Hi everyone! Just letting you know that the lists are back up and running again so to "celebrate" our return I'm initiating a first ever Surname Shout Out. A Surname Shout Out works like a Roll Call where we all post an ancestor we're totally stumped on. Please be sure to add vital statistics like date of birth, death, marriage, etc. Happy Hunting! David Samuelsen, new admin

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http://www.gsta.spk-berlin.de/fehler.php   in German language http://www.gsta.spk-berlin.de/hinweise_in_anderen_sprachen_940.html   this page has information in English, French and Polish. Google translation site in English http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gsta.spk-berlin.de%2Ffehler.php&act=url allen krueger looking for Krueger relatives . The Secret State Archives Prussian Cultural Heritage traces back to the chancellery of the margrave of Brandenburg according to a charter issued in Stendal 1282. Three hundred years later, in 1598, Erasmus Langenhain was appointed as the first archivist and the archives began to play an autonomous role. In 1803, the institution obtained the honorary title Secret State Archives. By incorporating the Secret Ministerial Archives (Geheimes Ministerialarchiv), it became the central archive for the records of Prussia’s supreme authorities. In 1924 the institution moved into a path-braking new functional building in Berlin-Dahlem. To this day, this is the seat of the Archives. Because of bomb attacks, documents were partially evacuated during the Second World War. After 1945, these documents were kept in Merseburg as a part of the GDR’s Central Archives. The documents that remained in Berlin continued to be available in Dahlem after 1945. In 1963, the Secret State Archives was incorporated into the Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation (Stiftung Preußischer Kulturbesitz). After German Reunification, the divided archives were joined in their original seat in Berlin-Dahlem.

New additions to SAMPUBCO! 1213 individuals, Power County Idaho Naturalization Petitions (every name, that means spouses and children are listed.) Post 1906 23 individuals, Clinton County, Missouri, same as Power Co.) post 1906 Naturalization petitions. 458 individuals, Alturas County, Idaho (now Blaine Co.) Declarations of Intent (before 1906) 210 individuals, Kent Co Delaware Naturalization Petitions http://www.sampubco.com More stuff on site. W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO

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Greetings fellow researchers and Family Historians! I see many, if not most, queries not being responded to due to ambiguity, and the difficulty of having to read well into the message to determine what the message is. We had a similar problem BPSP* 15 - 35 years ago on what ultimately became the internet. We did a lot of communication and created "message lists" to communicate our genealogy research. However, back then, we had a network bandwidth issue where even short messages could be truncated or not sent so we had to be PRECISE and SHORT. We could NOT use funky things like "U", or "PU" because any miscommunication resulted in wasted bandwidth to explain. Today, we have a "modern" bandwidth problem with up to 80% of our e-mail being junk such as forwarded jokes and Viagra. This is a crisis that we cannot "fix" in the general, but we can be part of the solution for our own interests. The fix is simple, effectively use the Subject line... I propose an "old school" solution that got me excellent results in the Dark Ages (BPSP)* All the CRITICAL data was on the SUBJECT LINE of the form: Keyword: NAME/earliest known location>next known location>etc. Keywords: Obit:, Query:, Address:, Family: Researcher: Cemetery: (other one-word indication of what you want) "Researcher" meant that you are interested in any potential discussions on the NAME NAME (followed by "/") was givenname, middlename, surname (as much as was known, using ? to indicate uncertainty) with family/clan queries only having the surname) Variations in spelling/transliteration was separated by "|", e.g. Sterkel|Staerkel|Stoerkel/ Location (followed by ">") streetaddress, ward or precinct, town/city, province/county, state/province, country> e.g. address?,Issenburg,Saxony?,Germany> A full Subject line could be for a Family Query: Subject: Research:Sterkel|Staerkel|Stoerkel/?,Issenburg?,Saxony?,Germany>?,Norka|Neu- Norka|Messer,Volga,Russia>?,Loveland,Larimer|Weld,Colorado,USA Note that there are no spaces, none needed. Note that you NEVER have to read the message to determine if you are interested Note that you can set up your email client to flag these for your attention. AND...even 25 years ago, search engines (think Google), LOVED these subject lines. NOTE: DO NOT USE SHORTENED WORDS *BPSP, before Play Stations, and using the only finger with one joint to do all the typing

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Please send personal e-mail to terry@sterkel.org, not to the list Thank you!

Does anyone have access to this book?: "Passenger and Immigration List Index: 2007 edition, Updated annually, the "Passenger and Immigration Lists Index" was compiled by P. William Filby and published by Gale Research. This resource includes individuals included in the "Index" and all supplements through the year 2006. If so could you look up John (JOHANN) FRIEDRICH (Fred) Krüger ? born 16 Aug 1847 somewhere in Prussia. He is my great grandfather. This may or may not be this John Kruger as listed below: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s about John Kruger Name: John Kruger Year: 1868 Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Source Publication Code: 9300 Primary Immigrant: Kruger, John Annotation: Called Section II, Alphabetical Index of Naturalization Records, 1794-1880, Maritime Records, Port of Philadelphia. Entries include names of applicants, countries of former allegiance, courts of record, and declaration dates. Reproduced from typewritten m Source Bibliography: UNITED STATES, WORK PROJECTS ADMINISTRATION. Index to Records of Aliens' Declarations of Intention and/or Oaths of Allegiance, 1789-1880, in United States Circuit Court, United States District Court, Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, Quarter Sessions Court, Court of Common Pleas, Philadelphia. Compiled by W.P.A., Project No. 20837. [Harrisburg:] Pennsylvania Historical Commission, [1940]. 25 vols. in 11. Vol. 6. Letter K. 235p. Page: 219 Thank you Allen

Thank you Terry for the info! I will definitely try both places. Cindy --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.

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Cindy, Try the Denver Public Library, Genealogy department. I just checked their online index for the Poppe name but did not find anything, however there are no indexes from 1943 to 1960. They have a lot of the Denver area newspapers on micro tapes. It is possible that being close to Denver there may have been an obituary posted there. Other than the Library the other place you might find something is the Colorado Historical Society. Both places have online web sites. Here is the Library URL: http://history.denverlibrary.org/research/index.html They do have a contact button. Terry -----Original Message----- From: germans-co-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:germans-co-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cindy Mitchell Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:45 AM To: GERMANS-CO@rootsweb.com Subject: [GERMANS-CO] Henry POPPE Thank you Erika for the note. I don't recognize the Blomer name. My Poppe's came from the Pobochnaya village in Russia. They went from there to Longmont Colorado. They were sugar beet farmers. I'm looking for Henry's obit but don't know where to locate old obit's from Colorado. Thank you Cindy --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANS-CO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Erika for the note. I don't recognize the Blomer name. My Poppe's came from the Pobochnaya village in Russia. They went from there to Longmont Colorado. They were sugar beet farmers. I'm looking for Henry's obit but don't know where to locate old obit's from Colorado. Thank you Cindy --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!

Genealogy: Naming patterns are clues to ancestors By DONNA MURRAY ALLEN © St. Petersburg Times, published December 13, 2001 Many immigrant ethnic groups observed naming traditions, but Germans elevated the custom of naming their offspring after ancestors to something of an art form. Gain an understanding of their various naming patterns and you'll find priceless clues to help you tie the generations together. The way Germans viewed given names depends upon what region in Germany they were from, said Hans Schrader. The Long Island resident is president of the German Genealogy Group based in New York. In certain areas, people were more likely to be called by their second name than their first. Johannes, Anna and Maria are often little more than prefixes to the given name that follows. Sometimes the first name was the baptismal name. Johannes Jacob, for example, would be called Jacob. In parts of the north, however, a patronymic naming method held sway, Schrader said in an e-mail interview. "A person was known by his first name, with his middle name being the name of his father. My grandfather and his eight siblings all had the same middle name. Gerhardt for the boys. Gerhardine for the girls. Gerhardt was my great-grandfather's first name." Whatever their preference, Germans continued the practice after arriving in this country, although not all customs were strictly observed. At least three different patterns existed in the 1700s and 1800s, all based on birth order. You'll find examples at <http://www.pbs.org/kbyu/ancestors/records/vital/extra5.html>www.pbs.org/kbyu/ancestors/records/vital/extra5.html. Some families added their own twist. Males often carried a middle initial that matched the first initial of the mother's maiden name. No actual middle name was given. Just an initial. If Mrs. Miller's maiden name was Schneider, her son's name might be John S. Miller. Surnames are another matter. Not only did the Germans lop off parts of their surnames -- Snidemueller became Mueller, which became Miller -- they sometimes Anglicized them completely. Schneider changed to Taylor, Zimmerman to Carpenter and Bruner to Springer. Keep an open mind! Other names that are vital to your research are the names of people living nearby and those who signed official documents such as wills and marriage licenses. Most Germans lived near each other in the homeland. They came together, and they stayed together for anywhere from one to three generations. They also worshiped together. Church records make a great resource. Lutheran, Reformed and Catholic records are predominant. Parish records often include data such as a child's date of birth, baptismal date and parents' names. Godparents may also be named. (The Mormon Church has an extensive collection of German church records.) Similar records may be found in Germany, Schrader said. Records there are organized on a historical regional basis with regional archives. The prospect of booking a flight to Germany may hold great appeal, but, before you buy that ticket, be sure you know exactly where in Germany your ancestors lived, otherwise you're playing a guessing game. To be successful, you must first identify your family's original immigrant and then pinpoint the ancestral location. Then you'd be wise to bone up on history and geography and determine what records you might actually be able to get. Do this by visiting a Mormon Family History Center, local library or by logging onto <http://www.cyndislist.com>www.cyndislist.com, www.rootsweb.com or <http://www.family%20search.org>www.family search.org. 18th Century PA German Naming Customs <http://www.kerchner.com/germname.htm>http://www.kerchner.com/germname.htm Need more help digging up your German roots? Check out the German Genealogy Group (<http://www.germangenealogygroup.com>www.germangenealogygroup.com) or Palatines to America (<http://palam.org>http://palam.org.) Scott Scheibe dsscheibe@earthlink.net http://scottsworld.info/gene.htm Alamosa Co., Costilla Co., Mineral Co. & Rio Grande Co., Colorado Coordinator, USGenWeb Project. <http://www.rootsweb.com/~coalamos/> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~cocostil/> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~cominera/> <http://www.rootsweb.com/~coriogra/> Descendants of Capt. Henry WOODWARD <http://woodward.scottsworld.info/>

Could anyone please tell me where I could locate an obit on my gr gr grandfather Henry POPP (Poppe)? He was born on Oct 15th 1890 in Russia. He was a Volga German. Upon entering the US he settled and lived the rest of his life in Longmont CO. I do not know when he died. I found him in the 1920 & 1930 Boulder census. Thank You! Cindy --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

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Hello Would you be a relative of Johann (John) Friedrich Kruger? Could you please help us find his relatives? I am trying to find ancestors, relatives and the origin of my great grandfather. My great grandfather was Johann (John) Friedrich Kruger, born 16 Aug. 1847. Birth place we have found on his census records are: Posen or Preusen, Prussia and Praha (Prague) and Luxemburg. We wrote to Prague and they could not find any record of him. We haven't found out exactly where he was from. WHERE JOHN KRUGER WAS FROM: 1. 1920 Census for John Kruger says he was from Prague 2. 1920 census of George Krueger, George said his father was from Luxemburg and his mother from Saxony ( which was true about his mother). 3. My grandmother, Elizabeth Moll/Krueger said he was from Luxemburg. We have different dates as to when he came to USA: 1. in June 25th 1867 on his first Naturalization paper, probably the most accurate. 2. in 1864 found in his obituary . 3. 1870 according to the 1900 census. 4. 1867 according to the 1910 and 1920 census.(same as No. 1) He became a naturalized USA citizen in 1883 - source is 1920 census and his second naturalization papers. Beginning with the 1880 census we find him in Barnesville, Minnesota, USA. We have found him on the following censuses: 1. 1870 USA Federal Census- Found a John Kruger on Agriculture Census of 1870 in Hennipen Co., MN.(not sure if he is ours) 2. 1880 USA Federal census. 3. 1895 Minnesota State census. 4. 1900 USA Federal census. 5. 1905 Minnesota census. 6. 1910 USA Federal census. 7. 1920 USA Federal census. He lived on a farm in Clay County, Humboldt Township near Barnesville, Minnesota, USA. TIME LINE: 1. It says he came to this country on or about June 25th 1867. Source is his first Naturalization Papers. 2. Found a John Kruger on Agriculture Census of 1870 in Hennipen Co., MN.(not sure if he is ours) 3. Signed First Naturalization papers on 19th Oct. 1871. 4. At the MN Historical Society I found in the Minneapolis Directory of 1871-1872 a John Kruger, lab, bds, Crow River House. Lab= Laborer, bds= boards(boarding house) In the Minneapolis directory of 1874 I found a John Kruger lab, bds at 113 N. 1st. In the Minneapolis directory of 1876 I found a John Kruger plasterer, bds at 113 N 1st. 5. Homesteaded on March 20th 1879 on NE 1/4 Sec. 12 Twp 137 Range 46 near Barnesville MN. 6. John F. Kruger is found in the 1880 Census in Barnesville, MN. 7. John Fred Kruger came to this country in 1864 and became a citizen 14 Nov. 1883 in Clay Co. MN,USA. 8. KRUEGER, JOHN FRED Source: MN Historical Society Death Cert. Index. CertID# 1922-MN-002635 Date of Birth: Place of Birth: Mother Maiden Name: not indexed not indexed not indexed Date of Death: County of Death: 03/18/1922 CLAY 9. Death Cert. from Clay Co Court House Moorhead, Mn.: Last name is spelled" Krueger" Krueger John Fred DOB 16 Aug. 1847 DOD 18 March 1922 Age 74-7-2 Occupation: Farmer Cause of death: Unknown Chronic Disease Birth Place: Germany Father: Kreuger(Notice Spelling) Mother(Unknown) DEATH FILES IN tANSEM township Att. Phy. : A. Cyr 10. OBITUARY OF JOHN KRUGER: Source: Barnesville Record Review Thurs. March 23 1922. John Krueger Passes Away Well know old Resident dies Saturday aged 74 years. John F. Krueger was born on the 16th day of August, 1847, in Preusen, Germany, and died march 18th, at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Ole Nyeng, east of the city, being 74 years, 7 months and 2 days old. he came to this country in 1864 and was married in 1887, his wife preceding him in death 5 years ago. To this union were born four children, one of whom, Arthur F. Krueger, was killed in the world war. Those surviving are George Krueger, Mrs. Ole Nyeng, and John Krueger, the latter of Cincinnati, Ohio. he is also survived by three step-children, 16 grandchildren and one great grand child. Mr. Krueger has been in failing health for some time, but only during the last few days was confined to his bed. The funeral was held from the German Evangelical church Wednesday afternoon at 2 o'clock. Rev. Karl G. Kissling officating, and the remains were laid to rest in the German cemetery. The pall bearers were Emil Fankhanel, Casper Wohlwend, Fred Weidel, John Specht, Paul Tuski and J.F. Tschabold. He homesteaded near Barnesville in May 15th 1879- Same time, House 14x20 ft., Stable 12x14 feet, Granary 12x14 ft., Well, 90 acres broken -$500.00 He married Ernestine Wilhemina Teubner/Reichel on 11-23-1885 in Barnesville, MN. Six children were born: John Friedrich, George Freidrich, Ida, Arthur and 2 infants died. John Fred Kruger died 3-18-1922 and is buried in the German Lutheran Cemetery, west of Barnesville, MN So far we haven't found out where he is from, would he be in your family history? Sincerely, Allen J. Krueger 2660 250th Ave. Canby, Minnesota, 56220-2095, USA email address is: akrueger@frontiernet.net

Searching for Mary WILER who was in Pitkin Co. according to a vague reference - probably a diary written there. My gggfa had daughters, Anna, Barbara and Mary on the 1850 Ohio Census. Any contact with Wilers in Oh or CO appreciated.

Which name's,are considered German Name's?Would Stoumbough,Adams,Hibbs Or,even Cox?Or,none of these? What parts of the country?Would it be mainly, like over by Germany?Or,all over? Just thought I would ask?My relative's were from these states.PA,Iowa,Illinois, Indiana.And possibly New York. I'm doing some family research. Thank you,for your time.Julie G.