23 families left in 1717 Dr Cary, I don't suppose Johannes THOMA was in that group. I know it has been thought possible that he was on Capt Scott's ship. -- We have him at Point A and also apparently at Point B but just can't transport him between the two. <sigh>. I have been busy in Salt Lake and now at home working on the American line of his son, Hans/John whose sons went on to Franklin Co., GA. FUN. Take care all. Marilyn