> I am looking for info. on Friedrich SPRECHER, b. 1818 in Leipzig, Bess. > when, where, and parents? The information U want is [ II ] : OK based on the limited availability of senior SPRECHERs in Bessarabia, we would have to say that FRIEDRICH's parents are: Gottleib Sprecher and his wife Katherina nee Schelske (?) Gottlieb died in Leipzig on 26 Apr 1846 at age 58. His place of birth shows as Lorenzdorf, Prussia His wife Katherina died 3 Apr 1843 in Leipzig. Her place of birth shows as Poland. Her age at death was 50. < check other Schelke settlers who came from Poland, for a placename... > On 2 Mar 1834 Gottlieb and Katherina < at age 41 > still had a son, Jakob... As an aside Friedrich married the first time at age 20, to a gal of 17... She died a month after childbirth, when she was a mere 18 ... Her name was Christina Buss, she was from Kulm(?) My educated guess is that her ancestry was also in Poland. Hope this helps... Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "JM_on_GR_G" <JM_on_GR_genealogy@telus.net> To: "GerRus" <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <RACnestle@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 10:12 PM Subject: Son of SPRECHER, Friedrich & Gruenig, Justina > The information U want is: > > Sprecher, Christian > *18 Feb 1846 > Leipzig , S.Russia > f:Friedrich > m:Gruenig, Justina > St.Pete film# 1882638/1 29 8 > > > > Cathy Clemens Mon Sep 22 17:23:39 1997 : > > > I am looking for info. on Friedrich SPRECHER, b. 1818 in Leipzig, > Bessarabia. He is buried on the ZACHER farm--when, where, and parents? His > son Christian Lebenecht SPRECHER, b. 18 Feb 1846, imm. to Parkston, SD, in > 1878 and then to Mercer, ND in approx. years 1885 to 1916. He died 30 Nov > 1907--where? Christian had 2 children I can't find: Magdalena, b. 13 Mar > 1880 in Kulm, Hutchison, SD---who married? Daniel, b. 4 Jan 1877 in Leipzig, > never found after coming to NY on Mosel Nov 9, 1878...death records at sea? > Finally, looking for second wife of Christian, Justina SCHULZ (widow > REIMAN)b. 28 Mar 1854..died where, whern? SPRECHERS lived in Krem, Beulah, > Zap, Golden Valley, Elgin, and Hebron. > >

Is there a "Dodge" in Mercer Cty. , ND, as well as in Dunn Cty., ND ? Thanx in advance, ;j.

The information U want is: Sprecher, Christian *18 Feb 1846 Leipzig , S.Russia f:Friedrich m:Gruenig, Justina St.Pete film# 1882638/1 29 8 Cathy Clemens Mon Sep 22 17:23:39 1997 : I am looking for info. on Friedrich SPRECHER, b. 1818 in Leipzig, Bessarabia. He is buried on the ZACHER farm--when, where, and parents? His son Christian Lebenecht SPRECHER, b. 18 Feb 1846, imm. to Parkston, SD, in 1878 and then to Mercer, ND in approx. years 1885 to 1916. He died 30 Nov 1907--where? Christian had 2 children I can't find: Magdalena, b. 13 Mar 1880 in Kulm, Hutchison, SD---who married? Daniel, b. 4 Jan 1877 in Leipzig, never found after coming to NY on Mosel Nov 9, 1878...death records at sea? Finally, looking for second wife of Christian, Justina SCHULZ (widow REIMAN)b. 28 Mar 1854..died where, whern? SPRECHERS lived in Krem, Beulah, Zap, Golden Valley, Elgin, and Hebron.

Hi Curt, Friedrich Gerbershagen/Gerwershagen married 28.04.1853 Louise Rung, they had 5 children born 1854-1866 in Neunassau. Then they moved to Neu Danzig, two more children were born there: Friedrich *09.10.1868 and Karolina *02.11.1871. Do have this familiy in your Neu Danzig list and perhaps further data? Regards, Walter ------------------------------------------------------ http://de.geocities.com/kolb_bw/ ------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: <RWheelerst@aol.com> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Roll Call | villagers from: | Alt Danzig (Kirovograd) | Neu Danzig (Nikolayev) | Güldendorf (Odessa) | Hoffnungstal (Bessarabia) | | Curt. Renz | AHSGR and GRHS Village Coordinator | |

Freudental Birth Records, 186x Bietz, Christian 6 Jun 1868 Freudental Matthias/Johanna Schlecht 1884092/1 94 40 PBN:13 Freudental Death Records, 186x Bietz, Christian 16 Sep 1869 Freudental Matthias/Johanna Schlecht 1884110/3 104 31 1y.4m.10d., Freudental,PBN:13 COMPARE: For the query, Bietz w/9 Schlecht, of category St. Petersburg Freudental Birth Records, Bietz, Mathias 26 Dec 1852 Freudental Mathias/Susanna Schlecht 1883185/1 93 185 PBN:37 Bietz, Matthias 16 May 1854 Freudental Matthias/Susanna Schlecht 1883189/2 707 49 PBN:37 Bietz, Catharina 21 Jun 1856 Freudental Matthaus/Susanna Schlecht 1884100/2 98 36 H: RE, W: L, PBN:37 Bietz, Jacob 17 Nov 1857 Freudental Matthaus/Susanna Schlecht 1884103/2 795 100 H: RE, W: L, PBN:37 Bietz, Susanna 23 Nov 1861 Freudental Mathaeus/Susanna Schlecht 1884084/2 273 224 H: R, W: L, PBN:13 Bietz, Wilhelm 18 Dec 1863 Freudental Matthias/Susanne Schlecht 1884123/4 121 4 PBN:13 Bietz, Christian 6 Jun 1868 Freudental Matthias/Johanna Schlecht 1884092/1 94 40 PBN:13 Freudental Death Records Bietz, Mathias 5 Jun 1853 Freudental Matthias/Susanna Schlecht 1883188/2 83 14 0y.5m.9d., Freudental, PBN:37Bietz, Catharina 22 Jan 1857 Freudental Matthaus/Susanna Schlecht 1884103/2 769 2 0y.7m.0d., Freudental, PBN:37 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PS Bietz of course also shows up as Bitz.

Every so often , while roots rooting, one finds a "pearl"... The genealogical digs are full of lil pitfalls... transcription and spelling errors being foremost.. and then we have the good old stand-by, typos... The best one i have found recently < chucklewise > being: Kleinlickental Russia PS I will have to dig again, to see where it was i found that lil pearl!

Judy! It's super U are sending this information via the list. I think that is generally the best way, as often, one way or another, the information becomes useful to others also. I have often received one-on-one responses from people... but feel that a broader purpose is served when the discussion can and is held in the public forum. I do in fact have the Alexanderhilf census, unfortunately it's in Nova Scotia, where i will be in a couple of weeks < again > ;) But if Rene' will send me a reminder, i will endeavor to look up the info, unless someone else comes along now of course who has that information... I will post a seperate message about look-ups, for this has reminded me that we should probably do an "inventory"... as things always change... Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Holter" <lholter@intergate.com> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] Roll Call - TRIK > Rene' > > I'm sending this response both to you and the List in case someone else > would be interested in the information. These names weren't in the > Grossliebental census, however maybe someone has the Alexanderhilf > census so you can track the niece Katharina. Good luck. > Judy > > From the Neuburg census January 1, 1858 > > Family #33 - Arrived in 1805 > Georg TRIK (Trick) current age 40 > Son: Philipp age 14 > Wife Ernstina age 35 > Daughters: Magdalena age 9 > Karolina age 1 > Nieces: Magdalena - NOTE - went to No. 83 > Katharina - NOTE - went to Alexanderhilf > > While the note for Magdalena says she went to 83, she actually went to > 81. There she is age 32 married to > > Johann Edinger, age 32. > > They are living with Johann's family that arrived in 1806: > > Philipp Edinger age 65 > Sons: Johann age 32 > Friedrich age 27 > > Philip Edinger;s wife Friederika age 64 > Daughter: Katharina (in this census she is marked as - went to Odessa) > Johann Edinger's wife Magdalena TRUECK age 32 (arrived from 33) > Friedrich Edinger's wife Katharina (arrived from Odessa) age 21 > > > > > I am researching TRICK (TRIK, TRUECK, TRUCK, DRUECK) from Neuburg and > > possibly Grossliebental. > > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > Any virus infected e-mail via [claiming to be from] a Rootsweb.com list is FORGED. >

Am seeking the following individuals and descendants from: 1. Wilhelm Donat and Anna Kristine Mueller -Nowaja Semlia and Tomachuw 2. Friedrich Wutzke/Wotski/Wotzki and Rosalie Bunkowski/Bonkowski - Friedrichsdorf 3. Gottlieb Dreger/Drager/Draeger/Traeger and Juliana Friedenberg/Friedenberger - Matschulki 4. Ludwig Dreger and Wilhelmine Krebs - Roschischtsche, Donbrowka and Heimthal Delores Stevens Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

My families and areas of interest are: HERMANN and GERBER from Mariental STREITENBERGER, WEIMAN, WALLDER and BALL (BAHL) from Kamenka

Rene' I'm sending this response both to you and the List in case someone else would be interested in the information. These names weren't in the Grossliebental census, however maybe someone has the Alexanderhilf census so you can track the niece Katharina. Good luck. Judy From the Neuburg census January 1, 1858 Family #33 - Arrived in 1805 Georg TRIK (Trick) current age 40 Son: Philipp age 14 Wife Ernstina age 35 Daughters: Magdalena age 9 Karolina age 1 Nieces: Magdalena - NOTE - went to No. 83 Katharina - NOTE - went to Alexanderhilf While the note for Magdalena says she went to 83, she actually went to 81. There she is age 32 married to Johann Edinger, age 32. They are living with Johann's family that arrived in 1806: Philipp Edinger age 65 Sons: Johann age 32 Friedrich age 27 Philip Edinger;s wife Friederika age 64 Daughter: Katharina (in this census she is marked as - went to Odessa) Johann Edinger's wife Magdalena TRUECK age 32 (arrived from 33) Friedrich Edinger's wife Katharina (arrived from Odessa) age 21 > > I am researching TRICK (TRIK, TRUECK, TRUCK, DRUECK) from Neuburg and > possibly Grossliebental.

I am researching the following names: From Prischib Colonies, South Russia: ERLER, SCHEIDER, BADER, KUMBEIZ, HARTMANN From Kamenka and Semenovka, Volga Region: SCHAAB, LANG, HERLEIN, KEES (or KES) Marianne Davies Pender Island, B.C.

Can anyone help me with finding info on my grandparents in North Dakota their names Karl Johner ,Johanna Hoffert or( Schatz) or Joseph Ziegler and Magdalena Hagel around M cHenry county N.D. Mary Yakimovicz fgy-mary@comcast.net

Village of Warenburg: Kisling, Werner, Schiffman, Nickel (Nikel), Kehm, Seibert, Roth, Fertig, Muller, Valentin, Kaiser, Gobel, Rau, Bekker, Constantz, Schneidmuller, Baum, Zeichman, Schuman, Weiershausen, Andreas Village of Straub: Schneider, Schwabenland, Seher, Karle, Will, Rudolph Village of Dinkel: Nicolausen Village of Laub: Reitz Village of Balzer: Heisht Sharon White Warenburg VC Straub VC

Hello All, I am researching the following surnames: Village of Rohrbach Moser, Deutscher, Bender, Gemar Village of Worms Serr, Trautmann, Schwartz, Enzminger Unknown Village Bohler, Orth Thanks, Susie Corwin

Hey All, I am current working on these : Gueldendorf, Odessa, Ukraine Grenz Schacher or Schacker Rudolph or Rudolff Brenner (maybe odessa) Neuberg Hummel Yost Odenbach or Oldenbach Regards, Tyson I can be reached at nosytnot@onlinemac.com

Hi, Noted your posting. I have a cousin or believe her to be - not proven yet. That is researching Weber, my family Schimpf also say there is some connection between Weber ,Schimpf or Ickstadt possibly just good friends but maybe related. I have John Weber married Eugenia geborne Goss, daughter Kathaleen Bernice Weber and Victor Raymond Weber. Please let me know if these relate to you? Darthy ----- Original Message ----- From: "ussoakhill" <ussoakhill@cableone.net> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 1:55 AM Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] Roll Call > I am researching the Dehn and Lamle line. Have pictures, correspondence > (don`t know what they say as I don`t read German), postcards, and the same > for the Silks relatives_Webers, Theissen, and more. > > Charles Payne > Ponca City, Oklahoma > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are NOT allowed. > >

I am researching the Dehn and Lamle line. Have pictures, correspondence (don`t know what they say as I don`t read German), postcards, and the same for the Silks relatives_Webers, Theissen, and more. Charles Payne Ponca City, Oklahoma

Curt, It takes a village to raise a child, eh! I see U must have had 4 grandparents... ;) But on a more serious note, does this mean U are interested in ALL names for each of the villages below? And what of Neu-Hoffnungstal, which i believe was "related somewhat" to Hoffnungstal? By the way, have U ever seen any connections to Hoffnungstal (Alt-deutsch: Hoffnungsthal) in Germany??? See http://www.hoffnungstal.de/ Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: <RWheelerst@aol.com> To: <GermanRussian-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:16 AM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Roll Call > villagers from: > Alt Danzig (Kirovograd) > Neu Danzig (Nikolayev) > Güldendorf (Odessa) > Hoffnungstal (Bessarabia) > > Curt. Renz > AHSGR and GRHS Village Coordinator

I see Ochs on your list. My Ochs' were from Oberzell, Hessian and Poppenhausen, Hessian. People from the Oberzell area and surrounding villages did go to Russia. What can you tell me about the Ochs' listed?

Any line from Oberkalbach, Kurhessen, Oberzell, Kurhessian. Kathy Ochs