Hello list, I search for descendants from this persons : Johan Zage, born about 1836 in Germany spouse Amalia Zage, born about 1840 in Germany Children : Wilhelmine Zage, born about 1865 in Germany William Zage, born about 1868 in Germany Frank Zage, born about 1875 in Wisconcens Alwina Zage, born about 1877 in Wisconcens Albert Zage, born about 1879 in Wisoncens this family lived 1880 in Montpelier, Kewaunee, Wisconcens Christopher Zege, born about 1838 in Germany spouse Minni Zege, born about 1843 in Germany Children : Bertha Zege, born about 1866 in Germany Gustav Zege, born about 1869 in Germany Emil Zege, born about 1873 in Wisconcens This family lived 1880 in Rosendale, Fond Du Lac, Wisconcens Heinrich Zaage, born about 1859 in Germany spouse ? Children : Hermann Zaage, born 1885 Hedwig Zaage, born 1891 Hertha Zaage, born 1894 This family lived 1900 in Milwaukee Town, Wisconcins I search for all Zaage / Zage familys all over the world. The roots from this familys are in Pommern and Mecklenburg in Germany. Thank you Greetings from Hamburg / Germany Andrea Zaage

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: Re: Milwaukee Sites Date: 10/26/2002 8:28:23 AM Central Daylight Time From: rloss@bellsouth.net To: sharonvircks@wwdb.org CC: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Subject: Milwaukee Sites www.usgenweb.org Yes, I am familiar with usgenweb as I have contributed to their Clark County site. www.linkstothepast.com Sharon, this site is worth its weight!!! It beats the bejeebers (??) out of everything else that I have found.......a bit short of clickable cemetery infomation but at least the framework is there in black and white! This will give me a couple of days worth to look at. I do appreciate you information Sharon! Regards, Robert Lipprandt<<

I have just updated the GERMANS-WI Surnames & Researchers page. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/germans-wi-names.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/germans-wi-l.htm Rooting for the past --Kathie Harrison - List Admin. GERMANS-WI Thunder is good. Thunder is impressive. But it's the lightning does the work. ~Mark Twain

Here is my Krueger line: Frank Robert Krueger b. 22 May 1875 in Pomerania, Germany d. 9 Sep 1951 in Appleton, Outagamie Co, WI. Father may have been named Julius and mother may have been Charlotte and Julius' father may have been named John. Two brothers: Paul and William who were still living in Germany in 1951. Frank married Rose Amelia Zick on 30 Jun 1903. Rose was b. 15 Feb 1875 in Forest Junction, WI and d. 9 Sep 1961 in Appleton, Outagamie, WI. I have Rose's family goin back two more generations. Frank and Rose had 5 children: Ruth M., Norma K., Wilmer Alfred (my grandfather), Rosella "Sally", and Mildred. In addition, they had a foster daughter Mary. Frank immigrated in 1901 and was a cabinetmaker for the Graph Manufacturing Company and a members if the Methodist Episcopal Church in Appleton, WI. Served in te German Army before immigration. Would love to take this line back even further! Stacey Krueger Barton --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: Farmer's Directory Date: 10/25/2002 7:05:46 AM Central Daylight Time From: rloss@bellsouth.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com CC: anaquea@dwave.net Sent from the Internet (Details) Unfortunately Patti, the surname is spelled Hamann all the way back to 1760 in Herzosgwalde, Kreis Meißen, Sachsen, the exception being an "in" added to the back of the name as was custom to note a female (Hamannin). Seeing as I live in South Florida and cannot get to a library that contains this "Farmers Directory", does it contain all the surnames of Marathon County? The reason I ask is that I have others (via Schulte Family Tree) that resided in Marathon County, bordering Clark County. I do appreciate your help though! Regards, Robert Lipprandt > There are many Hanneman/Hannemann farm families listed in the 1930 Atlas > and Farmers' Directory of Marathon Co. WI. >>

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: [GERMANS-WI] Milwaukee Online Cemetery Research Date: 10/25/2002 5:17:17 AM Central Daylight Time From: rloss@bellsouth.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) O.K., let me rephrase that a bit. When I attempt to do research in the Milwaukee area.....all sites seem to lead to a main page where fees area discussed and where you can send for information, usually the State Historical Society in Madison. I believe there are different fees charged to members and non members. The regional centers at the University of Wisconsin Campuses are another example. They list online which documents they hold and from which counties but the ultimate information has to be researched by the individual (tough because I live in Florida) or a gratuity paid to someone for the research effort. I should say Milwaukee is not alone in this. But, I do not understand how a state like California can put their Death and Birth information online..........even with their new legislation trying to curb criminals from getting information for "Identity Theft". I also remember Minnesota being very good with online information. Hmmmm, beginning to sound like a b _ _ _ h session. Random Acts of Kindness Volunteers are really good at this sort of thing but it is tough to keep asking. Online volunteers are good also, but it is tough to also keep asking. And..........I guess bottom line is that you need volunteers to get this information online to begin with as I have gotten a taste of through the ALHN/Clark County site. So, if there are online search sites for the other cemeteries of Milwaukee County, I would like the URL's.......... Regards, Robert Lipprandt > Thank you Robert Lipprant!!! > > You wrote: > > If you suspect that your ancestor was buried in a Catholic cemetery in > > Milwaukee, try www.cemeteries.org, a good searchable source for > > transcriptions.<<

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: Messerschmidt Date: 10/25/2002 4:51:07 AM Central Daylight Time From: leopat@iland.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Looking for anyone related to my MESSERSCHMIDT families. There were 4 brothers who came to U.S. in 1873 with their parents, Ferdinand & Louise. Ferd. & Louise died in Pella Township, Shawano County. (1) son, Ferdinand: Born 1861 and died 1882 in WI, possibly Shawano County. Have not been able to find death info. (2) Albert: Born 1859 and died 1945 in Anaheim, CA. Wife was Emilie SELL of Shawano Co. (3) Gustav: Born 1858 and died 1945 in WI, possibly near Merrill, Lincoln Co. OR in/near Oconto. Wife was Elsie GEHRKE from Oconto Co. (4) William: Born 1860, Died 1915 in Pella, Shawano Co. Wife #1 was Matilde Zimdars (1862-1889). Wife #2 was Fredricke KRUEGER (1864-1906), mother of 8 children. Wife # 3 was Helene Fiker Adams (1875-1942) She had 3 children from her first marriage (Ludwig Adams) and had 3 more with William Messerschmidt. Please email me privately if you have any information on any of these people. Thanks. Pat leopat@iland.net<<

Thank you Robert Lipprant!!! You wrote: > If you suspect that your ancestor was buried in a Catholic cemetery in > Milwaukee, try www.cemeteries.org, a good searchable source for > transcriptions.<< I found Edmund & Lizzie Laessig and others not sure where they fit, in this cemetery! Thank YOU so much for this information. You also mentioned that most of Milw. info is accessible only through 'paid' sites... is that why I can't find anything on the county websites in that area? I'm new to Milwaukee search...and it is $%^&*(%^*&* ruff! What paid sites? Patti Laessig anaquea@dwave.net

Several German recipes have just been added to the Ancestral Recipes page for anyone interested. I will soon be adding a connecting page since this one is getting long........ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/anc-recipes.htm Rooting for the past --Kathie Thunder is good. Thunder is impressive. But it's the lightning does the work. ~Mark Twain

Need some help. I would like to compile all the the descendants of Edmund Laessig & Elizabeth 'Lizzie' Burkart. If anyone recognizes any of these families, please get in touch with me. I'd be happy to exchange information. -------------------------------- Generation No. 1 1. EDMUND1 LAESSIG was born August 02, 1888, and died April 18, 1961. He married ELIZABETH BURKART February 03, 1910 in Stratford, WI. She was born October 02, 1890, and died April 28, 1959. Notes for EDMUND LAESSIG: Marathon County Marriage record: Vol. No. 18, p. 26, cert. #26 Edmund Laessig, town of Eau Pleine, Age 22, birthplace WI, Single, first marrige. Occupation: Laborer Father: Ed Lessig born Saxony Mother: Amelia Frick born Germany wife: Elizabeth Burkart Rock (first husband Joseph Rock) village of Stratford age 20 birthplace WI windowed: second marriage Children of EDMUND LAESSIG and ELIZABETH BURKART are: i. KENNETH2 LAESSIG. ii. AGNES LAESSIG, b. Wausau, WI. AGNES LAESSIG (EDMUND1) was born in Wausau, WI. She married JOSEPH PETER TREUER. He was born March 22, 1922, and died June 02, 1998 in Milwaukee, WI. iii. GERTRUDE LAESSIG. iv. YVONNE LAESSIG. v. FLORENCE LAESSIG. vi. GILBERT LAESSIG, m. IVONNE H. FOREST; d. May 08, 2000. Notes for IVONNE H. FOREST: Milwaukee Journal Laessig, Ivonne H. "Sis" Publication Date: May 10, 2000 (Nee Forest) May 8, 2000, age 72 years. Beloved wife of Gilbert. Dear mother of Sandy (Joe) Baum, Bobbie Gaffke, Joanie (Jerry) Lynch, Dick (Judy) Laessig, Bob (Cathy) Laessig and Ronnie Laessig. Also survived by grandchildren, great-grandchildren, brothers, sisters, other relatives and friends. Interment Highland Memorial Park. SKUBAL-SLATTERY-KOELSCH-LARSEN 7626 W. Greenfield Ave. vii. ELIZABETH LAESSIG. viii. VIOLA A. LAESSIG, b. November 26, 1910, Stratford, Marathon Co., WI. ix. RAYMOND H. LAESSIG, b. July 27, 1913; d. January 27, 1980, Milwaukee, WI. Notes for RAYMOND H. LAESSIG: Birth certificate No. 23 Death date from SS records SS#397-01-3305 The Stratford Journal Friday, Nov. 21, 1919 Local Events Raymond Laessig, the six-year-old son of Mr. and Mrs. Edmond Laessig, was taken to the St. Joseph's hospital at Marshfield last week Thursday where he will receive treatment for Eczema . His father and uncle, Hubert, went down to spend Saturday with him. ---------------------------------- The Stratford Journal Friday, Nov. 28, 1919 Local Events Little Raymond, son of Mr. and Mrs. Edmund Laessig, who has been at the hospital at Marshfiel d several days last week returned home last week Wednesday. After being home a few days his condition was so that he had to return again Saturday. Mrs. Laessig will remain there with him until he is able to come home. ======================================================================= More About RAYMOND H. LAESSIG: Burial: January 30, 1980, Wood National Cem., Milwaukee, Milw. Co., WI Record Change: September 13, 2002 x. MAURICE LAESSIG, b. June 13, 1916; d. January 01, 1990. >From the Virtual Cemetery listing of Wood National Cemetery, Milwaukee, Milwaukee Co., WI Maurice H. Laessig was born June 13, 1916 and died January 1, 1990, US Army, SGT, Res: West Alli s, WI -------------------------------------------------------------- I would appreciate any help in filling in the spouses and children of the descendants of Edmund & Lizzie. Patti Laessig anaquea@dwave.net

There are many Hanneman/Hannemann farm families listed in the 1930 Atlas and Farmers' Directory of Marathon Co. WI. It is a large 12 x 16" x3/4" thick book with a RED cover published by "The Farmer: The Northwest's Only Weekly Farm paper out of St. Paul, MN". Patti Laessig anaquea@dwave.net

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: Re: [GERMANS-WI] Re: Cemetery transcriptions -Fwd. by L.Admin.>From: schuh@att.net Date: 10/24/2002 9:46:51 AM Central Daylight Time From: schuh@att.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Actually, I wrote that previous message incorrectly. I meant to say that I have some people who do NOT have specific locations within the cemetary and I'm wondering if that has any significance. Also, several people have the same dates listed as death date and burial date. Do you think this is a mistake? Thanks, Tracy<<

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: Re: [GERMANS-WI] Re: Cemetery transcriptions - Forwarded by List Admin. From: margnikkhah@yahoo.c Date: 10/24/2002 9:13:48 AM Central Daylight Time From: schuh@att.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) What a great site! I found a lot of useful information, notably their last address. As an example, a man who is said to have lived apart from his wife (although they never divorced) is listed as living in the Hotel Martin. Makes sense. Anyway, I have several people that contain an exact location within the cemetary. Am I to read anything into that or is it just a limitation of that particular entry? Tracy<<

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Re: [GERMANS-WI] Re: Cemetery transcriptions - Milwaukee County Date: 10/24/2002 7:24:56 AM Central Daylight Time From: rloss@bellsouth.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) I have used the URL below before and have had good, solid leads with it. My question.........is also another URL or Milwaukee County Cemetery listing(s) for the other's that are in Milwaukee County? It would be even more impressive if that listing were searchable via the Internet or is everything in Milwaukee County just about "pay per view". Regards, Robert Lipprandt > If you suspect that your ancestor was buried in a Catholic cemetery in > Milwaukee, try www.cemeteries.org, a good searchable source for > transcriptions.<<

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Re: Cemetery transcriptions Date: 10/23/2002 11:12:05 PM Central Daylight Time From: margnikkhah@yahoo.com To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Yes, the transcriptions are a good guide. But, as with any secondary source, use these transcriptions with caution and only as a guide. I know of mistakes with at least two transcriptions for my ancestors. After finding your ancestor try to go to the original source if at all possible, in this case the cemetery stones themselves. However, some of the older stones have since disappeared in one way or another (either badly faded, broken, or literally gone), and then you are left with the transcription only. Another place to check after you locate where your ancestor is buried, is the cemetery records. Unfortunately these usually are scanty. These records might include who paid for the original plot, perhaps a transfer of plots, probably *not* who is buried where or when. And don't expect an office. Sometimes they are kept in the homes of the people in charge of those cemeteries (in some cases the descendents of the original landowner). The local churches should be able to tell you who to contact. After sometime in the 1920's burial permits were required and these permits were to be kept by the person in charge of the cemetery. Info often included (depending on location and year) was full name, deathplace, age, cause of death, funeral director. If you suspect that your ancestor was buried in a Catholic cemetery in Milwaukee, try www.cemeteries.org, a good searchable source for transcriptions. It often includes last address and marital status. I don't know if funeral homes can provide further information. Margaret ===== > From: Maramun@aol.com on Wed, 23 Oct 2002 > > Cemetery transcribing is one of the most common genealogical society > activities in WI. Most cemeteries in Fond du Lac, Calumet, > Manitowoc, all in > Brown County, all the rural cemeteries in Winnebago County are > copied. Much > of this work was done and typed up for use in the local > libraries/historical ....>>

HAUBRICH and KAZ families from Daaden area of Germany to Wisconsin in the 1890s. Settled in Kenosha. GEISLER family from NY to Manitowoc. Also have Bohemian names of KOHOUT and KOEPKE - settled in Manitowoc also. What Rootsweb site would I use for Bohemian surname? Joan

Forwarded by List Admin. >>Subj: Clark>Manitowoc>Sheboygan Counties Date: 10/23/2002 4:56:21 PM Central Daylight Time From: rloss@bellsouth.net To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) Information being sought for the following: Friedrich Karl (aka Carl or Charles) SCHULTE 1st spouse: Louisa Elisabeth geb. BUSCHER Township of Herman, Sheboygan County (circa 1855-1879) surnames of children: ALTENBERGER, DOMER, ENGEL, JANING, KLINGBEIL, ORTH and SCHULTE. Friedrich Karl (aka Carl or Charles) SCHULTE 2nd spouse: Adelia Ida geb. HAMANN Township of Herman, Sheboygan County (circa 1874-1879) Township of Colby, Clark County (circa 1879-1925) surnames of children: AWE, BUCHHOLZ, EHREND, LIPPRANDT, ZUMACH and SCHULTE. Friedrich Robert (aka Robert) SCHULTE Spouse: Lissette geb. FLICK Township of Herman, Sheboygan County (circa 1860-?) Village of Franklin, Sheboygan County (circa 1879-?) surnames of children: BOYAT(T), REEME, SCHULTZ, SCHULZ and SCHULTE. Gottlieb Karl (aka Carl or Charles) HAMANN Spouse: Christianna Henriette geb. HUHN Township of Centreville, Manitowoc County (circa 1848-?) Township of Mosel, Sheboygan County (circa ?) surnames of children: GROELLE (GRÖLLE) HAMANN, SCHULTE, SCHLUENZ and WIMMLER. Regards, Robert Lipprandt<<

FORWARDED BY LIST ADMIN. FRITZ family lost in WI? Date: 10/23/2002 4:01:16 PM Central Daylight Time From: Jrwojcik13@aol.com To: GERMANS-WI-L@rootsweb.com Sent from the Internet (Details) This FRITZ family arrived in New York Harbor on July 26, 1843 aboard the ship ARGO out of Le Harve. Michael FRITZ age 38 (b. 1805) Franjisca age 40 (b 1803) Johan age 16 (b 1827) Lorenz afe 8 (b 1835) Maria age 7 (b 1836) Catherina age 3 (b 1840) Maria CASPAR age 18 (b 1825) Is she a relative? friend? Agnes age 18 (b 1825) Margaretha age 22 (b 1821) ******** My gg grandmother. All of "France",but this was a German family. I assume Alsace--They spoke German or perhaps Alsatian. This is the order in which they appear on the ship's manifest list. I don't know how Maria CASPAR fits into the picture. The family arrived in the Buffalo,NY area where Margaretha married Jacob ROSE (originally ROOS) in 1844 who was originally from Riedseltz, Alsace. Family story says the rest of the FRITZ family "went west after the lakes-the Great Lakes- thawed." Did they end up in WI? What happened to the rest of the family? US? Canada? I've been looking for more than 20 years. They just disappear. Does anyone have a possible link to this family? Do any of the children show up in your family tree? Where were they from in "France"/Ger/Alsace? Maybe if I could find the town I could pick up some other clues to follow. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jann WOJCIK JRWojcik13@aol.com Always digging for my roots, Kathie Harrison Lancaster Co. Coordinator, NEGenWeb Project http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishrose/lancindex.html To understand the living you must commune with the dead.

Cemetery transcribing is one of the most common genealogical society activities in WI. Most cemeteries in Fond du Lac, Calumet, Manitowoc, all in Brown County, all the rural cemeteries in Winnebago County are copied. Much of this work was done and typed up for use in the local libraries/historical societies lo-o-o-o-o-g before there was a web to post it on. You may need to write an old-fashioned letter! If you do, tell WHO you are looking for specifically (it may not seem like a common name where you live now, but it might be around the old home area), WHERE in the county they lived (where they were listed in the census, family story, whatever), roughly WHEN (as in, alive at age __ in the 1880 census--remember we've got 150+ years to cover), and what religion if you know it. Catholic cemeteries were almost always separate, or at least a separate section. If you aren't sure but have the name of a pastor who performed a marriage, say "may have been whatever cemetery would have been most used by the congregation which was served by Pastor _____ in (year of marriage)." Or, "later generations were buried in _____." Whatever you know that might narrow the hunt. The easier you make it for the recipient to answer, the more likely you are to get a prompt reply! Here's a list of cemeteries in Calumet County with some transcriptions: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~calumet/ccem.htm Here's a list of cemeteries in Fond du Lac County with some transcriptions: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wifonddu/resources/cemindex2.htm

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