Hello Bonnie, I know from reading historical accounts that some of the folks who went to the Caucasus had orginially "settled" in S.Russia... They joined the trek when the folks who were destined to Jerusalem < YES! Jerusalem! > got stuck in the Odessa Region...before moving on. Quite an interesting story!!! As to the HUMMELs in Caucasus;, yes, i'm aware of them.. ( Theodore and co. > They don't appear to be related to "our clan" though, who were originally in NEUBURG... I'm not aware of WIDMAIERs in that area.... but that's not to say they could not be related.... "Our" WIDMAIERs started in ALEXANDERHILF... and scattered from there. There are very clear connections to Bessarabia for instance. Sophienthal/Sophiental < Widmaier women married Ahner; Berg; Daffe; Maas Widmaier men married Bischof; Schmidt; Torno; Wacker; Zweigle > etc. ... ;j. Bcc: Lyle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Anderson" <[email protected]> To: "÷j." <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] WIDMAIER connections via 1858 Alexanderhilf & Neuburg Census material > Hi, Jay, > > In your research--especially with the Hummel and Widmaier families--do you > have indications of any of your ancestors migrating to the Caucasus? > > Regards, > > Bonnie Anderson > > AHSGR/GRHS Village Coordinator: > Johannesdorf and Karlsruhe - N. Cauc.; > Katharinenfeld - S. Cauc.; > GRHS Caucasus Coordinator > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "÷j." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:55 PM > Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] WIDMAIER connections via 1858 Alexanderhilf & > Neuburg Census material ..........................................> > > > © JWMeeuwig, 2001- > > Researching: HUMMEL; ROTH; SAUTER; WIDMAIER