065. GACKLE, ERNEST & EDITH (Bryan) 066. GACKLE, GEORGE Sr. & CHRISTINA (Haag) 067. GACKLE, GEORGE Jr. & BERTHA (Hildebrand) 068. GACKLE, GOTTLIEB Sr. & CHRISTINA (Haag) 069. GACKLE, JOHN & MARGARET (Wolfer) 070. GACKLE, MARTIN and W.F. Strehlow 071. GACKLE, OTTO & ALICE (Higdem) 072. GAECKLE, JOSEPH & BERTHA (Steinke) 073. GEHNERT, JACOB & DOROTHEA (Heidinger) 074. GOEHNER, JOHN and Iva Schneider then widow Mrs.William Klettke. 075. GOEHNOR, FRED and Mrs Goehnor ... 076. GRAMITA, PETER and Louise Gall of Olivet, S.D. 077. GROSZ, DANIEL Sr. & CAROLINA (Mueller) 078. GROSZ, GUSTAV & PAULINE (Kosanke) 079. GROSZ, JOHN & CHRISTINA (Gackle) 080. GRUENICH, JOHN & CHRISTINA (Pockert) 081. GUTHMUELLER, LUDWIG & CATHERINE (Winckler) 082. HAASE, MARTIN & JUSTINA (Knoff) 083. HAFFNER, CHRISTIAN & FREDERICKA (Sandau) 084. HAFFNER, JOHN & CHRISTINA (Guthmueller) 085. HANNELD, CHRIST & RIKA (Doering) 086. HANNELD, GOTTLIEB & MATHILDA (Isaak) 087. HARTER, CARL & MAGDALENA (Schafer) 088. HASZ, DANIEL and Mrs. Daniel Hasz ... 089. HAUFF, JOHN & BERTHA (Fregien) 090. HAUSKEN, OLAF <Mr. Hausken never married.> 091. HECK, CHRISTIAN and Marie Schuldheisz ; Katherina Schweigert 092. HEDLUND, J. & CHRISTINE (Peterson) 093. HEHR, DAVID & CHRISTINA (Maier) 094. HEIDINGER, CHRIST & MARY (Rathke) 095. HEIDINGER, FRED & M. (Pressler) 096. HEIDINGER, JOHANNES & KATRINA (Schlenker) 097. HEIER, KATHARINA nee Herrmann ( Reinhold Konrad ; Emanuel Heier; ) 098. HERMAN, RUDOLPH & OLGA (Brosz) 099. HERRMANN, FRIEDERICH & JOHANNA (Belder) 100. HERMANN, GOTTLIEB Sr. & SOPHIA (Dietrich) 101. HERRMANN, ROBERT & MARGARET (Nitschke) 102. HIEB, CHRISTOPH & EMMA (Gackle) 103. HIEB, EDWIN & DELLA (Novak) 104. HIEB, MICHAEL & MARGERETHA (Winckler) 105. HILDEBRAND, FRED and Louisa Radke then Julia Neumann 106. HILLE, SIMON and Susanna Hille 107. HILLIUS, JOHN and Mrs. Hillius 108. HILSCHER, MICHAEL & REBEKKA (Hasz) 109. HIOM, TOM and Mrs Hiom then Sadie Lewis 110. HOFFER, ANDREW and Mrs. Hoffer 111. HOFMEISTER, JOHN & MARTHA (Billigmeier) 112. HOLLAN, CLARA [Grosz] (Robert Hollan) 113. HOLLAN, JOSEPH & PAULINE (Hartman) 114. HOLLAN, ROBERT and Clara Grosz 115. HOLMAN, OLE & MATHEA (Larson) 116. HUTTON, THOMAS and Miss Williams 117. IRION, GOTTFRIED & MARIA (Hiller) 118. IRION, JACOB & ELIZABETH (Schoetle) 119. ISAAK, CHRISTIAN <widower> 120. ISAAK, GOTTFRIED & CAROLINE (Leischner) 121. ISAAK, GOTTLIEB & CHRISTINA (Beich) 122. ISAAK, JOHN & ELSIE (Brauer) 123. ISAAK, NATHANIEL & CHRISTINA (Fregien) 124. ISAAK, WILLIAM & ANNIE (Gackle) 125. JANKE, JOHN & LYDIA (Konrad) 126. JANS, WILLIAM & OLGA (Hiller) 127. JENNER, ALBERT & OTILLIA (Fischer) 128. JENNER, JOHN and Mathilda Doering then Mathilda Jantz 129. JENNER, PETER & CHRISTINA (Winkler) 130. JOHANSON, CARL and Lina Johanson 131. JOHNSON, ANTON & LYDIA (Ogren) 132. JOHNSON, CARL & AMALIA (Nielson) 133. JOHNSON, JOHN & SOPHIA (Anderson) 134. JOHNSON, JONAS & MATHILDA (Anderson) 135. JOHNSON, ZACHARIAS & CAROLINE (Lindgren) 136. JONSON, BAKMAR ..........see next part 268. ZELLMER, C. & MARY (Dittus)

Kathy, i don't think these are our HILDEnBRANDTs , but have a look anyway.... ;j. [picture] Mr. Hildebrand was born in Kulm, So. Russia on February 7, 1867. His parents were Mr. and Mrs. Gottlieb Hildebrand who moved to America with their children in 1879. They made their way to the Dakotas and settled near Parkston, S.D. On November 22, 1889 he was married to Louisa Radke and in the same year they moved south of Kulm where they lived for many years. Twelve children were born to this union, namely: Mrs. Lydia Henneberg, deceased; Solomon, deceased; Mary, Mrs. Gottlieb Wendland, Kulm; Fred W. Hildebrand, of Kulm; Rev. Edward Hildebrand, deceased; Dave and Adolph of Kulm; Helen, Mrs. August Laeger of Kulm; Johanna, Mrs. Treichel, Lodi, Calif.; and Richard Hildebrand of Kulm. One boy and one girl died in infancy. On April 7, 1910, Mrs. Hildebrand died while some of the children were quite young. Mr. Hildebrand married Mrs. Julia Neumann August 23, 1910. The family moved to Kulm in 1924. Mr. Hildebrand was elected as a State Representative for the district in 1927 and served this office for the 1927-1928 term. He also served on the city board as alderman for a two year term. He was elected president of the First State Bank of this city in 1918 and held the office until his death. Mr. Hildebrand was elected Mayor of the city of Kulm in 1928. He had served the public for a year and a half in this capacity when he died in the early fall of 1929.

001. ANDERSON, CARL & ANNA (Hanson) 002. ANDERSON, EMIL & ELNA (Ostrum) 003. ANDERSON, ERICK & BETSY (Erickson) 004. ANDERSON, JOHN & ANNIE (Arvidson) 005. ARVIDSON, A. & EMMA (Tjernlund) 006. ARVIDSON, CLAES & ANNA (Johnson) 007. BADER, DANIEL 008. BADER, SAMUEL & ELIZABETH (Diedrich) 009. BEICH, REINHOLD & PALMA (Flegel) 010. BENTZ, CHRISTIAN 011. BERGMAN, HERMAN & CAROLINE (Reese) 012. BERNTSON, LEWIS & CHRISTINE (Rolighed) 013. BERNTSON, SIGNORT & ANNA (Johnson) 014. BILLIGMEIER, PETER & CHRISTINA (Borth) 015. BJORNSON, H. & ANNIE (Bergman) 016. BJORNSON, J. & ANNA (Milne) 017. BJUR, ANTON & ERICKA (Jonson) 018. BJUR, ERICK & AMANDA (Noren) 019. BJUR, JACOB & WILHELMINA (Johnson) 020. BJUR, JOHN & HULDA (Jonson) 021. BJUR, LEANDER & EVELENA (Jonson) 022. BLOMQUIST, AUGUST & AMANDA (Larson) 023. BLOMQUIST, JOHN & CAROLINA (Ogren) 024. BLOMQUIST, NELS E. & EVA (Gustafson) 025. BOHNET, RYNHOLD & JUSTINA (Gehnert) 026. BORTH, MICHAEL & MARIA (Kurtz) 027. BOWMAN, ERIC & CHRISTINE (Anderson) 028. BRADY, PATRICK & ELIZABETH (Goodrich) 029. BRANDT, FRED & EMMA (Becker) 030. BRAUER, CHRISTIAN 031. BRAUER, MICHAEL & ELIZABETH (Doerr) 032. BRENKLE, J.F. 033. BROST, DAVID F. 034. BROST, JOHN & MATHILDA (Herrmann) 035. BUECHLER, CHRISTIAN & DORA (Brost) 036. BUECHLER, FREDERICK & CHRISTINA (Werre) 037. BUECHLER, FRIEDRICH & KATIE (Doerf) 038. BUECHLER, MARK & JULIA (Anderson) 039. BUERKLE, HENRY & DORETHEA (Nittle) 040. BUERKLE, MARTIN and Christina Wolff 041. BURK, ERIC & MARTHA (Roedel) 042. CARLSON, ANDERS and Ida Kristina Jonson 043. CARLSON, CARL & GUSSIE (Malm) 044. CHAMBERS, GILES & EMMA (Roedel) 045. DAVIDSON, GUSTOF and Anna Nelson 046. DAVIDSON, PETER & GUSTAVA (Jonson) 047. DIMICK, DEXTER & LYDIA (Grosz) 048. DOBLER, GOTTLIEB & MARIA (Buechler) 049. DOERING, EDWARD & MARIA (Grosz) 050. ELHARD, EMANUEL & EMELIA (Kuhn) 051. ENTZMINGER, PHILIPP Sr. & KATHERINE (Dralf) 052. ERBELE, J. & CAROLINE (Weber) 053. ERICKSON, JONAS & EVA (Lindblom) 054. FERGUSSON, FREDERICK & LAURA (Johnston) 055. FEY, PHILLIP and Selminna Heller ; Rosina Schock 056. FLEGEL, CHRISTIAN & LOUISE (Richter) 057. FLEGEL, DANIAL & MONA (Elliot) 058. FLEGEL, FREDERICK & ALICE (Mattson/Hedlund) 059. FLEGEL, FREDERICK & LOUISE (Kraft) 060. FORSMAN, NELS & CHRISTINA (Hanson) 061. FRANZ, JOHN Sr. & MARY (Schock) 062. FRANZ, JOHN Jr. & HANNAH (Schweigert) 063. FREGIEN, JOHN & HERMINA (Netz) 064. FREGIEN, THEOBOLD & CHRISTINA (Weszner) ..........see next part 268. ZELLMER, C. & MARY (Dittus)

Kulm ND, Town History, 1892-1957 . . . ; may now be found at: http://pixel.cs.vt.edu/library/towns/link/kulm57.txt The KULM history contains < amongst other stuff > abt 250 plus family descriptions... I will post an index shortly..... There is a lotta of interesting data in this very large book! For example: Just found another LANDSIEDEL reference... " KULM REFORMED CHURCH The Reformed church building has an interesting history. It was the first school house from 1893 to 1899. The church was organized in June 1897 and incorporated in July 1902. Services were first held in the homes. Pastor of this congregation was Rev. Stienecker who lived in Ashley and drove to Kulm with horse and buggy. He was followed by LANDSIEDEL, Sheidt, Zepf, Wittenborg, Depping and Bodeman. The members have since disbanded and the building was purchased by the American Legion and serves as their Legion Hall. " And ROTT < Roth?> " ROTT, JOHN & EVA (Rott) [picture] John Rott was born February 17, 1900. He was the grandson of Frederick Rott, who was born in Neu Kessel, South Russia in 1867 and came to North Dakota in 1892. His grandfather homesteaded the land which was passed down to John Rott. John Rott was united in marriage to Eva, nee Rott on August 27, 1923. They farmed until 1951, when Mr. Rott turned the farm over to his son, Elliott and wife Violet, nee Dollinger, who were married in October of 1944. They have two children, Kathleen 7, and Daryle 8 months. The Rotts are all members of the Berlin Baptist Church. Mr. and Mrs. John Rott make their home in the city of Kulm. " Enjoy, ;j......

Data and information compiled, updated and provided by Martin Schock has been placed on ye Odessa Digital Library by Roger Ehrlich. Check out recent ADDITIONS at: http://pixel.cs.vt.edu/library/content.html : Here's a list of the files that were replaced: 4 Nov 2001 ovrvwmrs.txt Overview of Family Files Compiled by M.R. Schock . . . . . . 4 Nov 2001 ehni_bbs.txt EHNI born at Borodino, Bessarabia (M.R. Schock). . . . . . . 4 Nov 2001 kreis_gd.txt KREIS of Alexanderhilf and Liebental District (M.R. Schock). 4 Nov 2001 lange_bb.txt LANGE born at Borodino, Bessarabia (M.R. Schock) . . . . . . 4 Nov 2001 rnslr_gd.txt RENSCHLER of Freudental and Neu Freudental, Odessa (M.R. Schock) 4 Nov 2001 roth_gdo.txt ROTH of Alexanderhilf, Peterstal and Liebental District (M.R. Schock) 4 Nov 2001 schok_bb.txt SCHOCK born at Borodino, Bessarabia (M.R. Schock). . . . . . 4 Nov 2001 schok_gd.txt SCHOCK of Peterstal and Liebental District (M.R. Schock) . . 4 Nov 2001 schok_uw.txt SCHOCK born at Unterheinriet, Wuerttemberg, Germany (M.R. Schock) 4 Nov 2001 shfnr_gd.txt SCHAFFNER of Neuburg and Liebental District (M.R. Schock). . 4 Nov 2001 wagnr_ho.txt WAGNER at and from Hoffnungstal, Odessa (M.R. Schock). . . . 4 Nov 2001 wgner_no.txt Some WAGNER of Neuburg and Liebental District (M.R. Schock). BCC: Martin

: Rohrbach Marriage, 185x Jungmann, Wilhelm 20 May 1850 Huest, Margaretha 1882652/1 362 7 Huest, Johannes 25 Jul 1850 Fuhrmann, Margaretha 1882652/1 362 8 COMPARE: Wuest, Johannes 20 Feb 1854 Rohrbach Johannes/ Margareth Fuhrmann 1883189/2 373 11 Bap: Feb 27 Reformed Wuest, Anna Maria 03 Aug 1858 Rohrbach Wuest, Johannes, Fuhrmann, Ma 1884105/2 487 36 Bapt 10-Aug Wuest, Elisabetha 07 Jan 1856 Rohrbach Wuest, Peter, Fuhrmann, Anna 1884101/1 479 7 Bapt 10-Jan

Curt, my luck! I wondered about Glueck! I checked page 279.... sadly that was not sufficient! * I did not realize that Alt-Danzig "fed" Rohrbach and Worms **.... So we will stick with: : Rohrbach Birth Records, 185x Munsch, Jacob 12 Mar 1855 Worms p: Jacob/ Anna Klueck 1884075/1 403 17 Bap: Mar 28 Lutheran Such luck, eh! Thanx for that pointer Curt! Appreciate the help! ;j. * It shows: GLUeCK, nach Alt-Danzig; RL: 68 ** Indeed: Munsch, Maria+ 04 Mar 1856 Worms Munsch, Philipp, 1884101/1 494 36 Age 34y Married Born in Alt-Danzig ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [GERmanRUSsian] VARIATIONs for: Kneissler etc. / Klundt etc. In a message dated 11/5/01 1:04:57 PM, [email protected] writes: << KLUCK is not listed in STUMPP, but could be right > >> If you turn to page 956 RL 68, you will find Glück. Glück does not appear in the St. P files BUT Kluck does!!!! There was considerable interaction between Worms, Rohrbach and the 2 Danzig villages. Curt.

Jim, freqently the scripted "S" in older German is misread as an "L".... There are quite a few examples on the StPete Index files as well, e.g.: the children of SAUTER, Friedrich & Maria Widmaier Lauter, Karl 10 Apr 1862 Rosenfeld Lauter, Friedrich 11 Nov 1863 Rosenfeld Lauter, Johannes 00 May 1871 Rosenfeld or SAUTER, Bernhard Lauter, Maria 2 Nov 1870 Paulsthal Bernhard/Christine Ehne? Lauter, Catharina 18 Oct 1871 Paulsthal Bernhard/Christine Ehnis? The reverse <surprisingly> has happened too: e.g. LANDSIEDEL shows as: : Freudental Marriage Sandsiedel, Gottlieb 5 Feb 1876 Freudental Susanne Roth : Odessa (City) Birth Sandsiedel, Jacob 2 Dec 1861 Odessa Friedrich - Heer, Marie 1884084-2 206 103 - from Neuburg el el As to "what was at this site before" i can only speculate that citizens of the mothercolonies , went out and purchased land from [some of] the original landowner[s]... which has been the case for other new colonies i have researched... as well as for some of the more "private" chutors. But i have no details about SACHANSKE / Eigenfeld Btw. nice to see the other name for EIGENFELD in print! There are also some WIDMAYERs in Eigenfeld, around 1880s ; if any connections pop up, please let me know. Hope this helps, Jay W. Meeuwig Researching: HUMMELs; ROTHs; SAUTERs; WIDMAIERs On http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Klein" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:31 PM Subject: Eigenfeld / Sachanske In 1859 my great great grandparents received permission to leave Glueckstal (Odessa) for Guthe Sachanske (? Luchanske) - the handwritten record is hard to decipher. Sachanske is another name for Eigenfeld just north of Hoffnungstal (Odessa). Eigenfeld started in 1868 as a daughter colony of Hoffnungstal. What would have been at this site 9 years earlier in 1859 when my great great grandparents went there? Is anyone acquainted with the early history of this Eigenfeld? Thanks, Jim Klein

I am researching my maiden surname Moser. I am trying to track down my great, great grandfather Peter Moser, married to Charlotta Fuhrmann. I have been told by relatives that my grandfather Theodor was born in Rohrbach, So Russia in 1890. He was married to Clara Hoffman whose family was from Worms, So. Russia. Theodor's father was Johannes P. Moser born in 1865. My records say he was born in "Odessa". I don't know if this is literal or if it means the Odessa Colonies, i.e. also Rohrbach. Johannes P. was married to Christina Deutscher. I have heard of Ludwig Moser from Unterkirnach who was one of the founding father's of Rohrbach. There is a chance that one of Ludwig's sons, Frederick or Johannes are Peter's father. I can not find any censuses that confirm any link. I have Karl Stumpf's book, Emmigration from Germany to Russia" and have seen the 1809 and 1816 lists. I have also looked at the St. Petersburg Archives. There is a Peter Mosser born in the early 1840's in Rohrbach and a Charlotte Fuhrmann born in the early 1840's that may be my relatives but I have no way to confirm this from the data I've found. If anyone can give me any leads of where else to look, I'd very much appreciate it. Thank You, Susie Moser Corwin [email protected]

Also <with compliments > from Ethel ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethel Lock" <[email protected]> AHSGR - Genealogy File Card KANZLER, Mary Elizabeth (Marlis) b. 27 June 1889 Kolb,Russia d. 5 Dec. 1968 Cinnaminson,N.Jersey (buried Yakima,WA.) m.6 Oct. 1908 Ritzville, Wash. Luchenbach, Max William b.20 July 1869 Fredricksberg, Texas d.31 Aug.. 1952 Vancouver, Wash. (bur Yakima, Wash.) Husband's parents: Johann Adam Kanzler,Jr./Christine Eliza Koch JANTZ, Jacob B. b. 14 Feb. 1849 Karolswalde,Volhynia,Polish Russia d. 20 Oct. 1892 Gruenthal, South Russia m. 6 Feb. 1872 Gruenthal, South Russia m.Redger, Susanna b.17 Dec. 1854 Karolswalde, Poland d. 24 Jan. 1908 Husband's parents: Johann Ruediger/Anna Jantz In 1997 AHSGR Clues: Mrs. Neva Lou (Jantz) Heschberger, 114 7th Ave., Wellman, IA. 52356 looking for Karolswalde, Gruental. She sent in the Jantz card.

Can someone please help with the mother's name in the birthrecords below? Thanxxxxxxxxxxxx, ;j. < my picks are KNEIS[s]LER & KLUNDT ; KLUCK is not listed in STUMPP, but could be right > : Rohrbach Births Munsch, Jakob 6 Nov 1833 Worms Jakob Munsch/Catharina Kneuss 1792290/2 131 47 Bap: Nov 8 ===================^^^^^ Munsch, Elisabeth 21 Jan 1840 Worms Jacob Munsch Catharina Knueas 1883190/4 115 3 ===================^^^^^ Munsch, Johannes Jun 1841 Worms Jacob Munsch-Catharina Keussl 1883192/2 180 56 ===================^^^^^ : Rohrbach Death Record, 184x Munsch, Elisabeth 23 Jan 1840 Worms Jacob Munsch Catharina Kneus 1883190/4 109 2 2 dys ===================^^^^^ : Rohrbach Births Munsch, Friederika Jul 1852 Worms Jacob M. Anna Klundt 1883185/1 391 24 =============^^^^^ Munsch, Jacob 12 Mar 1855 Worms Jacob/ Anna Klueck 1884075/1 403 17 Bap: Mar 28 Lutheran ===========^^^^^ Munsch, Konrad 21 Aug 1857 Worms Munsch, Jakob, Kluck, Anna 1884103/2 632 43 Bapt 27-Aug =============^^^^^

COMPARE: : Rohrbach Marriage, 184x Munsch, Johann Jacob & Kluck, Anna Feb 1841 Rohrbach Rohrbach Birth Records, Munsch, Andreas 25 Feb 1843 Neu Danzig Jacob Munsch Anna Kluck Pastor Bonekemper Munsch, Konrad 21 Aug 1857 Worms Munsch, Jakob, Kluck, Anna 1884103/2 632 43 Bapt 27-Aug NOTE: Kluck does not show in STUMPP; which is not to say that it doesn't exist! I don't have enough on the MUNSCH bunch yet that i can say KLUNDT or KLUCK ... Can someone help, please? Thanx, ;j.

COMPARE: : Rohrbach Deaths Kneisler, Peter 2 Aug 1868 Rohrbach Jacob Kneisler 1884092/1 635 7 3 mos 18 dys Kneussler, Christian 16 Aug 1868 Waterloo Georg Kneussler 1884092/1 590 10 10 dys Knaeussler, Philipp 14 Mar 1870 Rohrbach Knaeussler, Philipp, 1884111/2 684 14 Age 1 year 3 mon 15 days Kneissler, Maria 4 Mar 1875 Rohrbach Husb Jakob Kneissler 1884064/1 736 2 34y3m1d Married ( nee Will ) born in Worms Kneissler, Philipp 19 Mar 1879 Rohrbach Philipp K. 1895629/1 801 8 1 year 6 mo. 7 days : Rohrbach Births Knaeussler, Gottlieb 27 Mar 1869 Rohrbach Jacob Knaeussler/Maria Wild 1884111/1 611 7 Bap: Mar 30 Twin Knaeussler, Heinrich 27 Mar 1869 Rohrbach Jacob Knaeussler/Maria Wild 1884111/1 611 8 Bap: Mar 30 Twin Knaeussler, Karolina 5 Sep 1863 Rohrbach Philipp Knaeussler/Elisabetha 1884099/3 575 22 Bap: Sep 15 Knaeussler, Peter 14 Apr 1868 Rohrbach Jacob Knaeussler/Maria Will 1884092/1 625 8 Bap: apr 25 Knaeussler, Philip 27 Nov 1868 Rohrbach Philip Knaeussler/Elisabeth O 1884092/1 628 38 Bap: Dec 8 Kneissler, Anna Maria 8 Apr 1862 Rohrbach Philipp Kneissler/Elisabetha 1884095/3 565 12 Bap: Jul 22 Lutheran Kneissler, Philipp Martin 30 Sep 1860 Rohrbach Jacob Kneissler 1884079/5 89 21 Kneusler, Johannes 20 Aug 1869 Waterloo Georg Kneusler/Adelhaid Rothm 1884111/1 694 18 Bap: Aug 31 Kneussler, Christiana 7 Aug 1868 Waterloo Georg Kneussler/Adelheide Rot 1884092/1 571 26 Bap: Aug 11 Kneissler, Charlotte 12 Aug 1874 Rohrbach Kneissler, Georg, Rothmann, A 1884120/1 753 27 Bapt 18-Aug Kneissler, Elisabeth 22 Aug 1874 Rohrbach Jakob Kneissler/Julianna Wies 1884070/1 782 7 Bap: Feb 15 '76 Kneissler, Heinrich 1 Sep 1879 Rohrbach Philipp K. 1895629/1 783 37 Kneissler, Jacob 14 Jun 1875 Rohrbach Philipp Kneissler/Elisabetha 1884064/1 713 16 Bap: Jun 22 Kneissler, Philipp 12 Oct 1877 Rohrbach Philipp Kneissler/Elisabeth O 1895622/1 764 34 Bap: Nov 20 Kneussler, Johannes 19 Nov 1870 Rohrbach Kneussler, Philipp, Odenbach, 1884111/2 675 25 Bapt 11-29 Wetzel, Elisabeth 1 Jun 1870 Waterloo Wetzel, Balthasar, Knaeussler 1884111/2 743 27 Bapt 16-Jun Wetzel, Elisabeth 28 Jun 1873 Waterloo Wetzel, Balthasar, Knaeussler 1884120/1 714 2 Bapt 16-July 1873 : Freudental Birth Records, 183x Kneissler, Georg Philipp 8 Jan 1838 Franzfeld Johann Georg - Reiling, Louisa Kneissler, Jacob 15 Aug 1835 Petersthal Johann Georg - Reiling, Louisa Day Laborer Kneissler, Catharina Margaretha Mar 1833 Petersthal Johann Georg - Reiling, Kneissler, Georg Philipp 17 Jan 1839 Petersthal Johann Georg - Reiling, Louisa and FINALLY: : Odessa (City) Death Records, 186x Kneissler, Johann Jacob 23 Jan 1863 Odessa 1884099-3 53 9 72y.11m.4d., Neunesk, Wurtemberg, 19 Feb 1790, W: ? - from Rohrbach < see also Karl STUMPP, p. 335 : KNEISLER, Johann; in 1813 to Rohrbach >

From: Manifest for Vaderland Sailing from Antwerp Associated Passenger Date of Arrival Port of Departure Line # Page # 95 Widmaier, Christian December 27, 1904 Antwerp - 25 0025. Widmaier, Christian M 26y S Germany, Pole Sandelfinga ------------------------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^ interesting "connection" as the WIDMAIERs in Alexanderhilf hailed from Sindelfingen... I'm not sure i understand the "Pole" aspect. ;j. ============================================ WAS: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:43:47 -0400 From: <[email protected]> Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] ERRATUM; Siedelfigen should be SINDELFINGEN : Grossliebental Death Record Widmaier, Jakob Friedrich 16 Sep 1848 Grossliebental 1882641/2 125 61 80 yrs 3 mos born Siedelfigen/Wurt COMPARE: : Grossliebental Death Record Roth, Louise 16 Jan 1847 Grossliebental Husb Jakob Roth 1882639/1 100 12 44 yrs (nee Wiedmeier ) Born Sindelfingen/Wurt etc.

I believe that "Rosine" below s/b "Regina : Freudental Birth Munsch, Konrad 17 Aug 1869 Lichtenfeld Konrad/Rosine Link 1884110/3 557 16 From Worms ~~~~~~~^^^^^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We also have: : Freudental Birth Munsch, Christian 8 Sep 1871 Lichtenfeld Conrad/Regina Link 1884125/2 619 26 From Worms : Rohrbach Births Munsch, Johann 17 Jun 1868 Worms Conrad Munsch/Regina Link 1884092/1 620 40 Bap: Jun 30 Munsch, Margaretha 14 Dec 1874 Lichtenfeld Konrad Munsch/Regina Link 1884064/1 717 4 Bap: Feb 9 '75 Munsch, Gottlieb 6 Jan 1877 Lichtenfeld Konrad Munsch/Regina Link 1895622/1 766 10 Bap: Apr 11 : Rohrbach Death Munsch, Philipp 4 Mar 1874 Lichtenfeld Munsch, Konrad/Link, Regina 1884120/1 775 2 +Age 7m 7d Born at Seradinka

Maiden name for Carolina s/b MUNSCH , not HARSCH < see marriage > : Freudental Marriage Link, Johann 8 May 1862 Neu Freudental 1884095/3 519 9 M-Caroline Harsch, PBN:0 : Freudental Births Link, Gottlieb 9 Oct 1868 Lichtenfeld Johann Caroline Maunsch 1884092/1 540 26 From Wurtemberg COMPARE: : Rohrbach Births, 186x Link, Jacob 20 Dec 1862 Worms Johann Link Jr/Karoline Munsc 1884099/3 565 7 Bap: Dec 20 Twin Link, Karl 20 Dec 1862 Worms Johann Link Jr/Karoline Munsc 1884099/3 565 6 Bap: Dec 20 Twin Link, Karoline 1 May 1864 Worms Johann Link/Karoline Munsch 1884123/4 120 29 Bap: May 28 Link, Johann 2 Aug 1867 Worms Johann Link/Karolina ? 1884091/3 652 59 Bap: Oct 8 : Freudental Birth, 187x Link, Philippine 25 May 1870 Lichtenfeld Johann/Caroline Munsch 1884111/2 670 7 From ? : Rohrbach Births, 187x Link, Heinrich 25 Mar 1875 Lichtenfeld Johann Link/Carolina Munsch 1884064/1 718 17 Bap: Jun 2 Link, Christina 21 Jun 1877 Lichtenfeld Johann Link/ Karolina Munsch 1895622/1 767 17 Bap: Jul 10 Link, Sophia 15 Mar 1879 Lichtenfeld Johann L. 1895629/1 786 8 : Freudental Births, 188x Link, Adam 19 Apr 1881 Johannesfeld Joh.- Munsch, Karoline 1897593-1 639 8 elel : Freudental Deaths, 188x Link, Karoline 7 Jul 1882 Johannesfeld Johann - Munsch, Karoline 1895610-1 749 4 +18y.2m.6d., Chutor Maloch ALSO: : Rohrbach Births, 187x Link, Christina 10 Jan 1874 Lichtenfeld Link, Christian, Munsch, Chri 1884120/1 755 2 Bapt 20-Jan Link, Elisabetha 2 Sep 1875 Lichtenfeld Christian Link/ Christina Mun 1884064/1 719 25 Bap: Sep 14 Link, Christian 14 Feb 1878 Lichtenfeld Christian L. 1895624/1 775 3 Link, Philippine 25 Jun 1879 Lichtenfeld Christian L. 1895629/1 787 16 : Freudental Births, 188x Link, Gottlieb 15 Jan 1881 Johannesfeld Christ. - Munsch, Christ. 1897593-1 639 3 Twin elel Link, Sophia 15 Jan 1881 Johannesfeld Christ. - Munsch, Christ. 1897593-1 639 3 Twin elel : Freudental Deaths, 188x Link, Elisabetha 15 Jun 1881 Johannesfeld Christian - Munsch, Christine 1897593-1 672 4 +5y9m13d,Johannesfeld Link, Christian 19 Jun 1881 Johannesfeld Christian - Munsch, Christine 1897593-1 672 5 +3y4m21d, Lichtenfeld Link, Christine 23 Jun 1881 Johannesfeld Christian - Munsch, Christine 1897593-1 672 7 +7y5m6d, Lichtenfeld Link, Philippine 28 Jun 1881 Johannesfeld Christian - Munsch, Christine 1897593-1 672 10 +2y0m4d, Lichtenfeld Christian & wife Christine(1) went to the USA in 1885 on board of the Ems arriving 16-May-1885 New York, NY (1) : Rohrbach Birth, 185x Munsch, Christina 04 Jul 1854 Worms Georg/ Elisabeth Muehlbaier 1883189/2 360 21 Bap: Jul 11 Lutheran

Could it be that Elisabeth Muehlbaier below should in fact be Elisabeth Mehl? : Rohrbach Birth Records (2)Munsch, Christina 04 Jul 1854 Worms Georg/ Elisabeth Muehlbaier 1883189/2 360 21 Bap: Jul 11 Lutheran In 1851 we see a Katharina instead of Elisabetha: (1)Munsch, Katherina Nov 1851 Worms Georg/ Katharina Mehl 1883181/1 365 144 Likewise in 1857 we see Jakob... instead of [Johann] Georg: (3)Munsch, Johann 07 Dec 1857 Worms Munsch, Jakob/ Mehl, Elisabet 1884103/2 633 57 Bapt 10-Dec COMPARE: : Rohrbach Birth Records (1)Munsch, Katherina Nov 1851 Worms Georg/ Katharina Mehl 1883181/1 365 144 Munsch, Anna Maria 07 Jan 1853 Worms Johann Georg/ Elisabeth Mehl 1883188/2 428 2 Bap: Jan 11 Born in Lachoa ?? (2)Munsch, Christina 04 Jul 1854 Worms Georg/ Elisabeth Muehlbaier 1883189/2 360 21 Bap: Jul 11 Lutheran Munsch, Georg 15 Sep 1855 Worms Johann Georg/ Elisabethe Mehl 1884075/1 405 41 Bap: Sep 18 Lutheran (3)Munsch, Johann 07 Dec 1857 Worms Munsch, Jakob/ Mehl, Elisabet 1884103/2 633 57 Bapt 10-Dec Munsch, Peter 07 Jan 1859 Worms Johann Georg 1884093/2 258 8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ DOES anyone have better information? I'd like to add to my MUNSCH files. Thanx, ;j.

: Freudental Birth, 187x Muhlbreier, Jakob 27 Apr 1874 Rosenthal Adam/Barbara Lickel 1884120/1 761 22, From Worms ============^^^^^ COMPARE: : Rohrbach Marriage, 186x Muehlbaier, Adam 23 Jun 1863 Worms Bickel, Barbara 1884099/3 577 2 Lutheran : Freudental Births, 186x Muhlbeier, Barbara 19 Dec 1867 Neu Freudental Adam/Barbara Bickel 1885092/1 517 52 On 1868 Census, From Worms

: Rohrbach Death Records, 186x Huehlbeier, Elisabeth 13 Feb 1863 Worms Michael Muehlbeier 1884099/3 580 2 5 yrs Lutheran Muehlbeier, Magdalena 23 Feb 1863 Worms Michael Meuhlbeier 1884099/3 580 4 4 yrs Lutheran : Rohrbach Birth Muehlbeier, Peter 12 Jul 1883 Worms Peter Meuhlbeier 1895615/2 873 26 COMPARE: : Rohrbach Death Records, 186x Muehlbeier, Adam 19 Jan 1862 Worms Adam Muehlbeier 1884095/3 571 5 6 1/2 mos Muehlbeier, Adam 16 Jun 1863 Worms Adam Muehlbeier 1884099/3 581 17 2 mos 8 dys Lutheran Muehlbeier, Margaretha 19 May 1863 Worms Husb Adam Muehlbeier* 1884099/3 580 11 25 yrs 11 mos - Married Lutheran Muehlbeier, Jacob 11 Mar 1867 Worms Adam Muehlbeier 1884091/3 664 14 1 yr 2 mos Muehlbeier, Elisabeth 15 Jan 1869 Worms David Muehlbeier 1884111/1 620 2 10 dys Muehlbeier, Adam 15 Nov 1868 Worms Friedrich Muehlbeier 1884092/1 634 41 4 mos 10 dys Muehlbeier, son 2 Apr 1868 Worms Jakob Muehlbeier/ 1884092/1 632 11 Stillborn Muehlbeier, Friedrich 13 Mar 1863 Worms Michael Muehlbeier 1884099/3 580 7 7 yrs Lutheran Muehlbeier, Susanna 19 Mar 1867 Worms Michael Muehlbeier 1884091/3 664 17 9 mos 2 dys *: Rohrbach Marriage, 186x Muehlbaier, Adam 23 Jun 1863 Worms Bickel, Barbara 1884099/3 577 2 Lutheran

Via the Ellis Island Immigration History Centre; Associated Passenger Date of Arrival Port of Departure Line# P #1116 Wittmayer, Joh. May 31, 1892 Bremen 1151 1151. Wittmayer, Joh. M 23y Russian On the actual manifest ( graphic) we also see Helena Wittmayer, F, age 17 < this information does not show on the text version of the manifest > I sense that these are from the "Glueckstal" tribe. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ;j. Also on p. 1049: 1099. Rieger, Ludw. M 48y Russian 1100. Rieger, Aug. F 30y Russian 1101. Rieger, Alwine F 15y Russian 1102. Rieger, Bertha F 10y Russian 1103. Hartwig, Herm M 24y Russian 1104. Hartwig, Auge F 24y Russian