Hello, Had a sec this week to send off a couple of emails and thought I would send one of the many Schmidt lists out. Let me know if you have any interest in seeing the certificates for these folks. Until then, Michael Klotz Name Spouse Birth date Death date Schmidt, David Robert September 11, 1949 September 25, 1968 Schmidt, Gotteilf Heid, Bertha April 23, 1903 March 31, 1968 Schmidt, Isaac Unxau, Anna Schmidt, John Peter Thiessen, Berta October 03, 1902 July 30, 1969 Schmidt, Ludwig Wagner, Christina Schmidt, Peter Jacob Dick, Louise September 14, 1869 November 14, 1941 Schmidt, Robert Otto Teabo, Winnifred Shirley Schmidt, William Isaac Peters, Mary June 17, 1898 October 13, 1969

Does anyone have information on the parents of Albert BERTSCH? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Albert BERTSCH was born in Ashley, ND on September 5, 1898 and came to Canada in 1913. He married Paulina Ohlhauser on October 21, 1919. Children: Lily Ada and Reada. Albert passed away in 1975. From "Acme Memories"; published 35 years ago in 1979

Jacob BITZ was born in S. Russia, North of Odessa on December 31, 1867. Rosina Leno was born December 18, 1867 in the Odessa District. They were married in 1885 and came to America in 1903. Children were: Mathilda, Gustav, Edward, Theodore, Lydia, Nathaniel, & Arthur. They came to Canada in 1908. From "Acme Memories"; published 35 years ago in 1979

Are there any ROTH researchers, who are tracking this line? File:Freudental Birth Records, 186x Roth, Katharina 2 Feb 1864 Rosenfeld Georg/Katharine Jor? 1884123/4 181 7 From Alexanderhilf COMPARE: File:Grossliebental Marriage Record Roth, Georg 31 Jan 1852 Grossliebental Tornow, Katharine 1883185/1 128 5 File: Grossliebental Birth RecordS Roth, Karl 3 Oct 1860 Grossliebentha Georg Roth Katharine Torno 1884080/1 160 207 Bap: Oct 9 Roth, Charlotte 18 Jun 1870 Alexanderhilf Georg Roth/Katharina Tornow 1884111/2 185 16 Bap: Jun 21 File: Grossliebental Death Record Roth, Charlotte 14 Dec 1870 Alexanderhilf Georg Roth Katharina Torno 1884111/2 109 22 6 mos 26 dys

Are there any ROTH researchers, who are tracking this line? File: Freudental Birth Record Roth, Georg 28 Dec 1864 Rosenfeld Heinrich/Katharina Elisabetha B? 1884087/2 18 32 From Alexanderhilf COMPARE: File:Freudental Birth Record Roth, Katharina 1 Sep 1862 Rosenfeld Heinrich/Katharina Elisabetha Broeckel 1884095/3 133 21 From Alexanderfeld

There are at least THREE Metzingen known in Germany... My money would be on the third one... in Württemberg. Prefix: Metzingen 1) Metzingen (Kr Celle) Part of: Eldingen GKZ : 03 3 51 008 County : | | +---- Celle {CE} RegBez : | +------- Lüneburg Land : +--------- Niedersachsen 2) Metzingen (Niedersachs) Part of: Göhrde GKZ : 03 3 54 006 County : | | +---- Lüchow-Dannenberg {DAN} RegBez : | +------- Lüneburg Land : +--------- Niedersachsen 3) Metzingen (Württ) GKZ : 08 4 15 050 County : | | +---- Reutlingen {RT} RegBez : | +------- Tübingen Land : +--------- Baden-Württemberg Popul : 20019 If U have further question Ljiljana, i suggest U subscribe at: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html

Ljiljana, "Metzinger" would indicate that the origin, way, way, back would most likely have been froma town called METZINGEN... There are many towns in Germany that end in "INGEN"... and i believe there is a METZingen as well... I will look that up... The first place i would look would be Baden-Württemberg as it has so many places with "-INGEN" Other than that i can be of little help, as i have rarely come across the name Metzinger in the GermanRussian records... < so far anyway > I hope this helps some.. Jay PS Judy, thanx for forwarding same... ----- Original Message ----- From: <RemMick@aol.com> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:33 PM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Re: [GR-HERITAGE] Ljiljna needs help on Metzinger fam. > Can anyone help Lyiljana who asked: > > I am searching for origins of family Metzinger from Srem,Vojvodina.I would > like to know where is from Germany family Metzinger and what is the meaning the > name Metzinger. > > Thank you very much for reading this e mail > > > > Ljiljana > rstrip33@mindspring.com > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are NOT allowed. > >

Can anyone help Lyiljana who asked: I am searching for origins of family Metzinger from Srem,Vojvodina.I would like to know where is from  Germany family Metzinger and what is the meaning the name Metzinger. Thank you very much for reading this e mail   Ljiljana rstrip33@mindspring.com

hrg@infinet.com also doesn't work (reason: 550 <hrg@infinet.com> no such email address) ----- Original Message ----- From: "JM_on_GR_G" <JM_on_GR_genealogy@telus.net> To: "GerRus" <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 12:09 AM Subject: ODENBACH information... > In Sept 2001 we received a msg from Kathi HOTZ... > Her e-ddress as shown no longer exists... > I would like to get in touch with her... > If anyone knows her, please forward my msg. > > Thanx in advance, > > Jay > > PS > If there any other folks who have or > need ODENBACH information, > please contact me... > > > > > Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:31:08 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > From: Kathi Hotz <kathi59@yahoo.com> > To: GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20010920153108.95589.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] Roll Call > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I am researching the following surnames: > > Weidner, Kaldun, Fercho, Hildebrand(t), Adam > > Vaatz (spelled Faatz in the US), Nicholas, Perlenfein, > Odenbach, > > I would like any information on Georg Weidner b. 1812 > near Warsaw Poland. > > Also, would like any information on Louise Fercho who > married Georg. > > I interested in any information on Andreas Vaatz, > Michael Nicholaus, and Margaret Odenbach. > > These folks came from Bordino, Tauratino, Worms... > > Thank you, > > Kathi >

In Sept 2001 we received a msg from Kathi HOTZ... Her e-ddress as shown no longer exists... I would like to get in touch with her... If anyone knows her, please forward my msg. Thanx in advance, Jay PS If there any other folks who have or need ODENBACH information, please contact me... Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 08:31:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathi Hotz <kathi59@yahoo.com> To: GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20010920153108.95589.qmail@web20008.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] Roll Call Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am researching the following surnames: Weidner, Kaldun, Fercho, Hildebrand(t), Adam Vaatz (spelled Faatz in the US), Nicholas, Perlenfein, Odenbach, I would like any information on Georg Weidner b. 1812 near Warsaw Poland. Also, would like any information on Louise Fercho who married Georg. I interested in any information on Andreas Vaatz, Michael Nicholaus, and Margaret Odenbach. These folks came from Bordino, Tauratino, Worms... Thank you, Kathi

Sally < and others! > Please leave the "monitoring" or "housekeeping"on this list to the List Keepers. { Otherwise he & she are just twiddling their thumbs... eh!} Seriously, we want this type of "feedback" less, than a message that was posted here by mistake. Judy knows what this list is about, and has already apologized. But at least Judy has made some genealogical contribution to this list. Other than that, we expect subscribers here to use restraint, and when necessary the DELETE key on THEIR machine rather than a "sound off" post ON this list. The latter will not be tolerated. Now let's keep on roots rooting without sniping. The motto here is "Help and be helped"... So be helpful! So long, List Keeper BCC: Assistant List Keeper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard and Sally" <bermel2@wans.net> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] Daschel, GR vs Republican GR > This does NOT belong on this List! I do not appreciate political statements > of any kind. If you want to talk politics, go to a political site. Sally > in Houston > > ------------------------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RemMick@aol.com> > To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 11:34 AM > Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Daschel, GR vs Republican GR > > > > I for one back Bush and I am a desc. of GR who adds one extra letter AGR > as in American German Russian. I assure those of you who do not live in the > USA and have difficulty understanding our politics that there is a huge > section of USA citizens who do not agree with Daschel. > > > > The one thing all of this should teach us, all of us have different > opinions, now, and, just as our ancestors must have different opinions > while living in Russia under the rule of the Tsar and those who followed. > > > > remmick@aol.com

True. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard and Sally" <bermel2@wans.net> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] Daschel, GR vs Republican GR > This does NOT belong on this List! I do not appreciate political statements > of any kind. If you want to talk politics, go to a political site. Sally > in Houston > > ------------------------------------ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <RemMick@aol.com> > To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 11:34 AM > Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Daschel, GR vs Republican GR > > > > I for one back Bush and I am a desc. of GR who adds one extra letter AGR > as in American German Russian. I assure those of you who do not live in the > USA and have difficulty understanding our politics that there is a huge > section of USA citizens who do not agree with Daschel. > > > > The one thing all of this should teach us, all of us have different > opinions, now, and, just as our ancestors must have different opinions > while living in Russia under the rule of the Tsar and those who followed. > > > > remmick@aol.com > > > > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > > You may SEARCH our Archives anytime by going to: > > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GermanRussian > > > > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > Information about the GermanRussian Mailing List is at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html >

Hi everyone, It has been quite sometime since I posted to this mailing list. It seems quite impossible to find any history on my family: Alexander Eckstadt/Ickstadt married to Susannah Goss/Gass/Koss, both were born in Alexanderdorf. North Causcasisa, Russia. They came to Canada possbily July 1913 and have found his naturalization record for 1938. And can not find the ship he named, nor them on passenger list. I wrote the Archives in Naltschik, and they claim they have no information on the family. Yet family history says they lived there. Anyone have any idea where else I could look for information in Canada? Darthy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin" <rscott102@cox.net> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] Daschel, GR vs Republican GR > True.

I apologize. I sent my last e-mail to the wrong discussion grp. In another grp. someone had sent Dashels speech which lead to my opinion. Sorry remmick@aol.com

I for one back Bush and I am a desc. of GR who adds one extra letter AGR as in American German Russian. I assure those of you who do not live in the USA and have difficulty understanding our politics that there is a huge section of USA citizens who do not agree with Daschel. The one thing all of this should teach us, all of us have different opinions, now, and, just as our ancestors must have different opinions while living in Russia under the rule of the Tsar and those who followed. remmick@aol.com

This does NOT belong on this List! I do not appreciate political statements of any kind. If you want to talk politics, go to a political site. Sally in Houston ------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: <RemMick@aol.com> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Daschel, GR vs Republican GR > I for one back Bush and I am a desc. of GR who adds one extra letter AGR as in American German Russian. I assure those of you who do not live in the USA and have difficulty understanding our politics that there is a huge section of USA citizens who do not agree with Daschel. > > The one thing all of this should teach us, all of us have different opinions, now, and, just as our ancestors must have different opinions while living in Russia under the rule of the Tsar and those who followed. > > remmick@aol.com > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > You may SEARCH our Archives anytime by going to: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GermanRussian >

I don't think old man PETER was born in 1845... but rather in 1841 as per: Bessarabian Village Birth Records, 184x Koenig, Peter 29 Nov 1841 Paris Michael& Mandey, Eva 1883192/2 102 45 Remember Peter shows as being from PARIS on some of the records i sent earlier... And i think MANDEY is MANTEI*** *** Check out:Bessarabian Village Birth Records Koenig, Andreas 28 Mar 1837 Paris Michael& Mantei, Eva 1882647/3 56 12 Bap: Apr 4 Koenig, Anna Christina 4 Jan 1839 Paris Michael& Manteye, Eva 1882649/3 51 3 Bap: Jan 29 Koenig, Anna Dorothea 16 May 1834 Paris Michael& Mantei, Eva 1882643/1 137 22 Bap: May 20 Koenig, Ludwig 11 Jan 1836 Paris Michael& Mantei, Eva 1882646/2 88 23 Bap: Jan 16 Koenig, Siegmund 16 Feb 1833 Paris Michael& Mantei, Eva 1792290/2 118 9 Bap: 18 Feb Koenig, Christian 19 Jul 1840 Paris Michael& Mantei, Eva 1883190/4 26 26 Koenig, Carl Friedrich 24 Dec 1850 Paris Michael Koenig& Mantei, Eva 1883181/1 188 60 Konig, Wilhelm 2 Mar 1853 Paris Michael & Eva Montey 1883189/1 202 12 Konig, Wilhelm 2 Mar 1853 Paris Michael & Mantey, Eva 1883189/1 202 12 < yes, BOTH records are on file... > Also: Bessarabian Village Death Records, 185x: Konig, Wilhelm 6 Mar 1853 Paris Michael& Mantei, Eva 1883188/2 228 9 child Konig, Karl Friedrich 14 Jun 1855 Paris Michael& Mantei, Eva 1884075/1 357 25 Konig, Eva 17 Jun 1855 Paris 1884075/1 357 28 Poland husband Michael, nee Mantei < Likely she - and 2 kids - died as a result of infectious illness in the family > Konig, Simon 18 Jun 1855 Paris Michael & Mantai, Eva (deceased) 1884075/1 357 31

Here are the records for this KOeNIG bunch... File: Bessarabian Village Marriage Records, 186x Koenig, Peter 4 Jan 1863 Leischner, Karoline Tarutino 1884099/3 372 55 File: Bessarabian Village Birth Records, 186x-85 Koenig, Alfred 29 Oct 1863 Culm Peter & Leischner, Caroline 1884099/3 357 nn fa-Paris kol. Konig, Emilie 5 Sep 1867 Kulm Peter & Leichner, Caroline 1884091/3 383 59 Konig, Otto 1 Feb 1870 Kulm Peter & Leischner, Caroline 1884111/2 373 3 Koenig, Wilhelm 19 Jan 1874 Kulm Peter & Leischner, Caroline 1884120/1 260 7 Koenig, Rudolph 31 Dec 1875 Kulm Peter & Leischner, Caroline 1884070/1 298 83 Koenig, Arthur 26 Apr 1878 Kulm Peter & Leischner, Karolina 1895623/2 334 28 Koenig, Robert 8 Dec 1882 Eigenfeld Peter & Leischner, Karoline 1895610/1 553 8 Koenig, Robert 16 Jul 1884 Eigenfeld Peter & Leischner, Karoline 1895617/1 572 11 File: Bessarabian Village Death Records, 188x Koenig, Robert 21 Nov 1883 Eigenfeld Peter & Leischner, Karoline 1895615/2 636 31 1y, 4m

Allow me to refresh yer memory.... I have in my database the following { yes, from KKC! }: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: "Lehr Centennial 1898-1998" page 206 JOHN A. & ROSE (Essig) KOENIG {via KKc} John A. Koenig was born April 3, 1880, in Kulm, Bessarabia, South Russia. He was the son of Peter & Colleen (Leishner) Koenig. The Peter Koenig family came to America in the late 1880's perhaps 1893, and settled in Kulm, ND, where Peter was a grain buyer. John took various jobs including setting type for the Kulm Messenger. Peter and Colleen had a total of thirteen children born, eight of which were still living according to the census of 1900. John was united in marriage to Rose Essig, on February 5, 1906, who was the daughter of John and Charlotte (Bauer) Essig. Their six children are: Clara, married to William Remien, Edwin, married Cordelia Blilie, Johnnie married to Marie Lautt, Hulda married to Gust Fiechtner, Barbara married to Henry Gackle, and Lawrence married to DeLores Oelke. Edwin died May 28, 1992, Johnnie died March 11, 1986. John Koenig settled in the King Territory, which is approximately twelve miles northeast of Lehr, as a farmer. He was very active in the community and served as assessor for many, many years and was also a member of the school board of the Hillsboro District. The Koenig's were members of the King Lutheran Church. John served the church as organist and was also a Lay Sermon Reader. Farming was not very profitable in the early years and it was very difficult to make a living. In the late 1920's he became ill with what was diagnosed as a boil on his lung and after several operations and many days spent in the hospital he died on Jan. 30, 1931, leavings a young widow with six children to carry on. The two older boys took over the farm and the rest of the family went their separate ways. Lawrence and his mother, Rose, ended up in Lehr. In 1944, Rose moved to Kulm where she lived until she decided to enter a retirement home. She spent some time in various homes including Wishek, LaMoure, Edgeley and Ellendale. She died June 28, 1982. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To this i have added from a different source*** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 143. KOENIG, PETER & CARRIE (Leischner) [picture] Peter Koenig was born near Odessa, Russia, in 1845. He married Carrie Leischner in Russia. Their family included the following children: Mary, Amelia, Alfred, Otto, William, Rudolph, Arthur and John. They came to this country in the summer of 1886, and settled soon afterwards in Kulm, N.D., where Mr. Koenig taught music and did private tutoring in the German language. He was well educated and in Russia was a professor in city schools. He was a member of the Lutheran Church and active in church affairs. The family later moved to a farm north of Lehr. The postoffice, later discontinued, bore the name of King, having been named after Mr. Koenig. He died in April of 1909, his wife died in January of 1905. Their youngest son Johnny, worked in Kulm for a period of time, setting type for the Kulm Messenger and also worked in the Drug Store. He moved to the King settlement also, where he died in January of 1931. Mrs. Rose Koenig, widow of Johnny, now resides in Kulm. Grandchildren of Peter Koenig new living in this vicinity are: Art Koenig, Bismarck; John Koenig, Beulah; Mrs. Gust Fiechtner, Lehr; Mrs. William Remien, Kulm; Mrs. Henry Gackle, Kulm; Edwin Koenig, Kulm and Lawrence Koenig, Kulm. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Given that John married an ESSIG girl... and Wilhelm did likewise... U have yer connection... 1910 - 36 does give U 1874 ... Likely U may find more in the Lehr book... Or? *** Check the KULM book at: http://pixel.cs.vt.edu/library/towns/link/kulm57.txt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Clark" <ameagle01@voyager.net> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:06 AM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Wilhelm Koenig born Jan. 1874 > I have a Wilhelm Koenig, son of Peter Koenig and Carolina > Leischner. He was born 19 January 1874 in Russia. Other than > his birthday and name of parents I don't have anything else. > > I also have a Wilhelm Koenig who died about 1935, married to > Charlotte Essig - But I don't have a date of birth or parents for > Wilhelm. I can see where Charlotte could be Sharlotta (below), > but the age I have is off by about 5 years - which could just be > an error during the census? I don't have any children for > Wilhelm Koenig and Charlotte Essig. After he died she married > Alphonse Baune. > > I found the following Wilhelm Koenig on the 1910 census in > McIntosh County - does any of this match? If not, does anyone on > the list know any of the Wilhelm Koenigs? > > KOENIG, Wilhelm age 36 married 14 years, born in Russia, came to > U.S. in 1894 page 249A-30-31 > KOENIG, Sharlota age 37 had 9 children, 8 living born in ND > KOENIG, Paulina age 13 born in ND > KOENIG, Arthur age 10 born in ND > KOENIG, Ottilia age 9 born in ND > KOENIG, Robert age 7 born in ND > KOENIG, Bertha age 5 born in ND > KOENIG, Henry age 3 born in ND > KOENIG, Martha age 2 born in ND > KOENIG, Edgar age 3 mo. born in ND > > Kathy > > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > For questions or with comments about this list, contact the list administrator at > > mailto:GermanRussian-admin@rootsweb.com. >

The one and only DONRAD in these St. Pete Index files: File: 249,077 Freudental Birth Records, 187x Konig, Karl 1 Jun 1874 Neu Lustdorf Donrad/Barbara Beck 1884120/1 721 4 From Alexanderhilf COMPARE: File: 373,799 Rohrbach Birth Records, 187x Koenig, Karl 1 Jun 1874 Neu-Lustdorf Koenig, Conrad, Beck, Barbara 1884120/1 721 4 Bapt 9-Jun Koenig, Eduard 15 Nov 1876 Neulustdorf Konrad Koenig/Barbara Beck 1895622/1 720 3 Bap: Feb 6 '77 Koenig, Karoline 17 Dec 1879 Neulustdorf Konrad K. 1895629/1 746 3 File: 411,965 Freudental Birth Records, 188x Konig, Barbara 24 Jan 1881 Neu Lustdorf Konrad - Beck, Barbara 1897593-1 769 5 l l Worms Konig, Eduard 12 Jun 1883 Neu Lustdorf Konrad - Beck, Marg. 1895617-1 7 elel Worms File: 224,401 Freudental Death Records, 188x Konig, Barbara 22 Mar 1881 Neu Lustdorf - Beck, 1897593-1 796 2 43y.0m.0d., Lustdorf, B: c1838, H: Konrad Worms Konig, Eduard 16 May 1883 Neu Lustdorf Konrad - Beck, Margaretha 1895615-2 865 2 5y.6m.1d., File: 113,763 Rohrbach Death Records, 188x Koenig, Barbara 22 Mar 1881 Neu Lustdorf Konrad Koenig 1897593/2 796 2 43 yrs (nee Beck ) Koenig, Dorothea 17 Feb 1881 Worms 1897593/2 781 23 64 yrs - Born in Danzig Widow ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PS Is the 1st wife of Konrad, Barbara and the 2nd Margaretha Beck??? PS2 I spotted this stuff while doing some more research on KOeNIGs ...