Julie, I really don't understand the census with Roth but I will send it as it appears in the book. Georg Rot (Roth) died 1855 age 79? Son: Andreas Retman (Redmann) age 63 wife Christina died 1852 Son's 1. Johann age 43 wife Karolina age 40 son's Ludwig age 19 daug. Elisabetha age 11 Andreas died 1857 Karolina age 9 Georg age 4 2. Friedrich died 1852 wife Maria (married) son, Friedrich age 10 daug, Margaretha age 7 Christina age 4 3. Jakob age 27 wife Elisabetha age 25 son, Christian age 3/4 daug. Elisabetha age 4 4. Andreas age 25 wife Elisabetha age 22 Andreas Retmann's Sr. Daughters Margaretha married Christina married Johanna died 1855 The way I see this is it is a name change? Ray>>:)