Julie, That would be great if you or your folks could help me out. I am really stuck on the Ryel side of the family. Edmund Ryel is a complete mystery so far. I have a lot of family names in that area. Lutz,Nutter,Underwood,Ryel,Shaw,DeHaven just to name a few. I go to towns in the area at least once a year checking news papers and other records. It would also be nice to meet them the next time I am there. Ray Bier