On the "Zeeland": Associated Passenger Date of Arrival Port of Departure Line # Page # 61 Haag, Cyrillus July 27, 1914 Antwerp, Belgium - 12 0012. Haag, Cyrillus M 26y S Russia, Hebrew Odessa, Russia Also on the: "Zeeland" Associated Passenger Date of Arrival Port of Departure Line # Page # 55 Haag, Cgallus July 27, 1914 Antwerp - 30 0030. Haag, Cgallus M 28y S Russia, German Odessa, Russia NOTE that Cgallus likely should be Cyrillus !!! ========^^^^^============^^^^^ Hope this helps! ;j. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Also on: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "÷j." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] HAAG to USA Hello <Hallo> Peter, < Can i write to U in English? > : I'd like to help; can U tell me the first name of Gran'ma SCHREIBER? Did she also come to Bismarck? There are many people called HAAG; but i will try to find the information =================== ALSO: Ich moechte versuchen zu helfen! Bitte erzaehle mal , wie die Grossmutter heisst: _______ ? Schreiber. Kam sie mit nach Bismarck? Es gibt viele Leute die HAAG heisen! Ich wuerde mal versuchen die information zu finden! Bis bald, ;j. Jay W. Meeuwig, Nova Scotia, CANADA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Also on: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:06:52 +0100 From: Peter Haag <[email protected]>

Hello <Hallo> Peter, < Can i write to U in English? > : I'd like to help; can U tell me the first name of Gran'ma SCHREIBER? Did she also come to Bismarck? There are many people called HAAG; but i will try to find the information =================== ALSO: Ich moechte versuchen zu helfen! Bitte erzaehle mal , wie die Grossmutter heisst: _______ ? Schreiber. Kam sie mit nach Bismarck? Es gibt viele Leute die HAAG heisen! Ich wuerde mal versuchen die information zu finden! Bis bald, ;j. Jay W. Meeuwig, Nova Scotia, CANADA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Also on: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:06:52 +0100 From: Peter Haag <[email protected]> To: Michael Miller <[email protected]> Subject: Ahnenforschung Hello, Mr. Michael Miller, mein Großvater Gottlieb Haag hatte einen Bruder namens Cy(i)rillus, der vor dem 1. Weltkrieg ca. 1913 nach Amerika ausgewandert ist. Er wohnte in Bismarck (North Dakota), hatte vermutlich eine Tochter. Seine Frau war eine geborene Schreiber. My grandfather, Gottlieb Haag, had a brother by the name of Cy(i)rillus who emigrated before WW I in ca. 1913 to America. He lived in Bismarck, North Dakota, had presumably one daughter. His wife was a Schreiber. Könnten Sie etwas mehr über diesen Cirillus Haag und dessen Nachfahren herausbekommen. Ich wäre Ihnen sehr dankbar. Could you find out more about this Cirillus Haag and his descendants? I would be very grateful to you. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Sincerely, Peter Haag Kobern-Gondorf Germany

With GERTRUDE being an unusual name for women in S.Russia i took a look at the timeframe that was indicated by her age... Two Gertrudes where born; and then one passes away... Sooo, does anyone know if Gertrude <wedded> WITTMAYER was nee <maidenname> DAFFE? Which brings me to another question: "where connections between Peterstal and Glueckstal common?" [ Curt? ... ;) ] I would rather expect a Gertrude from the Glueckstal Colonies... Any help / comments? ;j. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ : Freudental Birth Records, 188x Daffe, Gertrude Jul 1883 Petersthal Hein. - Rogler, Gertruda Huether, Gertrude 8 May 1883 Paulsthal Geo. - Deibert, Magd. : Freudental Death Records, 188x Huether, Gertrude 27 Sep 1881 Paulsthal Ludwig - Pfaff, Christ. Barb. Elis. 1897593-1 679 11 1y.8m.4d., Paulsthal Petersthal Pfaff, Gertrude Dec 1884 Petersthal Johann - Fuchs, Elisabetha 1895617-1 712 32 6y.11m.23d., Petersthal ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:05 AM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] Manifest for Barcelona ; Sailing from Bremen Arrival: October 21, 1905 > Sharing additional Ellis Island data: > > Associated Passenger Date of Arrival Port of Departure Line # Page #102 > Wittmayer, Karl October 21, 1905 Bremen 16 > > 0016. Wittmayer, Karl M 21y M Russ., German Odessa, Russia > 0017. Wittmayer, Gertrude F 22y M Russ., German Odessa, Russia > 0018. Wittmayer, Pauline F 11m S Russ., German Odessa, Russia

The original post got bounced; here it is <again>... ----- Original Message ----- From: "÷j." <[email protected]> To: "Ger_Rus_L" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 1:40 AM Subject: ERRATUM: Kueopfle s/b KNOePFLE > : Grossliebental Birth, 185x > Kueopfle??, Magdalena 5 Nov 1850 Grossliebental Jakob Kueopfle?? > 1882651/3 119 156 BCC: (Nancy #140385)

Sharing additional Ellis Island data: Associated Passenger Date of Arrival Port of Departure Line # Page #102 Wittmayer, Karl October 21, 1905 Bremen 16 0016. Wittmayer, Karl M 21y M Russ., German Odessa, Russia 0017. Wittmayer, Gertrude F 22y M Russ., German Odessa, Russia 0018. Wittmayer, Pauline F 11m S Russ., German Odessa, Russia IN ADDITION the following GRs: 0019. Miller, Anton M 30y M Russ., German Strassburg, Russia 0020. Rode, Auguste F 26y S Russ., German Bietal, Russia 0021. Meyer, Karl M 31y M Russ., German Vibolajewke, Russia 0022. Meyer, Anna F 25y M Russ., German Vibolajewke, Russia 0023. Meyer, Karl M 3y S Russ., German Vibolajewke, Russia 0024. Meyer, Elisabet F 2y S Russ., German Vibolajewke, Russia 0025. Meyer, Heinrich M 10m S Russ., German

: Glueckstal Birth Wittmeirer, Heinrich 14 Nov 1877 Glucksthal Johann Georg 1895622/1 610 112 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Is anyone doing research on the WITTMAIERs of Glueckstal????? I'd like to compare notes! Thanx, ;j.

It also would appear that Rothenberger below s/b ROTH: : Freudental Births Roth, Karl 6 Nov 1871 Rosenfeld Jacob/Magdalena Knopfle 1884125/2 616 15 From Alexanderhilf Roth, Johann 4 Feb 1874 Rosenfeld Jacob/Magdalene Knopfle 1884120/1 538 19 From Alexanderhilf Roth, Luise 28 Jul 1881 Rosenfeld Jacob - Knoepfle, Magd. 1897593-1 656 18 l l Alexanderhilf Rothenberger, Magdalena16Jan 1884 Rosenfeld Jakob - Knoepfle, Magd. 1895617-1 73 elel Alexanderhilf Roth, Karolina 14 Oct 1885 Rosenfeld Jakob - Nepfle?, Magd. 1897695-1 769 2 elel Alexanderhilf

: Freudental Births, 186x Kafer, Jacob 19 Feb 1862 Rosenfeld Georg/Johanna Lautenschlager 1884095/3 131 6 From Neuburg Kaiser, Johanne 30 Jan 1864 Rosenfeld Georg/Johanne Lautenschlager 1884123/4 180 5 From Neuburg COMPARE: : Grossliebental Marriage, 184x Kaefer, Georg 20 Feb 1845 Grossliebental Lautenschlager, Johanna 1882636/1 369 15

: Bessarabian Births Mauch, Friedrich 21 Feb 1835 Alt-Postal Gottlieb Staebler, Catharina 1882645/2 101 52 Bap: 27 Feb. Mauch, Johann Gottlieb 17 Apr 1837 Dennewitz Gottlieb Stuebner, Catharine 1882647/3 52 10 Bap: Apr 19 COMPARE: : Bessarabian Births Mauch, Catharina 23 Apr 1833 Alt Posttal Gottlieb Stoebner, Katharina 1883193/2 99 10 Bap: 25 Apr Mauch, Johann Jakob 1 Oct 1839 Dennewitz Gottlieb Stebner, Katharina 1882649/3 44 24 Bap: Oct 8

Greeley Tribune Greeley, Colorado 11-04-01 Carson Zink Carson R. Zink, 96, of Grover died Thursday, Nov. 1, at Fairacres Manor. He was born May 21, 1905, in Greenfield, Ill., to Eli and Clara Maude (Adcock) Zink. On Oct. 11, 1955, he married Gladys (Rasmussen) Zink in Sidney, Neb. Mr. Zink farmed most of his life. He owned and operated a TV and small appliance repair shop as well, and sold machinery tools. He loved to bowl, play cards with his neighbors and travel to Illinois to visit his family. He was a member of the Wisetown Baptist Church in Illinois and the Farm Bureau. Survivors are his wife, Gladys (Rasmussen) Zink of Grover; two stepdaughters, Anne Cole of Greeley and Doris Williams of Derry, Pa.; two sisters, Florance Philip of Fort Collins and Iva Werner of Greeley; and many grandchildren and great-grandchildren. A stepson, Stan Pendergraft, and two brothers, Vernon Zink and Paul Zink, are deceased. Services will be at 1 p.m. Tuesday at the Adamson Memorial West Chapel. Interment will be in Sunset Memorial Gardens. Friends may visit from 4-6 p.m. Monday at the West Chapel. In lieu of flowers, friends may contribute to the Friendship Alliance Church in Grover in care of the West Chapel.

Hamilton, Mont. - Edna Hoffman, 77, of Hamilton and formerly of Ashley, N.D., died Monday, Oct. 22, 2001, at the Arron Care Home in Corvallis, Mont. Edna Walz was born Dec. 29, 1923, to John and Magdalena Walz in Ashley. She married Oscar Hoffman of Ashley in 1942. They settled in Great Falls. He died in 1970. She moved to Hamilton in 1994 to be close to her daughter. She was an active charter member of the Bethel Lutheran Church in Great Falls and later became a member of the First Presbyterian Church in Hamilton. Survivors include one daughter, Joan Roe of Hamilton; one brother, Alvin Walz of Ashley; two sisters, Emelia Schulz and Anna Golnick, both of Lodi, Calif.; four grandchildren; and four great-granddaughters. She was preceded in death by her parents, her husband, three brothers, two sisters, one daughter and one son.

Streeter, N.D. - Walter Rall, 74, of Streeter and formerly of Forbes, N.D., died Thursday, Nov. 1, 2001, at the Central Dakota Village in Jamestown, N.D. Burial will be in the Ellendale Cemetery in Ellendale, N.D. Walter Rall was born Aug. 29, 1927, to Fred and Elizabeth (Schweigert) Rall near Forbes. He received his elementary education at the local rural school and he grew up in the Forbes area. He helped on the family farm. In 1953, he took over the farm and operated it until 1967. He moved to Streeter and in 1969 started driving the Streeter School bus. He drove until 1986 when he semi-retired. He continued to reside in Streeter. He was a member of St. Luke's Lutheran Church in Streeter. Survivors include many cousins. He was preceded in death by his parents and one brother. Compiled by Dave Vilhauer and Stefanie Rossow

Linton, N.D. - The funeral for Della W. Flegel, 83, of Linton died Tuesday, Oct. 30, 2001, at her residence. Della W. Bechtle was born Jan. 12, 1918, to Gottlieb and Eva A. (Schaefer) Bechtle in Linton. She attended Linton Public School and graduated from high school in 1936. She worked for the Emmons County Welfare Board for several years. She married William E. Flegel on May 10, 1942, in Linton. In 1963 she began working at the Emmons County Record as a social editor and bookkeeper, working for several editors. She was employed there at the time of her death. She was a member of the Linton United Methodist Church and served as a Sunday school teacher and on various committees including the church board and United Methodist Women. She was a member of the Emmons County Historical Society, Linton Hospital Auxiliary and Linton Senior Citizens, All Class Reunion Committee and many others. She was also a 4-H leader, Youth Fellowship leader and worked with her husband with the Linton Cub Scouts. Survivors include one son, William Alen (Nancy) Flegel of Fort Worth, Texas; two daughters, Colleen (Steven) Peterson of Carpio, N.D., and Cheryl (Eldor) Scheid of Fargo, N.D.; two sisters, Lavina Flegel of Great Falls, Mont., and Juanita Lundell of Green Bay, Wis.; and 10 grandchildren. She was preceded in death by her parents, her husband, one infant daughter, two brothers and two sisters.

Aberdeen - David Schaible, 92, of 1224 S. High St. died Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2001, at the Bethesda Home of Aberdeen. David Schaible was born Dec. 22, 1908, to Johann and Magdalene (Schmitt) Schaible in McPherson County. This is the area where he grew up and attended school. He married Bertha Vossler on May 25, 1930, in Eureka. They lived there until 1942, when they moved to Aberdeen. He worked at a bakery where he delivered baked goods and later worked for the South Dakota Highway Department for 17 years before he retired. He moved to the Bethesda Home of Aberdeen May 5, 2000. He was a member of Zion Lutheran Church in Aberdeen and was a past member of the Moose Lodge. Survivors include two sons, Emanuel Schaible of Moses Lake, Wash., and Harley Schaible of Austin, Texas; one daughter, Shirley Boschee of Aberdeen; one brother, Adolph Schaible of Leola; 10 grandchildren; 22 great-grandchildren; and one great-greatgranddaughter. He was preceded in death by his wife, two sons, nine brothers, one sister and one grandson.

Edward "Ed" Muller, 69, of Lodi, died July 31 in a local hospital of natural causes after a lengthy illness. He was born on May 13, 1932, in Gackle, N.D., where he was reared and graduated from high school. Mr. Muller came to Lodi in 1952, and was inducted into the U.S. Army. He was discharged in 1954 and returned to Lodi and married Adeline Janke on Aug. 12, 1955. He was employed by Spiekerman's, John Mansville, and Mason Packing. He was then employed as a utility operator by the City of Lodi for 27 years and retired in 1987. He was a member of the Lockeford VFW Post No. 9009, Lodi American Legion Post No. 22, the Lodi Order of Eagles Lodge No. 848, and the Lodi Loyal Order of Moose Lodge No. 634. He is survived by his wife, Adeline Muller of Lodi; children, Debra Muller and Barry Muller, both of Lodi; sister Emma Kundert of Lodi; and two grandchildren. He was preceded in death by his brothers, Jake, Adolph and Art Muller.

Martha Kempf, 94, of Lodi, died July 29 2001 in a local convalescent hospital of natural causes after a brief illness. She was born on May 12, 1907, in Ashley, N.D. Mrs. Kempf was a homemaker and resided in Ashland, Ore., Medford, Ore., and Sacramento. She enjoyed playing the organ, doing crafts and quilting. She is survived by her nieces and nephews. She was preceded in death by her husband, Otto Kempf; daughters, Irene and Anna Kempf; and 18 brothers and sisters.

Leonard Preszler, 85, of Lodi, died Sept. 15 at his home of natural causes after a brief illness. He was born Jan. 9, 1916, in Lodi. Mr. Preszler lived his entire life in Lodi except from 1970 to 1978, when he lived in San Pedro. He was a longshoreman for 25 years and a farmer for 35 years. He is survived by his wife, Mildred I. Preszler of Lodi; daughter, Lynn Edmondson of East Liverpool, Ohio; sister, Martha Harris; and one grandson.

Emanuel "Lee" Lutz, 74, of Lodi, died Sept. 18 , 2001 in a local hospital. He was born Dec. 26, 1926, in Greenway, S.D. Mr. Lutz lived in Lodi for 45 years and was a mechanic at Stockton Dodge for 18 years. He was a member of the 50-Plus Club. He is survived by his wife, Adeline Lutz of Lodi; children, Brenda K. Neto and Michael David Lutz of Lodi; sisters, Rose Fischer and Elsie Knoepfle of Eureka, S.D.; and two grandchildren.

Levern "Leo" Seibel, 77, of Lodi died Sept. 22 at his home in Lodi. A native of Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, Seibel moved to Lodi in 1941, and served in the U.S. Army in World War II and in the Korean War. Seibel was the manager of Seibel's Rest Home in Woodbridge for many years, and later worked as a door-to-door salesman. He was a member of English Oaks Seventh-day Adventist Church and Lodi Moose Lodge. He is survived by his wife, Virginia Seibel of Lodi; his son, Bob Hiser of Stockton and daughter Shirley Dilley of Tulsa, Okla.; brothers Marvin Seibel of Oregon and Emo Seibel of Hawaii; sister Evelyn Miller of Fresno; six grandchildren; 11 great-grandchildren; and two great-great-grandchildren.

Emma Larson, 87, of Lodi, died Sept. 25 in a local convalescent hospital of natural causes. She was born Emma Zimmerman on May 16, 1914, in Gackle, N.D. Mrs. Larson was a resident of the area for 14 years. She also resided in Fargo, N.D. She worked as a retail clerk. She was a member of First Baptist Church and enjoyed being with her family. She is survived by her sisters, Ruth Lehr of Acampo and Lydia Mueller of Lodi. She was preceded in death by her husband, Louie Larson; three brothers and two sisters. There will be a private celebration of her life. Committal will be in Gackle, N.D.