Hi there, Have U been able to find the shipping info for yer G'pa? Only TWO ESCHes show in 1902... ( Ellis Island) Both were young men... One from Switzerland, and one from Luxemburg: Name of Passenger Residence Arrived Age on Arrival 1. Emil Esch Berne 1902 27 2. Balthasar Esch Bauchleiden 1902 22 Can U tell us , where in Germany Karolina <and/or children> were located? Thanx, ;j. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 4:55 PM Subject: [GERmanRUSsian] KAROLINA (ESCH) KRIEG > I am searching for any information on the descendants of Karolina Esch. She > was born about 1870 and died in 1953. Karolina was a sister of my > Grandfather. My Grandfather came to the US in 1902 from the Odessa area of > Russia. Karolina and some of her children wrote letters to my Grandfather in > the late 1940s - early 1950s. Some of these letters have now been translated > and it appears that she was part of the exodus from Russia to Germany in the > later part of WWII. Karolina was married first to Jacob Krieg and then to a > Jacob Frimut. She had the following children, all named Krieg; > Georg > Heinrich > Jacob > Karl > Annette > Johann > Katarina > Margareta > > Please contact me if you tie into this family. Some of the letters are very > moving, they even plead for my grandfather to send them shoes!!!! > > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > Information about the GermanRussian Mailing List is at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/RUS/GermanRussian.html >

I am searching for any information on the descendants of Karolina Esch. She was born about 1870 and died in 1953. Karolina was a sister of my Grandfather. My Grandfather came to the US in 1902 from the Odessa area of Russia. Karolina and some of her children wrote letters to my Grandfather in the late 1940s - early 1950s. Some of these letters have now been translated and it appears that she was part of the exodus from Russia to Germany in the later part of WWII. Karolina was married first to Jacob Krieg and then to a Jacob Frimut. She had the following children, all named Krieg; Georg Heinrich Jacob Karl Annette Johann Katarina Margareta Please contact me if you tie into this family. Some of the letters are very moving, they even plead for my grandfather to send them shoes!!!!

A large group of ND migr. to Walla Walla during the depression. Evidently there was work in Spokane.... My grandfather, Remick (Roemmich) from Streeter, ND. lived there for a while..... My ex-daughter-in-law's family who were Scotish came from Walla Walla. I think there is a group who issues family history of the area.... [email protected] In a message dated 11/17/01 5:44:50 AM, [email protected] writes: << Walla Walla county >>

I know of a huge number of GR who migr. around American Falls. In fact, some of my Schweikert (Schweigert) settled there: http://www.remmick.org/Schweikert.Genealogy Jacob Schweikert d. 1923 in Pleasant Valley, Idaho, USA. He was born in Borodino / Bess. S. Russia in 1840. He married several times. Bippus & Hager (Heger)..... ---- In a message dated 11/17/01 5:19:55 AM, [email protected] writes: << Idaho. >>

Oklahoma counties in the 1920's (from the Sallet book) from highest to lowest GR density: Washita, Blaine, Ellis, Major, Garfield, Custer, Texas, Woodward, Kiowa, Comanche, Noble, Caddo, Woods, Payne and Harper = totals 2861 GR's Idaho (same info.) Power, Minidoka, Bingham, Madison, Cassia, Twin Falls, Kootenai, Bonneville, and Benewah = 955 GR's. Regards, Curt.

Hi Listers, The following is for those who are wondering where I might be going in the future on the 1920 U.S. Federal Census extraction project that I started. I will in the immediate future be working in the State of Washington. I will be extracting Whitman County. I will also look at Asotin and maybe Garfield Counties. Whitman along with Walla Walla county and possibly Asotin and Garfield formed an area where there was significant G-R presences in Southeast Washington. I am also going to be working in Kansas especially in the Barton, Ellis, McPherson, Marion, Rush and Russell Counties. With Rush, Russell, McPherson and Marion being the first counties worked in. These counties will take a while to extract. From first glance I would say that there will be about 10,000 individuals in Rush County alone. I would imagine that Ellis county would probably equally as large. Eventually Michigan will be extracted. The first two counties will be Huron and Tuscola. However it appears that 8 other counties in Michigan along with Huron and Tuscola formed a significant population of G-R's. The problem with working in Michigan is size of the Census for these counties. Huron and Tuscola are the only two counties of the 10 that aren't multi- microfilms. The larger the census the longer it takes to go through it and the longer is takes to transcribe. Also if anyone would like to help extract any of these counties I can tell you how I do it.

Hi Listers, In doing my extraction project I have come across increasing frequencies of names of States that I hadn't thought would have a significant population of G-R's. Two of these states are Oklahoma and Idaho. I would like to know from the list which counties in these two states have a signifcant population G-R's. I would encourage all who respond to send their response directly to the list so that everyone can see where our G-R ancestors resided. I am increasingly finding us spread out in more and more areas that I hadn't known about before. So this is an excellent learning occassion for myself. Thanks you, Gene Jenkins Selah, WA.

Hi Listers, I would like to thank everyone who responded to the my question concerning in which counties in Michigan that G-R's resided. I will also be doing extractions for Wisconsin. I know from messages sent to the lists that there was a sizable population of G-R's in Wisconsin. Please send to the list the names of those counties in Wisconsin where they resided. Thanks, Gene Jenkins Selah, WA.

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GV] Adams County Colorado 1920 census now indexed From: Patrice Miller <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Thanks to Gene Jenkins, Adams County Colorado 1920 census is now indexed and available for searching at: http://www.webbitt.com/volga/index.htm Click on census indexes. This extraction contains 573 individuals in approximately 95 households. The town of Brighton is included. This is the second Adams county that has been indexed, the first was in Washington state. Patrice Miller

Joanne, further to your enquiry, i believe i have worked out the "strange"/"stray" record for the birth of Johann WALTH in 1869 and Gottfried WALTH in 1879 as follows; in the following records: Walth, Georg Koerner, Margaretha Johann <<< 28 May 1869 Glueckstal 1884110-3-469-049 should / be [s/b] : Walth, Georg PERMANN, Margaretha Johann <<< 28 May 1869 Glueckstal 1884110-3-469-049 and : Glueckstal Birth Walth, Gottfried 4 Feb 1879 Glucksthal Georg/Margaretha Paumann 1895629/1 134 117 s/b : Glueckstal Birth Walth, Gottfried 4 Feb 1879 Glucksthal Georg/Margaretha PERMANN 1895629/1 134 117 COMPARE: : Glueckstal Marriages Walth, Balthasar 20 Oct 1859 Glueckstal Kuerner, Margareth 1884093/2 212 20 Walth, Johann 20 Oct 1859 Glueckstal Kuerner, Fredericke 1884093/2 212 21 Walth, Georg 13 Nov 1856 Glueckstal Permann, Margaretha 1884101/1 437 29 : Glueckstal Births and Marriages, 1833-1900 Walth, Georg Koerner, Margaretha Johann <<< ================^^^^^^ 28 May 1869 Glueckstal 1884110-3-469-049 Walth, Balthasar Koerner, Margar. --- marriage --- 20 Oct 1859 Glueckstal 1884093-2-213-020 Walth, Balthasar Koerner, Margaretha Magdalena Christina 9 Sep 1863 Hoffnungstal 1884099-3-486-101 Walth, Johann Koerner, Friederika --- marriage --- 20 Oct 1859 Glueckstal 1884093-2-213-021 Walth, Johann Koerner, Friederika Johann <<< 19 Feb 1861 Glueckstal 1884094-2-173-016 Walth, Johann Koerner, Friedrike Gottlieb 24 Sep 1862 Glueckstal 1884095-3-460-080 Walth, Johann Koerner, Friederika Christoph 4 Oct 1864 Glueckstal 1884123-4-006-072 Walth, Johann Koerner, Friederika Magdalena 9 Aug 1868 Glueckstal 1884092-1-457-070 Walth, Johann Koerner, Friederika Georg 27 Oct 1870 Glueckstal 1884111-2-528-116 Walth, Johann Koerner, Friederike Friederike 22 Sep 1875 Glueckstal 1884064-1-588-095 Walth, Johann Koerner, Friederika Christian 5 Jun 1878 Glueckstal 1895624-1-620-063 Walth, Johann Koerner, Friederika Balthasar 23 Jan 1883 Glueckstal 1895615-2-137-024 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margaretha --- marriage --- 13 Nov 1856 Glueckstal 1884101-1-437-029 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margaretha Margaretha 30 Nov 1857 Glueckstal 1884103-2-733-099 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margaretha Jacob 25 Feb 1860 1884080-1-483-013 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margarethe Christina 29 Jul 1862 Glueckstal 1884095-3-458-054 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margaretha Catharina 16 Nov 1864 Glueckstal 1884123-4-007-084 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margaretha Jakob 28 Nov 1871 Glueckstal 1884125-2-537-126 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margaretha Magdalena 27 Jan 1875 Glueckstal 1884064-1-582-013 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margaretha Jacob 31 Dec 1876 Glueckstal 1884070-1-632-127 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margaretha Gottfried 4 Feb 1879 Glueckstal 1895629-1-134-016 Walth, Georg Perrmann, Margaretha stillborn daughter 20 Mar 1881 Glueckstal 1897592-2-125-049 : Glueckstal Birth Walth, Gottfried 4 Feb 1879 Glucksthal Georg/Margaretha Paumann 1895629/1 134 117 =============^^^

: Glueckstal Births Kessler, Catharina 5 Mar 1847 Gluckstal Jacob,Kurner/Catharina 1882639/1 266 52 Peter Kessler, Carolina Kapp, Christiana Kurner Meyer, Barbara 13 Mar 1847 Gluckstal Jacob Sr./,Barbara 1882639/1 267 61 Johannes Strobel, Catharina Strobel, Christiana Kurner : Glueckstal Deaths Kurner, Christina Barbara 16 Jul 1867 Gluecksthal 1884091/3 546 64 68 years 6 mo. 13 days geb: Frey Born in Pfullingen Wue. : Glueckstal Deaths, 1833-1885 Frey, Christina Barbara 16 Jul 1867 58y 6m 13d Pfullingen, Wu, GR 1884091-3-546-063 wife of Christoph Kurner COMPARE: : Glueckstal Marriage Records, Walth, Balthasar20Oct1859 Glueckstal Kuerner, Margareth 1884093/2 212 20 Walth, Johann 20Oct1859 Glueckstal Kuerner, Fredericke 1884093/2 212 21 : Glueckstal Birth/Death Records, Walth, Magdalena Christina 9 Sep 1863 Glucksthal Balthser /Margaretha Kuerner 1884099/3 486 101 Born in Hoffnungsthal Seger, Catharina+ 8 Apr 1867 Gluecksthal 1884091/3 544 41 70 years 7mo. 28 days geb:Kuerner Born in Weinsheim HusbandMatthaeus

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Forwarded....: Msgs need to be posted at: [email protected] Subs/Unsubs only are done via <[email protected]> or <[email protected]> ... thanx ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:54 AM Subject: family history > Looking for information on Heinrich Fehling's family he was born in > Kloestitz,Russia > he came to the United States on May 9.1905 from Hamburg,Germany > his parents name was Christ and Eva Haas Fehling. > Carol > [email protected] > >

There are 3 AHSGR chapters in Michigan - in St. Joseph (in Berrien County), Saginaw (Saginaw County), and Flint (Genesee County). You may want to contact them for more info. [email protected] wrote: > > Dear Listers, > > I am trying to determine which counties in Michigan would have a large > enough population of Germans from Russia to warrant the extraction of those > individuals and families that resided there. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Gene Jenkins > Selah, WA. > > ==== GermanRussian Mailing List ==== > You may SEARCH our Archives anytime by going to: > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=GermanRussian

In the 1940's there were quite a few families that lived in the McIntosh and Logan County, ND area moved to Ingham County, Michigan - in the Lansing area for the automotive industry. My mom's family was one of them. Her two older sisters were born in Ashley, ND and she was born in Lansing. My grandmother's Hildenbrand siblings moved to Lansing about this time. I think my mom said that the church they first started going to, Holmes Street Baptist and the service was given in German for a while. When the church became too small, another church was built, Colonial Village Baptist Church in Lansing. I can remember alot of people there that were from the ND area and spoke German. Just to give you an idea of the families that went to Colonial Village, I have a Church directory from the early 1960's - not all names are German but many are: Adler Aldrich Allen Anderson Archer Baier Baker Baldwin Barnes Bart Barton Bates Bechtel Berg Birkholz Bliss Boettcher Bokovoy Boldt Braun Brodberg Brown Carpenter Cole Cook Cooper Corey Cotton Crist Crosby Dachlter Dalman Devine Dunn Dye Eckhart Erbele Evans Ewert Fanning Floria Ford Fountain Garnaat Gaustad Geahan Goff Gould Grant Haines Harr Hayes Hettinger Hiar Hildebrandt Hildenbrand Hineline Hopkins Hopp Hower Irwin Iszler Jackson Johnson Jones Joppie Kalwa Kaye Kellogg Kenney Kitchen Knoblich Kuhn Kwast Landseidel Lang Lanningham Layman Lerner Lifford Longhurst Layman Lucks Lutz Mann Marshall Matthews McDaniel McKenzie McLeod Meerman Meidinger Mitchell Mixter Montaven Morgan Nemeth O'Dell Olger Overton Payne Pekrul Penner Penno Perry Peterman Peterson Pletz Powell Raynor Rogers Rupp Sandefer Scarlett Schilling Schlak Schmidt Seigo Sherman Simons Smedley Spray Stevens Stobert Strauss Stump Taylor Thompson Tift Tomlison Townsend Travor Tucker VanKirk VanKuiken Waldron Wall Weaver Weipert Welch Welton Wesley West White Wilson Wolcott Wood Wright Yabs Yebbs Yerke Zilz Zimmerman A few other names in the area are: George, Doerr and Bellon. Not members of the church but living in the Lansing area. Kathy

Dear Listers, I would to thank all of you who gave me suggestions on which counties had G-R's residing in them on the 1920 Census. Thanks, Gene Jenkins Selah, WA.

Last Name First Name Middle Birth Date Mother Maiden Father Last Sex Birth Place Death Place Residence Death Date SSN Age Post-ems GRUEBELE CHRISTIAN 01/08/1872 HUMMEL GRUEBELE M REST (OTHER) SAN JOAQUIN 11/02/1942 70 yrs Add GRUEBELE ROSINA 03/11/1875 HEINGER F REST (OTHER) SAN JOAQUIN 09/25/1942 67 yrs Add COMPARE <last one>: : Neu Glueckstal Birth Records Hinger Adam 17 Jun 1860 Neu Glueckstal Adam Hinger Margaretha 14 Nov 1867 Neu Glueckstal Adam Hinger Rosina 11 Mar 1875 Neu Glueckstal Adam NOTE: Chritian & Rosina were a married couple. See also: Evangelical (Ebenezer) United Brethern Cemetery, McIntosh County <via Kathy Clark> Gruebele, Christian 1872-1942 w. Rosina 1875-1942 Gruebele, Rosina (Hinger) 1875-1942 In addition the birthdate for Rosina is not 03/11/1875; but 3rd Nov 1875 < via a direct descendant >

: Glueckstal Death Henger, Jacob+9 Feb 1855 Glueckstal Col. f-Adam 1884075/1 465 10 1 yr 4 mos 12 days COMPARE: : Glueckstal Death Hinger, Jacob+ 3 Jul 1848 Glueckstal Adam-father, 1882641/2 362 102 2 yrs 7 mos 16 days- or : Glueckstal Births and Marriages, 1833-1900 Hinger, Adam Koerner, Karolina --- marriage --- 27 Jan 1853 Glueckstal 1883188-2-421-004 Hinger, Adam Koerner, Carolina *Jacob 28 Sep 1853 Bergdorf 1883188-2-411-178

In checking the Sallet book for the 1920 census, these are the counties you should look at: Berrien, Saginaw, Genesee, Bay, St. Clair, Huron, Tuscola, Arenac, Shiawassee, Lapeer, Sanitac and Iosco. These are given in the order of numbers from the most to the least. This totals 6,405 born in Russia. Regards, Curt.

Please remove my name from this. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:00 PM Subject: GermanRussian-D Digest V01 #209