Would you (or anyone else on this list) happen to know who the musician was in the World's Fair in St. Louis who played the mandolin? My g grandfather was musically inspired by someone who was at the fair and I don't know who it was...supposedly someone well known. Mandolin playing has been passed down in my family since then (although I'm not any good at it - my Dad sure was!) Marian

Hi Fellow Listers: I recently found some information on my son-in-law's Brinker family and would like to be able to add to it if possible with some help you all out there. How can I find the death records/obituaries of John Bernard Brinker who died 14 Mar 1930 and his wife Agnes (Weiss) who died 7 Dec 1935--both in St. Louis? I am also looking for the death record of Baltasar/Balthazar Brinker b. 1808 in Germany and died 1872 in St. Louis. Do these records exist? If someone died in the 1849 cholera epidemic would there be death records for them also? Baltasar's first wife Catherine (Tepe) died 12 Jul 1849 in that epidemic. Thanking you all in advance for your help. Janice Connell El Paso, TX

here's one http://washingtonmo.com/1904/ Laurel Treat www.laureltreat.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <roy.w.johnson@att.net> To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:54 PM Subject: RE: [Germans-STL] 1903 & 1905 St. Louis > For a whole bunch of URLs about the World's Fair go to > http://emints.more.net/ethemes/resources/S00000028.shtml > > I think many of them are for teachers teaching about the fair but they > look very informative. > > Lots of stuff on the fair can be found by a google search. > > Roy Johnson > Researching Schnake/Schnacke in Kreis Minden (Westfalen/Westphalia) and > worldwide > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~schnake > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emily Nottingham [mailto:GabeBen1@cox.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:14 PM > To: GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Germans-STL] 1903 & 1905 St. Louis > > Thanks. I had been wondering when the St. Louis world's fair was. My > grandmother had told me she had returned to St. Louis for the fair as a > youngster, but couldn't remember the year. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <LuvKUHawks@aol.com> > To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:40 PM > Subject: [Germans-STL] 1903 & 1905 St. Louis > > > > I don't know if anyone would be interested in any of this or if it is > even > > appropriate to post this. > > I found a 1903 diary in which my grandfather recorded two months of > entries, > > and the 1905 diary that my grandmother kept. Several of you have > helped > to > > track down the Kinloch office mentioned in Grandma's diary. I have > taken > notes > > on some places and thought perhaps some of you might find them of > interest. > > My grandparents were William and Helena Gaul Weitz, who were married > in > St. > > Louis in 1905. > > > > 1903: "the Columbia" to a show > > Castle Square (I can't tell if this is a place or a performing group. > My > > grandparents saw several different operas there or performed by the > group) > > a dance at "the Benton" > > Mrs. Beucky's/Beuky's Dancing School > > Jim's Minstrel Show > > "the Century" > > Ellery's Band at the Music Hall > > a James O'Neill show > > > > 1905: > > different shows at "the Highlands" > > Compton Hill Church > > to "the Garrick, our new theater" > > the Victor office (my note: I am wondering if this is another > telephone > > company > > office similar to the Kinloch office) > > beautiful music at "the Olympic" > > WCTU meeting at Anchor Hall > > dinner at Besch's Garden > > 8/27/1905 entry - one year ago they went to "the Fair" - the 1904 > World's > > Fair in > > St. Louis > > Grandpa went "to the ball game" (my note - professional baseball > team???) > > to "the Alps" - to the orchestra > > saw a play at "the Odeon" > > Veiled Prophet Parade > > dance at Westminster Hall > > supper at Milford's > > > > Further information on any of these would be of interest. > > Thank you. > > Frances > > > > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A > virus > that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a > RootsWeb > mailing list. For further information about Viruses, Trojans, Worms > etc., go > please to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list click on > mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list > mode) or > mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe > (digest mode) - Contact mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-admin@rootsweb.com for > list related problems. For the GERMANS-STLOUIS-L archives, go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/germans-stlouis. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > OLD-GERMAN-L is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical or historical interest in deciphering and interpreting written documents in German from earliest to most recent 20th Century times, and discussing old German words, phrases, names, abbreviations and antique jargon. To subscribe, send subscribe to mailto:OLD-GERMAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (Mail Mode) or mailto:OLD-GERMAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (Digest Mode) > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hi Frances: I'll take a line. <<Grandpa went "to the ball game" (my note - professional baseball team???)>> Since 1901, St. Louis had two major league baseball teams. The Cardinals and Browns. They both played at Sportsman's Park on North Grand. I'm sure there's plenty on the web - and probably for most of these. In my opinion, the best reference book for StL is "Lion of the Valley" by Primm - available in paperback - Amazon, etc. Have fun - you are lucky to have the diaries. Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: <LuvKUHawks@aol.com> To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:40 PM Subject: [Germans-STL] 1903 & 1905 St. Louis > I don't know if anyone would be interested in any of this or if it is even > appropriate to post this. > I found a 1903 diary in which my grandfather recorded two months of entries, > and the 1905 diary that my grandmother kept. Several of you have helped to > track down the Kinloch office mentioned in Grandma's diary. I have taken notes > on some places and thought perhaps some of you might find them of interest. > My grandparents were William and Helena Gaul Weitz, who were married in St. > Louis in 1905. > > 1903: "the Columbia" to a show > Castle Square (I can't tell if this is a place or a performing group. My > grandparents saw several different operas there or performed by the group) > a dance at "the Benton" > Mrs. Beucky's/Beuky's Dancing School > Jim's Minstrel Show > "the Century" > Ellery's Band at the Music Hall > a James O'Neill show > > 1905: > different shows at "the Highlands" > Compton Hill Church > to "the Garrick, our new theater" > the Victor office (my note: I am wondering if this is another telephone > company > office similar to the Kinloch office) > beautiful music at "the Olympic" > WCTU meeting at Anchor Hall > dinner at Besch's Garden > 8/27/1905 entry - one year ago they went to "the Fair" - the 1904 World's > Fair in > St. Louis > Grandpa went "to the ball game" (my note - professional baseball team???) > to "the Alps" - to the orchestra > saw a play at "the Odeon" > Veiled Prophet Parade > dance at Westminster Hall > supper at Milford's > > Further information on any of these would be of interest. > Thank you. > Frances > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. For further information about Viruses, Trojans, Worms etc., go please to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

For a whole bunch of URLs about the World's Fair go to http://emints.more.net/ethemes/resources/S00000028.shtml I think many of them are for teachers teaching about the fair but they look very informative. Lots of stuff on the fair can be found by a google search. Roy Johnson Researching Schnake/Schnacke in Kreis Minden (Westfalen/Westphalia) and worldwide http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~schnake -----Original Message----- From: Emily Nottingham [mailto:GabeBen1@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 8:14 PM To: GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Germans-STL] 1903 & 1905 St. Louis Thanks. I had been wondering when the St. Louis world's fair was. My grandmother had told me she had returned to St. Louis for the fair as a youngster, but couldn't remember the year. ----- Original Message ----- From: <LuvKUHawks@aol.com> To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:40 PM Subject: [Germans-STL] 1903 & 1905 St. Louis > I don't know if anyone would be interested in any of this or if it is even > appropriate to post this. > I found a 1903 diary in which my grandfather recorded two months of entries, > and the 1905 diary that my grandmother kept. Several of you have helped to > track down the Kinloch office mentioned in Grandma's diary. I have taken notes > on some places and thought perhaps some of you might find them of interest. > My grandparents were William and Helena Gaul Weitz, who were married in St. > Louis in 1905. > > 1903: "the Columbia" to a show > Castle Square (I can't tell if this is a place or a performing group. My > grandparents saw several different operas there or performed by the group) > a dance at "the Benton" > Mrs. Beucky's/Beuky's Dancing School > Jim's Minstrel Show > "the Century" > Ellery's Band at the Music Hall > a James O'Neill show > > 1905: > different shows at "the Highlands" > Compton Hill Church > to "the Garrick, our new theater" > the Victor office (my note: I am wondering if this is another telephone > company > office similar to the Kinloch office) > beautiful music at "the Olympic" > WCTU meeting at Anchor Hall > dinner at Besch's Garden > 8/27/1905 entry - one year ago they went to "the Fair" - the 1904 World's > Fair in > St. Louis > Grandpa went "to the ball game" (my note - professional baseball team???) > to "the Alps" - to the orchestra > saw a play at "the Odeon" > Veiled Prophet Parade > dance at Westminster Hall > supper at Milford's > > Further information on any of these would be of interest. > Thank you. > Frances > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. For further information about Viruses, Trojans, Worms etc., go please to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list click on mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) - Contact mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-admin@rootsweb.com for list related problems. For the GERMANS-STLOUIS-L archives, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/germans-stlouis. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

The Odean was an opera theater. My Grandmother sang there. Besch's Grove I bet is Busch's Grove a restaurnt that recently closed I think the St. Louis Browns may have been a ballteam at that time...will have to check on that. Diaries are a great source of information about the real life your family led. It is a window into the past and shows how active your family was. Great find for you! Laura > [Original Message] > From: <LuvKUHawks@aol.com> > To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 4/27/2004 6:40:55 PM > Subject: [Germans-STL] 1903 & 1905 St. Louis > > I don't know if anyone would be interested in any of this or if it is even > appropriate to post this. > I found a 1903 diary in which my grandfather recorded two months of entries, > and the 1905 diary that my grandmother kept. Several of you have helped to > track down the Kinloch office mentioned in Grandma's diary. I have taken notes > on some places and thought perhaps some of you might find them of interest. > My grandparents were William and Helena Gaul Weitz, who were married in St. > Louis in 1905. > > 1903: "the Columbia" to a show > Castle Square (I can't tell if this is a place or a performing group. My > grandparents saw several different operas there or performed by the group) > a dance at "the Benton" > Mrs. Beucky's/Beuky's Dancing School > Jim's Minstrel Show > "the Century" > Ellery's Band at the Music Hall > a James O'Neill show > > 1905: > different shows at "the Highlands" > Compton Hill Church > to "the Garrick, our new theater" > the Victor office (my note: I am wondering if this is another telephone > company > office similar to the Kinloch office) > beautiful music at "the Olympic" > WCTU meeting at Anchor Hall > dinner at Besch's Garden > 8/27/1905 entry - one year ago they went to "the Fair" - the 1904 World's > Fair in > St. Louis > Grandpa went "to the ball game" (my note - professional baseball team???) > to "the Alps" - to the orchestra > saw a play at "the Odeon" > Veiled Prophet Parade > dance at Westminster Hall > supper at Milford's > > Further information on any of these would be of interest. > Thank you. > Frances > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. For further information about Viruses, Trojans, Worms etc., go please to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

The "Columbia" may have been the Columbia Theater located at the intersection of Southwest Ave and Columbia. Most of the building still stands but belongs to an individual that I believe rehabs buildings. I also think that the Columbia was a vaudeville theater before becoming a movie theater. My grandfather on my mom's side worked there for many years as a union projectionist until he either had a stoke or heart attack while working one night in the booth in 1966. Jeff St. Louis

Very interesting. My grandmother also made notes but was very young at the time. She also mentioned the Fair. She made notes up until the time she died. This has helped a lot with our family history. Donna Kelley Fickenwirth, Kuhl, Herzog

I don't know if anyone would be interested in any of this or if it is even appropriate to post this. I found a 1903 diary in which my grandfather recorded two months of entries, and the 1905 diary that my grandmother kept. Several of you have helped to track down the Kinloch office mentioned in Grandma's diary. I have taken notes on some places and thought perhaps some of you might find them of interest. My grandparents were William and Helena Gaul Weitz, who were married in St. Louis in 1905. 1903: "the Columbia" to a show Castle Square (I can't tell if this is a place or a performing group. My grandparents saw several different operas there or performed by the group) a dance at "the Benton" Mrs. Beucky's/Beuky's Dancing School Jim's Minstrel Show "the Century" Ellery's Band at the Music Hall a James O'Neill show 1905: different shows at "the Highlands" Compton Hill Church to "the Garrick, our new theater" the Victor office (my note: I am wondering if this is another telephone company office similar to the Kinloch office) beautiful music at "the Olympic" WCTU meeting at Anchor Hall dinner at Besch's Garden 8/27/1905 entry - one year ago they went to "the Fair" - the 1904 World's Fair in St. Louis Grandpa went "to the ball game" (my note - professional baseball team???) to "the Alps" - to the orchestra saw a play at "the Odeon" Veiled Prophet Parade dance at Westminster Hall supper at Milford's Further information on any of these would be of interest. Thank you. Frances

Thanks. I had been wondering when the St. Louis world's fair was. My grandmother had told me she had returned to St. Louis for the fair as a youngster, but couldn't remember the year. ----- Original Message ----- From: <LuvKUHawks@aol.com> To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:40 PM Subject: [Germans-STL] 1903 & 1905 St. Louis > I don't know if anyone would be interested in any of this or if it is even > appropriate to post this. > I found a 1903 diary in which my grandfather recorded two months of entries, > and the 1905 diary that my grandmother kept. Several of you have helped to > track down the Kinloch office mentioned in Grandma's diary. I have taken notes > on some places and thought perhaps some of you might find them of interest. > My grandparents were William and Helena Gaul Weitz, who were married in St. > Louis in 1905. > > 1903: "the Columbia" to a show > Castle Square (I can't tell if this is a place or a performing group. My > grandparents saw several different operas there or performed by the group) > a dance at "the Benton" > Mrs. Beucky's/Beuky's Dancing School > Jim's Minstrel Show > "the Century" > Ellery's Band at the Music Hall > a James O'Neill show > > 1905: > different shows at "the Highlands" > Compton Hill Church > to "the Garrick, our new theater" > the Victor office (my note: I am wondering if this is another telephone > company > office similar to the Kinloch office) > beautiful music at "the Olympic" > WCTU meeting at Anchor Hall > dinner at Besch's Garden > 8/27/1905 entry - one year ago they went to "the Fair" - the 1904 World's > Fair in > St. Louis > Grandpa went "to the ball game" (my note - professional baseball team???) > to "the Alps" - to the orchestra > saw a play at "the Odeon" > Veiled Prophet Parade > dance at Westminster Hall > supper at Milford's > > Further information on any of these would be of interest. > Thank you. > Frances > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. For further information about Viruses, Trojans, Worms etc., go please to: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Donna, Would you be related to a Leo Herzog, a butcher, the son of Frank Herzog and Agatha Frieburger Herzog? I have his biographical sketch from the book, "History of the Archdiocese of St. Louis". Kathlyn Goedeker Wieland Goedeker, Wieland, Schott of Apple Creek, Hayden, and Reeder -----Original Message----- From: Dmke512@aol.com [mailto:Dmke512@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:02 PM To: GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Germans-STL] 1903 & 1905 St. Louis Very interesting. My grandmother also made notes but was very young at the time. She also mentioned the Fair. She made notes up until the time she died. This has helped a lot with our family history. Donna Kelley Fickenwirth, Kuhl, Herzog ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list click on mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) - Contact mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-admin@rootsweb.com for list related problems. For the GERMANS-STLOUIS-L archives, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/germans-stlouis. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Fellow Listers! I am helping my son-in-law, Hans Brinker, with his family history and have traced his immigrant ancestor (3ggg) to your area. We are trying to find additional info on the following: Balthazar/Baltasar Brinker b. @1808 OsnabrÜck, Saxony; Came into New Orleans @Jul 1839; d. 1872 in St Louis md #1 Catherine Tepe in Germany. She died of cholera in July 1849 in St Louis. . md#2 Anna Margaretha Roenker Aug 26, 1849 in St Louis One known child: John Burnett Henry Brinker/Johann Bernard Heinrich Brinker. He married Agnes Weiss 7 May 1878 in Wayne County, IN. I would be willing to pay a reasonable search and copy fee for any new information on the above family. Thanking you in advance for anything you can help us with. Sincerely, Janice Connell El Paso, TX

To the Fehlig researchers: I noticed that Theodore Fehlig was the President of the German St. Vincent's Orphan Society in 1889-90. I only noted this as my g-grand Mathias Stoltmann was a Verwaltungsrat (member of the Board of Directors). Ironically, Bob Fehlig was a good friend and grammar-high school mate of mine, three generations later. Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ

Anyone who is interested in information on the THE 2004 55th GREATER ST. LOUIS BOOK FAIR can go to the website below. There is usually a good selection of genealogy books, school year books, St. Louis and Missouri history books for sale at the Fair. www.stlouisbookfair.com Joan Schaller Yeckel

To: kretired: Thank you for the information. It is very specific and when we get the chance to visit St. Louis, we can actually go to the graves. I will share it with my father. Thanks again, Andrew >>> kretired@netzero.net 4/20/2004 1:32:47 PM >>> Found the following info: Frederick George Weckherlin, age 7, d. 12/18/1896, Old St. Marcus Cemetery George F. R. Weckherlin, age 49, d. 12/15/1896, Old St. Marcus Cemetery Fred. , George, and Meda Weckherlin were moved to New St. Marcus Cemetery on 1/9/1914. Blk 36, Lot 75, Grave 2. The owner of the lot was Geo. C. Finger, Jr. Found nothing for Andrew. At 11:36 AM 4/16/04 -0500, you wrote: >Help! I am searching for any information about my great-great-great >grandfather, Georg Friedrich Weckherlin and also my great grandfather, >Andreas (Andrew) Weckherlin. > >Georg moved to Hermann, MO. in 1850 from Wurttemburg, Germany. >Obviously he was one of the 48ers. He was a lieutenant in the army in >Germany in Ludwigsburg and later a captain in the union army in St. >Louis. Benton Hussars. After that I have no idea what happened to >him. > >Andreas just disappeared. It is said he drowned in the Mississippi >River. He was from St. Louis too. He had a son, Frederick Andrew >Weckherlin (my grandfather) in 1896. I would really like to know >something about my great grandfather so if you know something, pleaae >write me or tell me where I could find some information. Thanks! >Frederick Andrew > > >==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from this list click on >mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list >mode) or mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe >(digest mode) - Contact mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-admin@rootsweb.com for list >related problems. For the GERMANS-STLOUIS-L archives, go to >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/germans-stlouis. > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== OLD-GERMAN-L is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical or historical interest in deciphering and interpreting written documents in German from earliest to most recent 20th Century times, and discussing old German words, phrases, names, abbreviations and antique jargon. To subscribe, send subscribe to mailto:OLD-GERMAN-L-request@rootsweb.com (Mail Mode) or mailto:OLD-GERMAN-D-request@rootsweb.com (Digest Mode) ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Kathy - Thanks so much for this information. It looks as though when my grandmother visited the "Kinloch office" in 1905 in St. Louis, that she was indeed going to visit where she had previously been employed before her marriage in January 1905 - the telephone company. I had heard many years ago that she had worked some kind of position like a switchboard operator, and it would seem that she did work for the Kinloch phone company. Thanks again. I do have more questions from the 1905 diary to be asked in a future e-mail. Frances

THANKS Kathy for the info -- I was just starting thru the St.Louis Genea Soc Cemetery CD, which I received only last week! This St.Marcus burial listing further confirms that she is the "right" Barbara -- several family members are also buried there. > Found the following: > Barbara Gutzler, d. 3/27/1904, age 57, born in Germany, buried in St. > Marcus Cemetery, St. Louis > > John Gutzler, d. 3/9/1903, age 60, buried in St. Marcus Cemetery, St. Louis Appreciate your "sharing" this info..... Margie in FL

Genealogy in St. Louis" <http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com> Greetings, Everyone! Dave Lossos has added my next group of Bethlehem Lutheran Church data to his site. These are Baptisms from 1850 - 1865. There are lots of spelling variations here so be creative when looking for your people. There are some familiar Illinois names in here. I hope you find some treasures! Thanks, Dave! In case the URL link above doesn't work (AOL has a tendency to mess them up), here it is written out: http://genealogyinstlouis.accessgenealogy.com Scroll down to the Bethlehem records.

Dear Gary, yes that helps. The information you have provided is helping fill in the gaps (and there are a lot of them). Anything you can find is appreciated. I will share what you have sent with my father. He also thanks you. I cannot believe that within such a short time period, my knowledge of my own family has increased so much. Thanks again. Andrew >>> stopan@optonline.net 4/16/2004 10:24:05 PM >>> Hi Frederick: Hope this helps St. Louis, Missouri Marriages, 1804-76 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Name Spouse Marriage Date Volume/Page Sophia Wilhe Heuer Georg F Weckherlin 25 Jan 1871 14-600 Edward Hunt Julia M M Weckherlin 26 March 1857 08-229 Source Information: St. Louis Genealogical Society, comp. St. Louis, Missouri Marriages, 1804-76. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Original data: St. Louis Genealogical Society. St. Louis Marriage Index, 1804-76. St. Louis, MO: St. Louis Genealogical Society, 1999. -------------------------------------------------- St. Louis City Death Records, 1850-1908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Death Date Birth Place Cemetery Address Frederick George Weckherlin 18 Dec 1896 St Mark 2309 S Broadway George O Weckherlin 15 Jun 1864 St Louis Mo Holy Ghost 238 S 2nd Mary Mrs Weckherlin 24 May 1870 2nd & Myrtle Nw Corner Source Information: St. Louis Genealogical Society, comp. St. Louis City Death Records, 1850-1908. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2001. Original data: St. Louis Genealogical Society. Index to Death Records in the City of St. Louis, 1850-1908. St. Louis, MO: St. Louis Genealogical Society, 1999. ------------------------------------------------------------- Civil War Pension Index Company "B" 2nd Mo. Infantry per Pension info - strongly suggest you apply to Nat'l Archives - alway a ton of info - see their webpage Application #647.957 by Wihelmina on 1/2/1897 - as a widow -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Widow State Filed Relative Minor Comments Image# George F. R. Weckherlin Wilhelmina Weckherlin Missouri 1079 Source Information: National Archives and Records Administration. Civil War Pension Index. [database online] Provo, UT: Ancestry.com, 2000. Data indexed and imaged from National Archives and Records Administration. General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934. T288, 544 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration ---------------------------------------------------------------- -------- These aren't the ones you listed but perhaps relatives from the same region - doesn't sound like a common name? Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index -------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Birth Date Birth Place Application Date Destination Number Weckherlin, Christian Johann 7 May 1819 Stuttgart 1847 Lemberg 569275 Weckherlin, Regina 29 yrs. Geislingen Mar 1857 North America 572043 Source Information: Schenk, Trudy and Ruth Froelke. Wuerttemberg Emigration Index - Vol. I-VIII (8), Salt Lake City, UT: Ancestry Incorporated, 1986- . ----------------------------------------------------- The 1880 census lists Geprge F. as 33 yrs old, a salesman at 3268 Allen Ave in StL. Wife Minnie, 32. William 10, Charles 4, and Andrew, 3, Mary ,2. George & Minnie b. Germany - all children b. Mo. Enumeration 143 pg 416. This was the November census (2nd taken in 1880 and deemed to be the most accurate) They were the only Weckerlins in StL. Don't have access to 1900 or 1910 but Wilhelmina (Minnie) shows living Minnie (from Hannover), 72 yrs living at 2319 S. Broadway in 1920 w/ son Charles, 4(7?) a collector? for the Phone Co. and g-son Frederick, 29, 2x, not employed. Also, a border, Carrie Beahle? born Illinois, 31?, a laundress at a Laundry Co. Also show a Sarah at a different address. Nothing further found on Andrew. Good hunting Gary Stoltman Mercerville, NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick Weckherlin" <weckhfa@mail.bay.k12.fl.us> To: <GERMANS-STLOUIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: [Germans-STL] Georg Friedrich Weckherlin > > Help! I am searching for any information about my great-great-great > grandfather, Georg Friedrich Weckherlin and also my great grandfather, > Andreas (Andrew) Weckherlin. > > Georg moved to Hermann, MO. in 1850 from Wurttemburg, Germany. > Obviously he was one of the 48ers. He was a lieutenant in the army in > Germany in Ludwigsburg and later a captain in the union army in St. > Louis. Benton Hussars. After that I have no idea what happened to > him. > > Andreas just disappeared. It is said he drowned in the Mississippi > River. He was from St. Louis too. He had a son, Frederick Andrew > Weckherlin (my grandfather) in 1896. I would really like to know > something about my great grandfather so if you know something, pleaae > write me or tell me where I could find some information. Thanks! > Frederick Andrew > > > ==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list click on mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) - Contact mailto:GERMANS-STLOUIS-admin@rootsweb.com for list related problems. For the GERMANS-STLOUIS-L archives, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/germans-stlouis. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Found the following: Barbara Gutzler, d. 3/27/1904, age 57, born in Germany, buried in St. Marcus Cemetery, St. Louis John Gutzler, d. 3/9/1903, age 60, buried in St. Marcus Cemetery, St. Louis At 03:03 PM 4/15/04 -0400, you wrote: >Is anyone else researching the surname GUTZLER in St.Louis City, >1870-19++? My Barbara HERBEL married John Gutzler about 1874 -- Her >brother Andrew >HERBEL later married John's sister KATHERINE between 1900 and 1910. In 1900, >John, Barbara, as well as Andrew were all at 1236 Sidney Street, St.Louis >City. > Barbara and John had a daughter Mary or Mamie (both names used in >various census) -- as late as 1910, Mary/Mamie was single and living with a >widowed aunt, Anna N. Hanna (70), married 2x but a widow. They lived at >145 Victor >Street in 1910. > I have been unable to located any children for the Katherine GUTZMAN >and Andrew HERBEL union. > I do have information on the HERBEL family, my grandmother's line. > Would love to find a connection to these families !!! > >Margie in FL > > >==== GERMANS-STLOUIS Mailing List ==== >GERMAN-SURNAMES-L is a mailing list for anyone with a genealogical, >cultural or historical interest in German surnames, given names, etc. To >subscribe click on >mailto:GERMAN-SURNAMES-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe (Mail >Mode) or mailto:GERMAN-SURNAMES-D-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe >(Digest Mode) > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237