WAGNER 1879 Hartford Wi Anna Margaret b. 1860 Racine married to Thomas Francis ROWAN 1903 Racine Mary Wilhelmina b.1865 Racine d. 1950, Lived in Chicago with sister Catherine Hebner d. Catherine b. 1867 Racine d.1947 married to John HEBNER 1891 Racine I have additional information but especially need information on the daughters. Thanks Madeleine

Once you've established which newspaper covered that area during that time period you can request that specific microfilmed newspaper through your local libraries inter-library load program if it's been microfilmed. A. Bbartelt ----- Original Message ----- From: <AweCA12962@aol.com> To: <GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Johann "John" AWE obit request > Seeking a full-text obit for my g-g-grandfather, Johann AWE. DOB 3/16/1836? Mecklenburg, Germany. DOD 2/15/1916. Buried in New Holstein Cemetery. After retiring from farming and after his wife died, John lived with his youngest son, Joachim "Joe'" AWE. Joe AWE also farmed and in later years, lived in Kiel. So John AWE's death may have been recorded in Calumet or Manitowoc Counties and an obit may have been published in a newspaper in New Holstein or Kiel or Chilton or another local area. German newspaper, perhaps? Daily paper or weekly paper? Would appreciate any assistance. Thanks! > > Carol AWE > > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > The GERMANS-WI-L SURNAMES & RESEARCHERS Page is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/germans-wi-names.htm >

Seeking a full-text obit for my g-g-grandfather, Johann AWE. DOB 3/16/1836? Mecklenburg, Germany. DOD 2/15/1916. Buried in New Holstein Cemetery. After retiring from farming and after his wife died, John lived with his youngest son, Joachim "Joe'" AWE. Joe AWE also farmed and in later years, lived in Kiel. So John AWE's death may have been recorded in Calumet or Manitowoc Counties and an obit may have been published in a newspaper in New Holstein or Kiel or Chilton or another local area. German newspaper, perhaps? Daily paper or weekly paper? Would appreciate any assistance. Thanks! Carol AWE

I am searching for information on my Greatgrand parents, Martin BORCHARDT and Johannah Dorothea Wilhemina GILDEMEISTER from GREIFENBERG, GERMANY. They settles in ROME, JEFFERSON COUNTY, WI abt. 1865. Martin died 1883 and Johannah 1924. Johannah remarried to Carl Moots in 1886. Martin and Johannah had ten (10) children, two (2) of which died in Germany. The following children all born to them in WI: Charles BORCHARDT Amiela BORCHARDT Anne BORCHARDT Fredeckei BORCHARDT William BORCHARDT Herman BORCHARDT Augusta Johannah W. BORCHARDT, b. 1872, d. 1941, m. Marcus NICHOLS who d. 1924 Children of Augusta & Marcus were: Richard William NICHOLS, b. 1890 WI, d. 1914 MT, m. Florence WATERS Johannah Henrietta NICHOLS, b. 1894 WI, d. 1923 IL, m. Clarence ROSS Anna Lydia NICHOLS, b. 1896 WI, d. 1962 WI, m. Peter MENGSOL Marcus Charles NICHOLS, b. 1898 WI, d. 1945 WI Arthur Albert NICHOLS, b. 1899 WI, d. 1977 WI, m. Augusta KATZHER Clara Hilda NICHOLS, b. 1902 WI, d. 1996 CA, m. Arthur A. PYLE (my parents) John Alvan NICHOLS, b. 1905 WI, d. 1981 CA, m. Dorthy UNKNOWN Fred NICHOLS, b. 1907 WI, d. 1970 CA Henry Lyle NICHOLS, b. 1910 WI Harold Harvey NICHOLS, b. 1914 WI, d. 1944 ENGLAND (never married) Norman Herman NICHOLS, b. 1913 WI, d. 1999 WI (never married) Earl NICHOLS, b. 1916 WI, d. 1978 CA Any information on any of the BORCHARDTS or NICHOLS would be greatly appreciated. Joyce Ross - e-mail: Chaddaross:aol.com

I am searching for information about my great grandparents. They are Wilhelm ROTHBARTH born in Trent? Germany in 1858 and came to Menomonie, Dunn County, Wisconsin in 1882. He died in 1928. Married Wilhelmina (Mina) ASMUS, daughter of Fritz (Frederick) , born 1815 in Baden ? Germany and Maria ASMUS, born in 1825 in Germany. Wilhelmina came to Dunn County with her parents and an older brother, William. Wilhelm and Wilhelmina were married in 1883 and had the following children: Frank, Hattie, Lena, Sadie, William, Alma and Walter. Hattie married Warren CRAMBLETT, Sadie married Loyd BOOKS, Lena married Oscar Peter NELSON, and Alma married Chester BOOKS. Most of the ASMUS family and one of the ROTHBARTH's moved to Minnesota. I am especially interested in information about Lena ROTHBARTH NELSON. She died giving birth to her third child in 1922 and I would like to find out more about her children. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you Sandra

Forwarded by List Admin. Subj: [GERMANS-WI] German War Deaths Date: 5/27/2003 3:12:59 PM Central Daylight Time From: rloss@bellsouth.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Just another search area for those of you that are looking for German solder/sailor/luftwafe war deaths. http://www.volksbund.de/ But first.........the site is in German so you should have some ability to read the basic German..........again, the site is not in English!!! At times, a popup will appear and ask for your basic information (mailing address and who you are looking for).......if you fudge a bit, you can get through this as it is a solicitation of funds to run the site and program......again, you have to have a basic knowledge of German. The site does not have all deaths, they are working on providing more information. Some information is sketchy (first and last names only), but if you hit the motherload, you will get first and last names, rank, place of birth, place of death and burial cemetery. Some of the information is from WW1, mostly from WW2. There are sites for American, English, Canadian war deaths but you have to go to Google to find the site address. http://www.google.com Regards, Robert Lipprandt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Schild/Manuel, Grant County, WI > SCHILD, Ernest/Ernst born Baut, Germany 1905, Possibly returned to Germany > to fight for Hitler.

SCHILD, Ernest/Ernst born Baut, Germany 1905, Possibly returned to Germany to fight for Hitler. MANUEL, Ethel Pauline Marie born Dec. 30, 1904, Platteville, Grant County, WI Collateral Names: BARGMANN WOMACK KUNLAND TREGOWETH WIESMAN MEYERS/DEMEYER Glenda Meyers gsmeyers1@mchsi.com -----Original Message----- From: Kathie [mailto:nelliblurose@netscape.net] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 7:03 PM To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Let's Hear from the List Members! * From List Admin. Dear List Members, since the list has been quiet, how about each of you posting your queries on your WISCONSIN GERMAN lines. REMEMBER the more details you give the more likely you are to make a connection! DO NOT PUT ROLL CALL IN YOUR SUBJECT LINES! NAME-DATE-PLACE ONLY IN SUBJECT LINES PLEASE! CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE TO REFLECT YOUR OWN MESSAGE. Please follow these steps for a good query: 1. SURNAME in CAPITAL letters. Full name of ancestors and spouse. Dates of births, marriages, deaths if known. 2. TIME FRAME: ie: 1830-1900 3.COUNTY or TOWN 4. COLLATERAL SURNAMES connected to your WISCONSIN GERMAN lines, also in CAPITAL letters. 5. SHARE a story or obits, wills or other data on your WISCONSIN GERMAN lines if you have them! DON'T BE SHY! Tell us your brick walls, success stories or a family tale related to your GERMAN lines. Share a GERMAN family recipe! Share your GERMAN Heritage! REMINDER: No Forwarding of mail from other lists is permitted without the permission of the author and if it is off-topic for this list it must be first cleared with me as the list administrator to decide if the message may be posted to the list. Keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgment. Quoting the previous writer's signature block or surname list is totally unnecessary. Please refer to the list home page if you have a question regarding list rules. Thank you, Kathie Harrison GERMANS-WI List Admin. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/lists.htm ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== Just a reminder Listers and Newbies, When "Replying" to a message, delete all except the most pertinent parts of the original message. It reduces the size of the mail and eliminates unnecessary re-reading of an already posted message.

To the person asking about records of St Francis Catholic Church: The Mormon FHL in Hales Corners has almost all of the Milwaukee Archdiocse films in its films on permanent loan. You would not have to order them and wait for them to come in. Their collection of films on anything related to Wisconsin is excellent! i.e. Wisc census, Milw city directories, Protestant churches, cemetery records for Milw. and much more. Betty Fredrich Krummel

Looking for info on Mathias LAUTERBACH from Koblenz Germany and Wife, Luciae METERNICH and their children who emigrated to Wis (Chilton and then Menasha) about 1847-50: Kathryn Lauterbach (b. before 1840) m. John Melcher Anna Marie Lauterbach (b. 1840) m. Herman Fink/Vinkenvleugel/Finkenfleugel Elizabeth (Eliza) Lauterbach (b. 1841) m. Fred W. Nabbenfeld Minnie Lauterbach (b. 1844) m Peter Hammang and Henry Berendes Christian Lauterbach (b. abt 1849) m Catherine Bach Anna (b. abt 1850)(Sister Edesia) Lauterbach became a Notre Dame Nun in Milwaukee Would appreciate hearing from anyone about this family. helen

FORWARDED BY LIST ADMIN. [GERMANS-WI] HILKER Date: 5/26/2003 12:08:52 PM Central Daylight Time From: rloss@bellsouth.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com The other researcher that I have made contact with in Racine is Rob Blink RBlink@aol.com I originally found him via the Buscher family (Township Herman, Sheboygan County, Wisconsin) research. One of his relatives is a daughter of a Buscher from Sheboygan County. Anyway, I will be forwarding the information that he has sent me of a Ferdinand Hilker. Regards, Robert Lipprandt (South Florida) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subject: Re: [GERMANS-WI] Re: HANSCHE-SOERGEL-PIPER-HILKER-HENDERLITER

Dear Robert, Yes, all the Hilkers in Racine are directly related. There are other Hilker families in Wisconsin outside of Racine that I haven't figured out their ties yet. Thank you for sending my information on. I appreciate it. Carol

Here are the German families I'm researching in Wisconsin: Rudolph HANSCHE and descendants - Rudolph was born Dec 8, 1812 in Lienen, Germany died Sept 8, 1882 in Racine, Wisconsin. He married Anna SOERGEL who was born April 14, 1831 in Germany and died on her birthday, April 14, 1901 in Racine. Anna's brothers lived in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Augustus PIPER (nee' KRUMMPIEPER) was born the August 19, 1825 in Halle, Germany and died January 31, 1896 in Racine, Wisconsin. He married Margaret BRAID who was born in Scotland. Augustus (Gus) and Rudolph were on the same ship coming over to America. They were shipwrecked off the coast of Haiti and spent the winter of 1840-41 in Santo Domingo. Gus' mother died of Yellow Fever there. Ferdinand HILKER was born August 5, 1866 in Shoetmar, Germany and died June 24, 1949 in Racine, Wisconsin. He was married to Lydia HEISER who was born Dec 27, 1872 in Nebraska and died August 20, 1937 in Racine, Wisconsin. Ferdinand's parents lived in Racine for a brief period of time. They were Philip and Charlotte. I would love to find pictures of them as I have none. They moved to South Dakota with a daughter and her husband. Samuel HENDERLITER/HINDERLITER was born Sept 12, 1822 in Wilkes-Barre PA and died April 7, 1905 in Highland, Wisconsin. He was married to Malinda AINEAU ( ANO or ANOU). Carol Pattison