Hello, My name is Sandy and I am new to this list. This really is probably a long shot, but here is what I am looking for. John H. SCOTT b. about 1836/37 married Alice unknown. Alice was born in Indiana about 1855. In 1870, Federal Census the couple are living in Oregon Twp., Dane Co., WI with John's father, Horace M. SCOTT and John's siblings: Edward E. SCOTT and Almira (SCOTT) JEFFERS as well as her son Newton I. JEFFERS (My great grandfather). John is not to be found for 1860, however, Horace and Almira JEFFERS are in Beloit, Rock Co., WI in the house hold of Isaac N. JEFFERRS for 1860. Horace M. SCOTT b. about 1798, NY a botanical physician. Isaac Newton and Almira (SCOTT) JEFFERS being my great great grandparents. Per 1880 census, Beloit, Rock Co., WI Alice SCOTT b. 1855, Indiana which I mentioned earlier in this email both parent's born in Germany. I have searched common areas for Alice being 5 yrs old in 1850 with parent's being born in Germany and have never been able to find the info on Alice. My question is anyone missing an Alice or know of this Alice at all. Unfortunately, Alice probably passed away as John can be found in 1910 married to another woman, Marie M. b. abt. 1868 - Iowa. Also per 1880 census, John and Alice had one son, Edward SCOTT b. about 1875, Illinois. A direct link to this 1880 census image can be found on my website right here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scarletgen/scottjohnh1880beloit 57a.gif All census files I have on the found on this link: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scarletgen/census.html Can anyone help?? Thanks so much Best Regards, Sandy http://www.geocities.com/scarletgen/index.html Grant County, WI Biographies ~ County Coordinator http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scarletgen/index.html Scarletgen's Elusive SCOTT Family http://www.rootssearch.net/mygensite/sscarletgen/ Searching for the Ancestry of John ATTEBERRY

Cammie, I don't know if this will help or not. These are taken out of the Riverside Cemetery, Peshtigo, (not Pesktego) Marinette County, Wisconsin. Index which I have. It is an incomplete reading. BANACH, Stanley Sr. b. __ ___ 1888 - d. __ ___ 1956 Martha b. __ ___ 1896 - d. __ ___ 1952 Stanley Jr. b. __ ___ 1919 - d. __ ___ 1978 / Veteran / S Sgt US Army WW2 / Plaque + VFW mrkr Adeline D. b. __ ___ 1919 - d. __ ___ 1956 / Ladies Aux BAYER, Harold A. b. __ ___ ____ - d. __ ___ ____ m. 17 Jun 1967 Margaret HOIJER b. 19 Nov 1948 - d. 31 Jan 1999 / Obituary BAYER, Joseph A. b. __ ___ 1911 - d. __ ___ 1971 Anna M. b. __ ___ 1911 - d. __ ___ 1982 BAYER, Joseph K. b. __ ___ 1878 - d. __ ___ 1966 Anna M. b. __ ___ 1882 - d. __ ___ 1967 BAYER, Michael W. b. 11 Oct 1938 - d. 31 Aug 1991 / Veteran / BTFN US Navy / Plaque Louise b. __ ___ 1939 - d. __ ___ ____ SAGER, Karl F. b. __ ___ 1906 - d. __ ___ 1981 / Husband Ellen M. b. __ ___ 1924 - d. __ ___ ____ / Wife

The cemetery records for the Catholic churches in Milwaukee are online and is such a great website. http://www.cemeteries.org/genealogy/genealogy01.asp.

Descendants of John E. Sager Generation No. 1 1. JOHN E.1 SAGER He married HENRIETTA VANVONDERON. Child of JOHN SAGER and HENRIETTA VANVONDERON is: 2. i. RUTH2 SAGER, b. Aug 21, 1916, Coleman, Marinette Co., WI; d. Nov 10, 2002, San Luis Medical Center, Green Bay, WI.eneration No. 2 2. RUTH2 SAGER (JOHN E.1) was born Aug 21, 1916 in Coleman, Marinette Co., WI1, and died Nov 10, 2002 in San Luis Medical Center, Green Bay, WI1. She married JOHN B. ROCK Aug 09, 1941 in St. John's Catholic Church, Coleman, WI2, son of JOHN ROCK and ANNA BERNARDY. He was born Dec 09, 1910 in Milwaukee, WI2, and died May 21, 1979 in Coleman, Marinette Co., WI3. Notes for RUTH SAGER: Green Bay Press Gazette, Tuesday, November 12, 2002 Ruth Ann Rock, 86, a former Coleman resident died Sunday, Nov. 10, 2002, at San Luis Medical Center, Green Bay. The daughter of the late John E. and Henrietta (VanVonderon) Sager was born Aug. 21, 1916 at Coleman. She was married to John (Jack) Rock on Aug. 9, 1941 at the former St. John Catholic Church, Coleman. Ruth resided in Coleman her entire life. Her husband preceded her in death in May 1979. She was a former member of Ss. Francis & Wenceslaus Church, Coleman. Surviving are five children, Jacqueline (Bernard) Kania of Everett, Wash.; James (Beverly) Rock of Brillion; John (Linda) Rock of Cary, N.C.; Judith (Rod) Nelson of Green Bay; and Joseph (Susan) Rock of Waukesha; 13 grandchildren, one great grandchild; three brothers, Paul Sager of Coleman; Joe (Alice) Sager of Janesville and George (Nancy) Sager of De Pere. She was preceded in death by three sisters and one brother. Friends may call at Ss. Francis & Wenceslaus Church, Coleman from 3 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 14, 2002 until time of services. A Mass of Christian Burial will be held Thursday at 6 p.m. at the church with burial in Forest Home Cemetery, Marinette. Rhodes-Charapata Funeral Home, Coleman, is assisting the family with arrangements. More About RUTH SAGER: Burial: Forest Home Cemetery, Marinette, WI Notes for JOHN B. ROCK: Was married and divorced. Marinette Eagle-Star, Tues., 22 May 1979 Coleman Retiree Dies Unexpectedly John 'Jake' Rock, 68, well known retired Coleman businessman died unexpectedly Monday at Marinette General Hospital after being taken there by the Coleman Rescue Squad. Marinette Eagle-Star, 23 May 1979 SERVICES ARE SET FOR COLEMAN MAN Funeral services for John B. "Jack" Rock, 69, Coleman resident who died Monday, will be held Friday at 10:30 a.m. at St. Francis Catholic Church here. The Rev. Thomas Mayefske will officiate. Burial will be in Forest Home Cemetery, Marinette. The American Legion Post will conduct military rites at the church. Friends may call at Rhodes-Charapata Funeral Home Thursday from 5 to 9 p.m. There will be a parish wake service at 7:30. Mr. Rock was born Dec 9, 1910, at Milwaukee. He came to Pound at the age of 7. He was a 1929 graduate of Coleman High School. He was employed by the Seils Brothers Garage at Pound as a mechanic. He moved to Madison where he worked for Kayser Motors for about a year. In 1947, he formed a partnership with a brother-in-law, Paul Sager, in a business known as Northland Motors of Coleman. He retired in 1976. Mr. Rock was a veteran of World War II. He served with the Marines including action at Iwo Jima. He was a member of the American Legion Post, St. Francis Church, the Coleman Businessmen's Association, White Potato Lake Advancement Association, Klondike Sportsman's Club and a former member of the Knights of Columbus. He married the former Ruth Sager, Aug 9, 1941, at the former St. John's Church here. She survives with three sons, James J. of Brillion, John P. of Milwaukee and Joseph M., a student at Fox Valley Technical Institute Appleton; two daughters, Mrs. Bernard Kania of Sussex and Mrs. Rodney Nelson of Green Bay. Also four sisters, Mrs. John Butzer of Mankato, Minn., Miss Alice Rock and Mrs. Thomas Kayes of Green Bay, and Miss Bernice Rock of Waukesha, and four grandchildren. More About JOHN B. ROCK: Burial: Forest Home Cemetery, Marinette, Wi Census 1: 1920, 9 yrs old attending school Census 2: 1930, 19 yr old mechanic at Seils Brothers garage, living with parents Education: 1929, Graduated from Coleman High School Military service: Marines in WWII Occupation: 1947, Started Northland Motors of Coleman More About JOHN ROCK and RUTH SAGER: Marriage: Aug 09, 1941, St. John's Catholic Church, Coleman, WI4 Children of RUTH SAGER and JOHN ROCK are: i. JAMES J.3 ROCK, m. BEVERLY ?. More About JAMES J. ROCK: Residence 1: 1979, Brillion, WI Residence 2: 2002, Brillon, WI ii. JOHN P. ROCK, m. LINDA ?. More About JOHN P. ROCK: Residence 1: 1979, Milwaukee, WI Residence 2: 2002, Cary, N. Carolina iii. JOSEPH M. ROCK, m. SUSAN ?. More About JOSEPH M. ROCK: Education: 1979, Student at Fox Valley Tech. Institute, Appleton, WI Residence: 2002, Waukesha, WI iv. JACQUELINE ROCK, m. BERNARD KANIA. More About BERNARD KANIA: Residence 1: 1979, Sussex, WI Residence 2: 2002, Everett, WA v. JUDITH ROCK, m. RODNEY NELSON. More About RODNEY NELSON: Residence 1: 1979, Green Bay, WI Residence 2: 2002, Green Bay, WI Endnotes 1. "Newpaper Obituary," Green Bay Press Gazette, 12 Nov 2002. 2. "Marinette Eagle-Star," Obit, Wed., 23 May 1979. 3. "Marinette Eagle-Star," Wed ., 23 May 1979. 4. "Marinette Eagle-Star," Obit, Wed., 23 May 1979.

Where can I find a description of Prussia, the countries it it's area covered and its history? -- Age is a very high price to pay for maturity. Jim Dohr <| ; )

Cammie wrote: > >My great, great, great grandparents, Franciscus SAGER & Theresa CHRISTLEBAUER came to from Germany & settled in Norman, Wisconsin. First of all, where is Norman, WI???? Cammie, to find the county for any US town, go to http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/ Enter the town & state and the search engine will tell you which county. Norman, WI, is in Kewaunee county in NE wisconsin. The Kewaunee County rootsweb page is: http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/WI/Kewaunee/ I recommend looking for the second/third generations in the 1880 census database, which is free at: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/searc h_census.asp At the following message boards you may find others researching the same lines: The Kewaunee County rootsweb message board is: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.wisconsin.counties.kewaunee The Kewaunee County genforum message board is: http://genforum.genealogy.com/wi/kewaunee/ To find the SAGER surname message board at rootsweb, go to http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/script/main/rw The SAGER surname message board at genforum is: http://genforum.genealogy.com/sager/ Good luck! ================= "Always use real butter." ================= Mary Thiele Fobian Writer/Editor Pacific Grove, CA

Hi Cammie, Welcome to the list. This might be of a little help to you. Norman, Wisconsin was in the area of Algoma, Kewaunee, Two Rivers, Mishicot, Manitowoc, Wisconsin. It was located in Carlton Township, Kewaunee County, Wisconsin. I went to ask Jeeves and put in Where can I find "Norman, Wisconsin"? (Use the quotes or else you will get every website with any mention of Norman, in the results. Several things came up but the most interesting and pertinent was "Genealogy Date Page 45 - Notes Pages. The time frame probably does not include your ancestors. When the page comes up go to the Edit button on the taskbar - click on it and take the Find (on this page). A little box will come up and enter Norman and it will come up with some information from their notes - giving you at least something to start with. As far as I know, the church records, at least for the Milwaukee Archdiocese are on microfilm and available for review through LDS. Norman would be in the Green Bay Diocese - I think they are also available, but I am not positive. Again welcome, and happy hunting. Eifeler aus Walsdorf familygenealogy@comcast.net > Hi all, > > I just subscribed to your list a few minutes ago & thought I'd type a quick note > to get acquainted. > My name is Cammie Jordan. I am researching some of my German ancestors that > lived in different places in Wisconsin. I haven't done much research on this > side of my family yet, but the research I've done has lead me to many brick > walls. Maybe you can help recognize some of these surnames. > > SURNAMES include: BANACH; BARCLAY; BAYER; BEARDSLEY; BECHERL; BREUNNING; > BRUSKY; BURR; BUSSA; CHRISTLEBAUER; DELCORP; DITTMER; DORY; KENNINGER; KRAUSE; > LEVERNEZ MacFerson; MAIGATTER; MOLITOR; PEKAREK; RAUSCHER; ROCK; SAGER; > SCHROEDER; SPEG; SCHWEKE; SHERMAN; SMITS; VAN VONDEREN > > My great, great, great grandparents, Franciscus SAGER & Theresa CHRISTLEBAUER > came to from Germany & settled in Norman, Wisconsin. First of all, where is > Norman, WI???? They are both buried in the St. Joseph Catholic Church Cemetery > there. They had 9 children: Carrie; Kate; Rose; Ben; Maria; Frank; John E.; > Julius & Laura. Since I barely know anything about this family, I'd like to get > into contact with anyone who has ties to this family. I'd like to trade photos > & information on my side of this family. I'll list what little I know about > each child. > > Carrie SAGER married a man named Theodore SCHROEDER, but I don't know when & > where. I don't even have Carrie's birth date, but it would have been either in > the late 1840's or early 1850's - probably marrying about 20-25 years after > that. Their only son in law's surnames was: KRAUSE. > > Kate SAGER married a man named William BARCLAY. Again, I don't know when & > where, nor do I have Kate's birth date. It would be somewhere around the late > 1840's or early 1850's. > > Rose SAGER married a man with the last name of SPEG. I don't even know his > first name. Rose was the 3rd child born, so her dates would be right after her > sister's. > > Ben SAGER married a woman named Sophia Foss BREUNING. Ben was born March 20, > 1857 in Austria. He married Sophia in 1883, but I don't know where. They had 3 > children: Frank; Martha & Fred "Tiny". Frank was born September 09, 1884 & > married Amelia DELCORP December 21, 1927 (don't know where) & they had one child > that I know of named Robert. Martha (b. August 06, 1886) married a man named > Enos BURR sometime & somewhere & they had Llewellyn & Wayne. Fred "Tiny" > married Norma SCHWEKE June 1928 (also don't have a place of marriage). > > NOTE: this next line is my direct line. Would REALLY like information about > them! > Maria SAGER married Anton KENNINGER. They ended up living in Michigan, but may > have lived many places in Wisconsin. Their kids were: > Anna Mary Kenninger; Kathryn Anna Kenninger; Francis Anton Kenninger; Mary > Martha; Helen "Lena" Martha; Laura Theresa & Benhard Julius Kenninger. > Anna Mary married Joseph BAYER who was born in Pesktego, WI. Their son in laws > surnames include: YORK; MARSK; VOGEL & JERSKY. > Kathryn married Charles BECHERL. I have all the information about this line. > Mary Martha married Alex RAUSCHER. Their son in law's surnames were: BEARDSLEY > & BANACH. > Helen "Lena" married an Elmer DORY. They are both buried in Oconto, Wisconsin. > I don't have death dates for either of them, nor do I know if they had children > or not. > Laura married an Paul BUSSA. > Benhard married Myrtle Becherl in North Dakota > END of my line. > > Frank Sager married Julia BRUSKY. Son in law surnames include: SHERMAN; > MAIGATTER & PEKAREK > > John E. Sager married Henrrietta VAN VONDEREN. Son in law surnames include: > SMITS; MOLITOR; ROCK; & MacFerson. > > Julius Sager (born in WI - don't know birth date) married Anna DITTMER. Their > son in law's surname was LEVERNEZ. > > Laura married Louis BRUSKY. She & her husband are buried in St. Mary's Catholic > Cemetery, Neillsville, Wisconsin. They both died in the early 1950's. > > Anyone with connections to this family, I'd LOVE to hear from you! Also, if > anyone else can provide information, that would be awesome. Thanks so much!! > > Cammie Jordan > > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe from LIST mode. > Send a message to GERMANS-WI-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE and no > additional text. > --- > How to unsubscribe from DIGEST mode. > Send a message to GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the command UNSUBSCRIBE and no > additional text. >

Hi all, I just subscribed to your list a few minutes ago & thought I'd type a quick note to get acquainted. My name is Cammie Jordan. I am researching some of my German ancestors that lived in different places in Wisconsin. I haven't done much research on this side of my family yet, but the research I've done has lead me to many brick walls. Maybe you can help recognize some of these surnames. SURNAMES include: BANACH; BARCLAY; BAYER; BEARDSLEY; BECHERL; BREUNNING; BRUSKY; BURR; BUSSA; CHRISTLEBAUER; DELCORP; DITTMER; DORY; KENNINGER; KRAUSE; LEVERNEZ MacFerson; MAIGATTER; MOLITOR; PEKAREK; RAUSCHER; ROCK; SAGER; SCHROEDER; SPEG; SCHWEKE; SHERMAN; SMITS; VAN VONDEREN My great, great, great grandparents, Franciscus SAGER & Theresa CHRISTLEBAUER came to from Germany & settled in Norman, Wisconsin. First of all, where is Norman, WI???? They are both buried in the St. Joseph Catholic Church Cemetery there. They had 9 children: Carrie; Kate; Rose; Ben; Maria; Frank; John E.; Julius & Laura. Since I barely know anything about this family, I'd like to get into contact with anyone who has ties to this family. I'd like to trade photos & information on my side of this family. I'll list what little I know about each child. Carrie SAGER married a man named Theodore SCHROEDER, but I don't know when & where. I don't even have Carrie's birth date, but it would have been either in the late 1840's or early 1850's - probably marrying about 20-25 years after that. Their only son in law's surnames was: KRAUSE. Kate SAGER married a man named William BARCLAY. Again, I don't know when & where, nor do I have Kate's birth date. It would be somewhere around the late 1840's or early 1850's. Rose SAGER married a man with the last name of SPEG. I don't even know his first name. Rose was the 3rd child born, so her dates would be right after her sister's. Ben SAGER married a woman named Sophia Foss BREUNING. Ben was born March 20, 1857 in Austria. He married Sophia in 1883, but I don't know where. They had 3 children: Frank; Martha & Fred "Tiny". Frank was born September 09, 1884 & married Amelia DELCORP December 21, 1927 (don't know where) & they had one child that I know of named Robert. Martha (b. August 06, 1886) married a man named Enos BURR sometime & somewhere & they had Llewellyn & Wayne. Fred "Tiny" married Norma SCHWEKE June 1928 (also don't have a place of marriage). NOTE: this next line is my direct line. Would REALLY like information about them! Maria SAGER married Anton KENNINGER. They ended up living in Michigan, but may have lived many places in Wisconsin. Their kids were: Anna Mary Kenninger; Kathryn Anna Kenninger; Francis Anton Kenninger; Mary Martha; Helen "Lena" Martha; Laura Theresa & Benhard Julius Kenninger. Anna Mary married Joseph BAYER who was born in Pesktego, WI. Their son in laws surnames include: YORK; MARSK; VOGEL & JERSKY. Kathryn married Charles BECHERL. I have all the information about this line. Mary Martha married Alex RAUSCHER. Their son in law's surnames were: BEARDSLEY & BANACH. Helen "Lena" married an Elmer DORY. They are both buried in Oconto, Wisconsin. I don't have death dates for either of them, nor do I know if they had children or not. Laura married an Paul BUSSA. Benhard married Myrtle Becherl in North Dakota END of my line. Frank Sager married Julia BRUSKY. Son in law surnames include: SHERMAN; MAIGATTER & PEKAREK John E. Sager married Henrrietta VAN VONDEREN. Son in law surnames include: SMITS; MOLITOR; ROCK; & MacFerson. Julius Sager (born in WI - don't know birth date) married Anna DITTMER. Their son in law's surname was LEVERNEZ. Laura married Louis BRUSKY. She & her husband are buried in St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery, Neillsville, Wisconsin. They both died in the early 1950's. Anyone with connections to this family, I'd LOVE to hear from you! Also, if anyone else can provide information, that would be awesome. Thanks so much!! Cammie Jordan

Ann: If you are new to genealogy research, here are some of the best FREE online genealogy links that may prove very useful in your research; some are Marathon County-specific: The UW-SP Library in Stevens Point http://library.uwsp.edu/depts/archives/archives.htm has a collection titled: Wausau Centennial Genealogy - 1939. This is a huge collection (50,000 names) of genealogies of Wausau residents. In 1939, to celebrate their centennial, they sent volunteers throughout the city to gather genealogies of all the residents. The collection, which is stored at the library, is indexed by name. If you send an email to the Archivist with the names you are looking for, they will check the index file to see if your name(s) are on file. You can then request a copy of the file(s) to be mailed to you. They charge a nominal fee to copy the records plus postage costs. Each individual file contains a hand-written copy and a type-written copy of the first. I'd request the hand-written one because the type-written one might have missing info. Depending on how large of a genealogy was gathered, there may be up to 10 pages in each file. At 10 cents a copy (or whatever they charge), that's a good deal. Register free with this site to see if any of your family came through Ellis Iland: http://www.ellisisland.org/help/whe_register_1.asp?MID=10859489290067434816& Post your surname or find other researchers who have posted your surname, here: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/script/main/an Sometimes the SPOI of Portage County, Wisconsin has obituaries from Marathon County here: http://library.uwsp.edu/Obits/ Post at USGENWEB to your specific county or state that you are researching: http://www.usgenweb.org/index2.html Online SSDI can give you clues to many family members using the social security number: http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi Search towns in Europe (or elsewhere) to find the location of a specific town on the map that your ancestors may have immigrated from: http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~shtetl Search the LDS archives for your family name: http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Check out this lady's webpage in Germany for Pommeranian names: http://www.on-line.de/~karin.schoepke/Forscher.htm#Anfang Search here for your surnames: http://www.genforum.genealogy.com/surnames/ Translate words and sentences from German or other languages into English here: http://babel.altavista.com/translate.dyn Great luck in your research, Andy Bartelt Stevens Point My genealogy website where you may or may not find info on names you are researching: http://server3002.freeyellow.com/rareprints/index.html My related family lines: FIENE (WI/IA), FREDERICH (WI), FREIBERG MI/WI), GRUBE (WI), HEUER (MN), JACOBS (WI/AK), JENSEN (Copenhagen, DN/MI/WI), KLEIN (WI), KLUMB (WI), KNAACK (WI), KRENZKE (MN/WI), LISSNER (WI), MAERCKER (WI), NOVAK (MN/WI), OBITZ (MN), RISCH (WI), SCHULTZ (MN/WI), SCHUMACHER (WI), SCHWENKE (WI/FL), STROHMEIER (WI), STUEBER (Pommern), VOTAVA (IL), WAPPLER (WI), WEGNER (WI), WEILER (WI/AK), ZALUSKY (WI). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathie Harrison" <nelliblu28@yahoo.com> To: <GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 8:08 AM Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Re: PATZER 1773-1900 E.Prussia>Wausau,WI **FWD by List Admin. > FORWARDED by LIST ADMIN. > > >>Subj: Re: PATZER 1773-1900 E.Prussia>Wausau,WI > Date: 7/12/2003 1:10:23 AM Central Daylight Time > From: apowers@snet.net > To: GERMANS-WI-L-request@rootsweb.com > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > I am researching my PATZER line. > > The earliest PATZER I have is my GGgrandfather, > Johann. He was born about October 1773, probably in > East Prussia, and died 13 July 1856, probably in > Obodowo, Flatow, E.Prussia. > His wife [not likely his first since he was 69 and she > 25 when they married] was Louisa ZIELKE, born 17 June > 1818, in Waldau, Prussia, to Andreas ZIELKE and > Elizabeth SCHWARZ. > > Johann PATZER and Louisa ZIELKE had four children, > Augusta, Johann Friedrich (b.1843), Louisa (b.1846) > and Edward (b.1850), all born in Prussia. After > Johann's death in Prussia his wife and all four > children eventually came to Wisconsin. Johann > Friedrich, my greatgrandfather, ran a tavern in > Wausau, Wisconsin, and died in 1896. > > Augusta lived in Wausau, married Ed WEINKAUF, and had > a number of children. I was told that one of the > Weinkaufs did a family history, which I would like to > know about. > > Any information or suggestions for research on this > line would be appreciated. > > Ann Powers > apowers@snet.net > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > GERMANS-WI Message Board: > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.wigermans >

FORWARDED by LIST ADMIN. >>Subj: Re: PATZER 1773-1900 E.Prussia>Wausau,WI Date: 7/12/2003 1:10:23 AM Central Daylight Time From: apowers@snet.net To: GERMANS-WI-L-request@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) I am researching my PATZER line. The earliest PATZER I have is my GGgrandfather, Johann. He was born about October 1773, probably in East Prussia, and died 13 July 1856, probably in Obodowo, Flatow, E.Prussia. His wife [not likely his first since he was 69 and she 25 when they married] was Louisa ZIELKE, born 17 June 1818, in Waldau, Prussia, to Andreas ZIELKE and Elizabeth SCHWARZ. Johann PATZER and Louisa ZIELKE had four children, Augusta, Johann Friedrich (b.1843), Louisa (b.1846) and Edward (b.1850), all born in Prussia. After Johann's death in Prussia his wife and all four children eventually came to Wisconsin. Johann Friedrich, my greatgrandfather, ran a tavern in Wausau, Wisconsin, and died in 1896. Augusta lived in Wausau, married Ed WEINKAUF, and had a number of children. I was told that one of the Weinkaufs did a family history, which I would like to know about. Any information or suggestions for research on this line would be appreciated. Ann Powers apowers@snet.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

This book was written and self published by Blanche Opal Kern Schad of Tulsa, OK. She was a Harrison descendant and first cousin to my G-grandfather, Herman Harrison who lived in Saunders Co., Nebraska. Opal's mother Emma Justine Harrison and my GG-grandfather Richard Harrison (Cuming Co., NE) were siblings. Emma and her husband Charles Wesley Kern went from Saunders Co., NE to OK Territory in 1893 and settled in Tulsa. Opal & her mother Emma are in the photograph above. This is a story of the family and Opal and her older siblings and later their own families growing up with Tulsa from territorial days to statehood and through 2 World Wars, etc. Opal's son Harry of Tulsa, OK gave me permission to transcribe and put his mother's book online. >From "Growing Up With Tulsa" by Blanche Opal Kern Schad, who married a Plymouth, WI German. "In Wisconsin we had a kerosene stove. I never did learn to bake in it. Our early day gas stove ovens had meters marked warm -medium -hot This meter was in a glass container built into the oven door with a needle pointing to the temperature. By adjusting the flame you could control the heat Things to be cooked below 300 degrees would cause the needle to point to the top of the warm section, from 325 degrees to 400 degrees, medium and above that, hot. However, our first cook stove with gas was a wood burner range that had a gas burner fitting into the compartment where wood had originally been used. This stove had a reservoir fastened to it at the opposite side where the burner was. This we kept full of water in order to have hot water. Our regular gas stove set up on legs with an oven at the top and a broiler under it. The other half of the stove was the burner part. This was covered with a warming shelf near the top of the cover to keep food hot. " Here are some recipes that were Opal's very German mother-in-law. Please keep in mind that the recipes are very old and Opal and Catherine (Kathryn) are long gone from this world. ENJOY! ======= Oatmeal Cookies Catherine Schad 1 box brown sugar 1 cup of lard (Crisco is now used) 2 eggs 1 tablespoon baking powder in 1/2 cup of warm water 2 cups flour 1 1/2 teaspoon nutmeg, 2 teaspoons cinnamon, 1 teaspoon sugar. Mix. Stir in: 3 cups quick cooking oatmeal 1 1/2 cup raisins 1 1/2 nuts Let stand overnight. Bake at 325 degrees for 10 to 15 minutes. ====== Rabbit 1 rabbit, 2 1/2 lbs. 3 cups of red wine 3 cups water 1/4 cup sugar 1 medium onion 2 carrots 1 teaspoon salt 1 teaspoon pickling spices 1/4 teaspoon pepper Marinate in a covered pan for 20 minutes. Drain the rabbit and add: 1/3 cup flour 1/2 teaspoon salt 1/2 teaspoon monosodium glutamate 1/2 teaspoon pepper 3 tablespoon fat Add the spices by piece. Let slowly brown in skillet and turn over. Cook until done (similar to frying chicken). Remove rabbit from heat Gradually add half of marinade, 1/4 cup flour and shake well in jar. Put into frying pan to make gravy. === Catherine Schad baked bread once or twice a week. 1 pkg. Star or Fleischmann's yeast put into warm water (2 1/2 cups plus 1/2 cup milk) Pour enough flour (6 to 7 cups) into it and let stand while getting the remainder ready. 2 eggs 1/3 cup of Crisco oil (She used 1/3 cup of lard.) 1/2 cup sugar salt Mix down. Repeat. Mix down. Put into loaf pans - 3 loaves - or make coffee cake, doughnuts, etc. out of it. Bake in hot oven. 350 degrees for about 35 minutes. Remove and add butter across top. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hot Potato Salad with Bratwurst Fry bacon in strips. Save the fat to make the gravy with water. 1 onion celery seed Boil potatoes with jackets and cut into slices and add to gravy. Add vinegar and a little wine vinegar, some sugar, and bacon strips to gravy. Serve with bratwurst. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Suet Pudding 1 cup sugar 1 cup raisins 1 cup chopped suet 2 cups flour 1 cup sour milk 2 T. molasses 1 t. soda pinch of salt 1 cup nuts Steam 2 hours and serve with Hard Sauce. Hard Sauce 1/2 cup butter creamed with 1 cup of sugar. Flavor with vanilla if desired. Beat butter to a cream, add the sugar and beat thoroughly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date Bars - Nelda Schad White 1 cup sugar 3 eggs (beat whites ) 1 cup flour 1 cup dates & raisins 1 cup nuts 1 1/2 t. baking powder pinch salt 1/2 t. vanilla Place in tin, press down and bake slowly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oatmeal Cookies 3 cups Oatmeal 1/2 cup butter 1/2 cup lard 2 eggs well beaten 1 1/2 cup sugar pinch salt 2 t. vanilla 1 t. cinnamon 1 cup raisins 1 cup nuts 1 cup coconut 6 T. milk 1 t. soda 2 cups flour Pour melted butter and lard over oats while hot Drop in small teaspoon. Fill well greased pan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anise Seed Cookies 4 egg whites beaten 15 min. 1 # powdered sugar added slowly 2 cups flour (sifted 3 or 4 times). Add slowly 1 tsp. anise seed - ground Drop in tins at night Bake in morning. 300 degrees until lightly browned. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oatmeal Cookie 1 cup lard 2 cups brown sugar 3 cups oatmeal, quick 3 min. 2 cups flour 1/2 cup hot water (1 t. soda) 2 t. cinnamon 1/2 t. cloves 1 t. ginger 1/2 t. nutmeg 1 t. allspice salt, nuts, raisins 2 eggs Mix like cake. Add oatmeal last. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Potato Pancakes 5 uncooked potatoes 1 med. onion 1 T. chopped parsley 1/2 t. salt pepper 2 eggs 2 T. flour Grate potatoes & onions. Add salt, pepper, eggs, parsley, and flour. Mix well & drop by spoonfuls into hot fat in heavy frying pan. Turn once. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poppy Seed Cake 1 1/2 cups sugar 3/4 cup butter (scant) 3/4 cup milk 3/4 cup poppy seed (milk and poppy seed are soaked overnight) 2 cups flour 2 t. baking powder 4 egg whites beaten stiff. Add last vanilla. Bake in layers at 350 degrees until brown. Filling 3 egg yolks 2 cups milk a heaping T. cornstarch 3/4 cup sugar vanilla Boil in double boiler until thick. Serve cold. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Devil's Food Cake 1 heaping teaspoon butter 1 cup sugar (cream well) 1 egg (add and beat again) Cut 2 squares of bitter chocolate into a sauce pan, add 1/2 cup of water and let this come to a boil. Then pour over above contents. Next add 1 1/2 cups flour with 1 t. baking powder. Last, add 1/2 (scant) t. soda to 1/2 cup boiling water. Add to above. The secret of this cake is to have the batter thin. Bake 350 degrees. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shaum Torte 6 egg whites (beaten) 2 cups sugar 1 teaspoon vinegar 1 teaspoon vanilla Beat egg whites stiff, gradually add sugar, add t. vinegar last. Bake 325 for 10 min., 300 for 25 min. Then top with bananas or strawberries and whipped cream. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peppernuts (pfeffernisse) Grease cookie sheets. Grate 1/2 cup blanched almonds. Sift: 4 cups flour 2 t. cinnamon 1/2 t. nutmeg 1/2 t. allspice 1/2 t. cloves 1/4 t. mace 1/4 t. salt 1/4 t. pepper 3 oz. candied citron 4 eggs, beaten until thick 2 cups sugar added slowly Turn onto floured surface. Cut with 1" round cutter. Put 1 drip brandy on each cookie. Lightly brown. 350 for 15 to 20 min. A few more recipes can be found on Chapter 12. http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/tulsa/index.html ===== Always digging for my roots, Kathie Harrison Lancaster Co. Coordinator, NEGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~nelancas/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

Cindy, Regarding interlibrary loan generally, Wisconsin and Minnesota have a reciprocal agreement. However, it is Wisconsin Historical Society (WHS) policy not to interlibrary loan genealogically-related materials from their collection. What you may try doing is, from your local library, requesting photocopies of relevant pages from the book, e.g., a title page to verify the identity of the document you are having searched, the table of contents to verify that you understand the format of the work, and finally--presuming this work is principally arranged alphabetically by name--photocopies of entries for specific surnames. We will attempt genealogical ILL requests for patrons who come to our library if they are so specified. Good luck! At 04:00 AM 7/6/03 -0600, GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >GERMANS-WI-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 76 > >Today's Topics: > #1 [GERMANS-WI] Immigrants to America [clindau <clindau@mninter.net>] > >Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 16:26:00 -0500 >From: clindau <clindau@mninter.net> >To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <3F074268.1020606@mninter.net> >Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Immigrants to America from the Prussian province Pomerania (Pommern) >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Does anyone have access to this publication? The full title is >"Immigrants to America from the Prussian Province, Pomerania (Pommern), >Germany, 1853-1854" by Maralyn Wellauer. It was published in 1985 by >Roots International. I found Johann Laack, a possible anscestor, in FTM >CD #354 (Immigration and Passenger Lists Index) that lists this pamphlet >as the source. I'd like to find out what additional information, if any, >this pamphlet has about this man and his family. I've done online >searches of as many of my local libraries as possible, and the closest >library that has this particular title of Ms Wellauer's is in Madison in >the Historical Society Library's Pamphlet Collection. I live in >Minnesota, and I don't think that interlibrary loan crosses state lines. > >If someone has this pamphlet in their personal library, or can go the >WSHS library and can see what it consists of, I'd be very grateful. > >Or the condensed version--Can someone do a lookup for me in this pamphlet? > >Hope everyone's Independence Day was great. > >All the best, >Cindy Lindau >searching LINDAU LAACK DAEKE SCHROEDER in central and southeast Wisconsin > Don Litzer Head of Adult Services McMillan Memorial Library 490 E. Grand Avenue Wisconsin Rapids, WI 54494 (715) 423-1040 "Happiness = Reality - Expectations"

Does anyone have access to this publication? The full title is "Immigrants to America from the Prussian Province, Pomerania (Pommern), Germany, 1853-1854" by Maralyn Wellauer. It was published in 1985 by Roots International. I found Johann Laack, a possible anscestor, in FTM CD #354 (Immigration and Passenger Lists Index) that lists this pamphlet as the source. I'd like to find out what additional information, if any, this pamphlet has about this man and his family. I've done online searches of as many of my local libraries as possible, and the closest library that has this particular title of Ms Wellauer's is in Madison in the Historical Society Library's Pamphlet Collection. I live in Minnesota, and I don't think that interlibrary loan crosses state lines. If someone has this pamphlet in their personal library, or can go the WSHS library and can see what it consists of, I'd be very grateful. Or the condensed version--Can someone do a lookup for me in this pamphlet? Hope everyone's Independence Day was great. All the best, Cindy Lindau searching LINDAU LAACK DAEKE SCHROEDER in central and southeast Wisconsin

Does anyone know anything about a George BREY who came to U.S. from Bavaria in about the mid 1800's and settled in Manitowoc? Some of his children were Ann, John, Mary, Francesca and Barbara. I believe his wife's name was Ann. Any information about the family would be appreciated. I am quite sure that George BREY was a brother to my great-grandfather Joseph BREY. Florence in North Carolina __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455

I have information on PRIBBERNOW's that lived in the Winnebago Co. area. John Wendorf ----- Original Message ----- From: <GERMANS-WI-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <GERMANS-WI-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:03 AM Subject: GERMANS-WI-D Digest V03 #73

I have information regarding the PRIBBERNOW family in Clark Co. (Owen, Withee area) Carol AWE

There are also Pribbernow's in the Wisconsin Rapids area, shirt tail relation as they say. I have some information. Doug Plowman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathie Harrison" <nelliblu28@yahoo.com> To: <GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 9:52 AM Subject: [GERMANS-WI] RE: Pribnow Sibling's *FWD by List Admin. From: rloss@bellsouth.net > FORWARDED BY LIST ADMIN. > > >>Subj: [GERMANS-WI] Pribnow Sibling's > Date: 6/22/2003 5:45:50 AM Central Daylight Time > > To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > Good morning Rob, > > I am in the middle of some transcriptions for the > Clark County > (WI) ALHN site. > > In the village of Curtiss, there are Prib er now's and > Pribb er now's. > The difference being the spelling....addition of "er" > in the middle. > > In that particular area (Township Colby and Township > Mayville), > according to early plat maps, there are also surnames > with the > "er." > > If you want the site address, get back to me. > > Regards, Robert Lipprandt > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Pribnow Sibling's > > > > Looking for information on the siblings of > Friederike (Pribnow) Bosin. > Born 1825 in Pommerania and died 1910 in Dodge Co. > Her obit. says she came > to America in 1845 with her mother and brothers and > sisters. They first > settled in the Milwaukee area. Are there any > descendants of her brothers > and sisters out there? > > Rob Seifert rseifert@globaldialog.com<< > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > ==== GERMANS-WI Mailing List ==== > The GERMANS-WI-L SURNAMES & RESEARCHERS Page is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/germans-wi-names.htm > > >

FORWARDED BY LIST ADMIN. >>Subj: [GERMANS-WI] Pribnow Sibling's Date: 6/22/2003 5:45:50 AM Central Daylight Time To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Good morning Rob, I am in the middle of some transcriptions for the Clark County (WI) ALHN site. In the village of Curtiss, there are Prib er now's and Pribb er now's. The difference being the spelling....addition of "er" in the middle. In that particular area (Township Colby and Township Mayville), according to early plat maps, there are also surnames with the "er." If you want the site address, get back to me. Regards, Robert Lipprandt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Subject: [GERMANS-WI] Pribnow Sibling's > Looking for information on the siblings of Friederike (Pribnow) Bosin. Born 1825 in Pommerania and died 1910 in Dodge Co. Her obit. says she came to America in 1845 with her mother and brothers and sisters. They first settled in the Milwaukee area. Are there any descendants of her brothers and sisters out there? > Rob Seifert rseifert@globaldialog.com<< __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

I have a Caroline PRIBNOW born Jan. 16, 1839, in Prussia. Married August BARTELT. She died on July 2, 1906, and is buried in Cecil (Shawano County) WI. Tasha

Looking for information on the siblings of Friederike (Pribnow) Bosin. Born 1825 in Pommerania and died 1910 in Dodge Co. Her obit. says she came to America in 1845 with her mother and brothers and sisters. They first settled in the Milwaukee area. Are there any descendants of her brothers and sisters out there? Rob Seifert rseifert@globaldialog.com