To the best of my knowledge there never was a (GR) RINGER in S.Russia... Often transcribers have had trouble discerning an "e" from an "n"... It does help when one knows which names exist, and what reads as pure nonsense... The interesting thing here is that Fried. WIDMAIER went to Bessarabia to marry his bride... even as his roots are in Alexanderhilf... The Widmaier -=- Rieger connection also shows in other relationships... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Freudental Birth Records Widmaier, Elisabethe 8 Jan 1864 Rosenfeld Friedrich/Anna Maria Ringer 1884123/4 180 2 From Alexanderhilf Wiedmaier, Stillborn Son 14 Jun 1870 Berlin Friedrich/Anna Maria Ringer 1884111/2 617 49 From Alexanderhilf Ringer?, Jacob 1 Feb 1871 Berlin Martin/Friedrike Gobel 1884125/2 622 4 From Brienne Strohmaier, Christina 3 Jun 1881 Berlin Jakob - Ringer, Rosine 1897593-1 651 17 elel Gross Liebental COMPARE: Bessarabian Village Marriages Wiedmeier, Friedrich 26 Oct 1850 Rieger, Anna Maria Arcis 1882651/3 167 24 Rieger, Martin 23 Sep 1855 Schmidt, Christina Kloestitz 1884075/1 551 31