I should have added a PS... here it is: PS Geisler / Geissler is of course a valid family name as well... ----- Original Message ----- From: "JM_on_GR_G" <JM_on_GR_genealogy@telus.net> To: "GerRus" <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:16 PM Subject: GAPPY NEW YEAR, GEY!!! > Was : [GERmanRUSsian] Hey Heissler research information > From: "Pius Waldman" : > " ... (Stumpp has mistake says Geisler). ... " > > Pius, U make a good observation! > > It should be noted that the exchange of an "H" on a family name for a "G" > is not at all uncommon > in the circumstances where the name rubbed shoulders with the Russian > empire... > > Names such as HUMMEL and HITLER > became GUMMEL and GITLER > as the Russians do not have the "H" sound... > > So the same clearly applies to GEISSLER... > > Researchers need to be alert to these types of transformations, > as looking for the transform can provide additional information... > > See for instance: > Gabershtro > Gajzer > Gejzer > Gekenlepbe > Gert > Gefner > Gejnle > Gilldebrant > Giltz > Gofman > and many many more on: > www.odessa3.org/collections/war/link/repress.txt > > > GAPPY NEW YEAR , GEY!!! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pius Waldman" <piuswaldman@LVNWORTH.COM> > To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:30 PM > Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Hey Heissler research information > > >> Pius D Waldman piuswaldman@lvnworth.com >> >> >> Most of the Heisler (Heissel or Heyzler) families came from the same >> family at Neewiller Bas-Rhin area of France. The others came from the >> same area and are probably collateral cousins. >> >> Here is a listing of the original families. Should anyone have >> information or questions our group information would be very helpful. >> Those that migrated to Kansas the Dakotas or Canada would be descendents >> from these original migrants. >> >> Information on Heissel Heyzler Heisler families from the Bas-Rhin region >> of France that migrated to Kutschurgan and Liebental districts of South >> Russia. >> >> Five siblings along with their mother left to Russia. >> >> Going to Baden Household 47 Anton Heissler married >> Theresia with known sons Peter and Anton from the 1852 census. >> >> Marie-Anne Heissel married to Peter Wingerter went to Elsass household 45 >> along with her mother Anna Heissel (Stumpp has mistake says Geisler). >> 1852 census lists sons Peter and widow of either Kasmir or Anton. >> >> Georg Heisler married to Anne-Marie Burgard migrated to Franzfeld >> Household No 1.Sons Valentin >> and Johannes had families. >> >> Catherine Heissel married to Franz Fix went to Franzfeld Household 18 >> >>>From a related family Franz Heissel married to Anne-Marie Heid went to >>>Franzfeld Household 13. Son Nikolaus married to Magdalena had sons Jakob >>>married to Katharina Bischoff Joseph married to >> Juliana Klotz. Daughter Dorothee married to Merdian. >> >> Another family Jakob Heissel originally went to Josephstal married to >> Marie-Anne Kah. Som Michael listed in Stumpp book. >> >> Household 5 at Franzfeld had a Peter Heisseler from Neewiller married to >> a Barbara with sons Johannes Christian and Wilhelm. >