In a message dated 4/11/2004 11:06:43 AM Central Daylight Time, kimbuc4@juno.com writes: Raithel, Dr. G.H. 50 Hi Bill, I would be interested in receiving the above photo also. The Raithel family is in my Schneider Family line. Thanks again Carol McKay A tree will whither if no one tends to the roots...

Hi Bill, Just a thought but if you don't hear from relatives, perhaps you could contribute it to the Masonic order. Best, Lynne ----- Original Message ----- From: <kimbuc4@juno.com> To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 8:21 AM Subject: [Germans-STL] Rescued Photos 121 - 160 > This is actually the 4th mailing of these photos and covers #121 through > #160 > > Have had 3 requests, haven't heard back from the requesters as to if they > are connected or not. > > Bill Buchholz > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > /// > > Axline,Dr. M.A.39 > Bestor,H. Paul39 > Carroll,J.P.38 > Coleman,Clarence D.32 > Collins,F.A.31 > Cornelius,L.S.33Photo mailed to Grandson Anthony Layton > Crain, W.C.31 > Cranshaw,D. John W.31 > Dambacker,Joseph39 > Duetell,Edward35 > Epstein,Fred32 > Fay,H.E.33 > Fay,E.A.34 > Fluckey,Lloyd A.36 > Fritzinger,Adam32 > Godfrey,Dr. G.B.38 > Hallback,O.H.34 > Hilbert,Louis H.J.36 > Knierim,J.E.38 > Krueger,Edw. L.40 > Levy,Maurice32 > Linberg,Chas. J.35 > Lorch,E.W.38 > Martin,Julius40 > McNail,Hubert35 > Meier,Chas. F.37 > Meier,R.H.40 > Morgan, Arthur L.39 > Parker,Dr. F.P.40 > Pitts,R.P.33 > Reinert,F.A.34 > Rodefeld,August H.37 > Seifert,Victor37 > Sewell,J.D.31 > Singleton,Seth36 > Spathelf,D.E.37 > Stretch,Clyde R.35 > Vollmer,E.34 > Westlake,Louis C.36 > Winkelman,R.B.33 > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. For further information about Viruses, Trojans, Worms etc., go please to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I posted something quite close to following with my first mailing. It has been suggested that I include this with each posting. I have been able rescue a Photo Album of Members of St. Louis Chapter #8, Royal Arch Masons of the York Rite of the State of Missouri. Many of these men were also members of Moolah Shrine, Scottish Rite Masons and Alhambra Grotto, as well as all of the other Masonic Groups. I will post these in 40 photo increments, please don't ask me to check for a specific name until I post it. Provide the page number as well as the name. There are 464 photographs in this album, Photographer Ashen - Brenner Studios, 820 North Grand Blvd. St. Louis, Missouri Each photo is a 3.5 x 5.5 Sepia Tone, about 95 percent are in excellent condition. Best guess on the year is between 1920 and 1940 Yours for Postage and Handling, Please contact me off list for details. Bill ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////////////////////////////// Bethge, Fred C. 48 Booker, Edgar D. 46 Bourgeois, Leon V. 47 Briscoe, Phil E. 50 Burns, Dr. Robert 43 Cannings, F.E. 48 Dietz, George J. 43 Duchek, Joseph F., Jr. 50 Dunn, William H., Jr. 48 Ellis, Frank R. 41 Fausek, A.J. 44 Fredeking, R.M. 47 Geisz, G.G. 41 Grimm, J. Hugo 42 Hawken, E.W. 46 Henderson, E.B. 43 Hengelsberg, I.F. 44 Henry, C.L. 47 Herrmann, J. Peter 45 Hogan, C.N. 45 James, W.M. 48 Johnson, Earl M. 43 Kelliher, W.B., Jr. 42 Keuthan, Elmer A. 46 Kratky, V.J. 49 Kusmer, Max 42 Lasar, Edw. F. 44 Lavoo, R.E. 47 Lucas, Robert J. 50 McCormick, Andrew 45 McHenry, P. W. 42 Minier, W.J. 44 Nazro, Paul 41 Peters, W.L. 46 Raithel, Dr. G.H. 50 Schaefer, Walter J. 49 Scott, William A. 41 Steininger, Edw. A. 45 Tisdale, J.Y. 49 Wilder, John R. 49 Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN

Hi Bill, Finally found someone on your lists. I think it is so thoughtful of you to post these and to have rescued those photos. Hubert McNail p35. He is in my McNail family line. He is the son of Dallas E McNail, my GGrandfather. Would love to have that photo. Carol McKay 86 Adventura Dr. Festus, MO 63028 Thanks a lot, Carol A tree will whither if no one tends to the roots...

Hi Bill, Finally found someone on your lists. I think it is so thoughtful of you to post these and to have rescued those photos. Hubert McNail p35. He is in my McNail family line. He is the son of Dallas E McNail, my GGrandfather. Would love to have that photo. Carol McKay 86 Adventura Dr. Festus, MO 63028 Thanks a lot, Carol

Hi, I am looking for someone who can tell me where / what the precincts or smallest registering districts are for St. Louis City to find relation on the 1910 census. I can not just go in and hunt by name, I need to know the ward or whatever... If anyone can help, I'll give out the addresses I have. Thanks, Ruth in IL

This is actually the 4th mailing of these photos and covers #121 through #160 Have had 3 requests, haven't heard back from the requesters as to if they are connected or not. Bill Buchholz ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// Axline,Dr. M.A.39 Bestor,H. Paul39 Carroll,J.P.38 Coleman,Clarence D.32 Collins,F.A.31 Cornelius,L.S.33Photo mailed to Grandson Anthony Layton Crain, W.C.31 Cranshaw,D. John W.31 Dambacker,Joseph39 Duetell,Edward35 Epstein,Fred32 Fay,H.E.33 Fay,E.A.34 Fluckey,Lloyd A.36 Fritzinger,Adam32 Godfrey,Dr. G.B.38 Hallback,O.H.34 Hilbert,Louis H.J.36 Knierim,J.E.38 Krueger,Edw. L.40 Levy,Maurice32 Linberg,Chas. J.35 Lorch,E.W.38 Martin,Julius40 McNail,Hubert35 Meier,Chas. F.37 Meier,R.H.40 Morgan, Arthur L.39 Parker,Dr. F.P.40 Pitts,R.P.33 Reinert,F.A.34 Rodefeld,August H.37 Seifert,Victor37 Sewell,J.D.31 Singleton,Seth36 Spathelf,D.E.37 Stretch,Clyde R.35 Vollmer,E.34 Westlake,Louis C.36 Winkelman,R.B.33

There was more than one telephone company in St. Louis. In some records that my grandmother had the phone numbers in St. Louis were give as Kinloch or Bell. Businesses had two numbers. So I would think she was visiting at the Kinloch phone company office. I do not know where it was located. Laura > [Original Message] > From: <LuvKUHawks@aol.com> > To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/9/2004 2:46:36 PM > Subject: [Germans-STL] Kinloch office > > I have come across the 1905 diary of my grandmother, Helena Gaul Weitz, who > was born in St. Louis, MO, in 1880, and lived there until about 1912. She was > married to William Weitz, in 1905, also born in St. Louis. > In this diary, she occasionally mentions going downtown (St. Louis) and > visiting in the Kimloch office. Could anyone please tell me what that might be and > if it is still existing? Also, I recall my mother's telling me that my > grandmother worked sometime before her marriage as a telephone operator. If so, > would that possibly be the "Kimloch office"? > Thank you in advance for any help. I will probably have other questions as I > continue through the diary. > Frances > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. For further information about Viruses, Trojans, Worms etc., go please to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Just re-read your message and realized that she went downtown to visit this office. In that case my interpretation would not make sense, as Kinloch is a suburb just north of the city. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Roy Johnson [mailto:roy.w.johnson@att.net] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 5:15 PM To: GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [Germans-STL] Kinloch office I suggest that the Kinloch suburb of St. Louis may have once had a telephone exchange. That is the most probable source of this reference. Roy Johnson Researching Schnake/Schnake in Kreis Minden, Westfalen and worldwide http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~schnake -----Original Message----- From: LuvKUHawks@aol.com [mailto:LuvKUHawks@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 2:47 PM To: GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Germans-STL] Kinloch office I have come across the 1905 diary of my grandmother, Helena Gaul Weitz, who was born in St. Louis, MO, in 1880, and lived there until about 1912. She was married to William Weitz, in 1905, also born in St. Louis. In this diary, she occasionally mentions going downtown (St. Louis) and visiting in the Kimloch office. Could anyone please tell me what that might be and if it is still existing? Also, I recall my mother's telling me that my grandmother worked sometime before her marriage as a telephone operator. If so, would that possibly be the "Kimloch office"? Thank you in advance for any help. I will probably have other questions as I continue through the diary. Frances ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. For further information about Viruses, Trojans, Worms etc., go please to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== LATIN-WORDS-L is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical or historical interest in deciphering and interpreting written documents in Latin from earliest to most recent 20th Century times, and discussing old Latin words, phrases, names, abbreviations and antique jargon. To subscribe, send subscribe to mailto:LATIN-WORDS-L-request@rootsweb.com (Mail Mode) or mailto:LATIN-WORDS-D-request@rootsweb.com (Digest Mode) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I suggest that the Kinloch suburb of St. Louis may have once had a telephone exchange. That is the most probable source of this reference. Roy Johnson Researching Schnake/Schnake in Kreis Minden, Westfalen and worldwide http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~schnake -----Original Message----- From: LuvKUHawks@aol.com [mailto:LuvKUHawks@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 2:47 PM To: GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Germans-STL] Kinloch office I have come across the 1905 diary of my grandmother, Helena Gaul Weitz, who was born in St. Louis, MO, in 1880, and lived there until about 1912. She was married to William Weitz, in 1905, also born in St. Louis. In this diary, she occasionally mentions going downtown (St. Louis) and visiting in the Kimloch office. Could anyone please tell me what that might be and if it is still existing? Also, I recall my mother's telling me that my grandmother worked sometime before her marriage as a telephone operator. If so, would that possibly be the "Kimloch office"? Thank you in advance for any help. I will probably have other questions as I continue through the diary. Frances ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. For further information about Viruses, Trojans, Worms etc., go please to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

I have come across the 1905 diary of my grandmother, Helena Gaul Weitz, who was born in St. Louis, MO, in 1880, and lived there until about 1912. She was married to William Weitz, in 1905, also born in St. Louis. In this diary, she occasionally mentions going downtown (St. Louis) and visiting in the Kimloch office. Could anyone please tell me what that might be and if it is still existing? Also, I recall my mother's telling me that my grandmother worked sometime before her marriage as a telephone operator. If so, would that possibly be the "Kimloch office"? Thank you in advance for any help. I will probably have other questions as I continue through the diary. Frances

This is the second increment individual photos St. Louis Chapter RAM #8 In your note of interest please state Page No. Achuff,W.D.29 Barking,F.W.21 Bittner,Joseph28 Brinkman,E.P.26 Carson,Gibbon W.29 Cowles,E.E.27 Crecelius,J.L.27 Deibel,George W.30 Diesing,Victor26 Dunsford,Richard30 GreinWilliam E.23 Harris,S.W.30 Heim,Fred J.25 Hirt,C.G.30 Hopkins,T.A.25 Jacobsen, A.J.21 Kaltwasser,William L.28 Kiburz,Jno. F.24 Kieselhorst,E.A.24 Kleberger,William21 Kohn,Louis21 Lange,August23 Lewin,Dr. William A.29 Meckfessel,A.F.23 Metcalf,R.B.27 Neal,William H.24 Newby,C. W.26 Nolte,E.H.22 Nolte,Elbert22 Nolte,George F.22 Nolte,Theo H.22 Pearson,Edwin25 Rosebrough,C.A.26 Rung,John J.23 Scheiner,Samuel25 Schuyler,H.C.27 Smith,C.N.29 Stiehl,George W.28 Stock,H.E.24 Woods,W.K.28 Bill

St. Louis, Missouri Marriages, 1804-76 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Personal Information Name: John Baker Spouse: Henriette, Mrs Ralf Marriage Date: 20 July 1865 Volume/Page: 12-090 Source Information: St. Louis Genealogical Society, comp. St. Louis, Missouri Marriages, 1804-76. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original data: St. Louis Genealogical Society. St. Louis Marriage Index, 1804-76. St. Louis, MO: St. Louis Genealogical Society, 1999. ===================================== St. Louis City Death Records, 1850-1908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Death Date Birth Place Cemetery Address Mamie Ralf 08 Jun 1884 16th/17th/garibaldi & Bremen Mark Ralf 15 Dec 1872 Gravois Coal Mine Wilhelm Ralf 24 May 1881 St Louis Mo Holy Trinity 16th & Garibaldi Source Information: St. Louis Genealogical Society, comp. St. Louis City Death Records, 1850-1908. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Original data: St. Louis Genealogical ------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------- Civil War (below) Name: Charles G. Ralf Company: K Unit: 6 Missouri Infantry. Rank - Induction: Private Rank - Discharge: Private Allegiance: Confederate Notes: Rolph Charles Civil War Service Records -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Personal Information Name: Frederick Ralf Company: L Unit: 1 Mo. L. Art'y. Rank - Induction: Private Rank - Discharge: Private Allegiance: Union Notes: Ralf Frederick Good hunting Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ ---- Original Message ----- From: <Windrift17@aol.com> To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [Germans-STL] Fuechteman(n) and Lembeck > Sorry I meant to respond off line in my previous e-mail. > > Surnames researching in St.Louis: BLOMS, BRUNKER, ELLERBRACH, FUCHTEMANN, > RALF, LEMBECK, MOHRMANN > > Thank you Peggy N. > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > LATIN-WORDS-L is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical or historical interest in deciphering and interpreting written documents in Latin from earliest to most recent 20th Century times, and discussing old Latin words, phrases, names, abbreviations and antique jargon. To subscribe, send subscribe to mailto:LATIN-WORDS-L-request@rootsweb.com (Mail Mode) or mailto:LATIN-WORDS-D-request@rootsweb.com (Digest Mode) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

This is the second increment individual photos St. Louis Chapter RAM #8 In your note of interest please state Page No. Surname Given Name Page AbbeyJ.J.M.11 AbbottE.S.14 AhlheimWalter Ludwig19 AndreasGus H.J.16 AufderheideEdward F.11 BellClyde H.11 BloomC.G.16 BohringerGeorge18 BonifaceW.R.16 BoogherLawrence13 BrewsterLouis11 CarrRobert C.13 ConoverF.C.17 CornwallAndrew A.14 CraigI. Newton14 CramerM.W.17 DoudJohn V.13 DupuyJohn B.15 EpsteinJoseph19 EvansC.E.12 FreundB.18 GelzheuserL.B.14 GoormanAugust12 GoreO.H.15Some Water Damage GrosseWilliam19 HallahanT.J.18 HarbaughC.M.18 KeithC.M.20 MalloryO.K.20 NiehausWilliam F.20 OlsonH.E.20 PfeifeerWilliam G.12Some Water Damage SchaeferWilliam A.19 SchisterW.M.16 SchwendenerAugust17 SreibFrederick H.12 Von GundenEsward F.13Some Water Damage WhippleW.L.17 WiersmuellerWilliam15 WilsonWilliam S.15 Bill Buchholz Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN

Sorry I meant to respond off line in my previous e-mail. Surnames researching in St.Louis: BLOMS, BRUNKER, ELLERBRACH, FUCHTEMANN, RALF, LEMBECK, MOHRMANN Thank you Peggy N.

When I re-read you other email I realized you meant St.Louis -- There were several brothers and one maybe 2 sisters (LEMBECK) who immigrated to St.Louis in the 1850's from Hanover. My mother and father moved from St.Louis in the 1960's with my brothers and sisters so we do not see our cousins often. I am not sure which cousin you are refering to, but it was my uncle Bill Lembeck who got me started with this "hobby" in 1977 when my husband and I were living in Columbia Mo. Thank you for responding to my querry. Hoping to hear from you. Peggy Nicastro -- Virginia

I am looking for any information about the Weckherlin family in St. Louis. They moved to Hermann around 1848 and one of them served in the Civil War as captain, Benton Hussars. Andrew

Had a typo in the list I sent this morning. Here's the corrected list, I will post these in 40 photo increments, please don't ask me to check for a specific name until I post it. Provide the page number as well as the name. There are 464 photographs in this album, Photographer Ashhen - Brenner Studios, 820 North Grand Blvd. St. Louis, Missouri Each photo is a 3.5 x 5.5 Sepia Tone, about 95 percent are in excellent condition. Best guess on the year is between 1920 and 1940 These men were members of St. Louis Chapter No. 8, Royal Arch Masons, many of them were also members of Moolah Shrine, or other Masonic Organizations. Yours for Postage and Handling, Please contact me off list for details. I will post the names in 40 name increments. Surname Given Name Page AffJ. Geo4 AllenA.J.5 AngusGeorge W.4 AnsonTracy E.2 BabbittB.F.4 BeckmanJohn F.9 BelkeG.H.2 BittnerA.G.2 BleitnerHenry J.3 BootsmaHenry J.5 BrimWilliam D.7 ClarkWilliam T.3 DieckmanOtto H.9 DodgeM.H.1 DoepkeGeorge 8 EsslingerEmil O.2 FrisbyLee7 GoodenoughPercy R.7 GossrauO.J.7 GrimmGeorge10 HagueJohn10 HarrisF.L.10 HirschH.A.4 HoltzEdward D.1 JacobsonMax8 JamisonIrl9 KrantzWilliam M.1 McGuireN.L.8 MeineG.A.5 OberwinderJacob6 OwenSilas M. 8 SchuenemannL.F.10 SloanG.G9 ThornburghR.S.3 VaterW.D.6 VollandVictor H.6 Von RohrHenry 5 WatlingA.J.1 WhitneyE.E.6 WolzFlorian3 Bill Buchholz Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN

I am trying to reach Peggy N. at windrift17@aol.com. Thinking her aol screening is keeping my e-mail from going through to her since I am not in her address book I am sending this to the list in hope she will see it. She mentioned these names in her e-mail entitled German emmigration list. My grandmother's sister Margaret Hagner married Theodore Fuechteman in St. Louis county in 1896 and I have pictures to share with her of their children. Also a fellow churchmember here in kansas married into the Lembeck family of St. Ann's church in Normandy where the Lembeck family has long been a member. I think she may be able to provide you with information. If these are your relatives please contact me. I am sorry to take up the time of the list members but it would be regretable if these pictures did not find their way to their family. Mary Ann

I have just managed to save a photo album from the trash heap There are 464 photographs in this album, Photographer Ashhen - Brenner Studios, 820 North Grand Blvd. St. Louis, Missouri Each photo is a 3.5 x 5.5 Sepia Tone, about 95 percent are in excellent condition. Best guess on the year is between 1920 and 1940 These men were members of St. Louis Chapter No. 8, Royal Arch Masons, many of them were also members of Moolah Shrine, or other Masonic Organizations. Yours for Postage and Handling, Please contact me off list for details. I will post the names in 40 name increments. Surname Given Name Page AffJ. Geo4 AllenA.J.5 AngusGeorge W.4 AnsonTracy E.2 BabbittB.F.4 BeckmanJohn F.9 BelkeG.H.2 BittnerA.G.2 BleitnerHenry J.3 BootsmaHenry J.5 BrimWilliam D.7 ClarkWilliam T.3 DieckmanOtto H.9 DodgeM.H.1 DoepkeGeorge 8 EsslingerEmil O.2 FrisbyLee7 GoodenoughPercy R.7 GossrauO.J.7 GrimmGeorge10 HagueJohn10 HarrisF.L.10 HirschH.A.4 HoltzEdward D.1 JacobsonMax8 JamisonIrl9 KrantzWilliam M.1 McGuireN.L.8 MelineG.A.5 OberwinderJacob6 OwenSilas M. 8 SchuenemannL.F.10 SloanG.G9 ThornburghR.S.3 VaterW.D.6 VollandVictor H.6 Von RohrHenry 5 WatlingA.J.1 WhitneyE.E.6 WolzFlorian3 Bill Buchholz Surnames of Interest: BUCHHOLZ anywhere -BECKMANN-CASSIDY-DeL0NJAY-DREES-MOSBACHER-NENTWIG-NEUTZLER-PONCOT-RENSIN G-STAUDER-STIEFFERMANN