A statement made in Trupbach that someone went to Virginia is not the same as arriving in Virginia. Many people left Europe to come to the colonies who died at sea. Hermann Otterbach could have died enroute to England, could have died in England or could have died at sea before arriving in the Virginia colony. He could have moved elsewhere. From, Ortisgeschichte Trupbach by Dieter Trops and Udo Bohn, published by Herausgegeen vom Heimatverein Trupbach, Siegen-Trupbach, 1989, there is a history of many of the homes in Trupbach, one of which is the Otterbach house "Welmes." On pg 211 for the history of "Welmes", it states that Hermannus Otterbach lived here in 1707, but that he went to Virginia--"ausgewandert nach Virginia" and that the next occupant of the house was Johann Jacob Schneider in 1712. Below, Dr. Holtzclaw does not explain the facts to which he refers. BC Holtzclaw's, Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau-Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750, the section on the Otterbach/Utterback Family: Pg. 482 "We have indicated that Hermann Otterbach and all his family emigrated to Virginia in 1714. This is in accordance with tradition, and fits in with the facts. Hermann Otterbach, his wife, and his two sons, however, all seem to have died early in Virginia, perhaps before the 1714 group moved to Germantown about 1719."**See the information below Melchior Brumbach left without permission. Suzanne Collins Matson