My family is ENGEL. They were in Alt Freudental (Freudental, Freydental, Freudenthal) from it's beginning up until 1920 or later. Last known ancestors the following: Matthias (Matthaeus, Martes, etc.) & Dorothea (Moritz) ENGEL married in Freudental 1884. Kinder: Friedrich died Sofia/Sophia abt 1884 EWZ states married Wilhelm Pfaff EWZ58 Edward 29 Jan 1889 came to America 1911 *Johanna Maria 25 Mar 1891 came to America 1914 (my great grandma) Carl unknown birthdate Matthias unknown birthdate Wilhelm/William unknown birthdate Heinrich unknown possibly 1898 executed in Odessa Martyology Ehrman Henry or Paul Bertha EWZ states *25 Mar 1900 married an Anton Len EWZ50 This is the info I have. I don't know where Bertha & family were sent or went to. I don't know what happened to her parents or the rest of her brothers. Thank you all for your help. Rene'

Rene' wrote: > Kinder: Friedrich died > Sofia/Sophia abt 1884 EWZ states married Wilhelm Pfaff EWZ58 Based on the EWZ records i would conclude that Sophia was born 10 May 1884 As i wrote before, one has to be careful with the EWZ records... Although Bertha shows up... we can't say for sure that SHE is not the one who came to Germany... but for sure her daughter who would have been <almost > 15 at the end of WW-II did! Whether she < or her parents > stayed in Germany is a matter U would have to persue from different sources... What do U know abt Sophia's line? There is a chance i have <dug up> info for Matthias Jr. for U too! Do U have any letters from Russia??? Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENEA59@aol.com> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:41 PM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Freudental More specific info > My family is ENGEL. They were in Alt Freudental (Freudental, Freydental, > Freudenthal) from it's beginning up unt il1920orlater. > > Last known ancestors the following: > > Matthias (Matthaeus, Martes, etc.) & Dorothea (Moritz) ENGEL married in > Freudental 1884. > > Kinder: Friedrich died > Sofia/Sophia abt 1884 EWZ states married Wilhelm Pfaff EWZ58 > Edward 29 Jan 1889 came to America 1911 > *Johanna Maria 25 Mar 1891 came to America 1914 (my great > grandma) > Carl unknown birthdate > Matthias unknown birthdate > Wilhelm/William unknown birthdate > Heinrich unknown possibly 1898 executed in Odessa Martyology > Henry or Paul > Bertha EWZ states *25 Mar 1900 married an Anton Len EWZ50 > > > This is the info I have. I don't know where Bertha & family were sent or > went to. I don't know what happened to her parents or the rest of her > brothers. > > Thank you all for your help. > Rene' > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > Any virus infected e-mail via [claiming to be from] a Rootsweb.com list is > FORGED. > >