From: "Shirli" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:16 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Klettke and Seitz Families > Researching Klettke and Seitz families that settled around Ritzville, > Washington in the early 1900's. Some then moved on to Saskatchewan, Canada. > Shirli > >

Curt, with the events of the past week i'm way behind on queries et al < who isn't ! > But i did want to share a fabulous website for German-Polish and Polish-German information by Anna Sluszkiewicz at: http://www.atsnotes.com/other/gerpol.html called: "An Index of German-Polish and Polish-German names of the localities in Poland & Russia." For instance U will find: German reg. Polish Mogilno. . . . . . . . . . . . . .Poz Mogilno < Poz being: Poznania ; Posen ; Ksiestwo Poznanskie > In turn it also has many other excellent links.... Hope this helps, ;j. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt Renz" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:22 PM Subject: German / Polish towns > I'm in a quandry. I've been able to identify the village my gggrandfather > was born in in 1789 but, it's a German name for a village in Poland! > According to the record, he was born in Kiskowe, Pohlen. Would that be > Cieszkowo, or Cieszkowy, or Giezkowo, or Kachzkowo, or Kiszkowo, or ???? The > record also indicates that he was confirmed in Magilna in 1802. Any ideas > anyone? > > Regards, > > Curt. >

hello!! i found out (or at least i hope they're right) my ancestors birth places in Germany. and i was hoping maybe someone could tell me how to obtain birth or baptismal records. Peter VOLLMER born June 3,1800 in Kranenberg Germany wife Eva SCHUMACHER born 1809 in ? Adam (his son) born July 1835 in Bavana Peter (son) born March 30, 1839 in Bavaria Germany they immigrated in March 1854 Franklin RENZ born October 28, 1853 in Baden Germany he immigrated in 1872 any help would be greatly appreciated thank you kathy

Dear Listers, The Germans from Russia extraction index for Grant County, Washington from the 1920 U.S. Federal Census has been posted on the Volga Web Site at the following URL < http://www.webbitt.com/volga/index.htm >. I would like to thank Patrice Miller the owner of this site for all of her work in posting these extraction and for providing the web space on her site. Without a place to go with these extractions they would have little value. Sincerely, Gene Jenkins Selah, WA.

Dear Listers, I forgot to include the URL in the last message. < http://www.webbitt.com/volga/index.htm > Gene Jenkins Selah, WA.

That would be St. Petersburg of course... When WWI broke out in August 1914 it was decided to change the name of the Russian capital from St. Petersburg to Petrograd. The old name sounded too German for contemporary Russians. Have a look at the history of the name change on: http://www.cityvision2000.com/history/petrograd.htm Btw. can we have these queries on the NON-genealogy forums please.... Thanx for your help! ;j. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:30 PM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Gv: Petrograd > Dear Listers, > > Can someone tell me the current name for Petrograd. In some of the Germans > from Russia extractions that I currently undertaking I have found reference > for some Germans from Russia from Petrograd and I can't find it on a map. > > Gene Jenkins > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > Information about your GermanRussian Mailing List is at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html > >

Loveland Newspaper Loveland, Co. 09-11-01 Glen Gilbert Haas, 72, of Windsor, died Thursday, Sept. 6, 2001, at North Colorado Medical Center in Greeley. He was born Dec. 17, 1928, in Windsor to William and Marie Miller Haas. He married Joyce Brown McGinnis on Feb. 15, 1960, in Raton, N.M. Mr. Haas was a veteran of the U.S. Army. He managed the fertilizer plant in Windsor for 20 years, and retired from low-level dusting in 2000. He also worked as a fertilizer salesman throughout Northern Colorado. Mr. Haas served on the Windsor Town Board of Adjustments for eight years and was a charter member of the Quarter Back Club in Windsor. He also served as president of the Piece of Cake Klub and was the manager of the Old Timers Softball League held on Labor Day in Windsor. He enjoyed all sports, particularly baseball. Mr. Haas is survived by his wife, Joyce, of Windsor; a stepson, Michael McGinnis of Greeley; and three sisters, Ruby Lind of Windsor, Joan Taupier of San Marcos, Calif., and Norma Alles of Windsor. He was preceded in death by a brother, William Haas. Visitation will be from 8 a.m. Tuesday until service time at the Bethel Lutheran Church in Windsor. Services will be 10:30 a.m. Tuesday at the church. The Rev. Lloyd Lorensen will officiate. Burial will be at Lakeview Cemetery in Windsor. Friends unable to attend the service may sign a register book at the obituary page of www.TheFuneralStore.net Memorial contributions may be made to Hospice and Palliative Care of Northern Colorado or to Bethel Lutheran Church in care of Wright's Colorado Cremation Centers, 1213 W. Eisenhower Blvd., Loveland, 80537. Back to the top

The Fort Morgan Times Fort Morgan, Co 09-11-01 Mrs. Mary Lind Mary Lind, 89, of Fort Morgan, died Friday at Colorado Plains Medical Center in Fort Morgan. Mrs. Lind was born Aug. 22, 1912 in Lincoln, Neb. to John and Catarina Dietrich. She attended Lincoln Business College in Lincoln, Neb. She married David Lind Feb. 24, 1935 in Lincoln, Neb. They farmed southwest of Fort Morgan from 1935 until 1973 when they retired from farming and moved into town. David died Aug. 10, 1983. She was an active member in the Immanuel Evangelical Church and the Ladies Guild. She enjoyed reading and flower gardening. Her life was her family, faith and friends. She is survived by one daughter, Dr. Mary Ann Lind of Fort Morgan; two sons, David Lind Jr. of Fort Morgan and Robert Lind of Kearney, Neb.; one brother, John Dietrich of Las Vegas, Nev. There are three granddaughters, two grandsons, four great-grandchildren and two great-great-grandchildren. Mrs. Lind was preceded in death by her husband, two brothers, one sister and her parents. Visitation will be held Tuesday from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. at the Heer & Jolliffe Mortuary in Fort Morgan. Funeral services will be Wednesday at 10:30 a.m. at Immanuel Evangelical Church in Fort Morgan. Interment will follow in Memory Gardens. Friends who wish may make memorial donations to the Wycliffe Bible Translators, or World Vision c/o the Heer & Jolliffe Mortuary, 225 E. Platte Ave., Fort Morgan, CO 80701.

Dear Listers, Can someone tell me the current name for Petrograd. In some of the Germans from Russia extractions that I currently undertaking I have found reference for some Germans from Russia from Petrograd and I can't find it on a map. Gene Jenkins

Could some kind soul help me find the origination of my grandmother's maiden name TRIE. She was born in Stahl, and married a DIENER from Reinhard. I have not been able to find any information on either family and would appreciate any help and guidance in my genealogy search. Any information would be most appreciated. Thank you, Jane _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Looking for info on Christine Ottmar. Think she married Peter Pfaff ca 1787, probably in Hungary. She died in Freudental, Ukraine 18 Nov 1862. Mary June

Scottsbluff Star Hearld, Scotts Bluff, NE 5 Sep 01 Alexander Bauer GERING - Alexander BAUER, 88, of Gering, died Monday, September 3, 2001 at Heritage Health Care Center in Gering. Funeral services will be 10:30 a.m., Wednesday, September 5, 2001 at Gering Zion Church with Pastor Paul Hebbert officiating. Interment will be in Fairview Cemetery. Friends may call at Dugan-Kramer Funeral Chapel from 11 a.m. to 8 p.m., Tuesday, September 4, 2001. Memorials have been established to the church or Prairie Haven Hospice. He was born June 15, 1913 in Otis, Kansas to John and Anna (Bauer) Bauer. He grew up, attended, and spent his young adult life in Ft. Morgan and Brush, Colo. He married Bertha Albert on May 14, 1934 in Harrisburg. They began their married life in Melbeta and later moved east of Scottsbluff where they farmed for 28 years. In 1975, they retired from farming and moved to the Ken-Dill Subdivision in Scottsbluff where they resided until 1997. Alex then became a resident of Sunset Place at Heritage Health Care Center, which was his home until his death. He was a long-time member of Gering Zion Church where he served as President of the Board, Elder and Deacon. Alex was an accordion player with The Polka Kings Dutchhop band and they played for many German weddings and parties in this area. He was an avid bowler, golf enthusiast and traveler. He had a great love for motorcycles and was an accomplished water skier. He is survived by his daughters Jean Frank and husband Bill of Gering, Joyce Asmus and husband Marv, Bev Overman and husband Mark all of Scottsbluff; grandchildren, Tim Frank of Lincoln, Mike Frank of Denver, Colo., Jeff Asmus and wife Sherri of Lodgepole, Angie Martin of Scottsbluff; step-great-grandchildren, Katy and Kevin Warren of Lodgepole; brothers, John Bauer, Jr. of Scottsbluff, August Bauer of Greeley, Colo., and sister, Marie Wiedeman of Scottsbluff. He was preceded in death by his wife, Bertha, two sons, William and Gary, parents, four sisters, one brother, and grandson, Marvin Kelly ASMUS. < with permission from and thanx to Henry Schmick, who first posted this obit >

Dear lists: I ask if any among you know of any German Baptists from Russia? Having lived and worked among these loving and gentle folk one can't help dreaming of living in their less-worldly manner. http://www.garstfamily.com/ogbb/gbblife.html This site containing links to history, begs the question if any among them answered to Catherine's beckoning call. Thanks, Joe

I had received word from Martin Schock sometime ago that he had added his family files to the Odessa Digital Library ( yODL ) With his permission we are making the announcement abt its availablilty! All the files are now available! There are 12 files; one description and eleven family files. Got to: http://pixel.cs.vt.edu/library/families/ And look for: The Schock Collection (M. Schock) They are: Overview of the Schock Family File Compilations and EHNI, born at Borodino, Bessarabia KREIS of Alexanderhilf and Liebental District LANGE, born at Borodino, Bessarabia RENSCHLER of Freudental and Neu Freudental, Odessa ROTH of Alexanderhilf, Peterstal and Leibental District SCHAFFNER of Neuburg and Liebental District SCHOCK, born at Borodino, Bessarabia SCHOCK of Peterstal and Liebental District SCHOCK, born at Unterheinriet, Württemberg, Germany WAGNER at and from Hoffnungstal, Odessa WAGNER of Neuburg and Liebental District At present U may have to inspect each file on its own as the yODL search function at: http://pixel.cs.vt.edu/library/search.html Data Category: Family Histories We'll keep U posted! Good luck and happy hunting in the Schock files! Bcc: Martin Schock

U had to pick a _BERG eh! Here are some choices..... Cnt Name 1 Gänsberg 1 Gaiberg 1 Gaisberg 1 Galenberg 3 Galgenberg 1 Gartenberg 1 Gatterberg 1 Geestgottberg 1 Gehlberg 1 Gehlenberg 1 Geiselberg 1 Gelenberg 3 Georgenberg 1 Geraberg 1 Gerickensberg 1 Germersberg 1 Gerstenberg 1 Gevelsberg 1 Gilsberg 1 Gilserberg 1 Gisselberg 1 Glauberg 1 Gledeberg 1 Gleichamberg 1 Gleisberg 2 Gleißenberg 1 Glindenberg 1 Glockenberg 1 Glosberg 1 Gnadenberg 1 Göritzberg 1 Götzberg 2 Goldberg 1 Gollenberg 1 Gollnerberg 1 Gosberg 1 Goßberg 1 Gossenberg 1 Gottberg 1 Gottesberg 1 Gottfriedsberg 1 Gräfenberg 1 Gräfensteinberg 3 Grafenberg 1 Grasberg 1 Greifenberg 1 Greiffenberg 1 Greilsberg 1 Grellenberg 1 Gremberg 1 Gretenberg 1 Grevingsberg 1 Grillenberg 1 Grimmelsberg 1 Gronenberg 1 Großberg 1 Großbrannenberg 1 Großdornberg 1 Großenberg 1 Großer Silberberg 1 Großetzenberg 1 Großkampenberg 1 Großkirchberg 1 Großkochberg 1 Groß Rehberg 1 Groß Schenkenberg 1 Groß Spiegelberg 1 Großsteinberg 1 Groß Sterneberg 1 Groß Timkenberg 1 Groß Vahlberg 1 Großvoigtsberg 1 Groß Wesenberg 1 Grübelsberg 7 Grünberg 1 Grüneberg 1 Grünlichtenberg 1 Grünsberg 1 Gudensberg 1 Günterberg 1 Güterberg 2 Guggenberg 1 Gumpersberg 4 Gutenberg 2 Guttenberg 1 Gutzberg 1 Gysenberg Enjoy, ;j. ----- Original Message ----- From: "÷j." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] Grehesberg Germany????? > There is a Gretenberg... a Grellenberg , a Gremberg, a Greilsberg, a > Greifenberg, and Greiffenberg, BUT no Grehesberg... > But stay tuned... I may have an inspiration yet! > > > Can U give a district or German State? > > ;j. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kathy hamby" <[email protected]> > Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Grehesberg Germany????? > > > > can anyone tell me where this is in Germany? ........ >

There is a Gretenberg... a Grellenberg , a Gremberg, a Greilsberg, a Greifenberg, and Greiffenberg, BUT no Grehesberg... But stay tuned... I may have an inspiration yet! Can U give a district or German State? ;j. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kathy hamby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:40 AM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Grehesberg Germany????? > can anyone tell me where this is in Germany? ........

Hello Diane, It's those messages we prefer to see on GR-HERITAGE < where likely U found it > or on [email protected] See: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GERMAN-RUSSIAN-HERITAGE.html Especially as this is not necessarily without controversy. It has very clear political overtones < even the term RUSSIAN GERMANS !!! > , so is best kept out of our GENEALOGY forum... Everyone's cooperation will be greatly appreciated! Now i'd love to compare notes with U on FETZERs....... List Keeper! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Schachterle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:42 AM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Congress of Russian Germans > Not exactly geneology, but informative and may shed light > on some lost ancestors and reasons for emigrating to the USA. > Diane (searching: Schachterle, Bibleheimer, Schmidt, Fetzer) > > Frankfurt - The Congress of Russian Germans opened in Moscow this week for > two days. The opening ceremony marked the 60th anniversary of the "Stalin > ukase", or decree, which abolished the autonomous republic of the Volga > Germans in 1941. ............... snipped...... >

My apologies that my previous message came thru all run together < i have NO idea why... ; it didn't go out that way....> Here is the original: Hello Jake, did U ever get an answer to: Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:47:36 -0600 Reply-To: JAKE HARDER <[email protected]> Sender: <[email protected]> From: JAKE HARDER <[email protected]> Subject: LANGUAGE QUESTION Hello Friends: Can anyone of the members help me with some unfamiliar words)? By der Gemeinte (Goodts tot) Dantzig ( gedoopt) anno1667 (Door) Peter Classen ... The words in question are in brackets, It could be an error in spelling. Thank you. Jake ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here's mine; the translation would be: "In the congregation of God at Danzig was baptized in the year of 1667 by Peter Classen ...." However i think it actually reads better as: "Baptized in the year of 1667 by Peter Classen in God's congregation at Danzig ....." The language is old-fashioned Dutch.... Today the correct Dutch would read: "Bij de gemeente van God te Danzig, gedoopt anno1667 door Peter Classen, ...." ........... I'd be very interested in learning where U found that line... So long, ;j. Jay W. Meeuwig Also at: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html < for GermanRussian GENEALOGY only > ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Harder To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: GOOD AFTERNOON Hi J or Jay: We always thought humidity was good for us mortals. But too much of a good thing can be bad too. ........... Guten tag mein Herr! ...... Jake

can anyone tell me where this is in Germany? it said on my gr,gr,gr grandfather's obituary that this was his place of birth. i've checked on a map but couldn't find it. and also maybe someone could please tell me how to get birth records from Germany??? thank you all very much kathy researching; Renz, Vollmer (Fullmer),Baer Paszotta, Dougherty, McLaughlin, Brennan, MacDonald, Rutledge, Gordon, Shephard

Hello Jake, did U ever get an answer to: Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:47:36 -0600 Reply-To: JAKE HARDER <[email protected]> Sender: <[email protected]> From: JAKE HARDER <[email protected]> Subject: LANGUAGE QUESTION Hello Friends: Can anyone of the members help me with some unfamiliar words)? By der Gemeinte (Goodts tot) Dantzig ( gedoopt) anno1667 (Door) Peter Classen ... The words in question are in brackets, It could be an error in spelling. Thank you. Jake~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Here's mine; the translation would be: "In the congregation of God at Danzig was baptized in the year of 1667 by Peter Classen ...." However i think it actually reads better as: "Baptized in the year of 1667 by Peter Classen in God's congregation at Danzig ....." The language is old-fashioned Dutch.... Today the correct Dutch would read:"Bij de gemeente van God te Danzig, gedoopt anno1667 door Peter Classen, ...." ........... I'd be very interested in learning where U found that line... So long, ;j. Jay W. MeeuwigAlso at: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html< for GermanRussian GENEALOGY only > ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Harder To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: GOOD AFTERNOON Hi J or Jay: We always thought humidity was good for us mortals. But too much of a good thing can be bad too. ........... Guten tag mein Herr! ...... Jake