Claudia, I have a copy of the book mentioned, but not sure if we are looking at the same page. My German is basic, but I will attempt some sort of feeble explanation. Stobel, Joh. Jakob, aus (from): Leidringer/Balingen u Po-(Poland)Wu(Wurttemberg); Martin, *(born) 1812. According to the abbreviation page this is the best I can do. chris Fayetteville, GA Researching Braxmeier, Seidl, Immel, Stein, Wetsch