We are trying to connect Jacob Fredrich Hochstetter b. 4-10-1824 Grossliebental and Johann Hochstatter b.12-10-1828 Grossliebental. I believe that Christian (below) is their father on the basis of birth records for the children (except Jacob and Johann) in the st. pete records which list him as father. The 1858 census list the children with their (mother also below). I believe Christian died 1850 also from st. pete records below. Jacob Fredrich is not listed with the family but occupies the house next door. I have lumped him in with the rest of the family on this evidence alone. Does anyone have better evidence? I am also guessing that Christian is the Christian Hochstetter listed on p.583 #199 of the Stumpp book. Does anyone have any info on these families? Sigmund, Christian's brother, apparently died in Alexanderhilf 1834. Don Hochstatter, Moses Lake WA Family Group Record ========================================================================================== Husband: Christian Hochstatter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Birth: abt 1799 Death: 25 Mar 1850 Odessa, So. Russia Marriage: Father: Hochstatter Mother: ========================================================================================== Wife: Katharina Bauer? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Birth: 1801 Death: 24 Mar 1859 Sarata, Bessarabia, So. Russia ========================================================================================== Children ========================================================================================== 1 M Jacob Fredrich Hochstetter Birth: 10 Apr 1824 Grossliebental, Liebental, Odessa, So. R Death: 16 Oct 1909 Eureka, South Dakota Burial: 18 Oct 1909 Eureka, South Dakota Spouse: Louise Meintzer (m 3 May 1864) Spouse: Katherine Esch (m 6 Jan 1848) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 M Johann Hochstatter Birth: 10 Dec 1828 Grossliebental, Liebental, Odessa, So. R Immigration: Apr 1894 Java, Walworth Co., South Dakota Burial: 22 Jun 1906 Congregational Cemetery, Java, South Dak Death: 21 Jul 1906 Walworth Co., South Dakota Spouse: Fredricka Luithle (m abt 1849) Spouse: Katherina Otto (m 16 Mar 1868) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 F Friederike Hochstatter Birth: 3 May 1834 Grossliebental, Liebental, Odessa, So. R Death: 10 Nov 1878 Sarata, Bessarabia, So. Russia Spouse: Alois Waldenmaier (m 1 Mar 1853) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4 M Johann Georg Hochstatter Birth: 7 Nov 1836 Grossliebental, Liebental, Odessa, So. R Spouse: Elisabetha Schueller (m 24 Oct 1857) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5 M Christian Hochstatter Birth: 24 Mar 1839 Grossliebental, Liebental, Odessa, So. R ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6 M Jakob Hochstatter Birth: 2 Dec 1841 Grossliebental, Liebental, Odessa, So. R ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 7 F Catherina Hochstatter Birth: 1845 Death: 8 Jan 1846 FAMILY NOTES HUSBAND NOTES: Christian Hochstatter General: An article about George Hochstatter says that "The Hochstatters had gone to Russia in 1808 from southern Germany. Christian is listed on the birth record of the children, except Johann, no birth record is available a this time. Grossliebental 1858 census says the family arrived in 1806. The birth date is derived from the Stumpp book that list a Christian Hochstatter as age 17 in the 1816 Grossliebental Census. WIFE NOTES: Katharina Bauer? Birth(1): Death: A Katherine Hochstatter died on 24 Mar 1859 in Sarata. The film list her age as 58 which is consistant with the 1858 census. The only other Katharina Hochstatter of the same generation is wife of Jakob (possibly a brother to Christian) her maiden name is Pfau. General: Grossliebental 1858 Census Family 361 Widow Katharina Hochschteter (Hochstätter), 57 3 sons and their wives Johann was 22 in 1850 census, wife Friederika, they transferred to Colony Alexanderhilf in 1853 Georg, 22 and wife Elisabetha, 28 Jakob, 16 Daughter Friederik is married in Sarata Family 362 Jakob Hochschteter (Hochstätter), 33 and wife Katharina, 34 son: Ludwig, 2 daughters: Dorothea, died 1854, and Friederika, 4 CHILD NOTES: Johann Hochstatter General(3): Johann was born in South Russia 10 Dec 1828. He transferred to Alexanderhilf from Grossliebental by instruction of the Oversight committee no. 694 dated Jan. 26, 1853. His birth information is based on his age as listed on his death certificate. He is listed on the 1858, 10th census, entry #73, Alexanderhilf, Liebental District, Odessa along with his son Gottlieb (Johann Gottlob). He is listed as age 28 in this census. He came to the US in April 1894, He landed in New York and went to Java, Walworth Co. South Dakota to live with his son John. He lived with his son until his death on 21 July 1906. The Walworth County, South Dakota 1900 census for Germans from Russia lists Johann as John born 1830, immigrated to the U.S. in 1893 and was a widower. He was living with his son John. According to his death record in South Dakota he is buried in the Congregational Cemetery 5 miles north of Java SD. This location would put his grave in Campbell County. With this information, and the fact that a H. Hochstatter is listed as being buried in the Odessa Reformed Church Cemetery in Campbell Do. and this cemetery is located adjacent to 2 sections of land farmed by his son Christian; and since Johann is not listed on any Walworth Co. Cemetery Lists, I Believe that H. Hochstatter and Johann Hochstatter is the same person. Therefore, Johann is buried in the Odessa Reformed Church Cemetery in Campbell Co. at Sutley, SD. The exact location of this cemetery is: NW 1/4, SE1/4, Section 23, Township 125 Range 75 File: 1,244,647 Bessarabian Village Death Records, 185x (R. Drefs) Hochstotter, Katharina 24 Mar 1859 Sarata File: 118,318 Grossliebental Birth Records, 183x (D. Wahl) Hochstaetter, Friedrike 3 May 1834 Grossliebental Christian Hochstaetter 1882643/1 85 37 Hochstaetter, Johann Georg 7 Nov 1836 Grossliebental Christian Hochstaetter 1882646/2 54 139 Hochstetter, Christian 24 Mar 1839 Grossliebental Christian Hochstetter 1882649/3 4 36 File: 80,615 Grossliebental Death Records, 183x (D. Wahl)Hochstetter, kaob Siegmund 27 Aug 1834 Alexanderhilf File: 23,177 Grossliebental Marriage Records, 183x (D. Wahl)Arnold, Ludwig 21 May 1837 Alexanderhilf Hochstaetter, Margareth 1882647/3 21 10 Wf - born (Herning) Widow Both from Alexanderhilf Grm is Widower File: 138,627 Grossliebental Birth Records, 184x (D. Wahl)Hochstatter, Dorothea 23 Oct 1848 Grossliebental Jakob Hochstatter 1882641/2 112 144 Hochstetter, Jakob 2 Dec 1841 Grossliebental Christian Hochstetter 1883192/2 16 161 File: 100,428 Grossliebental Death Records, 184x (D. Wahl)Hochstaedter, Catharine 8 Jan 1846 Grossliebental Christian Hochstaedter File: 225,487 Odessa (City) Death Records, 185x (R. Wiseman)Hochstucker?, Christian 25 Mar 1850 Odessa 1882651/3 186 21 Grossliebental ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon and Tami Beaty To: dthoch@qosi.net Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 9:25 PM Subject: Hochstetter family Don: Hello again. Not sure if you remember me. I emailed you a long time ago. I would like to run past you a few things I have been pondering and searching and chatting with others about....the Hochstetters and their genealogy. When you have some time email me and I will go over them with you. Have you found out more info since we last talked? I seriously think my Hochstetter 'Father' was Gottlieb Hochstetter....from Grossliebental. I am wondering if you have thought the same. My Jakob Friedrich Hochstetter I really believe somehow is connected to your Johann Hochstetter. Jakob had a son who was named Johannes. Anyway, too many of the same names in our families to not be connected. I am more determined than ever to finally get this information. I am going to get the information, whatever it takes! I am determined now. And am not going to be working on any of my other family names until I have this information. I feel like I am fairly close at getting this information. Jakob Friedrich Hochstetter was born in 1824. So that is difficult...I am at a time where it is difficult to get good records regarding good information, reliable information. But I do think it is possible to deduct information from the data we have available to look at. Let me know if you would like to chat about it. Our Hochstetters settled too close to one another not to be related. =) And I want more cousins! =) Chat soon I hope. Tami Beaty (my mother is a Hochstetter)